Ok, I saw : windows Mobile 6.5 is explicitly supported.

No matter with that. ;-)

The point is about the screen technology (800x480) (not resistive + stylus ) but
capacitive.

Finger only. And also maybe less acurate ?

Any experience about that ?

Want to know more about this device ?

http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/4wm-reviews-hardware/22380-o2-htc-hd2-review.ht\
ml

Hi,

What do you think about the compatibility between OziCe and WinMo 6.5 +
capacitive screen (like iPhone) ?

Anyone try it ?

I like this big 4,3 " screen, GPS inside, fast cpu and so on.

But the screen is finger touch only (no stylet).

Thks for your response

Phil.

On 2009/11/20 2:34 PM, pietpuk182002 wrote:
> After installing Google Earth 5.1.3509.4636 (beta) the exe file is no
> longer in c:\Program Files\Google\Google Earth\ but in c:\Program
> Files\Google\Google Earth\client\
>
> The interaction between OziExplorer and GE no longer works.
>
> I've tried creating shortcuts, copying the whole client
> sub-directory, searching the ini files of OziExplorer for a reference
> to GE, but I can't get it to work.
>
> Any suggestions?

If you are using NTFS(vs FAT32), maybe an NTFS Junction Point?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point

--
Dave Patton
CIS Canadian Information Systems
Victoria, B.C.

Degree Confluence Project:
Canadian Coordinator
Technical Coordinator
http://www.confluence.org/

Personal website:
Maps, GPS, etc.
http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/

After installing Google Earth 5.1.3509.4636 (beta) the exe file is no longer in
c:\Program Files\Google\Google Earth\ but in c:\Program Files\Google\Google
Earth\client\

The interaction between OziExplorer and GE no longer works.

I've tried creating shortcuts, copying the whole client sub-directory, searching
the ini files of OziExplorer for a reference to GE, but I can't get it to work.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!!!




--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, David Read <defender110@...> wrote:
>
> Log into the website and follow the links in the "What's New" panel?
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>
> yenalom wrote:
> > I don't remember how to down load the development version. Any help is
appreciated.
> >
> >                         BobM
>

Log into the website and follow the links in the "What's New" panel?

Cheers
Dave
South Oz


yenalom wrote:
> I don't remember how to down load the development version. Any help is
appreciated.
>
>                         BobM

I don't remember how to down load the development version. Any help is
appreciated.

                         BobM

Hi all,

Thanks for the info... I'll go and play and let you all know how it goes...

I am just trying to utilise the hardware I have to get efficient use of
equipment and space.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of barbudor
Sent: Sunday, 15 November 2009 3:33 AM
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Re: Copilot Sleeve Ozi CE, iPAQ and NMEA output

Thanks J.G.

~barbudor~

2009/11/14 rwcx183 <lgalvin@...>

>
>
> --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>, barbudor
> <barbudor@...> wrote:
> >
> > J.G.
> >
> > > back to my home where a PC running Ozi shows my current location
> >
> > I can't see a way for Ozi to get NMEA from anywhere else than from a COM
> > port.
> > What are you using on the PC side to get the TCP/IP connection into Ozi
?
> > GpsGate ?
> >
> > Interresting way of doing a precise tracker.
> >
> > ~barbudor~
>
> Barbudor,
>
> On the PC side the software is called HW Virtual Serial Port. GPS2BLUE
> software has a link to download HW VSP software:
>
> http://www.hw-group.com/products/hw_vsp/index_en.html#download
>
> That software reverses the process that GPS2BLUE does. That is, it takes
> the TCP/IP stream on a specific port and turns it back into a virtual
serial
> port stream so that any program running on the PC that opens a specific
comm
> port, will receive the data stream exactly as if it was coming from a real
> hardware comm port.
>
> J.G.
>
>
>
>


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Thanks J.G.

~barbudor~

2009/11/14 rwcx183 <lgalvin@...>

>
>
> --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>, barbudor
> <barbudor@...> wrote:
> >
> > J.G.
> >
> > > back to my home where a PC running Ozi shows my current location
> >
> > I can't see a way for Ozi to get NMEA from anywhere else than from a COM
> > port.
> > What are you using on the PC side to get the TCP/IP connection into Ozi ?
> > GpsGate ?
> >
> > Interresting way of doing a precise tracker.
> >
> > ~barbudor~
>
> Barbudor,
>
> On the PC side the software is called HW Virtual Serial Port. GPS2BLUE
> software has a link to download HW VSP software:
>
> http://www.hw-group.com/products/hw_vsp/index_en.html#download
>
> That software reverses the process that GPS2BLUE does. That is, it takes
> the TCP/IP stream on a specific port and turns it back into a virtual serial
> port stream so that any program running on the PC that opens a specific comm
> port, will receive the data stream exactly as if it was coming from a real
> hardware comm port.
>
> J.G.
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, barbudor <barbudor@...> wrote:
>
> J.G.
>
> > back to my home where a PC running Ozi shows my current location
>
> I can't see a way for Ozi to get NMEA from anywhere else than from a COM
> port.
> What are you using on the PC side to get the TCP/IP connection into Ozi ?
> GpsGate ?
>
> Interresting way of doing a precise tracker.
>
> ~barbudor~

Barbudor,

On the PC side the software is called HW Virtual Serial Port.  GPS2BLUE software
has a link to download HW VSP software:

http://www.hw-group.com/products/hw_vsp/index_en.html#download

That software reverses the process that GPS2BLUE does.  That is, it takes the
TCP/IP stream on a specific port and turns it back into a virtual serial port
stream so that any program running on the PC that opens a specific comm port,
will receive the data stream exactly as if it was coming from a real hardware
comm port.

J.G.

J.G.

> back to my home where a PC running Ozi shows my current location

I can't see a way for Ozi to get NMEA from anywhere else than from a COM
port.
What are you using on the PC side to get the TCP/IP connection into Ozi ?
GpsGate ?

Interresting way of doing a precise tracker.

