Andrew,

If you can, please create a Doc FREQ for documenting the
Data Converter. I'll be thinking about where to put it.

Eric

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> Eric pointed you in the right direction.
>
> Though you need the command line to tell it what to do. (Run the Command
> in Windows, I don't know about the other operating systems though). I'll
> make it a priority to see if I can't track down where the documentation
> is hiding, and see if Eric can place it in the docs in a prime location.
>
> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>
>
>
> allencohn wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Thank you for the help. Yes, documentation would help me a lot since I'm not
adept with Java, etc.
> >
> > I don't even know what you mean by "invoke it via command line."
> >
> > I tried double clicking on BatchConvert.jar and something happened, but I
don't think I used it correctly.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Allen
> >
> > --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@> wrote:
> >
> >> There is a data converter built in to PCGen 5.16.0, you invoke it via
> >> command line. I've only played with it a little. I'm trying to recall
> >> where the directions to work it are kept. Eddy and Tom would know, I'll
> >> flag them and see if we can't get you going. :)
> >>
> >> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> >> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> >> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> >> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

No problem,

is this what you had in mind?
2787382 Add PCGen 5.16.0 Converter Instructions
<https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2787382&group_id=25576&atid=74\
8235>

Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



Eric C. Smith wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> If you can, please create a Doc FREQ for documenting the
> Data Converter. I'll be thinking about where to put it.
>
> Eric
>
> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...>
wrote:
>
>> Eric pointed you in the right direction.
>>
>> Though you need the command line to tell it what to do. (Run the Command
>> in Windows, I don't know about the other operating systems though). I'll
>> make it a priority to see if I can't track down where the documentation
>> is hiding, and see if Eric can place it in the docs in a prime location.
>>
>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
>> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
>> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>>
>>
>>
>> allencohn wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the help. Yes, documentation would help me a lot since I'm not
adept with Java, etc.
>>>
>>> I don't even know what you mean by "invoke it via command line."
>>>
>>> I tried double clicking on BatchConvert.jar and something happened, but I
don't think I used it correctly.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Allen
>>>
>>> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> There is a data converter built in to PCGen 5.16.0, you invoke it via
>>>> command line. I've only played with it a little. I'm trying to recall
>>>> where the directions to work it are kept. Eddy and Tom would know, I'll
>>>> flag them and see if we can't get you going. :)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
>>>> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
>>>> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
>>>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thats exactly what I had in mind!

Thanks!

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> No problem,
>
> is this what you had in mind?
> 2787382 Add PCGen 5.16.0 Converter Instructions
>
<https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2787382&group_id=25576&atid=74\
8235>
>
> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>
>
>
> Eric C. Smith wrote:
> > Andrew,
> >
> > If you can, please create a Doc FREQ for documenting the
> > Data Converter. I'll be thinking about where to put it.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@> wrote:
> >
> >> Eric pointed you in the right direction.
> >>
> >> Though you need the command line to tell it what to do. (Run the Command
> >> in Windows, I don't know about the other operating systems though). I'll
> >> make it a priority to see if I can't track down where the documentation
> >> is hiding, and see if Eric can place it in the docs in a prime location.
> >>
> >> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> >> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> >> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> >> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> allencohn wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for the help. Yes, documentation would help me a lot since I'm
not adept with Java, etc.
> >>>
> >>> I don't even know what you mean by "invoke it via command line."
> >>>
> >>> I tried double clicking on BatchConvert.jar and something happened, but I
don't think I used it correctly.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>> Allen
> >>>
> >>> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> There is a data converter built in to PCGen 5.16.0, you invoke it via
> >>>> command line. I've only played with it a little. I'm trying to recall
> >>>> where the directions to work it are kept. Eddy and Tom would know, I'll
> >>>> flag them and see if we can't get you going. :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> >>>> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> >>>> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> >>>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I don't think I'm making my key question clear. Do I

A) copy all my custom files (both the hand-coded ones and the ones generated by
Tools|List Editor) from the 5.14.1 director to the corresponding location in the
5.16.0 directory and then run the converter on the files in place

