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#35112 From: John Tserkezis <jt@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:42 am
Subject: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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nssearcher wrote:

> Trying to find my way around OZI as a Search and Rescue application.
> If I am no make a waypoint at a predetermined position, and lets call
> it PLS, how do I then use range rings to draw an inner circle -say
> 3.5Km away from the PLS- and a second ring outside of that -say 6KM-
> from the PLS?

   There is some good news, and some bad news.

   First the good news.
   There was a program doing the rounds called OziRings.  It would create
a ring of specified diameter around the point you specified.  Sounds
like it would fit the bill.

   Bad news is, I found it (again) and remembered why I got rid of it in
the first place.  I don't want to say it's riddled with bugs, but it
certainly has its fair share, and more importantly, it didn't work for
me at all.

   Not much point in me mentioning it in that case, other than I'm
getting the software bug again after dropping off the radar and taking a
self-imposed hiatus for a few years.
   Sounds simple enough, just the ticket to get the ball rolling again.

   Doesn't address your question for now, but for the future...

#35113 From: "Dale" <nssearcher@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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Aagh, good.  I was thinking I might be asking a question already answered,
although I could not find it.  Research on this litserve showed there was some
deficiency with the "Range Rings" previouslt mentioned, hence my hope that
something had followed since.

As mentioned, I am a Luddite, so sure hope that bug bites hard. There are a lot
of search and rescue folks who could use such an add on.

Thanks again.

--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, John Tserkezis <jt@...> wrote:
>
> nssearcher wrote:
>
> > Trying to find my way around OZI as a Search and Rescue application.
> > If I am no make a waypoint at a predetermined position, and lets call
> > it PLS, how do I then use range rings to draw an inner circle -say
> > 3.5Km away from the PLS- and a second ring outside of that -say 6KM-
> > from the PLS?
>
>   There is some good news, and some bad news.
>
>   First the good news.
>   There was a program doing the rounds called OziRings.  It would create
> a ring of specified diameter around the point you specified.  Sounds
> like it would fit the bill.
>
>   Bad news is, I found it (again) and remembered why I got rid of it in
> the first place.  I don't want to say it's riddled with bugs, but it
> certainly has its fair share, and more importantly, it didn't work for
> me at all.
>
>   Not much point in me mentioning it in that case, other than I'm
> getting the software bug again after dropping off the radar and taking a
> self-imposed hiatus for a few years.
>   Sounds simple enough, just the ticket to get the ball rolling again.
>
>   Doesn't address your question for now, but for the future...
>

#35114 From: Reg <lists.reg@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: OziCE + HTC Touch HD2
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Posted by: "philippe_feret" philippe_feret@...   philippe_feret

> I am speeking about 2 different techs : Sensitive (all the device you
mentioned are resistive) and capacitive.

"My 3-4 year old Toshiba XP Tablet PC only works with it's expensive
digitizer pen"

This is _not_ resistive.  It has an 'Active Digitizer' pen made by
Wacom.  It is pressure sensitive to 255 levels and can hover over the
screen to get a reaction.  I believe that it is inductive.  Go the
documentation somewhere!

I can hold the pen 1 cm away from the screen and the pointer moves with the pen.

It is however an old and expensive technology.

Reg.

#35115 From: Reg <lists.reg@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?
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Posted by: "Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology" jim.kelly@...
  idsoonerbesoaring

> I've noticed that many devices are now on the market with "bigger"
> displays but fewer pixels . . .

I've only quoted part of your posting Jim, but I support everything
you say.  Most of the old 'stuff' is better than the new!

> Better to identify some low cost hardware easily
> ordered from www.dealextreme.com

Interesting to see that the Super Mini Bluetooth 2.0 Adapter that I
use for my Qstarz BT-1000 is down to only $2.28.

Reg.

#35116 From: Reg <lists.reg@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: OziCE + HTC Touch HD2
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"My 3-4 year old Toshiba XP Tablet PC only works with it's expensive
digitizer pen"

Forgot to add that like a pencil the other end has an eraser that's
also active 1 cm off the screen.

Apparently the other end is sensed and known by the software!

Reg.

#35117 From: barbudor <barbudor@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: Re: OziCE + HTC Touch HD2
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Hi Phillipe (should I say Bonjour ?)