~barbudor~

2009/11/14 rwcx183 <lgalvin@...>

>
>
>
>
> --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "gigi94812000" <jon.p.miles@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am wondering if anyone is using their iPAQ with a Copilot sleeve to
> send NMEA data to a PC via a USB or seial port? If so how?
> >
>
> I don't know how to do it via an actual serial port, but there is a Windows
> Mobile program called GPS2BLUE that can redirect GPS traffic over Bluetooth
> or any TCP/IP connection. When your PDA is connected to a PC via cable and
> active sync is enabled, there is a TCP/IP connection between the two and
> this can easily be used to send the GPS NMEA stream to the PC. Once at the
> PC, you use a program that provides a virtual serial port, converting the
> TCP/IP data stream into what looks like an ordinary comm port to any program
> running on the PC. Here's the link to the program:
>
> http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html
>
> I've used this over Bluetooth, USB cable (active sync), WiFi 802.11G and
> also via 3G data connection. It works pretty well. I can setup a "tracker"
> scenario by using GPS2BLUE to redirect the PDA's GPS NMEA stream over 3G
> data connection, back to my home where a PC running Ozi shows my current
> location. USB, WiFi and 3G data connection all use TCP/IP, but Bluetooth
> uses it's own virtual serial port scheme via SPP (serial port profile). That
> one is a pain to setup on later versions of Windows Mobile since Microsoft
> removed the user interface for setting up a SPP.
>
> J.G.
>
>
>


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--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, "gigi94812000" <jon.p.miles@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am wondering if anyone is using their iPAQ with a Copilot sleeve to send
NMEA data to a PC via a USB or seial port? If so how?
>

I don't know how to do it via an actual serial port, but there is a Windows
Mobile program called GPS2BLUE that can redirect GPS traffic over Bluetooth or
any TCP/IP connection.  When your PDA is connected to a PC via cable and active
sync is enabled, there is a TCP/IP connection between the two and this can
easily be used to send the GPS NMEA stream to the PC.  Once at the PC, you use a
program that provides a virtual serial port, converting the TCP/IP data stream
into what looks like an ordinary comm port to any program running on the PC. 
Here's the link to the program:

http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html

I've used this over Bluetooth, USB cable (active sync), WiFi 802.11G and also
via 3G data connection.  It works pretty well.  I can setup a "tracker" scenario
by using GPS2BLUE to redirect the PDA's GPS NMEA stream over 3G data connection,
back to my home where a PC running Ozi shows  my current location.  USB, WiFi
and 3G data connection all use TCP/IP, but Bluetooth uses it's own virtual
serial port scheme via SPP (serial port profile).  That one is a pain to setup
on later versions of Windows Mobile since Microsoft removed the user interface
for setting up a SPP.

J.G.

Thanks J.G.

The "Lambert Conformal Conic" was the missing tip.
Also thanks for the tip on choosing Datum.

Have a nice week-end

Best regards

~barbudor~


2009/11/14 rwcx183 <lgalvin@...>

>
>
>
>
> --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>, barbudor
> <barbudor@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Thanks I will have a look to GDAL
> >
> >
> > J.G.
> >
> > I finally found how to get France II as per your suggestion but I believe
> it
> > is Lambert II and not IIe
> > I have 2 questions :
> > - How should I use Datum and Projection ?
> > I know my datas are Lambert IIe, but what about Datum ?
> > Is that somehing I should know about ?
> >
> > - I did not found a way to enter your parameters.
> > I did not found a list entry such as "custom" and my field are always
> > greyd.
> > "ozi Help" does not help :(
> >
> >
> > I think I understand roughly the principle behind projection and datum
> but
> > definitively
> > not very a specialist :)
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your help gentlemen.
> >
> > Have a nice week-end
> >
> > ~barbudor~
>
> Barbudor,
>
> When you import the esri shape file, at some point you will see a dialog
> box entitled Shape File Import/Export Options. There you will see a
> drop-down box labeled Position Format. If you open the drop-down, you'll see
> Lambert Conformal Conic as one of the choices. Upon choosing that, a further
> dialog will open labeled Lambert Projection CC Setup. There, you will enter
> the latitude 1 and latitude 2 as the 49.25 and 50.75 respectively, since
> these are the standard parallels. Enter the central meridian and origin
> latitude as 3.000 and 50.000 respectively. After filling those fields, close
> that dialog and enter the false easting and false northing values as 1700000
> and 50200000 respectively. As for datum, RGF93 is what is normally used for
> Lambert93, but I suspect that this is very close to WGS84 as most modern
> datums are. So, just choose WGS84 in the datum drop-down.
>
> As for the Lambert IIe projection, I would expect that the 'e' simply means
> etendu or "extended". That is, that instead of using 3 zones (I, II, III),
> they simply chose to extend zone II to encompass zones I and III. As such,
> Lambert IIe I would expect corresponds to what OziExplorer offers as "France
> II". Most likely maps using Lambert IIe projection are using NTF datum which
> is offered as NTF France in the datum drop-down box.
>
> J.G.
>
>
>


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Hi all,

I am wondering if anyone is using their iPAQ with a Copilot sleeve to send NMEA
data to a PC via a USB or seial port? If so how?

--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, barbudor <barbudor@...> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> Thanks I will have a look to GDAL
>
>
> J.G.
>
> I finally found how to get France II as per your suggestion but I believe it
> is Lambert II and not IIe
> I have 2 questions :
> - How should I use Datum and Projection ?
>      I know my datas are Lambert IIe, but what about Datum ?
>      Is that somehing I should know about ?
>
> - I did not found a way to enter your parameters.
>     I did not found a list entry such as "custom" and my field are always
> greyd.
>     "ozi Help" does not help :(
>
>
> I think I understand roughly the principle behind projection and datum but
> definitively
> not very a specialist :)
>
>
> Thanks for your help gentlemen.
>
> Have a nice week-end
>
> ~barbudor~

Barbudor,

When you import the esri shape file, at some point you will see a dialog box
entitled Shape File Import/Export Options.  There you will see a drop-down box
labeled Position Format.  If you open the drop-down, you'll see Lambert
Conformal Conic as one of the choices.  Upon choosing that, a further dialog
will open labeled Lambert Projection CC Setup.  There, you will enter the
latitude 1 and latitude 2 as the 49.25 and 50.75 respectively, since these are
the standard parallels.  Enter the central meridian and origin latitude as 3.000
and 50.000 respectively.  After filling those fields, close that dialog and
enter the false easting and false northing values as 1700000 and 50200000
respectively.  As for datum, RGF93 is what is normally used for Lambert93, but I
suspect that this is very close to WGS84 as most modern datums are.  So, just
choose WGS84 in the datum drop-down.