B) Do not copy over any files but instead run the converter which will, in the
process of running, copy over the files from 5.14.1 to 5.16.0

Thanks,
Allen

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> Ah, gotcha...
>
> Follow the on screen prompts fully. You choose your data sets to convert
> along with the gamemode, and then choose where to place the converted
> sets, then it does the conversion, and displays a log for you see any
> errors or issues.
>
> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>
>
>
> allencohn wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > Yup, I have Java installed.
> >
> > My questions are that the on-screen prompts don't give quite enough
direction. See my earlier message for the areas of confusion, such as should I
manually copy my files from 5.14.1 to 5.16.0 and then run the program, or use
the program to copy the files?
> >
> > Allen
> >
> > --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@> wrote:
> >
> >> Never mind about the command line. That was when I had to troubleshoot it.
> >>
> >> Double clicking on the Batch-Convert.jar should pop up a window. After
> >> that it should be a matter of following the on screen prompts...
> >>
> >> You need Java installed for this to work. If click on the Jar file
> >> doesn't do anything, then you need to make a .BAT file... in that case
> >> use this:
> >> java -jar batch-convert.jar
> >>
> >> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> >> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> >> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> >> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yes, do one of those things :-).

Actually, I would suggest that you copy the originals to some new
location, then process them to some other new location, finally,
copy the converted files into 5.16. That should give you less chance
of accidentally over-writing something.

2009/5/5 allencohn <allen@...>:
> I don't think I'm making my key question clear. Do I
>
> A) copy all my custom files (both the hand-coded ones and the ones generated
by Tools|List Editor) from the 5.14.1 director to the corresponding location in
the 5.16.0 directory and then run the converter on the files in place
>
> B) Do not copy over any files but instead run the converter which will, in the
process of running, copy over the files from 5.14.1 to 5.16.0
>
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...>
wrote:
>>
>> Ah, gotcha...
>>
>> Follow the on screen prompts fully. You choose your data sets to convert
>> along with the gamemode, and then choose where to place the converted
>> sets, then it does the conversion, and displays a log for you see any
>> errors or issues.
>>
>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
>> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
>> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>>
>>
>>
>> allencohn wrote:
>> > Hi again,
>> >
>> > Yup, I have Java installed.
>> >
>> > My questions are that the on-screen prompts don't give quite enough
direction. See my earlier message for the areas of confusion, such as should I
manually copy my files from 5.14.1 to 5.16.0 and then run the program, or use
the program to copy the files?
>> >
>> > Allen
>> >
>> > --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@>
wrote:
>> >
>> >> Never mind about the command line. That was when I had to troubleshoot it.
>> >>
>> >> Double clicking on the Batch-Convert.jar should pop up a window. After
>> >> that it should be a matter of following the on screen prompts...
>> >>
>> >> You need Java installed for this to work. If click on the Jar file
>> >> doesn't do anything, then you need to make a .BAT file... in that case
>> >> use this:
>> >> java -jar batch-convert.jar
>> >>
>> >> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
>> >> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
>> >> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
>> >> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

<div><br></div>

OK...I attempted it and had two serious problems (so far):

1. While the batch converter can find my hand-coded files (perhaps because a
.pcc is in the lot) it cannot find the files generated by the LST generator.
These are the files located at pcgen5160/data/customsources/35e. And I'm pretty
sure that the 5.14.1 generated LST files are NOT 5.16.0 compatible. Any idea how
to make the converter fix this?

2. The converter spat out a variety of ominous warning messages. Would any kind
expert out there be willing to look at the errors and tell me which I actually
need to do something about? (I only understood a few elements of 5.14.1 code...I
have no idea how 5.16.0 code is different...)

