I *still* can't get .COPY to work for me.  Here's a simple example in a
custom templates lst file:

Lycanthrope (Werebear).COPY=Evil Werebear PREALIGN:8 VISIBLE:YES
Evil Werebear.COPY=Lycanthrope (Werebear) PREALIGN:8 VISIBLE:YES

Neither one of these two lines work.   Try commenting out one or the
other.

-Greg G


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I have a couple of related problems in some custom class files. One class
requires the proficiency in any one of the bows. Right now the only way I've
found to do this is with PREFEAT:1,Martial Weapon Proficiency
(Longbow),Martial Weapon Proficiency (Longbow (Composite)),etc..., which
isn't very good since it's an ugly tag and doesn't account for any other
bows that might be added. PREWEAPONPROF would be better, but according to
the docs you have to be proficient in all of the weapons, not just one. Best
of all would be a way of doing either PREFEAT:1,Martial Weapon Proficiency
(TYPE=BOW) or PREWEAPONPROF:TYPE=BOW (this last would also require
PREWEAPONPROF to be modified to allow only one of the listed weapon profs to
qualify).

Similarly, I have another class that requires weapon focus with any sword. I
certainly don't want to have to do a PREFEAT:1,Weapon Focus(list of every
sword type in existence) type of thing here. Is there a way to use weapon
types in these sorts of tags?

Okay I have been wrestling with these files for a while. I created
them with 423, and they worked up until 427, which is the last time I
needed them. But now for some reason they won't work with 500 or 510.
And I've been over every @#$% line twice. Could somebody take a look
at them and figure out what either changed or is making them NOT
load? Once I get them loading I can keep working on them. And as a
side note yes I did run them through the LST Convertor.

The file is in the Yahoo group here labeled "paul.zip", I have
included a char pcg that they used to work with.

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Eric Beaudoin
<beaudoer@v...> wrote:
> prettylst.pl v1.28
> ==================
>
> I've released a new version of prettylst.pl that might be of help
for those of you who create their own PCGEN data files. The script
main usage is to reformat the .lst in order to make them more human
readable and it also performs some validations on the systax.
>
> This release has two new convertion: one for the VISION tags and
one for the PRECLASS tags. See the release notes or the html doc file
for more details.
>
> Release notes: <http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?
group_id=36698&release_id=156975>
>
> Files: <http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgendm/prettylst-
v128.zip?download>
>
>
> Instructions
> ============
>
> Please read the release notes and/or the documentation included
with both scripts to find out how to install Perl and how to run the
scripts.
>
> Best
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Éric "Space Monkey" Beaudoin
> >> In space, no one can hear you sleep...
> >> Camels to can climb trees (and sometime eat them)

Umm Eric, the link to the release notes didn't lead anywhere

At 13:48 2003.05.07, Paul wrote:
>--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Eric Beaudoin
><beaudoer@v...> wrote:
>> prettylst.pl v1.28
>> ==================
>>
>> I've released a new version of prettylst.pl that might be of help
>for those of you who create their own PCGEN data files. The script
>main usage is to reformat the .lst in order to make them more human
>readable and it also performs some validations on the systax.
>>
>> This release has two new convertion: one for the VISION tags and
>one for the PRECLASS tags. See the release notes or the html doc file
>for more details.
>>
>> Release notes: <http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?
>group_id=36698&release_id=156975>
>>
>> Files: <http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pcgendm/prettylst-
>v128.zip?download>
>>
>>
>> Instructions
>> ============
>>
>> Please read the release notes and/or the documentation included
>with both scripts to find out how to install Perl and how to run the
>scripts.
>>
>> Best
>>
>
>Umm Eric, the link to the release notes didn't lead anywhere
>

That's very strange. I just click on the links in your message and both are
working... Can you try to copy everything between the <> and paste it directly
in your browser to see if that would work? What mail client do you use to read
your mail? I know someone wrote me in the past that the <> characters where
giving him problems. I use them because it allow RFC compliant mail clients to
deal properly with URI that are splited on multiple lines.