As for the Lambert IIe projection, I would expect that the 'e' simply means
etendu or "extended".  That is, that instead of using 3 zones (I, II, III), they
simply chose to extend zone II to encompass zones I and III.  As such, Lambert
IIe I would expect corresponds to what OziExplorer offers as "France II".  Most
likely maps using Lambert IIe projection are using NTF datum which is offered as
NTF France in the datum drop-down box.

J.G.

IMHO, if a unit marketed for *practical* vehicular outdoor use is harder to read
in sunlight,
the designers need a good hard kick in the posterior to re-position them in
front of their drawing boards!
I can just imagine a bike rider squinting at a screen as a parked vehicle looms
near!

I would think that critical "on the move" criteria .....
* large "glanceable" screen size
* easily readable in sunlight
* large, well laid out operating keys
would be basic for vehicular operations to minimise driver/rider distractions
from road conditions.

Other considerations .....
* map data presentation
* uncluttered screen
* rugged
* mounting
*
*
* screen resolution

Just my $0.02 worth.
(donning flack jacket)

Cheers
Dave
South Oz


Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology wrote:
> Great . . .
>
> Here is a link showing a compass rose (and heading) on the Zumo 660:
>
http://garmin.blogs.com/my_weblog/2009/10/ride-your-own-ride-with-the-z%C5%ABmo-\
660.html
>
> I think Elevation is there too.
>
> The Garmin Zumo 660 display
> has 45% bigger area (3.5" > 4.3" diagonally)
> and 70% more pixels (320x240 > 480x272) than the Zumo 550.
>  (although one post said it was harder to read in sunlight).
> The hp iPaq 312 GPS has 800x480 pixels . . .
> . . .  that's three times as much detail again!!
> (it certainly isn't easy to read in sunlight though).
>
> So, we have a unit designer for the rough and tumble . . .
> If it could just run OziExplorer . .
>
> Jim Kelly
<snip>

Dave,

Thanks I will have a look to GDAL


J.G.

I finally found how to get France II as per your suggestion but I believe it
is Lambert II and not IIe
I have 2 questions :
- How should I use Datum and Projection ?
      I know my datas are Lambert IIe, but what about Datum ?
      Is that somehing I should know about ?

- I did not found a way to enter your parameters.
     I did not found a list entry such as "custom" and my field are always
greyd.
     "ozi Help" does not help :(


I think I understand roughly the principle behind projection and datum but
definitively
not very a specialist :)


Thanks for your help gentlemen.

Have a nice week-end

~barbudor~



2009/11/13 rwcx183 <lgalvin@...>

>
>
>
>
> --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>, barbudor
> <barbudor@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have some data (shapes and other information) provided by the french
> > national geographic institute (IGN).
> > These includes locations of cities, shapes of administrative borders
> > (cities, counties, ...), hydrographic
> > networks ....
> >
> > It seems that I should be able to import them in Ozi as SHP or ArcInfo
> > but they are all using Lambert IIe
> > or Lambert93 projection which does not seems to be supported by Ozi.
> >
> > Is there anyone who could point me to helper ?
> > - Existing tool to convert to a projection system supported by Ozi
> > - Formula or theory I could use to write myself a quick and dirty
> converter ?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > ~barbudor~
>
> Barbudor,
>
> The parameters for the Lambert93 projection are as follows:
>
> False_Easting: 1700000.000
> False_Northing: 50200000.000
> Central_Meridian: 3.000000
> Standard_Parallel_1: 49.250000
> Standard_Parallel_2: 50.750000
> Latitude_Of_Origin: 50.000000
>
> You should be able to enter these parameters into the projection setup when
> you import the shape files into OziExplorer.
>
> A little internet searching should turn up the Lambert IIe projection
> parameters, if it's not already supported by Ozi as France II under map
> projection.
>
> J.G.
>
>
>


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--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, barbudor <barbudor@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have some data (shapes and other information) provided by the french
> national geographic institute (IGN).
> These includes locations of cities, shapes of administrative borders
> (cities, counties, ...), hydrographic
> networks ....
>
> It seems that I should be able to import them in Ozi as SHP or ArcInfo
> but they are all using Lambert IIe
> or Lambert93 projection which does not seems to be supported by Ozi.
>
> Is there anyone who could point me to helper ?
> - Existing tool to convert to a projection system supported by Ozi
> - Formula or theory I could use to write myself a quick and dirty converter ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> ~barbudor~

Barbudor,

The parameters for the Lambert93 projection are as follows:

False_Easting: 1700000.000
False_Northing: 50200000.000
Central_Meridian: 3.000000
Standard_Parallel_1: 49.250000
Standard_Parallel_2: 50.750000
Latitude_Of_Origin: 50.000000

You should be able to enter these parameters into the projection setup when you
import the shape files into OziExplorer.

A little internet searching should turn up the Lambert IIe projection
parameters, if it's not already supported by Ozi as France II under map
projection.

J.G.

On 2009/11/12 11:33 PM, barbudor wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have some data (shapes and other information) provided by the french
> national geographic institute (IGN).
> These includes locations of cities, shapes of administrative borders
> (cities, counties, ...), hydrographic
> networks ....
>
> It seems that I should be able to import them in Ozi as SHP or ArcInfo
> but they are all using Lambert IIe
> or Lambert93 projection which does not seems to be supported by Ozi.
>
> Is there anyone who could point me to helper ?
> - Existing tool to convert to a projection system supported by Ozi

http://www.gdal.org/ogr2ogr.html
See last example on the page.

--
Dave Patton
CIS Canadian Information Systems
Victoria, B.C.

Degree Confluence Project:
Canadian Coordinator
Technical Coordinator
http://www.confluence.org/

Personal website:
Maps, GPS, etc.
http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/

Hello,

This may be of interest for users of the french software
Bayo CartoExploreur3/3D (some kind of closed map explorer
application with a map offer limited to France).