Many thanks,
Allen


--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Wilson <andrew@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, do one of those things :-).
>
> Actually, I would suggest that you copy the originals to some new
> location, then process them to some other new location, finally,
> copy the converted files into 5.16. That should give you less chance
> of accidentally over-writing something.
>
> 2009/5/5 allencohn <allen@...>:

Flagging for Tom

Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



allencohn wrote:
> OK...I attempted it and had two serious problems (so far):
>
> 1. While the batch converter can find my hand-coded files (perhaps because a
.pcc is in the lot) it cannot find the files generated by the LST generator.
These are the files located at pcgen5160/data/customsources/35e. And I'm pretty
sure that the 5.14.1 generated LST files are NOT 5.16.0 compatible. Any idea how
to make the converter fix this?
>
> 2. The converter spat out a variety of ominous warning messages. Would any
kind expert out there be willing to look at the errors and tell me which I
actually need to do something about? (I only understood a few elements of 5.14.1
code...I have no idea how 5.16.0 code is different...)
>
> Many thanks,
> Allen
>
>
> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Wilson <andrew@...> wrote:
>
>> Yes, do one of those things :-).
>>
>> Actually, I would suggest that you copy the originals to some new
>> location, then process them to some other new location, finally,
>> copy the converted files into 5.16. That should give you less chance
>> of accidentally over-writing something.
>>
>> 2009/5/5 allencohn <allen@...>:
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


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I have been trying to make a feat that gives weapon focus to a group of weapons.
When I try the CHOOSE tag, the list I receive only present me the weapons
individually to choose from.

i.e.
CHOOSE:WEAPONPROFS|TYPE.Mace|TYPE.LightBlade|TYPE.Spear|TYPE.Staff|TYPE.HeavyBla\
de|TYPE.Axe|TYPE.Flail|TYPE.Hammer|TYPE.Pick|TYPE.Polearm|TYPE.Crossbow|TYPE.Sli\
ng|TYPE.Bow
BONUS:WEAPONPROF=%LIST|TOHIT|1
BONUS:WEAPONPROF=%LIST|TOHIT|2|PRELEVEL:MIN=11,MAX=20

Is there a way to receive a grouped list?

There are methods to get 'weapon groups' but the existing syntax is not
designed to handle it, yet.

See CHOOSE:WEAPONPROFS builds it's list from the Proficiencies File,
since you don't see 'TYPE.Blah' as an actual Proficiency it finds it
invalid. Ignore the fact that 'TYPE' does exist in the file, it's
building only from the NAME at the beginning of the line.
Although having CHOOSE:WEAPONPROFTYPES might work, if we had it...

If you don't want to rework proficiencies and weapons then you need to
do the following:

Make a new feat for each group you want
Add the group 'TYPE' in the weapon proficiency to each weapon
proficiency (RSRD has this already if you need to see a working example)
Have you're feat reference the 'type' using BONUS:WEAPONPROF=TYPE.Foo|y|z
NOTE:This will not prevent the weapon from appearing in the Weapon Focus
Feat, with the potential of getting a double bonus.

The above is less work than this next method:
My workaround in certain sets that actually use groups was to make the
groups (Following is an example)
Pikes
Swords
Ranged

Then you change the PROFICIENCY:WEAPON|x  with x being the name of the
group, and you do this for each weapon.

So instead of Long Sword having Proficiency of Long Sword, it is now
changed to Swords. Does that make sense?

Note, we have a FREQ for having multiple Proficiencies in the
'PROFICIENCY'' tag, so once that happens, groups will be easier to
implement.

Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



thaldorf wrote:
> I have been trying to make a feat that gives weapon focus to a group of
weapons. When I try the CHOOSE tag, the list I receive only present me the
weapons individually to choose from.
>
> i.e.
>
CHOOSE:WEAPONPROFS|TYPE.Mace|TYPE.LightBlade|TYPE.Spear|TYPE.Staff|TYPE.HeavyBla\
de|TYPE.Axe|TYPE.Flail|TYPE.Hammer|TYPE.Pick|TYPE.Polearm|TYPE.Crossbow|TYPE.Sli\
ng|TYPE.Bow
> BONUS:WEAPONPROF=%LIST|TOHIT|1
> BONUS:WEAPONPROF=%LIST|TOHIT|2|PRELEVEL:MIN=11,MAX=20
>
> Is there a way to receive a grouped list?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Help...anyone...Buehler? Buehler?