-----------------------------------------------------------
Éric "Space Monkey" Beaudoin
>> In space, no one can hear you sleep...
>> Camels to can climb trees (and sometime eat them)
<mailto:beaudoer@...>

<snip>
>>
>> Please read the release notes and/or the documentation included
>with both scripts to find out how to install Perl and how to run the
>scripts.
>>
>> Best
>>
>
>Umm Eric, the link to the release notes didn't lead anywhere
>

That's very strange. I just click on the links in your message and
both are working... Can you try to copy everything between the <> and
paste it directly in your browser to see if that would work? What mail
client do you use to read your mail? I know someone wrote me in the
past that the <> characters where giving him problems. I use them
because it allow RFC compliant mail clients to deal properly with URI
that are splited on multiple lines.
</snip>

I was actually using the yahoo web interface for the group over lunch.

I've got a class which gets the Adept spell list.  However, the
SPELLLIST tag seems to be broken.  I've tried both of these forms:

SPELLLIST:1,Adept
SPELLLIST:Adept

   With both of these, I get a popup list containing either "1,Adept" or
"Adept".  I can't select it, either.

    Any ideas?

-Greg G


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In mhy campaign there are  a few more subclasses for wizards. I was
wondering if there was a way to add them to the subclass chooser.
If so, is there a way to change the cost of choosing a specific
subclass?

I beleive the following should be added to the entries for arrows
and bolts.  I treated these as MOD (since I copied them out of my
custom lst files).  Also they need to be added to the weapon
proficiency files as exotic weapons.  These are both in the SRD and
if equiped they generate valid weapon blocks.  Someone in my
campaign wanted to be like Legolas so I had to add this *grin*.



Arrow.MOD[tab]PROFICIENCY:Arrow[tab]TYPE:Weapon.Exotic.Melee.Piercing
[tab]CRITMULT:x2[tab]CRITRANGE:2[tab]DAMAGE:1d4[tab]SIZE:T
Bolt.MOD[tab]PROFICIENCY:Bolt[tab]TYPE:Weapon.Exotic.Melee.Piercing
[tab]CRITMULT:x2[tab]CRITRANGE:2[tab]DAMAGE:1d4[tab]SIZE:T

SPELLIST:1|Adept

Just like the Sorcerer class SPELLIST:1|Wizard

Tir Gwaith
PCGen Data SB and BoD

> I've got a class which gets the Adept spell list.  However, the
> SPELLLIST tag seems to be broken.  I've tried both of these forms:
>
> SPELLLIST:1,Adept
> SPELLLIST:Adept
>
>   With both of these, I get a popup list containing either "1,Adept" or
> "Adept".  I can't select it, either.
>
>    Any ideas?
>
> -Greg G
>
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Does anyone have a new syntax file for ultra edit? I was just
installing things on anopther machine and got to wondering if
someone didn't have a newer version of the file??

And yep I'm bein lazy about this I don't want to waste time working
on it when I could be working on a lst.

Thanks ahead of time

> In mhy campaign there are  a few more subclasses for wizards. I was
> wondering if there was a way to add them to the subclass chooser.
> If so, is there a way to change the cost of choosing a specific
> subclass?

This is a fragment that I use for the Quintisential Monk lsts I am slowly
developing ;O)

CLASS:Monk.MOD[tab]ABB:Mnk[tab]HASSUBCLASS:YES
SUBCLASS:Monk[tab]COST:0[tab]CHOICE:Monk
SUBCLASS:Eunuch[tab]COST:0[tab]CHOICE:Eunuch
SUBCLASSLEVEL:1[tab]SA:Eunuch (-4 to all Charisma checks against opposite
sex) [tab]SA:Eunuch (+2 insight bonus to Sense Motive and Bluff against
opposite sex)[tab]FEATAUTO:Iron Will

regards,
Frugal
-OS Tamarin

> Subject: Re:
>
> SPELLIST:1|Adept
>
> Just like the Sorcerer class SPELLIST:1|Wizard

    Ah, just so.  Silly me, I looked at the documentation. :)  I'd like
to report a doc bug, then.

