Well it seems that DR has been changed again.

What would be the proper BONUS DR tag?

The old style was BONUS:DR|-|1   for a DR of 1/-

What is the new style?

Just of curiousity, who is working on this?  I've got a home-brew
Legendary Class that I'd like to set up.

Paul

----- Original Message -----

From: alanschlieper

To: PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:00 PM

Subject: [PCGenListFileHelp] Damage Reduction

Well it seems that DR has been changed again.

What would be the proper BONUS DR tag?

The old style was BONUS:DR|-|1   for a DR of 1/-

What is the new style?

I was wondering if there was a way of programming this feat, so that
when I equip my sword as my primary weapon, my shield spikes as my
off-hand weapon, and my shield the program does not complain.

I was also a way to program shield bash to recognize what size shield
I had equipped so that it would display the correct damage, but stay
a light weapon so that it can be used in the off-hand.

Thank you,
-Rich

What is a good lst editer.

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., "Brice" <flex@r...> wrote:
> What is a good lst editer.


Adding -- I guess the real question is how to save as a .lst or pcc
file. I have tried MSword, excel and notepad. They all save as text
files. What am I missing?

At 11:29 AM 11/9/2002, you wrote:
>--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., "Brice" <flex@r...> wrote:
>> What is a good lst editer.
>
>
>Adding -- I guess the real question is how to save as a .lst or pcc
>file. I have tried MSword, excel and notepad. They all save as text
>files. What am I missing?

You just need to make sure that you're saving it as text, but with the .lst or
.pcc extension. In most MS programs, this means you need to enclose the whole
file name in quotes, such as "mycustomstuff.lst" when saving. If you don't have
the quotes, MS programs will append .txt or such to the end of the file name,
making it mycustomstuff.lst.txt and such.


--
Timothy J. Lanza
"When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman

At 12:48 AM 11/9/2002, you wrote:
>I was wondering if there was a way of programming this feat, so that
>when I equip my sword as my primary weapon, my shield spikes as my
>off-hand weapon, and my shield the program does not complain.
>
>I was also a way to program shield bash to recognize what size shield
>I had equipped so that it would display the correct damage, but stay
>a light weapon so that it can be used in the off-hand.

The latest version of PCGen doesn't complain, as far as I've seen. In order to
make it work correctly, however, I've modified all the relevant items. Here are
the snippets of code, one tag per line with "--" between items.

--

Shield of Bashing
TYPE:Weapon.Martial.Melee.Standard.Bludgeoning.Metal
COST:0
WT:0
PROFICIENCY:Shieldbash
CRITMULT:x2
CRITRANGE:1
DAMAGE:1d8
HANDS:0
SIZE:S

--

Armor Spikes
TYPE:Weapon.Martial.Melee.Standard.Piercing.Metal
COST:0
WT:0
SOURCEPAGE:Custom
PROFICIENCY:Armor Spikes
CRITMULT:x2
CRITRANGE:1
DAMAGE:1d6
HANDS:0

--

Shield Spikes
TYPE:Weapon.Martial.Melee.Standard.Piercing.Metal
COST:0
WT:0
SOURCEPAGE:Custom
PROFICIENCY:Shieldbash
CRITMULT:x2
CRITRANGE:1
DAMAGE:1d6
HANDS:0
SIZE:S

--

It's the HANDS:0 part that makes it all work. It will let you give yourself two
"OFFHAND" weapons. Like I said, I haven't see it complain yet (it used to
complain on load), but it does work. In older versions, I had to fiddle with the
order I assigned things in to make it work correctly.

The COST and WEIGHT are 0 because for the most part, you're already paying for
them as part of the original item.

As for SIZE, even though a shield is not Small, it counts as a Light weapon. I
made these for a Medium sized character, so I went with Small. I'm not sure if
there's a way to say "always one size less" or "always counts as small" in LST
syntax.