I have written a quick and dirty utility to convert waypoint files between
CartoExploreur and OziExplorer. This has the advantage over using
the GPX format of preserving more details such as colors, symbol,
symbol size, font size...
Conversion is bidirectional.

More info available in French on this forum page (bottom of the page) :
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5066&whichpage=47

If non French speakers/readers are interested, just let me know and
I could post the file here with an English documentation.

Best regards

~barbudor~

Hello,

I have some data (shapes and other information) provided by the french
national geographic institute (IGN).
These includes locations of cities, shapes of administrative borders
(cities, counties, ...), hydrographic
networks ....

It seems that I should be able to import them in Ozi as SHP or ArcInfo
but they are all using Lambert IIe
or Lambert93 projection which does not seems to be supported by Ozi.

Is there anyone who could point me to helper ?
- Existing tool to convert to a projection system supported by Ozi
- Formula or theory I could use to write myself a quick and dirty converter ?

Thanks.

~barbudor~

I just cant work out why after three years no one has been to be able to find
out the correct parameters for this datum. There are 290 odd maps of Cambodia
that have been made with the datum and even more of Vietnam. Yes the Indian
Thailand Datum in OZI is close but there is nothing like knowing you have the
correct information.

I have found this in one published document.

The Indian 1960 datum is used on 1:50,000 scale topographic maps and the Indian
1975 datum is used on 1:25,000 scale topographic maps in Laos. Unfortunately,
these datums are not included as standard datums in Garmin GPS receivers.
However, Garmin does include a datum called "Indian Thailand" This datum is very
close to Indian 1960 and Indian 1975. The maximum difference is approximately
15m. This is similar to GPS errors (10m) and insignificant at 50,000 scale
(0.3mm) and at 25,000 scale (0.6mm) so the Garmin GPS receiver can be set to the
Indian Thailand datum for use with both 1:50,000 and 1:25,000 scale maps in
Laos.

Check this out
http://www.geomap.net.au/Doccuments/GPS60%20for%20Laos%20June%202008.pdf


--- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, "rwcx183" <lgalvin@...> wrote:
>
> --- In OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com, "Piet Vogelaar"
> <pietvogelaar@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > Wow, the Indian Datum. There are many variations for this one.
> > Some maps mention: Indian Map datum and that does not help very
> much. So we
> > have with Everest (India 1830):
> >
> > INDIAN 1960, Vietnam 16N
> > dX [m]  198
> > dY [m]  881
> > dZ [m]  317
> > delta A 861
> > delta F 0.28361368
> >
> > INDIAN 1960, Con Son Island
> > dX [m] 182
> > dY [m] 915
> > dZ [m] 344
> > delta A 861
> > delta F 0.28361368
> >
> > INDIAN, Bangladesh (1960?)
> > dX [m]  282
> > dY [m] 726
> > dZ [m] 254
> > delta A 861
> > delta F 0.28361368
> >
> >
> > INDIAN, India & Nepal (with Everest 1956 (India) !!)
> > X [m]   295
> > dY [m] 736
> > dZ [m] 257
> > delta A 836
> > delta F 0.28361368
> >
> > INDIAN, Pakistan (with Everest (Pakistan)
> > dX [m]  283
> > dY [m]  682
> > dZ [m]  231
> > delta A 827
> > delta F 0.28361368
> > The ellipsoid of this one is set as:
> > semi major axis [m]   6377309.613
> > semi minor axis [m]  6356109.571
> > 1/f  300.8017
> >
> > For Thailand we have the following datums:
> > INDIAN 1954, Thailand (with Everest (India 1830))
> > dX [m]  217
> > dY [m]  823
> > dZ [m]  299
> > delta A 861
> > delta F 0.28361368
> >
> > INDIAN 1975, Thailand (Everest (India 1830))
> > dX [m] 210
> > dY [m] 814
> > dZ [m] 289
> > delta A 861
> > delta F 0.28361368
> >
> > INDIAN 1975, Thailand (Everest (India 1830))
> > dX [m]  209
> > dY [m]  818
> > dZ [m]  290
> > delta A 861
> > delta F 0.28361368
> >
> > I do not think that is the end of the list.
> > It does not help me very much with a map I have:
> > army Map service series 1501 AIR Sheet NC 48-2 Edition 2 Phnom Phen
> Cambodia
> > on scale 1:250000
> > with UTM grid and degrees notation in the corners that tells me
> that the
> > projection is UTM en the mapdatum Indian 1960.
> >
> > And sheet ND 48-6 from Choam Khsan, Khmer Republic Thailand (1973)
> doesn
> > not tell the mapdatum as many others I have also do not.
> > But they all tell Transverse Mercator Grid zone 48 (fi) Everest
> Spheroid.
> >
> > Piet
>
> Piet,
>
> The important thing to note, is that for the datums that are
> geographically closest to the area of interest, there isn't all that
> much difference.  This is especially so, given the small scale 1:250K
> series, which are usually scanned at around 50 meters/pixel
> resolution.  The important thing to remember is, that many of these
> datums, were established with very few control points, sometimes as
> few as two points!  As such, there isn't going to be a particularly
> accurate transform to a modern geocentric datum such as WGS84.
>
> Be happy that the maps at least tell you that they're in UTM.  Some
> of the earlier AMS maps used an unspecified and apparently
> undiscoverable, transverse mercator projection.  For these maps at
> 1:250K scale, getting the projection and parameters right, is going
> to be much more important than what datum was used.
>
> J.G.
>

Great . . .

Here is a link showing a compass rose (and heading) on the Zumo 660:
http://garmin.blogs.com/my_weblog/2009/10/ride-your-own-ride-with-the-z%C5%ABmo-\
660.html

I think Elevation is there too.

The Garmin Zumo 660 display
has 45% bigger area (3.5" > 4.3" diagonally)
and 70% more pixels (320x240 > 480x272) than the Zumo 550.
  (although one post said it was harder to read in sunlight).
The hp iPaq 312 GPS has 800x480 pixels . . .
. . .  that's three times as much detail again!!
(it certainly isn't easy to read in sunlight though).

So, we have a unit designer for the rough and tumble . . .
If it could just run OziExplorer . .