-Greg G


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> > Subject: Re:
> >
> > SPELLIST:1|Adept
> >
> > Just like the Sorcerer class SPELLIST:1|Wizard
>
>    Ah, just so.  Silly me, I looked at the documentation. :)
> I'd like to report a doc bug, then.
>
> -Greg G

What bug, or do I *really* need new glasses? This is the way it is
documented in "LST files -> Tags specific to a file -> Class files"

-- david
aka Papa_DRB
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Lo, there do I see my mother and my sisters and my brothers
Lo, there do I see the line of my people back to the beginning
Lo, they do call to me
They bid me take place among them in the Halls of Valhalla
Where the brave may live forever.

> > Subject: Re:
> >
> > SPELLIST:1|Adept
> >
> > Just like the Sorcerer class SPELLIST:1|Wizard
>
>    Ah, just so.  Silly me, I looked at the documentation. :)
> I'd like to report a doc bug, then.
>
> -Greg G

What bug, or do I *really* need new glasses? This is the way it is
documented in "LST files -> Tags specific to a file -> Class files"

-- david
aka Papa_DRB
OS/Docs TM Gibbon

I see it with a comma in my docs. Of course I'm using 5.1.0.

<start Doc Quote>
Tag Name: SKILLLIST

             Variable(s) Used: Text (Class Name)

                         Example(s): SKILLLIST:Ranger

                         Example(s): SKILLLIST:1,Ranger|Druid

                         Example(s):
SKILLLIST:2,Ranger|Druid|Barabarian

WHAT IT DOES: This is a | (pipe) delimited list of class names that
the class can choose from to duplicate class skills.  If the #, is in
place, this is used to show how many choices the class gets.

WHERE IT IS USED: Class Line
</quote>

Paul "Yes that Paul" Grosse
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"The Earth is just too small and fragile a basket for the human race
to keep all it's eggs in." - Robert Heinlein

Note, you are quoting the docs for the SKILLLIST tag, the discussion is on
the SPELLLIST tag :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Grosse [mailto:pgrosse@...]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 9:07 AM
> To: PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PCGenListFileHelp] 510 SPELLLIST broken!
>
>
>
> > > Subject: Re:
> > >
> > > SPELLIST:1|Adept
> > >
> > > Just like the Sorcerer class SPELLIST:1|Wizard
> >
> >    Ah, just so.  Silly me, I looked at the documentation. :)
> > I'd like to report a doc bug, then.
> >
> > -Greg G
>
> What bug, or do I *really* need new glasses? This is the way it is
> documented in "LST files -> Tags specific to a file -> Class files"
>
> -- david
> aka Papa_DRB
> OS/Docs TM Gibbon
>
> I see it with a comma in my docs. Of course I'm using 5.1.0.
>
> <start Doc Quote>
> Tag Name: SKILLLIST
>
>             Variable(s) Used: Text (Class Name)
>
>                         Example(s): SKILLLIST:Ranger
>
>                         Example(s): SKILLLIST:1,Ranger|Druid
>
>                         Example(s):
> SKILLLIST:2,Ranger|Druid|Barabarian
>
> WHAT IT DOES: This is a | (pipe) delimited list of class names that
> the class can choose from to duplicate class skills.  If the #, is in
> place, this is used to show how many choices the class gets.
>
> WHERE IT IS USED: Class Line
> </quote>
>
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<snip>

Note, you are quoting the docs for the SKILLLIST tag, the discussion
is on
the SPELLLIST tag :)
</snip>

Doh!, but never the less it's the same for SPELLLIST in my docs :)

<start of what I REALLY ment to quote>
Tag Name: SPELLLIST

	 Variable(s) Used: Text (Class Name)
		 Example(s): SPELLLIST:Ranger
		 Example(s): SPELLLIST:1,Ranger|Druid
		 Example(s): SPELLLIST:2,Ranger|Druid|Barabarian
		 Example(s): SPELLLIST:1:Animal(Domain)

WHAT IT DOES: Optional. This is a | (pipe) delimited list of class
names that the class can choose from to duplicate spell casting
ability.  If the #, is in place, this is used to show how many choices
the class gets.