I've looked into this device with interrest.
Without yet purchasing it, I have installed MS Mobile Emulator
and tried Ozi with a ROM for a 800x480 device (WinMo 6.1.1)

To my surprise, Ozi does not seems to see the extended screen
size. It use a standard 320x240 (or 400x240 I am unsure) screen
design. [Similar to what Ozi does when you place a hires.dat file in
the Ozi directory]
I believe that it is WinMo who let Ozi believe that the resolution is
smaller and do the scale up on behalf of Ozi.

The problem I see behind this is that I fear that Ozi is unable to
take advantage of the higher resolution to show maps with high
definition.


It would be interesting to have more feedback from users
with 800x480 screens (WinMo).

~barbudor~


2009/11/21 philippe_feret <philippe_feret@...>

>
>
> Ok, I saw : windows Mobile 6.5 is explicitly supported.
>
> No matter with that. ;-)
>
> The point is about the screen technology (800x480) (not resistive + stylus
> ) but capacitive.
>
> Finger only. And also maybe less acurate ?
>
> Any experience about that ?
>
> Want to know more about this device ?
>
>
>
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/4wm-reviews-hardware/22380-o2-htc-hd2-review.ht\
ml
>
>
>


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#35118 From: "philippe_feret" <philippe_feret@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: OziCE + HTC Touch HD2 + 800 x 480 + WinMo 6.5
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Hi all,

Thanks for your messages.

800x480 not supported. I was not aware about this one :-(((

I am still demanding for any experience about the resolution and the
compatibility with capacitive screen.

Cheers.

--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, barbudor <barbudor@...> wrote:

tried Ozi with a ROM for a 800x480 device (WinMo 6.1.1)
>
> To my surprise, Ozi does not seems to see the extended screen
> size.

#35119 From: "flyingppg" <flyingppg@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:50 pm
Subject: UK 0.5mil aeronautical charts
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With the weather so bad (in the UK) it's inadvisable to go outside, let alone go
flying, if anyone is interested in some now quite out of date (2004) UK 0.5mil
aeronautical charts in JPG and OziExplorer stitched ozf3 format, they are shared
via the torrent file which can be downloaded here: http://tinyurl.com/yzy84ry.
They are very good images, and different and much better than the maps posted
previously. I think the 0.25mil charts and Ordnance Survey 25k and Landranger
maps are also being worked through.

If anyone has a current set of Memory Map 0.25mil and 0.5mil charts (the .qct
files) and would like to share them and can mail me a torrent off list, it would
be possible to do them too. If you have these maps and don't know what a torrent
is, then mail me off list anyway! :-)

Rich.

#35120 From: "nzbrentc" <brent@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: tile extraction for use in Ozi
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Hi

Recently had a look at

http://maps.auckland.govt.nz/Alggi/

Excellent aerial photos of the Auckland - New Zealand region

Anyone have a suggestion on how to extract the tiles for use in Ozi and Ozi CE ?

Thanks

Rgds
Brent
www.nzgpsmaps.com

#35121 From: "Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology" <jim.kelly@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:41 am
Subject: Re: Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?
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Could be a useful site for choosing hardware to run OziE:
    http://www.tabletpc.com.au/category/1779/ultra-mobile-pcs-umpc


They have some specials:
    
http://www.tabletpc.com.au/product/3043/36786/executive-ex-demo-motion-computing\
-j3400-slate-tablet-pc-with-3g-and-gps

And some interesting expensive? products:
    
http://www.tabletpc.com.au/product/3175/37108/xplore-ix104c4-rugged-tablet-pc
          and
     http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/index.asp


Regards,

Jim Kelly

.

----- Original Message -----
From: Reg
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?



Posted by: "Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology" jim.kelly@...
   idsoonerbesoaring

> I've noticed that many devices are now on the market with "bigger"
> displays but fewer pixels . . .

I've only quoted part of your posting Jim, but I support everything
you say. Most of the old 'stuff' is better than the new!

> Better to identify some low cost hardware easily
> ordered from www.dealextreme.com

Interesting to see that the Super Mini Bluetooth 2.0 Adapter that I
use for my Qstarz BT-1000 is down to only $2.28.

Reg.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#35122 From: kiwino1@...
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:29 am
Subject: Re: UK 0.5mil aeronautical charts
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Bad weather?