Jim Kelly

.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer? [OT}




Don't you hate that - new products dropping good features . . .

Can the 550 be supplied with the same street mapping and oztopo mapping
data and functionality as the newer 660 . . . or do we take a step
backwards by considering the 550?

Thanks,

Jim Kelly

> Brian - GPSOZ <brian@...> wrote:
>
> The Zumo 660 will be announced at the Sydney Motor Cycle show next
> weekend.
> We'll have them on display.
>
>
>
> The 660 has lots of updates of on road features but some of the off
> road
> features have been removed. Need to confirm but it looks like, track
> archive, compass rose, UTM have been removed. So I still feel the 550
> is
> a
> better off road unit. Also need to check the mounting hardware as it
> appears
> to be "lighter"
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
> Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 9:40 AM
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer? [OT}
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Brian!
>
> Good point about vibration. Perhaps that is what killed my hp 312
> although it died whilst using it on bitumen in a car.
>
> What do you recommend for bikers with and without off-road
> requirements?
>
> The Zumo 660 seems welcome overseas.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim Kelly
>
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian - GPSOZ
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer? [OT}
>
> Waiting for stock to see about all the soft issues, ie screen
> readability in
> daylight, screen resolution, battery life. All the *real* stuff that's
> not
> in the sales brochures
>
> Definitely not waterproof or dust proof. Speaking of bikes, make sure
> they
> are also vibration tested. Have had a lot of failed non bike but
> waterproof
> units that's just "die" from internal haemorrhaging.
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
> From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> ]
> On
> Behalf Of Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
> Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 9:07 AM
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?
>
> I wonder if the (very) new Hema navigator is worth a look?
>
> 5" display - but what resolution???
>
> OziE-CE onboard + memory Map and topo maps and Route-66
>
> http://gpsoz.freeforums.org/all-new-5-inch-hema-navigator-t332.html#p1548
>
>
> Is Route 66 any good at the street nav stuff?
>
> Anyone able to check them out at the Perth 4x4 show this weekend?
> "Perth Map Centre are taking orders for these and will be offering a
> special package deal at the Perth 4WD show this weekend (13 Nov)"
>
> I hope it is dust and waterproof then it would suit a motorbike as
> well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Reg
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?
>
> Posted by: "dennispogson" dennis_pogson@...
> <mailto:dennis_pogson%40ntlworld.com>
> <mailto:dennis_pogson%40ntlworld.com>
>
> > > > There are far better applications than Ozi for car "navigation".
> > > > I
> > > > use Ozi at sea, and have on occasion had both OziPC and OziCe
> > > > running at the same time (on different devices).
> > >
> > > Are you referring to road driving on a PC, if yes, what are they?
>
> > My post 34999 explains that I use a Garmin iQue M5 PDA for what
> > little
> > road navigation I do.
>
> At one time I did consider that product, but it's miniature screen was
> a problem. I have a FS-720 PDA and have used it with OS 1:50,000 maps
> and an eMap, but not a 'road navigating' device. The 720 was a waste
> of money.
>
> > However, as I live in the UK, with currently 33-million cars on the
> > roads in a country little bigger than the state of Oregon, using any
> > kind of GPS mapping device is a life-threatening experience, and may
> > soon become illegal here, as is the use of a handheld mobile phone
> > (in
> > a car).
>
> My Garmin 2610 is a very safe to use navigating GPSr and could not
> understand why folk were suggesting using GPSrs in cars was unsafe.
> Just I bought a Nuvi 765T for the wife - now I understand why using
> that is unsafe. I've used the 2610 solo in UK (where I live with my
> LHD motor) and much of Germany and could not cope without it.
>
> > The thought of using a PC or laptop to navigate our crowded roads is
> > sim,ply laughable, although I accept there are other parts of the
> > world where this might be possible!
>
> > What do you use?
>
> Back on topic - just, OziEx on a tablet PC (I have a Toshiba) is
> excellent with a passenger. My wife and I both drive our Land Rover
> Defender motorhome, both on road and off-road. With maps for most of
> Europe at 1:50,000 or 1:25,000 (Spain is the notable exception).
>
> But the Toshiba is not very rugged. My 'stand-by' laptop is an old
> second-hand Toughbook CF-71. So I'm now looking into buying a new
> Toughbook CF-19 and mounting it on the dashboard. I use MapPoint 2004
> (with 2009 maps) for vector mapping, but you can't beat OzIEx for
> enjoying a location anywhere.
>
> Eventually the 2610 will fail and I need a replacement. As all new
> GPSrs are eye-candy with missing functionality, then a good Windows
> navigating program appears to be a possible solution to get from A to
> B and OziEx when you get there.
>
> But we're getting a bit OT.
>
> Reg.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Best regards,

Jim Kelly
KELLWOOD TECHNOLOGY
jim.kelly@...
Ph 04122 30088

.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

This must have been asked before, but a search revealed nothing.

Running Windows 7, Ozi v3.95.5f, UBD City Streets 2008 (v5).

When trying to look up maps, I get a "Path to UBD maps could not be
determined".

   I've done this extensively under XP, and it worked fine there.  As far
as I can tell, the paths are the same here, so it should work.  There's
probably some tags in the registry indicating where the UBD installation
is, but that wouldn't have changed, so I'm not sure what's going on.

   Any ideas?

Don't you hate that - new products dropping good features . . .

Can the 550 be supplied with the same street mapping and oztopo mapping data and
functionality as the newer 660 . . . or do we take a step backwards by
considering the 550?