--
Timothy J. Lanza
"When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., "Timothy J. Lanza" <tjlanza@p...>
wrote:
> At 11:29 AM 11/9/2002, you wrote:
> >--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., "Brice" <flex@r...> wrote:
> >> What is a good lst editer.
> >
> >
> >Adding -- I guess the real question is how to save as a .lst or
pcc
> >file. I have tried MSword, excel and notepad. They all save as
text
> >files. What am I missing?
>
> You just need to make sure that you're saving it as text, but with
the .lst or .pcc extension. In most MS programs, this means you need
to enclose the whole file name in quotes, such as "mycustomstuff.lst"
when saving. If you don't have the quotes, MS programs will
append .txt or such to the end of the file name, making it
mycustomstuff.lst.txt and such.
>

That is what I was doing wrong, thanks.
>
> --
> Timothy J. Lanza
> "When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman

I should have been clearer.  It only complained when I export using
the eqsheet.  Since my character is fighter.  I have set up with many
weapons to see what the difference is between them.  I have made the
changes that you put there and it shows the correct information, but
I still get an error box that states:

	 "Your hands are too full. Check weapons/shields already
equipped."

If I click the OK button, I now get the information in needed. Before
I used to get something about having a 2 handed weapon and it would
not show the correct information.  Thank you for your help.

-Rich


--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., "Timothy J. Lanza" <tjlanza@p...>
wrote:
> At 12:48 AM 11/9/2002, you wrote:
> >I was wondering if there was a way of programming this feat, so
that
> >when I equip my sword as my primary weapon, my shield spikes as my
> >off-hand weapon, and my shield the program does not complain.
> >
> >I was also a way to program shield bash to recognize what size
shield
> >I had equipped so that it would display the correct damage, but
stay
> >a light weapon so that it can be used in the off-hand.
>
> The latest version of PCGen doesn't complain, as far as I've seen.
In order to make it work correctly, however, I've modified all the
relevant items. Here are the snippets of code, one tag per line
with "--" between items.
>
> --
>
> Shield of Bashing
> TYPE:Weapon.Martial.Melee.Standard.Bludgeoning.Metal
> COST:0
> WT:0
> PROFICIENCY:Shieldbash
> CRITMULT:x2
> CRITRANGE:1
> DAMAGE:1d8
> HANDS:0
> SIZE:S
>
> --
>
> Armor Spikes
> TYPE:Weapon.Martial.Melee.Standard.Piercing.Metal
> COST:0
> WT:0
> SOURCEPAGE:Custom
> PROFICIENCY:Armor Spikes
> CRITMULT:x2
> CRITRANGE:1
> DAMAGE:1d6
> HANDS:0
>
> --
>
> Shield Spikes
> TYPE:Weapon.Martial.Melee.Standard.Piercing.Metal
> COST:0
> WT:0
> SOURCEPAGE:Custom
> PROFICIENCY:Shieldbash
> CRITMULT:x2
> CRITRANGE:1
> DAMAGE:1d6
> HANDS:0
> SIZE:S
>
> --
>
> It's the HANDS:0 part that makes it all work. It will let you give
yourself two "OFFHAND" weapons. Like I said, I haven't see it
complain yet (it used to complain on load), but it does work. In
older versions, I had to fiddle with the order I assigned things in
to make it work correctly.
>
> The COST and WEIGHT are 0 because for the most part, you're already
paying for them as part of the original item.
>
> As for SIZE, even though a shield is not Small, it counts as a
Light weapon. I made these for a Medium sized character, so I went
with Small. I'm not sure if there's a way to say "always one size
less" or "always counts as small" in LST syntax.
>
>
>
> --
> Timothy J. Lanza
> "When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman

I am trying to get a handle on the best way to create custom .lst
files. Does anyone have any advice on what to start on first? That
is, classes, feats,.pcc or what ever.

REBeyer

At 11:22 AM 11/10/2002, rebeyer2001 wrote:
>I am trying to get a handle on the best way to create custom .lst
>files. Does anyone have any advice on what to start on first? That
>is, classes, feats,.pcc or what ever.

Well, you obviously need the PCC in order to test it, or nothing works anyway.

As for what to start with, it doesn't really matter. Depending on how you're
designing classes, you may need to do Feats and Classes at the same time. For
example, I recreated the Harper Priest out of Magic of Faerun. They get a bunch
of special abilities that have a prereq I needed to use a calculated variable
for; those SAs actually end up as hidden feats.