You go IFR to the bathroom now I guess (Sorry off-topic I guess)


(Note for non pilots IFR=Instrument Flying Rules)

At 06:50 p.m. 23/11/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>
>
>With the weather so bad (in the UK) it's inadvisable to go outside, let
>alone go flying, if anyone is interested in some now quite out of date
>(2004) UK 0.5mil aeronautical charts in JPG and OziExplorer stitched ozf3
>format, they are shared via the torrent file which can be downloaded here:
><http://tinyurl.com/yzy84ry.>http://tinyurl.com/yzy84ry. They are very
>good images, and different and much better than the maps posted
>previously. I think the 0.25mil charts and Ordnance Survey 25k and
>Landranger maps are also being worked through.
>
>If anyone has a current set of Memory Map 0.25mil and 0.5mil charts (the
>.qct files) and would like to share them and can mail me a torrent off
>list, it would be possible to do them too. If you have these maps and
>don't know what a torrent is, then mail me off list anyway! :-)
>
>Rich.
>
>


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#35123 From: "Dennis Pogson" <dennis_pogson@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:07 am
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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I am mystified as to why you can't make use of the proximity rings. The only
conclusion I have come to is that you need more than one range ring?

Dennis.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dale
   To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:11 PM
   Subject: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint



   Aagh, good. I was thinking I might be asking a question already answered,
although I could not find it. Research on this litserve showed there was some
deficiency with the "Range Rings" previouslt mentioned, hence my hope that
something had followed since.

   As mentioned, I am a Luddite, so sure hope that bug bites hard. There are a
lot of search and rescue folks who could use such an add on.

   Thanks again.

   --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, John Tserkezis <jt@...> wrote:
   >
   > nssearcher wrote:
   >
   > > Trying to find my way around OZI as a Search and Rescue application.
   > > If I am no make a waypoint at a predetermined position, and lets call
   > > it PLS, how do I then use range rings to draw an inner circle -say
   > > 3.5Km away from the PLS- and a second ring outside of that -say 6KM-
   > > from the PLS?
   >
   > There is some good news, and some bad news.
   >
   > First the good news.
   > There was a program doing the rounds called OziRings. It would create
   > a ring of specified diameter around the point you specified. Sounds
   > like it would fit the bill.
   >
   > Bad news is, I found it (again) and remembered why I got rid of it in
   > the first place. I don't want to say it's riddled with bugs, but it
   > certainly has its fair share, and more importantly, it didn't work for
   > me at all.
   >
   > Not much point in me mentioning it in that case, other than I'm
   > getting the software bug again after dropping off the radar and taking a
   > self-imposed hiatus for a few years.
   > Sounds simple enough, just the ticket to get the ball rolling again.
   >
   > Doesn't address your question for now, but for the future...
   >





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#35124 From: John Tserkezis <jt@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:38 am
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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Dennis Pogson wrote:

> I am mystified as to why you can't make use of the proximity
> rings. The only conclusion I have come to is that you need more
> than one range ring?

   That's just it.  He did say in his original message he wanted two
separate range rings around the one point.

#35125 From: Chris Andrews <chris.andrews8@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:07 am
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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Create several waypoints at same position, one for each ring.

John Tserkezis wrote:
>
>
> Dennis Pogson wrote:
>
> > I am mystified as to why you can't make use of the proximity
> > rings. The only conclusion I have come to is that you need more
> > than one range ring?
>
> That's just it. He did say in his original message he wanted two
> separate range rings around the one point.
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#35126 From: "Dennis Pogson" <dennis_pogson@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:32 am
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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I would use another tactic. Create your first proximity zone as the outside
ring, i.e. the greatest distance from the waypoint. As soon as you have passed
across that ring, click on the waypoint properties and change the distance to
that of your second ring. It takes about 3 seconds to do this, and as the first
ring is now superfluous, you don't need it.

Also, if distance to the waypoint is a critical factor, you can use the
navigation menu to "steer to waypoint" and this will display a
contuously-reducing readout in the navigation control window, as well as your
CTS and XTE, which is probably as good as range rings if not better.

In his original post, the OP indicated that he was fairly new to Oziexplorer, so
perhaps he has not used all of Ozi's functions, which is understandable.

Dennis.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Chris Andrews
   To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:07 AM
   Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint



   Create several waypoints at same position, one for each ring.