Thanks,

Jim Kelly






> Brian - GPSOZ <brian@...> wrote:
>
> The Zumo 660 will be announced at the Sydney Motor Cycle show next
> weekend.
> We'll have them on display.
>
>
>
> The 660 has lots of updates of on road features but some of the off road
> features have been removed. Need to confirm but it looks like, track
> archive, compass rose, UTM have been removed. So I still feel the 550 is
> a
> better off road unit. Also need to check the mounting hardware as it
> appears
> to be "lighter"
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
> Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 9:40 AM
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer? [OT}
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Brian!
>
> Good point about vibration. Perhaps that is what killed my hp 312
> although it died whilst using it on bitumen in a car.
>
> What do you recommend for bikers with and without off-road requirements?
>
> The Zumo 660 seems welcome overseas.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim Kelly
>
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian - GPSOZ
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer? [OT}
>
> Waiting for stock to see about all the soft issues, ie screen
> readability in
> daylight, screen resolution, battery life. All the *real* stuff that's
> not
> in the sales brochures
>
> Definitely not waterproof or dust proof. Speaking of bikes, make sure
> they
> are also vibration tested. Have had a lot of failed non bike but
> waterproof
> units that's just "die" from internal haemorrhaging.
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
> From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> ]
> On
> Behalf Of Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
> Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 9:07 AM
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?
>
> I wonder if the (very) new Hema navigator is worth a look?
>
> 5" display - but what resolution???
>
> OziE-CE onboard + memory Map and topo maps and Route-66
>
> http://gpsoz.freeforums.org/all-new-5-inch-hema-navigator-t332.html#p1548
>
>
> Is Route 66 any good at the street nav stuff?
>
> Anyone able to check them out at the Perth 4x4 show this weekend?
> "Perth Map Centre are taking orders for these and will be offering a
> special package deal at the Perth 4WD show this weekend (13 Nov)"
>
> I hope it is dust and waterproof then it would suit a motorbike as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Reg
> To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?
>
> Posted by: "dennispogson" dennis_pogson@...
> <mailto:dennis_pogson%40ntlworld.com>
> <mailto:dennis_pogson%40ntlworld.com>
>
> > > > There are far better applications than Ozi for car "navigation". I
> > > > use Ozi at sea, and have on occasion had both OziPC and OziCe
> > > > running at the same time (on different devices).
> > >
> > > Are you referring to road driving on a PC, if yes, what are they?
>
> > My post 34999 explains that I use a Garmin iQue M5 PDA for what little
> > road navigation I do.
>
> At one time I did consider that product, but it's miniature screen was
> a problem. I have a FS-720 PDA and have used it with OS 1:50,000 maps
> and an eMap, but not a 'road navigating' device. The 720 was a waste
> of money.
>
> > However, as I live in the UK, with currently 33-million cars on the
> > roads in a country little bigger than the state of Oregon, using any
> > kind of GPS mapping device is a life-threatening experience, and may
> > soon become illegal here, as is the use of a handheld mobile phone (in
> > a car).
>
> My Garmin 2610 is a very safe to use navigating GPSr and could not
> understand why folk were suggesting using GPSrs in cars was unsafe.
> Just I bought a Nuvi 765T for the wife - now I understand why using
> that is unsafe. I've used the 2610 solo in UK (where I live with my
> LHD motor) and much of Germany and could not cope without it.
>
> > The thought of using a PC or laptop to navigate our crowded roads is
> > sim,ply laughable, although I accept there are other parts of the
> > world where this might be possible!
>
> > What do you use?
>
> Back on topic - just, OziEx on a tablet PC (I have a Toshiba) is
> excellent with a passenger. My wife and I both drive our Land Rover
> Defender motorhome, both on road and off-road. With maps for most of
> Europe at 1:50,000 or 1:25,000 (Spain is the notable exception).
>
> But the Toshiba is not very rugged. My 'stand-by' laptop is an old
> second-hand Toughbook CF-71. So I'm now looking into buying a new
> Toughbook CF-19 and mounting it on the dashboard. I use MapPoint 2004
> (with 2009 maps) for vector mapping, but you can't beat OzIEx for
> enjoying a location anywhere.
>
> Eventually the 2610 will fail and I need a replacement. As all new
> GPSrs are eye-candy with missing functionality, then a good Windows
> navigating program appears to be a possible solution to get from A to
> B and OziEx when you get there.
>
> But we're getting a bit OT.
>
> Reg.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Best regards,

Jim Kelly
KELLWOOD TECHNOLOGY
jim.kelly@...
Ph 04122 30088

.

The Zumo 660 will be announced at the Sydney Motor Cycle show next weekend.
We'll have them on display.



The 660 has lots of updates of on road features but some of the off road
features have been removed. Need to confirm but it looks like, track
archive, compass rose, UTM have been removed. So I still feel the 550 is a
better off road unit. Also need to check the mounting hardware as it appears
to be "lighter"



Regards

Brian



From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 9:40 AM
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer? [OT}





Thanks Brian!

Good point about vibration. Perhaps that is what killed my hp 312
although it died whilst using it on bitumen in a car.

What do you recommend for bikers with and without off-road requirements?
The Zumo 660 seems welcome overseas.

Cheers,

Jim Kelly

.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian - GPSOZ
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer? [OT}

Waiting for stock to see about all the soft issues, ie screen
readability in
daylight, screen resolution, battery life. All the *real* stuff that's
not
in the sales brochures

Definitely not waterproof or dust proof. Speaking of bikes, make sure
they
are also vibration tested. Have had a lot of failed non bike but
waterproof
units that's just "die" from internal haemorrhaging.

Regards

Brian

From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
Behalf Of Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 9:07 AM
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?

I wonder if the (very) new Hema navigator is worth a look?

5" display - but what resolution???

OziE-CE onboard + memory Map and topo maps and Route-66

http://gpsoz.freeforums.org/all-new-5-inch-hema-navigator-t332.html#p1548

Is Route 66 any good at the street nav stuff?

Anyone able to check them out at the Perth 4x4 show this weekend?
"Perth Map Centre are taking orders for these and will be offering a
special package deal at the Perth 4WD show this weekend (13 Nov)"

I hope it is dust and waterproof then it would suit a motorbike as well.

Cheers,

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Reg
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?

Posted by: "dennispogson" dennis_pogson@...
<mailto:dennis_pogson%40ntlworld.com>
<mailto:dennis_pogson%40ntlworld.com>

> > > There are far better applications than Ozi for car "navigation". I
> > > use Ozi at sea, and have on occasion had both OziPC and OziCe
> > > running at the same time (on different devices).
> >
> > Are you referring to road driving on a PC, if yes, what are they?

> My post 34999 explains that I use a Garmin iQue M5 PDA for what little
> road navigation I do.

At one time I did consider that product, but it's miniature screen was
a problem. I have a FS-720 PDA and have used it with OS 1:50,000 maps
and an eMap, but not a 'road navigating' device. The 720 was a waste
of money.