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> Flagging for Tom
>
> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>
>
>
> allencohn wrote:
> > OK...I attempted it and had two serious problems (so far):
> >
> > 1. While the batch converter can find my hand-coded files (perhaps because a
.pcc is in the lot) it cannot find the files generated by the LST generator.
These are the files located at pcgen5160/data/customsources/35e. And I'm pretty
sure that the 5.14.1 generated LST files are NOT 5.16.0 compatible. Any idea how
to make the converter fix this?
> >
> > 2. The converter spat out a variety of ominous warning messages. Would any
kind expert out there be willing to look at the errors and tell me which I
actually need to do something about? (I only understood a few elements of 5.14.1
code...I have no idea how 5.16.0 code is different...)
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Allen
> >

Go ahead and email me the messages direct.

Question: Does the set work in pcgen?

Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



allencohn wrote:
> Help...anyone...Buehler? Buehler?
>
> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...>
wrote:
>
>> Flagging for Tom
>>
>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
>> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
>> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>>
>>
>>
>> allencohn wrote:
>>
>>> OK...I attempted it and had two serious problems (so far):
>>>
>>> 1. While the batch converter can find my hand-coded files (perhaps because a
.pcc is in the lot) it cannot find the files generated by the LST generator.
These are the files located at pcgen5160/data/customsources/35e. And I'm pretty
sure that the 5.14.1 generated LST files are NOT 5.16.0 compatible. Any idea how
to make the converter fix this?
>>>
>>> 2. The converter spat out a variety of ominous warning messages. Would any
kind expert out there be willing to look at the errors and tell me which I
actually need to do something about? (I only understood a few elements of 5.14.1
code...I have no idea how 5.16.0 code is different...)
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Allen
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Allan,

I apologize for the slow response from me, I just got home from 14 hours of
plane flights and a week long contract negotiation with a business partner, so I
haven't read any of the thread until now.

A lot of this seems to have been handled "in stream", but for posterity and to
cover some open issues:


--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "allencohn" <allen@...> wrote:
>
> It's interesting that I need a command line in a DOS window to activate it.
>
> At one point I just double clicked on BatchConvert.jar and it seemed to fire
up just fine...
>

The docs from an old note of mine are no longer valid.  It originally required a
command line to launch until James (thanks, James!) did some work to put a UI on
the front end to ask the appropriate configuration questions.  At this point, as
you've discovered, double clicking on BatchConvert.jar should be sufficient.


--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "allencohn" <allen@...> wrote:
> I don't think I'm making my key question clear. Do I

> B) Do not copy over any files but instead run the converter which will, in the
process of running, copy over the files from 5.14.1 to 5.16.0

^^ B

The converter will not modify the incoming files, so there is no need to copy
them before conversion.  Hopefully the system won't allow you to overwrite the
files. I think I tested that :)

There have been some reported issues when significantly changing the directory
in which things are written (and I haven't had a chance to debug it & write a
fix yet), so I would advise the following: In your PCGen 5.14.1 install create a
directory called "newdata".  Identify "newdata" as the target directory in the
conversion.  The copy the converted directories by hand into the data directory
in your PCGen 5.16 install.

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "allencohn" <allen@...> wrote:
> 1. While the batch converter can find my hand-coded files (perhaps because a
.pcc is in the lot) it cannot find the files generated by the LST generator.
These are the files located at pcgen5160/data/customsources/35e. And I'm pretty
sure that the 5.14.1 generated LST files are NOT 5.16.0 compatible. Any idea how
to make the converter fix this?

This is actually an interesting question, and a problem I had not considered in
writing the converter.