   John Tserkezis wrote:
   >
   >
   > Dennis Pogson wrote:
   >
   > > I am mystified as to why you can't make use of the proximity
   > > rings. The only conclusion I have come to is that you need more
   > > than one range ring?
   >
   > That's just it. He did say in his original message he wanted two
   > separate range rings around the one point.
   >
   >

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#35127 From: John Tserkezis <jt@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:53 am
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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Chris Andrews wrote:

> Create several waypoints at same position, one for each ring.

   I'm sure the rescuers will remember this next time *you're* lost and
they can't find you because they're too busy nitpicking on what waypoint
and what proximity to use.

   Their computer is a *tool*.  It's not a paperweight, or a must-have
gadget, or an entertainment device, or a personality statement.  It's
designed (at least software-wise) entirely around helping them do their
job as effectively and quickly as possible.

   Where something is technically doable, and not impossible (too much
time and too much money), then it *should* be done.  Settling with
sub-standard operation shouldn't have to be your only option.

#35128 From: "yenalom" <Maloneybob@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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I have used the Range Ring program written by a South African SAR group on and
off for several years. I believe it is the program mentioned previously by
another contributor.

It worked fine for me and allowed multiple rings.

I can't find the URL from which I downloaded it but the help file gives an
e-mail address of Robt@....

                     Bob M





--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Pogson" <dennis_pogson@...> wrote:
>
> I am mystified as to why you can't make use of the proximity rings. The only
conclusion I have come to is that you need more than one range ring?
>
> Dennis.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dale
>   To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:11 PM
>   Subject: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
>
>
>
>   Aagh, good. I was thinking I might be asking a question already answered,
although I could not find it. Research on this litserve showed there was some
deficiency with the "Range Rings" previouslt mentioned, hence my hope that
something had followed since.
>
>   As mentioned, I am a Luddite, so sure hope that bug bites hard. There are a
lot of search and rescue folks who could use such an add on.
>
>   Thanks again.
>
>   --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, John Tserkezis <jt@> wrote:
>   >
>   > nssearcher wrote:
>   >
>   > > Trying to find my way around OZI as a Search and Rescue application.
>   > > If I am no make a waypoint at a predetermined position, and lets call
>   > > it PLS, how do I then use range rings to draw an inner circle -say
>   > > 3.5Km away from the PLS- and a second ring outside of that -say 6KM-
>   > > from the PLS?
>   >
>   > There is some good news, and some bad news.
>   >
>   > First the good news.
>   > There was a program doing the rounds called OziRings. It would create
>   > a ring of specified diameter around the point you specified. Sounds
>   > like it would fit the bill.
>   >
>   > Bad news is, I found it (again) and remembered why I got rid of it in
>   > the first place. I don't want to say it's riddled with bugs, but it
>   > certainly has its fair share, and more importantly, it didn't work for
>   > me at all.
>   >
>   > Not much point in me mentioning it in that case, other than I'm
>   > getting the software bug again after dropping off the radar and taking a
>   > self-imposed hiatus for a few years.
>   > Sounds simple enough, just the ticket to get the ball rolling again.
>   >
>   > Doesn't address your question for now, but for the future...
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#35129 From: John Tserkezis <jt@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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yenalom wrote:

> I have used the Range Ring program written by a South African SAR group on and
off for several years. I believe it is the program mentioned previously by
another contributor.
> It worked fine for me and allowed multiple rings.
> I can't find the URL from which I downloaded it but the help file gives an
e-mail address of Robt@....

   I've found it, and it has apparently moved.
<http://www.sml.co.za/software.php>

   OziRings is still buggy, but it only (as far as I can tell) caters for
one ring anyway.

   PLS is probably better for the purpose, it allows for multiple rings,
coloured ranges, and possible covered area, but is a bit buggy.

#35130 From: "Roy" <d15@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:57 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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Here is the link to the site with the 'rings':
http://www.sml.co.za/software.php  Written by Rob Thomas.

Roy


   -----Original Message-----
   From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of yenalom
   Sent: 24 November 2009 02:30 PM
   To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint



   I have used the Range Ring program written by a South African SAR group on
and off for several years. I believe it is the program mentioned previously
by another contributor.

   It worked fine for me and allowed multiple rings.

   I can't find the URL from which I downloaded it but the help file gives an
e-mail address of Robt@....