> However, as I live in the UK, with currently 33-million cars on the
> roads in a country little bigger than the state of Oregon, using any
> kind of GPS mapping device is a life-threatening experience, and may
> soon become illegal here, as is the use of a handheld mobile phone (in
> a car).

My Garmin 2610 is a very safe to use navigating GPSr and could not
understand why folk were suggesting using GPSrs in cars was unsafe.
Just I bought a Nuvi 765T for the wife - now I understand why using
that is unsafe. I've used the 2610 solo in UK (where I live with my
LHD motor) and much of Germany and could not cope without it.

> The thought of using a PC or laptop to navigate our crowded roads is
> sim,ply laughable, although I accept there are other parts of the
> world where this might be possible!

> What do you use?

Back on topic - just, OziEx on a tablet PC (I have a Toshiba) is
excellent with a passenger. My wife and I both drive our Land Rover
Defender motorhome, both on road and off-road. With maps for most of
Europe at 1:50,000 or 1:25,000 (Spain is the notable exception).

But the Toshiba is not very rugged. My 'stand-by' laptop is an old
second-hand Toughbook CF-71. So I'm now looking into buying a new
Toughbook CF-19 and mounting it on the dashboard. I use MapPoint 2004
(with 2009 maps) for vector mapping, but you can't beat OzIEx for
enjoying a location anywhere.

Eventually the 2610 will fail and I need a replacement. As all new
GPSrs are eye-candy with missing functionality, then a good Windows
navigating program appears to be a possible solution to get from A to
B and OziEx when you get there.

But we're getting a bit OT.

Reg.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks Brian!

Good point about vibration. Perhaps that is what killed my hp 312
although it died whilst using it on bitumen in a car.

What do you recommend for bikers with and without off-road requirements?
The Zumo 660 seems welcome overseas.

Cheers,

Jim Kelly

.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian - GPSOZ
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer? [OT}



Waiting for stock to see about all the soft issues, ie screen
readability in
daylight, screen resolution, battery life. All the *real* stuff that's
not
in the sales brochures

Definitely not waterproof or dust proof. Speaking of bikes, make sure
they
are also vibration tested. Have had a lot of failed non bike but
waterproof
units that's just "die" from internal haemorrhaging.

Regards

Brian

From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 9:07 AM
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?

I wonder if the (very) new Hema navigator is worth a look?

5" display - but what resolution???

OziE-CE onboard + memory Map and topo maps and Route-66

http://gpsoz.freeforums.org/all-new-5-inch-hema-navigator-t332.html#p1548

Is Route 66 any good at the street nav stuff?

Anyone able to check them out at the Perth 4x4 show this weekend?
"Perth Map Centre are taking orders for these and will be offering a
special package deal at the Perth 4WD show this weekend (13 Nov)"

I hope it is dust and waterproof then it would suit a motorbike as well.

Cheers,

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Reg
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?

Posted by: "dennispogson" dennis_pogson@...
<mailto:dennis_pogson%40ntlworld.com>

> > > There are far better applications than Ozi for car "navigation". I
> > > use Ozi at sea, and have on occasion had both OziPC and OziCe
> > > running at the same time (on different devices).
> >
> > Are you referring to road driving on a PC, if yes, what are they?

> My post 34999 explains that I use a Garmin iQue M5 PDA for what little
> road navigation I do.

At one time I did consider that product, but it's miniature screen was
a problem. I have a FS-720 PDA and have used it with OS 1:50,000 maps
and an eMap, but not a 'road navigating' device. The 720 was a waste
of money.

> However, as I live in the UK, with currently 33-million cars on the
> roads in a country little bigger than the state of Oregon, using any
> kind of GPS mapping device is a life-threatening experience, and may
> soon become illegal here, as is the use of a handheld mobile phone (in
> a car).

My Garmin 2610 is a very safe to use navigating GPSr and could not
understand why folk were suggesting using GPSrs in cars was unsafe.
Just I bought a Nuvi 765T for the wife - now I understand why using
that is unsafe. I've used the 2610 solo in UK (where I live with my
LHD motor) and much of Germany and could not cope without it.

> The thought of using a PC or laptop to navigate our crowded roads is
> sim,ply laughable, although I accept there are other parts of the
> world where this might be possible!

> What do you use?

Back on topic - just, OziEx on a tablet PC (I have a Toshiba) is
excellent with a passenger. My wife and I both drive our Land Rover
Defender motorhome, both on road and off-road. With maps for most of
Europe at 1:50,000 or 1:25,000 (Spain is the notable exception).

But the Toshiba is not very rugged. My 'stand-by' laptop is an old
second-hand Toughbook CF-71. So I'm now looking into buying a new
Toughbook CF-19 and mounting it on the dashboard. I use MapPoint 2004
(with 2009 maps) for vector mapping, but you can't beat OzIEx for
enjoying a location anywhere.

Eventually the 2610 will fail and I need a replacement. As all new
GPSrs are eye-candy with missing functionality, then a good Windows
navigating program appears to be a possible solution to get from A to
B and OziEx when you get there.

But we're getting a bit OT.

Reg.

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Waiting for stock to see about all the soft issues, ie screen readability in
daylight, screen resolution, battery life. All the *real* stuff that's not
in the sales brochures


Definitely not waterproof or dust proof. Speaking of bikes, make sure they
are also vibration tested. Have had a lot of failed non bike but waterproof
units that's just "die" from internal haemorrhaging.



Regards

Brian

From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Kelly - Kellwood Technology
Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 9:07 AM
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?





I wonder if the (very) new Hema navigator is worth a look?

5" display - but what resolution???

OziE-CE onboard + memory Map and topo maps and Route-66

http://gpsoz.freeforums.org/all-new-5-inch-hema-navigator-t332.html#p1548

Is Route 66 any good at the street nav stuff?

Anyone able to check them out at the Perth 4x4 show this weekend?
"Perth Map Centre are taking orders for these and will be offering a
special package deal at the Perth 4WD show this weekend (13 Nov)"

I hope it is dust and waterproof then it would suit a motorbike as well.