Two things:
(1) Try just copying it over into 5.16, open PCGen, make a data change (create a
throw-away item) and close PCGen.  This should force a save in the new syntax. 
The next load into 5.16 shouldn't generate any errors.  There are a few cases
where this will fail, but it should cover 90+% of cases.
(2) We will have to look into this as an enhancement.  TM, FREQ please.

> 2. The converter spat out a variety of ominous warning messages. Would any
kind expert out there be willing to look at the errors and tell me which I
actually need to do something about? (I only understood a few elements of 5.14.1
code...I have no idea how 5.16.0 code is different...)

Since I wrote a good portion of the messages you are welcome to send them to me
in personal mail.  I'm not going to guarantee a rapid response (so sending to
Andrew as well to see what he can help with may be useful), as I'm going to
remain sparse for a bit as I'm
working through the weekend on both my "day job" that got displaced this last
week and the contract issues from the negotiation.

TP.

I have coded up an alternative iterative attacks template, and it works
fine for displaying weapons. My problem is with the CMB (Pathfinder),
which is used instead of Grapple, and is defined only as a Variable.

Here are some code snippets and what shows up. In the /head section:
<script language="JavaScript">
// <!-- ;
function setCMB(baseattackbonus) {
if (baseattackbonus >= 6) {
document.write("equal to or larger than 6");
} else {
document.write("less than 6");
}
// < end hide -->
</script>

Further on down in the /body section:
<td width="15%">setCMB(|ATTACK.MELEE.BASE|)</td>
Even though setCMB is a function, what is actually is displayed in the
browser is: "setCMB(+3)"

<td width="15%"><script
language="javascript">setCMB(|ATTACK.MELEE.BASE|);</script></td>
Displays a blank field, ie nothing at all.

I have tried to put document.write in the <td>, and just return the
phrase that I want printed.

Can someone give me some pointers, or outright tell me what I am doing
wrong? thanks!!!


David
Papa.DRB

Grognard (definition 1)
<http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Edavidstuff/Grognard.html>
My better half and me
<http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Edavidstuff/Nana-and-Papa2.JPG>
Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
The Internet: Because None of Us Are As Dumb as All of Us

I just downloaded version 5.16 and have been trying to put some spells from
other source books (PHII, Spell Compendium etc.)into the list editor on the
tools tab. This worked fine in previous versions but now every time I do it I
get a glitch. I put in that it is a sorcerer spell and after saving it deletes
the fact that it is a sorcerer spell. Can anyone tell me what is up, or have
they had the same problem?

2789566 can't make spells in list editor stick for sorcerer
<https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2789566&group_id=25576&atid=38\
4719>


Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



emeraldcad wrote:
> I just downloaded version 5.16 and have been trying to put some spells from
other source books (PHII, Spell Compendium etc.)into the list editor on the
tools tab. This worked fine in previous versions but now every time I do it I
get a glitch. I put in that it is a sorcerer spell and after saving it deletes
the fact that it is a sorcerer spell. Can anyone tell me what is up, or have
they had the same problem?
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I just want to publicly give Andrew Maitland mad props for the extensive help he
gave me this weekend. He spent several hours helping me migrate some *very*
stale LST code to 5.16.0 compliance. He truly earned his "Legacy King" title.

Also thanks to Tom and the all the members of this Group. You've all been
extremely helpful and generous with your support.

Allen Cohn

Well, thanks. (I think I'm blushing and the phrase "Ah shucks" comes to
mind, like in those old warner bros cartoons)

Though LegacyKing isn't a Title, it's a screen name I used when I made
my own forum and web site back in 2004. It was suggested by the
co-creator at the time, so I stuck with it.

The applicable title, if you really want to know, is Data/LST Chimp.
(means I've been around and done a lot of data work for a long while).

The True 'Legacy Kings' of PCGen are Tir, Barak and Eddy.... and many
others who aren't as active in the project anymore.

Anyways, I appreciate the gratitude.

Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



allencohn wrote:
> I just want to publicly give Andrew Maitland mad props for the extensive help
he gave me this weekend. He spent several hours helping me migrate some *very*
stale LST code to 5.16.0 compliance. He truly earned his "Legacy King" title.
>
> Also thanks to Tom and the all the members of this Group. You've all been
extremely helpful and generous with your support.
>
> Allen Cohn
>
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Hi Allen,

Thanks for that, it's nice to see one of the team get well deserved praise from
our users, help us all keep going with this crazy project ;)

K

> I just want to publicly give Andrew Maitland mad props for the extensive help
he gave me this weekend. He spent several hours helping me migrate some *very*
stale LST code to 5.16.0 compliance. He truly earned his "Legacy King" title.
>
> Also thanks to Tom and the all the members of this Group. You've all been
extremely helpful and generous with your support.
>
> Allen Cohn
>

Your function looks like it doesn't have the correct number of closing brackets.
Throw an alert("me!"); call in the first line of the function to make sure it's
being called.

K

> I have coded up an alternative iterative attacks template, and it works
> fine for displaying weapons. My problem is with the CMB (Pathfinder),
> which is used instead of Grapple, and is defined only as a Variable.
>
> Here are some code snippets and what shows up. In the /head section:
> <script language="JavaScript">
> // <!-- ;
> function setCMB(baseattackbonus) {
> if (baseattackbonus >= 6) {
> document.write("equal to or larger than 6");
> } else {
> document.write("less than 6");
> }
> // < end hide -->
> </script>
>
> Further on down in the /body section:
> <td width="15%">setCMB(|ATTACK.MELEE.BASE|)</td>
> Even though setCMB is a function, what is actually is displayed in the
> browser is: "setCMB(+3)"
>
> <td width="15%"><script
> language="javascript">setCMB(|ATTACK.MELEE.BASE|);</script></td>
> Displays a blank field, ie nothing at all.
>
> I have tried to put document.write in the <td>, and just return the
> phrase that I want printed.
>
> Can someone give me some pointers, or outright tell me what I am doing
> wrong? thanks!!!
>
>
> David
> Papa.DRB
>
> Grognard (definition 1)
> <http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Edavidstuff/Grognard.html>
> My better half and me
> <http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Edavidstuff/Nana-and-Papa2.JPG>
> Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
> The Internet: Because None of Us Are As Dumb as All of Us
>

Fixed the }'s and added the alert("Me!"). The alert is not being called.
Tried via Print Preview and Exporting. What is showing up in the
exported file is:

<td width="15%">getCMB(+3)</td>

Shouldn't that call the function? Am I missing a setting?

David
Papa.DRB

Grognard (definition 1)
<http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Edavidstuff/Grognard.html>
My better half and me
<http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Edavidstuff/Nana-and-Papa2.JPG>
Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
The Internet: Because None of Us Are As Dumb as All of Us


Martijn Verburg wrote:
> Your function looks like it doesn't have the correct number of closing
brackets.  Throw an alert("me!"); call in the first line of the function to make
sure it's being called.
>
> K

Hey there,
I am trying to code a ring, that gives as a bonus a complete level of a "Dragon
Disciple" without needing the XPs for that level and if there are allready
levels in "Dragon Disciple" it should stack.
 
I read all that BONUS stuff 3 times but maybe I am to wired in the end.
 
Any ideas, which tag I should use in the equimpent   .lst
 
Thank you for helping, all you helpers!
 
Ullrich




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Hi,

That is a tall order. There isn't a way to just grant an entire class
level by a piece of equipment. Assuming you mean BAB and Saves
Progression, associated ability and such.

The closest you have is for spellcasters - You can use ADD:SPELLCASTER|x
which will grant a spellcaster level for the purposes of spellcasting
but no other benefits.

The follow up tag is BONUS:PCLEVEL but again that is for granting a
bonus levels to an EXISTING spellcasting class...

I don't know if this would work, but you can try it for your game. [I do
know it works, see below]

ADD the Dragon Disciple Class normally (Yes, it will do the whole XP
stuff, ignore it)

Then create a template or ability...