   Bob M

   --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Pogson" <dennis_pogson@...>
wrote:
   >
   > I am mystified as to why you can't make use of the proximity rings. The
only conclusion I have come to is that you need more than one range ring?
   >
   > Dennis.
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: Dale
   > To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
   > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:11 PM
   > Subject: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
   >
   >
   >
   > Aagh, good. I was thinking I might be asking a question already
answered, although I could not find it. Research on this litserve showed
there was some deficiency with the "Range Rings" previouslt mentioned, hence
my hope that something had followed since.
   >
   > As mentioned, I am a Luddite, so sure hope that bug bites hard. There
are a lot of search and rescue folks who could use such an add on.
   >
   > Thanks again.
   >
   > --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, John Tserkezis <jt@> wrote:
   > >
   > > nssearcher wrote:
   > >
   > > > Trying to find my way around OZI as a Search and Rescue application.
   > > > If I am no make a waypoint at a predetermined position, and lets
call
   > > > it PLS, how do I then use range rings to draw an inner circle -say
   > > > 3.5Km away from the PLS- and a second ring outside of that -say 6KM-
   > > > from the PLS?
   > >
   > > There is some good news, and some bad news.
   > >
   > > First the good news.
   > > There was a program doing the rounds called OziRings. It would create
   > > a ring of specified diameter around the point you specified. Sounds
   > > like it would fit the bill.
   > >
   > > Bad news is, I found it (again) and remembered why I got rid of it in
   > > the first place. I don't want to say it's riddled with bugs, but it
   > > certainly has its fair share, and more importantly, it didn't work for
   > > me at all.
   > >
   > > Not much point in me mentioning it in that case, other than I'm
   > > getting the software bug again after dropping off the radar and taking
a
   > > self-imposed hiatus for a few years.
   > > Sounds simple enough, just the ticket to get the ball rolling again.
   > >
   > > Doesn't address your question for now, but for the future...
   > >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >






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#35131 From: Dale Wilson <nssearcher@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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Thanks, Roy.  This plugin was tried by several associates and simply isn't
usable; way too buggy.

As others have alluded the apploication will be in a search and rescue
environment, or, more plainly put, an emergency environment. The end user could
be one of a multitude of people, almost all of whom have little or no prowess
around working from directories.  Any pluigin must be intuitive and bug-free,
unfortunatley none such seems to exist. 

In an ideal world it would be nice to have a series of hot keys where the user
could simply scroll the mouse to a pre-determined location, Shift F1, and voila
the donut appears.

Hard to imagine that in this day and age SAR emergency service providers still
have to rely on a paper map and draftsmans' compass to draw two rings.

I will continue looking and see if I can find someone who migth be able to write
this code.

Thanks to all for your help.


  




________________________________
From: Roy <d15@...>
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 5:57:01 PM
Subject: RE: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint

 
Here is the link to the site with the 'rings':
http://www.sml. co.za/software. php Written by Rob Thomas.

Roy

-----Original Message-----
From: OziUsers-L@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogro ups.com]On
Behalf Of yenalom
Sent: 24 November 2009 02:30 PM
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint

I have used the Range Ring program written by a South African SAR group on
and off for several years. I believe it is the program mentioned previously
by another contributor.

It worked fine for me and allowed multiple rings.

I can't find the URL from which I downloaded it but the help file gives an
e-mail address of Robt@.... za.

Bob M

--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogro ups.com, "Dennis Pogson" <dennis_pogson@ ...>
wrote:
>
> I am mystified as to why you can't make use of the proximity rings. The
only conclusion I have come to is that you need more than one range ring?
>
> Dennis.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:11 PM
> Subject: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
>
>
>
> Aagh, good. I was thinking I might be asking a question already
answered, although I could not find it. Research on this litserve showed
there was some deficiency with the "Range Rings" previouslt mentioned, hence
my hope that something had followed since.
>
> As mentioned, I am a Luddite, so sure hope that bug bites hard. There
are a lot of search and rescue folks who could use such an add on.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogro ups.com, John Tserkezis <jt@> wrote:
> >
> > nssearcher wrote:
> >
> > > Trying to find my way around OZI as a Search and Rescue application.
> > > If I am no make a waypoint at a predetermined position, and lets
call
> > > it PLS, how do I then use range rings to draw an inner circle -say
> > > 3.5Km away from the PLS- and a second ring outside of that -say 6KM-
> > > from the PLS?
> >
> > There is some good news, and some bad news.
> >
> > First the good news.
> > There was a program doing the rounds called OziRings. It would create
> > a ring of specified diameter around the point you specified. Sounds
> > like it would fit the bill.
> >
> > Bad news is, I found it (again) and remembered why I got rid of it in
> > the first place. I don't want to say it's riddled with bugs, but it
> > certainly has its fair share, and more importantly, it didn't work for
> > me at all.
> >
> > Not much point in me mentioning it in that case, other than I'm
> > getting the software bug again after dropping off the radar and taking
a
> > self-imposed hiatus for a few years.
> > Sounds simple enough, just the ticket to get the ball rolling again.
> >
> > Doesn't address your question for now, but for the future...
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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#35132 From: "Ron Robichaud" <ronnyr@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:17 am
Subject: RE: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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Perhaps I am mistaken, but I believe that Global Mapper has this capability
of establishing a range ring