WHERE IT IS USED: Class Line
</snip>

Ah... Yes I do need new glasses!

PCGenDoc Bug #735252 "SKILLLIST:1,Ranger|Druid is wrong" has been
opened,

-- david
aka Papa_DRB
OS/Docs TM Gibbon

> I see it with a comma in my docs. Of course I'm using 5.1.0.
>
> <start Doc Quote>
> Tag Name: SKILLLIST
>             Variable(s) Used: Text (Class Name)
>                         Example(s): SKILLLIST:Ranger
>                         Example(s): SKILLLIST:1,Ranger|Druid
>                         Example(s):
> SKILLLIST:2,Ranger|Druid|Barabarian
>
> WHAT IT DOES: This is a | (pipe) delimited list of class
> names that the class can choose from to duplicate class
> skills.  If the #, is in place, this is used to show how many
> choices the class gets.

Same for SPELLLIST -- david

>
> Note, you are quoting the docs for the SKILLLIST tag, the
> discussion is on the SPELLLIST tag :)

Okay, I'm trying to make a template that adds flying to a creature,
the fly speed is the base +20. Why doesn't the following work?

MOVECLONE:Walk,0,Fly,+20

Paul "Yes that Paul" Grosse
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to keep all it's eggs in." - Robert Heinlein

----- Original Message -----

From: frugal@...

To: PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:17 AM

Subject: Re: [PCGenListFileHelp] Editing Wizard subclasses

> In mhy campaign there are  a few more subclasses for wizards. I was
> wondering if there was a way to add them to the subclass chooser.
> If so, is there a way to change the cost of choosing a specific
> subclass?

This is a fragment that I use for the Quintisential Monk lsts I am slowly
developing ;O)

CLASS:Monk.MOD[tab]ABB:Mnk[tab]HASSUBCLASS:YES
SUBCLASS:Monk[tab]COST:0[tab]CHOICE:Monk
SUBCLASS:Eunuch[tab]COST:0[tab]CHOICE:Eunuch
SUBCLASSLEVEL:1[tab]SA:Eunuch (-4 to all Charisma checks against opposite
sex)      [tab]SA:Eunuch (+2 insight bonus to Sense Motive and Bluff against
opposite sex)[tab]FEATAUTO:Iron Will

regards,
Frugal
-OS Tamarin

I think the "+" sign is implied so try

MOVECLONE:Walk,0,Fly,20

I'm guessing this from the second example in the docs. Then again the
docs also use the MOVE tag as the example for MOVECLONE. Probably
need a doc monkey to clarify that section. ;)

Hugo
LST Chimp stuck in the body of Saguinus Imperator


--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Grosse"
<pgrosse@m...> wrote:
> Okay, I'm trying to make a template that adds flying to a creature,
> the fly speed is the base +20. Why doesn't the following work?
>
> MOVECLONE:Walk,0,Fly,+20
>
> Paul "Yes that Paul" Grosse
> PCGen OGL Gibbon
> ICQ: 14397299
> AO: Nylan
> Various forums: Nylan (or Nylanfs)
>
> "The Earth is just too small and fragile a basket for the human race
> to keep all it's eggs in." - Robert Heinlein

<snip>
I think the "+" sign is implied so try

MOVECLONE:Walk,0,Fly,20

I'm guessing this from the second example in the docs. Then again the
docs also use the MOVE tag as the example for MOVECLONE. Probably
need a doc monkey to clarify that section. ;)

Hugo
LST Chimp stuck in the body of Saguinus Imperator


--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Grosse"
<pgrosse@m...> wrote:
> Okay, I'm trying to make a template that adds flying to a creature,
> the fly speed is the base +20. Why doesn't the following work?
>
> MOVECLONE:Walk,0,Fly,+20
>
> Paul "Yes that Paul" Grosse
> PCGen OGL Gibbon
> ICQ: 14397299
> AO: Nylan
> Various forums: Nylan (or Nylanfs)
>
> "The Earth is just too small and fragile a basket for the human race
> to keep all it's eggs in." - Robert Heinlein

</sip>

Yep that was it, Thanks Hugo

I have the class all written out and saved.
I read through the docs, but I can't find how I get PCGen to read my
file and add my class to the list.
Thanks in advance for any help
Antony

Take a look at List Files -> Tags Specific to a File -> PCC Files in the
documentation.