The first place I'd start, if you're using it at all, is with Skills. If you
have any special/new skills, you need to have them in place or the CSKILL tags
in the classes LST will probably get confused and load incorrectly.


--
Timothy J. Lanza
"When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman

how would you write up the PREFEAT for someone who needs to have
Weapon Foucs and Weapon Specialization in their deity's weapon?

Hello all,

I posted this to the general PCGen forum, but thought that this might
be a better choice.

I am trying to update some of my custom information from v3.0.0 format
for compatibility with v4.1.5. So far all has been working, except for
one class, a cleric prestige class.  At first level, not only do they
gain a spellcasting level of cleric, but they also gain access to a
bonus domain,  The domain is Sun, though I doubt it actually matters.

For testing, I have been using a cleric with the domains of Fire and
Strength.  Once he takes a level of my class, he should then have three
domains, Fire, Strength, and Sun.  After loading the source under v
4.1.5, all seems well except a new character does not get this third
domain, and an existing character loaded into this environment loses
the Sun domain.

My code is:
1 ADD:SPELLCASTER(Divine) BONUS:DOMAIN|1 DOMAIN:Sun

I have also tried using ADD:DOMAIN with no change in functionality.

Thanks for any info any of you can provide.
Conor

I am working on adding a few classes, I got a lot of the tags to work
so far but I am having problem with one. I want to put a prerec for a
language. Here is what I put in "PRESKILL:1,Speak Language(sylvan)"
But when loaded it does not work. It shows but stays red when the
skill is taken.

Next question, Under the class level section I want to add a bonus to
a stat at certin levels. What is the currect tag?

Next question, Can someone explain SA: & Define: a little better.

Next question When putting in the tags is there an order that must be
followed other then for stucture. Also I noticed that there are are
more "tabs" between some tags then others, is that important?

That is it for now.

In updating my home campaign files I get debug outp put like so:

RACE: support for STATADJ0:14 has been removed. Use ADD:BONUS|STAT
instead

My question is that should

STATADJ0:14

	 become

ADD:BONUS|STR|14

TIA,

WADragunovI am the death from the darkness of the shadows, I am Sid
The Destroyer!

At 22:33 2002.11.10, Timothy 'Sid' E. Brucke wrote:
>In updating my home campaign files I get debug outp put like so:
>
>RACE: support for STATADJ0:14 has been removed. Use ADD:BONUS|STAT
>instead
>
>My question is that should
>
>STATADJ0:14
>
>        become
>
>ADD:BONUS|STR|14

BONUS:STR|14

For the cases where you had STATADJ0:*, it become

DEFINE:LOCK.STR|10

The easiest way to deal with this is to use the converter (under the tool menu
in PCGEN).

Best


-----------------------------------------------------------
Éric "Space Monkey" Beaudoin
>> In space, no one can hear you sleep...
>> Camels to can climb trees (and sometime eat them)
<mailto:beaudoer@...>

That was what i got when i load the files after i run them throught the
converter.  It's not a big problem as i really don't need those particular
animals in the game.

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., Eric Beaudoin <beaudoer@v...> wrote:
> BONUS:STR|14
>
> For the cases where you had STATADJ0:*, it become
>
> DEFINE:LOCK.STR|10
>
> The easiest way to deal with this is to use the converter (under the tool menu
in PCGEN).

WADragunov

---
The reason why Storm Troopers suck at everything has finally been explained. 
They're New Zealanders!

At 09:37 PM 11/10/2002, Brice wrote:
>I am working on adding a few classes, I got a lot of the tags to work
>so far but I am having problem with one. I want to put a prerec for a
>language. Here is what I put in "PRESKILL:1,Speak Language(sylvan)"
>But when loaded it does not work. It shows but stays red when the
>skill is taken.

You need PRELANG - check the help files for the exact syntax.

FYI: When using PRESKILL, you need to be careful about spacing. For example,
"Knowledge(Arcana)" would not work; the proper bit would be "Knowledge
(Arcana)". Also, careful with capitalization, too.

>Next question, Under the class level section I want to add a bonus to
>a stat at certin levels. What is the currect tag?

BONUS:STAT|STR|1

Change to taste. And yes, this appears to be absent in the documentation.