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#35133 From: "yenalom" <Maloneybob@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:45 am
Subject: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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The Range Ring Program will handle as many rings for a a waypoint as you desire.
Locate the ring center, generate the first ring e.g, 1000km. It will appear. Now
generate the next, say 1500km without changing the ring center. It wi;; appear.
Do as many as you wish. The color and attributes of each ring can be different.
Each ring is generated as a separate track file.

Hope this helps.

                      BobM

--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, John Tserkezis <jt@...> wrote:
>
> yenalom wrote:
>
> > I have used the Range Ring program written by a South African SAR group on
and off for several years. I believe it is the program mentioned previously by
another contributor.
> > It worked fine for me and allowed multiple rings.
> > I can't find the URL from which I downloaded it but the help file gives an
e-mail address of Robt@...
>
>   I've found it, and it has apparently moved.
> <http://www.sml.co.za/software.php>
>
>   OziRings is still buggy, but it only (as far as I can tell) caters for
> one ring anyway.
>
>   PLS is probably better for the purpose, it allows for multiple rings,
> coloured ranges, and possible covered area, but is a bit buggy.
>

#35134 From: Dave Patton <davep@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:59 am
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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On 2009/11/24 2:23 PM, Dale Wilson wrote:

> In an ideal world it would be nice to have a series of hot keys where
> the user could simply scroll the mouse to a pre-determined location,
> Shift F1, and voila the donut appears.
>
> Hard to imagine that in this day and age SAR emergency service
> providers still have to rely on a paper map and draftsmans' compass
> to draw two rings.

And just so there is no miscommunication about what you
are looking for, do you actually expect the "ring" to be
a "circle", as would be drawn on a paper map using a compass?

Depending on the map projection, a 'ring of constant radius
around a waypoint' may not appear as a circle.

--
Dave Patton
CIS Canadian Information Systems
Victoria, B.C.

Degree Confluence Project:
Canadian Coordinator
Technical Coordinator
http://www.confluence.org/

Personal website:
Maps, GPS, etc.
http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/

#35135 From: Teppo Rapo <teppo.rapo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:21 am
Subject: Internet maps xxx expired
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For a long time I tried to use Google map on Ozi but got pop-up window
that says my "license" or something like that has expired for internet
maps and I would need to get a new one from Oziexplorer.com, yes they
did not even work any more, did not get the tool bar even?!?!?! WTF!?
-teppo

#35136 From: Chris Andrews <chris.andrews8@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:05 am
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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I agree entirely with what you say John. It was simply a suggestion, for
what it was worth, if it doesn't suit the requirement then just forget it.

Chris

John Tserkezis wrote:
>
>
> Chris Andrews wrote:
>
> > Create several waypoints at same position, one for each ring.
>
> I'm sure the rescuers will remember this next time *you're* lost and
> they can't find you because they're too busy nitpicking on what waypoint
> and what proximity to use.
>
> Their computer is a *tool*. It's not a paperweight, or a must-have
> gadget, or an entertainment device, or a personality statement. It's
> designed (at least software-wise) entirely around helping them do their
> job as effectively and quickly as possible.
>
> Where something is technically doable, and not impossible (too much
> time and too much money), then it *should* be done. Settling with
> sub-standard operation shouldn't have to be your only option.
>
>


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#35137 From: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:06 am
Subject: Elevation profile along a route
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Hi Group,

As user of Oziexplorer in flight, I would need an useful feature: possibility to
draw and display an ELEVATION PROFILE along a selected ROUTE, not just a track.
Is anybody aware of such a function as an add-on to Oziexplorer?
Or can suggest a method in native Ozi how to get it?

