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Hi all here!

My reading of new articles in parapsychology has been rather poor during the
last year, but after all I dare to write about a topic that is very
important in my opinion.

As I understand it, the area of priority in parapsychology has already for a
long time been shifted from research trying to get more evidence for psi to
process-oriented research, trying to understand the underlying psi
processes. This in hope that the field would have much stronger development
with this policy. Has this hope been realized? No, in my opinion.

The psi processes are unreachable to our sense organs and measuring
instruments, and it is possible to get information of the processes only
indirectly. All information that has been gathered is naturally very
important and valuable. But for the time being we are still fumbling in the
dark, because we cannot know for sure what _really_ happens. The task has
turn out to be much more difficult than has been assumed. Therefore I don't
expect any scientific breakthrough in parapsychology in the near future.

Concentrating on the process-oriented experimental research has been so
strong that the research of spontaneous cases has been left aside. Adrian
Parker tells us in his important state-of-the-art article

www.zem.demon.co.uk/parker.htm

that Ian Stevenson retired from the membership in PA in protest to
neglecting the spontaneous phenomena by PA.

Experimental research yields nearly without exception only very small effect
sizes, that are not interesting to the general public. Perhaps it is
therefore the PEAR institute is now closing. In my opinion, the
parapsychologists are too much concerned within their internal affairs to
notice what is happening in the world outside. What is needed is really
strong evidence to show that psi-phenomena really exist in the real world.
When there is more interest in the topic, there is also more funding and
more progress. And spontaneous cases yield by far the strongest phenomena
and strongest evidence for psi.

Good New Year to all!

- Olavi




Thu Jan 4, 2007 1:22 pm

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Hi all here! My reading of new articles in parapsychology has been rather poor during the last year, but after all I dare to write about a topic that is very ...
Olavi Kiviniemi
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Jan 4, 2007
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Olavi, You're not alone. Many others feel the same way you do that spontaneous events should carry more weight than controlled settings within a carefully...
Free Thinker
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Jan 4, 2007
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Someone once pointed out to me a falacy in Western Science. That falacy is as follows. Most people think Science tries to prove things exist. However, what...
Jeff
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Jan 6, 2007
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Hi Olavi. I am not sure that increasing interest in process-oriented research necessarily represents a move away from gathering evidence for psi. You are...
Art Basaran
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Jan 6, 2007
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First, I would like to wish a Happy New Year to all of you . May all of you find the sparks of Light and Hope that will bring to you enthousiasm, joy of life...
Maryse
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Jan 6, 2007
10:57 pm

... Then this is not a scientific endeavor you are undertaking. I have been under the impression that this is a scientific message board. As such, this...
Art Basaran
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Jan 9, 2007
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Just a couple of comments on the on-going conversation: Roseheim and Scole are presented as "solid" evidence (that's how it reads to me) and Art takes issue...
Nancy L. Zingrone
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Jan 17, 2007
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Hello Doctor Zingrone, I did not recognize your name at first. It is an honor to speak with you. I have read many of the articles that you have published....
Art Basaran
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