>Next question, Can someone explain SA: & Define: a little better.

SA displays text. If the text has variables in it, you put a % where the
variable is meant to show up in the string. At the end, you use a pipe "|" and
put the variable name.

SA:Bardic knowledge (+%)|Bardic knowledge

If the variable "Bardic knowledge" has a value of 7, this tag will output
"Bardic knowledge (+7)" on the character sheet.

--

DEFINE is used to create some of these things. Here's the example that goes with
the Bardic Knowledge ability.

BONUS:VAR|Bardic knowledge|CL=Bard+INT
DEFINE:Bardic knowledge|0

I have no idea why it's done this way... I'm not sure why they need to DEFINE it
as zero before assigning a BONUS to it. I would use DEFINE like so:

DEFINE:Bardic knowledge|CL=Bard+INT

That should do the exact same thing as the above two tags. It DEFINEs a variable
named "Bardic knowledge" and gives it a value equal to the Bard Class Level,
plus the Intelligence modifier.

>Next question When putting in the tags is there an order that must be
>followed other then for stucture. Also I noticed that there are are
>more "tabs" between some tags then others, is that important?

Not really, no. One tab between is fine. As long as they're all on the same line
when they need to be (like as part of a level or race) you're fine.

The multiple tabs are put in by a script they run on the files. It just pretties
them up; makes everything line up neatly.

>That is it for now.

Hope it helped.

--
Timothy J. Lanza
"When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman

At 10:33 PM 11/10/2002, Eric Beaudoin wrote:
>At 22:33 2002.11.10, Timothy 'Sid' E. Brucke wrote:
>>In updating my home campaign files I get debug outp put like so:
>>
>>RACE: support for STATADJ0:14 has been removed. Use ADD:BONUS|STAT
>>instead
>>
>>My question is that should
>>
>>STATADJ0:14
>>
>>        become
>>
>>ADD:BONUS|STR|14
>
>BONUS:STR|14

BONUS:STAT|STR|14 is the correct tag.


--
Timothy J. Lanza
"When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman

----- Original Message -----

From: Conor Schutzman

To: PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 8:23 PM

Subject: [PCGenListFileHelp] lst question, domains

Hello all,

I posted this to the general PCGen forum, but thought that this might
be a better choice.

I am trying to update some of my custom information from v3.0.0 format
for compatibility with v4.1.5. So far all has been working, except for
one class, a cleric prestige class.  At first level, not only do they
gain a spellcasting level of cleric, but they also gain access to a
bonus domain,  The domain is Sun, though I doubt it actually matters.

For testing, I have been using a cleric with the domains of Fire and
Strength.  Once he takes a level of my class, he should then have three
domains, Fire, Strength, and Sun.  After loading the source under v
4.1.5, all seems well except a new character does not get this third
domain, and an existing character loaded into this environment loses
the Sun domain.

My code is:
1      ADD:SPELLCASTER(Divine)      BONUS:DOMAIN|1      DOMAIN:Sun

I have also tried using ADD:DOMAIN with no change in functionality.

Thanks for any info any of you can provide.
Conor


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Hi !

I'm attempting to automaticallty add a template to every  phb race:

When I exculde phbraces.lst and cut-n-paste it into my own myraces.lst,
followed by lines like :
Human.MOD[tab]TEMPLATE:my template

It works ok (but is against the principle of having only .MOD)

But If I include normally the phbraces.lst and only put the .MOD lines
in my myraces.lst, it doesn't work.



What am I doing wrong ?


Chacal

P.S : I use pcgen 4.1.5 with jre 1.4.1 on win98se

I want for a SA to only show up if certain prerequisites are met.
It's a special ability that a class gains automatically, but the
ability isn't usable until the prerequisites are met. So I'd like to
not have it be displayed unless those prerequisites have been met.

The exact prerequisites needed would be PRESKILL:1,Perform=12.

I tried adding |PRESKILL:1,Perform=12 after the end of the SA text,
but the comma was used as a delimiter. I then tried
|PRESKILL:Perform=12, but the SA text did show up.

Any ideas, or am I stuck for the moment?