Thanks.

Gianni Zuliani

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#35138 From: "rwcx183" <lgalvin@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Elevation profile along a route
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--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> As user of Oziexplorer in flight, I would need an useful feature: possibility
to
> draw and display an ELEVATION PROFILE along a selected ROUTE, not just a
track.
> Is anybody aware of such a function as an add-on to Oziexplorer?
> Or can suggest a method in native Ozi how to get it?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gianni Zuliani

Gianni,

Maybe I'm missing something, but couldn't you just convert the route to a track
and then if you have the add-in Ozi3D along with DEM data for the area, Ozi can
create an elevation track profile?

J.G.

#35139 From: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Elevation profile along a route
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Hi,

Actually I'm able to use Ozi3D for traks which are defined start point to end
point.
If there is a way to convert routes to tracks, that's would be a handy solution
for me.
Problem is, sorry I don't know how to convert routes to tracks ...
Thanks for your help.

Gianni


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: rwcx183
   To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:44 PM
   Subject: [OziUsers-L] Re: Elevation profile along a route





   --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@...> wrote:
   >
   > Hi Group,
   >
   > As user of Oziexplorer in flight, I would need an useful feature:
possibility to
   > draw and display an ELEVATION PROFILE along a selected ROUTE, not just a
track.
   > Is anybody aware of such a function as an add-on to Oziexplorer?
   > Or can suggest a method in native Ozi how to get it?
   >
   > Thanks.
   >
   > Gianni Zuliani

   Gianni,

   Maybe I'm missing something, but couldn't you just convert the route to a
track and then if you have the add-in Ozi3D along with DEM data for the area,
Ozi can create an elevation track profile?

   J.G.





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#35140 From: barbudor <barbudor@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:02 pm
Subject: Re: Internet maps xxx expired
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Still working for me

:)

2009/11/25 Teppo Rapo <teppo.rapo@...>

>
>
> For a long time I tried to use Google map on Ozi but got pop-up window
> that says my "license" or something like that has expired for internet
> maps and I would need to get a new one from Oziexplorer.com, yes they
> did not even work any more, did not get the tool bar even?!?!?! WTF!?
> -teppo
>
>


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#35141 From: "Pocileh" <pocileh@...>
Date: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Range Rings and Waypoint
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale" <nssearcher@...>
To: <OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: [OziUsers-L] Re: Range Rings and Waypoint


> Aagh, good.  I was thinking I might be asking a question already answered,
> although I could not find it.  Research on this litserve showed there was
> some deficiency with the "Range Rings" previouslt mentioned, hence my hope
> that something had followed since.
>
> As mentioned, I am a Luddite, so sure hope that bug bites hard. There are
> a lot of search and rescue folks who could use such an add on.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, John Tserkezis <jt@...> wrote:
>>
>> nssearcher wrote:
>>
>> > Trying to find my way around OZI as a Search and Rescue application.
>> > If I am no make a waypoint at a predetermined position, and lets call
>> > it PLS, how do I then use range rings to draw an inner circle -say
>> > 3.5Km away from the PLS- and a second ring outside of that -say 6KM-
>> > from the PLS?
>>
>>   There is some good news, and some bad news.
>>
>>   First the good news.
>>   There was a program doing the rounds called OziRings.  It would create
>> a ring of specified diameter around the point you specified.  Sounds
>> like it would fit the bill.
>>
>>   Bad news is, I found it (again) and remembered why I got rid of it in
>> the first place.  I don't want to say it's riddled with bugs, but it
>> certainly has its fair share, and more importantly, it didn't work for
>> me at all.
>>
>>   Not much point in me mentioning it in that case, other than I'm
>> getting the software bug again after dropping off the radar and taking a
>> self-imposed hiatus for a few years.
>>   Sounds simple enough, just the ticket to get the ball rolling again.
>>
>>   Doesn't address your question for now, but for the future...
>>
Dale,
if you are using Oziexplorer in 'moving map' setting then maybe the option
"range-rings" is workable.
For that, go to "MENU --> Moving Map --> Set range-rings"
This setting gives you the option to create one or more range-rings on
selfdefined distances from YOUR position.

Note: I'm using a non-english version of Ozi so my expressions for the
menu-item may be wrong as I have translated them from my language into
English.

Regards, Pocileh

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