Cheers,

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: Reg
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:OziUsers-L%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?

Posted by: "dennispogson" dennis_pogson@...
<mailto:dennis_pogson%40ntlworld.com>

> > > There are far better applications than Ozi for car "navigation". I
> > > use Ozi at sea, and have on occasion had both OziPC and OziCe
> > > running at the same time (on different devices).
> >
> > Are you referring to road driving on a PC, if yes, what are they?

> My post 34999 explains that I use a Garmin iQue M5 PDA for what little
> road navigation I do.

At one time I did consider that product, but it's miniature screen was
a problem. I have a FS-720 PDA and have used it with OS 1:50,000 maps
and an eMap, but not a 'road navigating' device. The 720 was a waste
of money.

> However, as I live in the UK, with currently 33-million cars on the
> roads in a country little bigger than the state of Oregon, using any
> kind of GPS mapping device is a life-threatening experience, and may
> soon become illegal here, as is the use of a handheld mobile phone (in
> a car).

My Garmin 2610 is a very safe to use navigating GPSr and could not
understand why folk were suggesting using GPSrs in cars was unsafe.
Just I bought a Nuvi 765T for the wife - now I understand why using
that is unsafe. I've used the 2610 solo in UK (where I live with my
LHD motor) and much of Germany and could not cope without it.

> The thought of using a PC or laptop to navigate our crowded roads is
> sim,ply laughable, although I accept there are other parts of the
> world where this might be possible!

> What do you use?

Back on topic - just, OziEx on a tablet PC (I have a Toshiba) is
excellent with a passenger. My wife and I both drive our Land Rover
Defender motorhome, both on road and off-road. With maps for most of
Europe at 1:50,000 or 1:25,000 (Spain is the notable exception).

But the Toshiba is not very rugged. My 'stand-by' laptop is an old
second-hand Toughbook CF-71. So I'm now looking into buying a new
Toughbook CF-19 and mounting it on the dashboard. I use MapPoint 2004
(with 2009 maps) for vector mapping, but you can't beat OzIEx for
enjoying a location anywhere.

Eventually the 2610 will fail and I need a replacement. As all new
GPSrs are eye-candy with missing functionality, then a good Windows
navigating program appears to be a possible solution to get from A to
B and OziEx when you get there.

But we're getting a bit OT.

Reg.

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I wonder if the (very) new Hema navigator is worth a look?

5" display - but what resolution???

OziE-CE onboard + memory Map and topo maps and Route-66

http://gpsoz.freeforums.org/all-new-5-inch-hema-navigator-t332.html#p1548

Is Route 66 any good at the street nav stuff?

Anyone able to check them out at the Perth 4x4 show this weekend?
"Perth Map Centre are taking orders for these and will be offering a
special package deal at the Perth 4WD show this weekend (13 Nov)"

I hope it is dust and waterproof then it would suit a motorbike as well.

Cheers,

Jim


----- Original Message -----
From: Reg
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Who makes good devices for OziExplorer?



Posted by: "dennispogson" dennis_pogson@...

> > > There are far better applications than Ozi for car "navigation". I
> > > use Ozi at sea, and have on occasion had both OziPC and OziCe
> > > running at the same time (on different devices).
> >
> > Are you referring to road driving on a PC, if yes, what are they?

> My post 34999 explains that I use a Garmin iQue M5 PDA for what little
> road navigation I do.

At one time I did consider that product, but it's miniature screen was
a problem. I have a FS-720 PDA and have used it with OS 1:50,000 maps
and an eMap, but not a 'road navigating' device. The 720 was a waste
of money.

> However, as I live in the UK, with currently 33-million cars on the
> roads in a country little bigger than the state of Oregon, using any
> kind of GPS mapping device is a life-threatening experience, and may
> soon become illegal here, as is the use of a handheld mobile phone (in
> a car).

My Garmin 2610 is a very safe to use navigating GPSr and could not
understand why folk were suggesting using GPSrs in cars was unsafe.
Just I bought a Nuvi 765T for the wife - now I understand why using
that is unsafe. I've used the 2610 solo in UK (where I live with my
LHD motor) and much of Germany and could not cope without it.

> The thought of using a PC or laptop to navigate our crowded roads is
> sim,ply laughable, although I accept there are other parts of the
> world where this might be possible!

> What do you use?

Back on topic - just, OziEx on a tablet PC (I have a Toshiba) is
excellent with a passenger. My wife and I both drive our Land Rover
Defender motorhome, both on road and off-road. With maps for most of
Europe at 1:50,000 or 1:25,000 (Spain is the notable exception).

But the Toshiba is not very rugged. My 'stand-by' laptop is an old
second-hand Toughbook CF-71. So I'm now looking into buying a new
Toughbook CF-19 and mounting it on the dashboard. I use MapPoint 2004
(with 2009 maps) for vector mapping, but you can't beat OzIEx for
enjoying a location anywhere.

Eventually the 2610 will fail and I need a replacement. As all new
GPSrs are eye-candy with missing functionality, then a good Windows
navigating program appears to be a possible solution to get from A to
B and OziEx when you get there.

But we're getting a bit OT.

Reg.





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Hi dave,



Yep aware of the hardware option, CAMTRAK
http://www.radio-active.net.au/web/ozi/camtrak.html



Looking for something in software to utilise existing hardware.



Regards

Brian



From: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Outback Australia
Sent: Monday, 9 November 2009 8:56 PM
To: OziUsers-L@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [OziUsers-L] Ozi Track logs and digital video cameras





There is a guy in Brisbane that had a little box that recorded the GPS data
on one of the voice tracks. He then had a another box that that decoded the
digital signal into NMEA. You could then view in OziExplorer the moving
track file and and the video. I cannot think of his name or his website,
but the gear was not expensive. I did trial the gear and had no issues with
it and overall was simple and worked. He used to have a black and yellow
logo and website was called some atomic type name with a logo that looked
like a nuclei. I did find URL and he used to use I am pretty sure the
TinyTrak 3 http://www.byonics.com/ to encode the signal to the sound track
on the video.
Also trialled a British and French set-up, but they both needed expensive
properietory software and the final result was not as good as the gear from
the guy in Brisbane.

Regards,
David.





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