Thanks,
-Ian

I've got a feat in which I've got this code:
CHOOSE:SKILLSNAMED|TYPE.Knowledge|2 BONU:SKILL|LIST|2

However, the choose is only letting me select ONE of the listed skills.
  From what I'm seeing in other lst files, I should be able to select
two.  The docs don't say anything at all about this (that I could
find).

-Greg G


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Try CHOOSE:NUMCHOICES=2|SKILLSNAMED|TYPE.Knowledge instead

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., Phantom of Krankor <torcha.geo@y...>
wrote:
>
> I've got a feat in which I've got this code:
> CHOOSE:SKILLSNAMED|TYPE.Knowledge|2 BONU:SKILL|LIST|2
>
> However, the choose is only letting me select ONE of the listed
skills.
>  From what I'm seeing in other lst files, I should be able to select
> two.  The docs don't say anything at all about this (that I could
> find).
>
> -Greg G

It looks to me like there's some hard-coded stuff in PCGen for Weapon
Proficiencies.  For example, I've copied the PHB's Exotic Weapon
Proficiency feat into my own feat file and changed it's name.  It no
longer functions correctly.  The CHOOSE box that comes up has two
options "1" and "Exotic".  Clearly, that's not what I want.

Any idea what I can do?  I can't really do a .MOD and change the
display name, since I need to do a couple of similar feats.

-Greg G


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Thanks.  That worked.

-Greg G


--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., "Ian Dale" <ian_dale@h...> wrote:
> Try CHOOSE:NUMCHOICES=2|SKILLSNAMED|TYPE.Knowledge instead
>
> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., Phantom of Krankor <torcha.geo@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've got a feat in which I've got this code:
> > CHOOSE:SKILLSNAMED|TYPE.Knowledge|2 BONU:SKILL|LIST|2
> >
> > However, the choose is only letting me select ONE of the listed
> skills.
> >  From what I'm seeing in other lst files, I should be able to
select
> > two.  The docs don't say anything at all about this (that I could
> > find).
> >
> > -Greg G

----- Original Message -----

From: Phantom of Krankor

To: pcgenlistfilehelp@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:49 PM

Subject: [PCGenListFileHelp] 415 Weapon Prof Feats

It looks to me like there's some hard-coded stuff in PCGen for Weapon
Proficiencies.  For example, I've copied the PHB's Exotic Weapon
Proficiency feat into my own feat file and changed it's name.  It no
longer functions correctly.  The CHOOSE box that comes up has two
options "1" and "Exotic".  Clearly, that's not what I want.

Any idea what I can do?  I can't really do a .MOD and change the
display name, since I need to do a couple of similar feats.

-Greg G


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Actually, I did have "Exotic" first.  It turns out that I didn't have
any weapprofs of type "Exotic".  Kinda weird, but that's what
happened.

-Greg G

--- In PCGenListFileHelp@y..., "Tir Gwaith" <thoron-tir-gwaith@l...>
wrote:
> For now, It needs the name at the front....  That is going away VERY
soon - it's on Bryan's to-do list this week because of d20M,
Cityscape, and few others.  Mostly Modern.
>
> Tir Gwaith
> Soul Reaper Silverback and List File Silverback
> Chief LST Chimp
> Strange Monkey
> MM Race Dragon
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Phantom of Krankor
>   To: pcgenlistfilehelp@y...
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:49 PM
>   Subject: [PCGenListFileHelp] 415 Weapon Prof Feats
>
>
>
>   It looks to me like there's some hard-coded stuff in PCGen for
Weapon
>   Proficiencies.  For example, I've copied the PHB's Exotic Weapon
>   Proficiency feat into my own feat file and changed it's name.  It
no
>   longer functions correctly.  The CHOOSE box that comes up has two
>   options "1" and "Exotic".  Clearly, that's not what I want.
>
>   Any idea what I can do?  I can't really do a .MOD and change the
>   display name, since I need to do a couple of similar feats.
>
>   -Greg G
>
>
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From: Phantom Of Krankor

To: PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:07 PM

Subject: [PCGenListFileHelp] Re: 415 Weapon Prof Feats

Actually, I did have "Exotic" first.  It turns out that I didn't have
any weapprofs of type "Exotic".  Kinda weird, but that's what
happened.

-Greg G