Brad

----- Original Message -----
From: "apenhiter" <antony@...>
To: <PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 10:47 PM
Subject: [PCGenListFileHelp] Help with a custom class


> I have the class all written out and saved.
> I read through the docs, but I can't find how I get PCGen to read my
> file and add my class to the list.
> Thanks in advance for any help
> Antony
>
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Hi,
I am trying to write a custom Deity file for my campaign.
The problem I am having is that when I look at the Domains page all I
see is (Deity name)\tab\tab\tab.
Is there a trick to writing these files I am unaware of? I have tried
writing the file with the insert key on as well as off. it dosn't seem
to make much of a diference.
Thanks for any help.

I am trying to create a custom class and PCGen keeps choking on the
first line.
Here is the line:
CLASS:Arcane Prodegy HD:4  SPELLSTAT:Cha SPELLTYPE:Arcane
TYPE:PC.Prestige  ABB:ArP  MAXLEVEL:10 SOURCEPAGE:Custom
LANGAUTO:Literacy  BONUS:CHECKS|BASE.REFLEX|CL/3
BONUS:CHECKS|BASE.FORTITUDE,BASE.WILLPOWER|CL/2+2 BONUS:COMBAT|BAB|CL*3/4

All on one line of course. I tried blocking out elements of the line
and  I think the problem is in the BAB. When I block out the BAB the
file loads. When I leave the BAB in the file won't load. The BAB is
the same as for the rouge so it should work.
Well I've been working on this for about 2 hours now and am going to
bed before I start pulling my hair out.
Any help would be apriciated.
Thanks
-Chris

1. The SRD files do not have the saves in capitals, but I am not sure
if it matters .
BONUS:CHECKS|BASE.Reflex|CL/2+2<TAB>BONUS:CHECKS|BASE.Fortitude,BASE.W
illpower|CL/3

2. Are you positive you do have a TAB and not a space between saves
and BAB?

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "pcn065" <cnickel1@a...>
wrote:
> I am trying to create a custom class and PCGen keeps choking on the
> first line.
> Here is the line:
> CLASS:Arcane Prodegy HD:4  SPELLSTAT:Cha
	 SPELLTYPE:Arcane
> TYPE:PC.Prestige  ABB:ArP  MAXLEVEL:10
	 SOURCEPAGE:Custom
> LANGAUTO:Literacy  BONUS:CHECKS|BASE.REFLEX|CL/3
> BONUS:CHECKS|BASE.FORTITUDE,BASE.WILLPOWER|CL/2+2
	 BONUS:COMBAT|BAB|CL*3/4
>
> All on one line of course. I tried blocking out elements of the line
> and  I think the problem is in the BAB. When I block out the BAB the
> file loads. When I leave the BAB in the file won't load. The BAB is
> the same as for the rouge so it should work.
> Well I've been working on this for about 2 hours now and am going to
> bed before I start pulling my hair out.
> Any help would be apriciated.
> Thanks
> -Chris

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "pcn065" <cnickel1@a...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to write a custom Deity file for my campaign.
> The problem I am having is that when I look at the Domains page all I
> see is (Deity name)\tab\tab\tab.
> Is there a trick to writing these files I am unaware of? I have tried
> writing the file with the insert key on as well as off. it dosn't seem
> to make much of a diference.
> Thanks for any help.

Do you have a Domain file set up? There should be domains showing up
on the right pane if Domain file(s) are set up properly. You'll also
need for your deity to refer to the domains so that the character is
able to take those domains after selecting the deity.

-Ian
LST Gorilla