Level Adjustment Buy down 1

VISIBLE:DISPLAY
LEVELADJUSTMENT:-1

I don't know if it will do anything in this case... It'd take a minute
to test it. Hm, only a minute, fine I'll test it. But that takes away
the sense of adventure... okay, well, be that way.


Do you want to know what happened?

It worked. Now, I feel that I deprived you of this opportunity to find
out for yourself.

Now, you asked what tag to use in the equipment to get this to work...
Well, if you really want it to be only when you take the item:

You'll need to test to see if it works (Both should)
Add this to the equipment:
     TEMPLATE:Level Adjustment Buy down 1

Simple and straightforward... the second method is:
Add this to the equipment:
     ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|Reduce XP for Bonus Level

Make a new ability:
     Reduce XP for Bonus Level
     TEMPLATE:Level Adjustment Buy down 1


  and there you go, a method to add the template via ability object or
the template direct by equipment. Note: I did not test these equipment
methods, I'll not deprive you further of trial and error testing. ;-)

Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



Ullrich Kordt wrote:
> Hey there,
> I am trying to code a ring, that gives as a bonus a complete level of a
"Dragon Disciple" without needing the XPs for that level and if there are
allready levels in "Dragon Disciple" it should stack.
>
> I read all that BONUS stuff 3 times but maybe I am to wired in the end.
>
> Any ideas, which tag I should use in the equimpent   .lst
>
> Thank you for helping, all you helpers!
>
> Ullrich
>
>
>
>
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I recently created a kit for a custom race. The race is Large. I used the code:

GEAR:Longsword 	 SIZE:L LOCATION:Primary Hand
GEAR:Chain Shirt 	 SIZE:PC LOCATION:Equipped
GEAR:Shield (Light/Metal) SIZE:PC LOCATION:Equipped


Note how I had to use "L" for the size of the longsword, but "PC" for the other
stuff. That's because when I used "PC" for the longsword PCGen equipped the
creature with a medium size version. The Chain Shirt and Shield came out Large
as expected.

Thanks,
Allen

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Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



allencohn wrote:
> I recently created a kit for a custom race. The race is Large. I used the
code:
>
> GEAR:Longsword 	 SIZE:L LOCATION:Primary Hand
> GEAR:Chain Shirt 	 SIZE:PC LOCATION:Equipped
> GEAR:Shield (Light/Metal) SIZE:PC LOCATION:Equipped
>
>
> Note how I had to use "L" for the size of the longsword, but "PC" for the
other stuff. That's because when I used "PC" for the longsword PCGen equipped
the creature with a medium size version. The Chain Shirt and Shield came out
Large as expected.
>
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
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Hey, Monkeys...when you all return from vacation in Monkeyland (no rush at
all)...I have a question:

A friend just gave me some LST data...but it's very old. From 2005! I know
there's the batch converter in 5.16.0 that migrates from 5.14...but I would like
to migrate from even earlier versions.

Are there other batch converters hiding, ones that make some of the earlier
migrations?

Also, is there an easy way to look at code and tell what version it's compliant
to?

Thanks,
Allen

Some monkeys don't take true vacations... Most of the monkeys need a
break, which means you're stuck with me. :P

For converting old sets, well, depending how old you are talking,
prettylst has a feature to convert *some* things to 5.10/5.12 era; for
5.12 to 5.14 Barak's script converter is great, and then 5.14 to 5.16
you can use the converter Tom includes with PCGen now.

Unfortunately, there isn't a versioning number system for data sets, the
closest we have are the OOC sets...

Here's a good indicator what version you are using:

In the class file is it: (Giving rough guess of version)
1 <> ADD:FEAT|Blah > 5.12
or
1 <> ADD:FEAT(Blah) > pre 5.12

Do you see
1 <> SAB:Something (Valid in all versions, though in core stuff it's pre
5.14)
or
1 <> ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|Something (5.14 or later)

That's a summation. For the scientific method, grab the different
incarnations of pcgen 5.6, 5.8, 5.10, 5.12 and see which one has errors.
Chances are one version will work, maybe two, that is where you know the
set works.

Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



allencohn wrote:
> Hey, Monkeys...when you all return from vacation in Monkeyland (no rush at
all)...I have a question:
>
> A friend just gave me some LST data...but it's very old. From 2005! I know
there's the batch converter in 5.16.0 that migrates from 5.14...but I would like
to migrate from even earlier versions.
>
> Are there other batch converters hiding, ones that make some of the earlier
migrations?
>
> Also, is there an easy way to look at code and tell what version it's
compliant to?
>
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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Thanks for the rules of thumb.

I think it's pre 5.12.

How do I find and operate Barak's script converter?

Is there prettylst installation documentation anywhere?

Thanks,
Allen



--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...> wrote:
>
> Some monkeys don't take true vacations... Most of the monkeys need a
> break, which means you're stuck with me. :P
>
> For converting old sets, well, depending how old you are talking,
> prettylst has a feature to convert *some* things to 5.10/5.12 era; for
> 5.12 to 5.14 Barak's script converter is great, and then 5.14 to 5.16
> you can use the converter Tom includes with PCGen now.
>
> Unfortunately, there isn't a versioning number system for data sets, the
> closest we have are the OOC sets...
>
> Here's a good indicator what version you are using:
>
> In the class file is it: (Giving rough guess of version)
> 1 <> ADD:FEAT|Blah > 5.12
> or
> 1 <> ADD:FEAT(Blah) > pre 5.12
>
> Do you see
> 1 <> SAB:Something (Valid in all versions, though in core stuff it's pre
> 5.14)
> or
> 1 <> ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|Something (5.14 or later)
>
> That's a summation. For the scientific method, grab the different
> incarnations of pcgen 5.6, 5.8, 5.10, 5.12 and see which one has errors.
> Chances are one version will work, maybe two, that is where you know the
> set works.
>
> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>

Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"



allencohn wrote:
> Thanks for the rules of thumb.
>
> I think it's pre 5.12.
>
> How do I find and operate Barak's script converter?
>

It's on this yahoo group under the files section, it has some documentation
> Is there prettylst installation documentation anywhere?
>

Yes, prettylst actually comes with it's own documentation. If you need
help setting it up, don't hesitate to ask. I have used both.
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
>
>
> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Maitland <drew0500@...>
wrote:
>
>> Some monkeys don't take true vacations... Most of the monkeys need a
>> break, which means you're stuck with me. :P
>>
>> For converting old sets, well, depending how old you are talking,
>> prettylst has a feature to convert *some* things to 5.10/5.12 era; for
>> 5.12 to 5.14 Barak's script converter is great, and then 5.14 to 5.16
>> you can use the converter Tom includes with PCGen now.
>>
>> Unfortunately, there isn't a versioning number system for data sets, the
>> closest we have are the OOC sets...
>>
>> Here's a good indicator what version you are using:
>>
>> In the class file is it: (Giving rough guess of version)
>> 1 <> ADD:FEAT|Blah > 5.12
>> or
>> 1 <> ADD:FEAT(Blah) > pre 5.12
>>
>> Do you see
>> 1 <> SAB:Something (Valid in all versions, though in core stuff it's pre
>> 5.14)
>> or
>> 1 <> ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|Something (5.14 or later)
>>
>> That's a summation. For the scientific method, grab the different
>> incarnations of pcgen 5.6, 5.8, 5.10, 5.12 and see which one has errors.
>> Chances are one version will work, maybe two, that is where you know the
>> set works.
>>
>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
>> Admin Silverback, PCGen Board of Directors
>> Data Chimp, Docs Tamarin
>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
>>
>>
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Hello again,

I'm creating a type of giant that normally has a +4 racial bonus to hide (I know
how to do that), but it's +8 in a desert setting (I don't know how to do that).

Is there a way to add descriptive text like "in desert areas racial bonus to
Hide increases by 4"?

Thanks,
Allen

More on my giant: the range increment for his thrown rock is 120 feet. Where do
I specify that?

Thanks again,
Allen