Hi Olavi,

> Such a good situation you have in Austria! In Finland we have only
skeptics ruling strongly everywhere in the scientific community.

Come on, the situation in Austria is by far not that good -- it appears,
man tends to see only the positive if viewing from outside and gets
envious.

>> I disagree insofar as I believe the late British physicist John
Hasted has done a good job in investigating PMB. See his book "The Metal
Benders." London: Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1980. There is also a
documentary "Spoon Bending" by Adrin Neatrour (Cincle Cut Motion Pictures).

> Yes, I know the book. I bought it soon after it was published. There
is much valuable information in the book, but it is a typical
investigation by a physicist, leaving important metallurgical
possibilities unexplored and losing unnecessarily great quantities of
information.

Do you have any suggestions what could be done from a metallurgical
viewpoint (and has not been done before, e.g. as described by Berendt --
whom I mentioned -- in his book)?
I gave one of my spoons to a metallurgist of the University of Leoben
<www.unileoben.ac.at> with the disappointing result that I neither got
the promised report of his investigation nor my spoon back.

> Hasted was also too gullible in many situations in my opinion. The
glass spheres with the paperclip scrunches are a sad history. Looking
the pictures carefully it easy to see how the scrunches were made.

Yet when you take the pictures and his narration together it's a better
story ...
However, how -- do you think -- were the deformations of the paperclips
accomplished fraudulently?

> I have also received the booklet 'Bernhard Wälti: Die
Silvio-Protokolle 1976-1977'

Me too. I was friendly with Wälti who died last year aged 81.
There is a CD out with all the Silvio material ==>
http://www.silvio.info/PsiMain.htm

>> Could you provide sources for that french metallurgist?

> J. Bouvaist, he was already mentioned in the Beloff article.

Oh, that's him!

> The very important article with strong evidence is: 'C. Crussard, J.
Bouvaist: Étude de quelques déformations et transformations apparemment
anormales de métaux. Mémoires Scientifiques Revue Métallurgie - Fevrier
1978'

> There is also another less formal but good article in a French
magazine: 'François de Closets: Les pemières expériences scientifiques
sur "l'effet
Uri Geller". Sciences et Avenir 1975, novembre'

Both articles, I must confessed, went unnoticed by me. Well, I should
add, better late than never; so, may I politely ask you, if it is not
too much of a burden for you, to kindly e-mail me scans of these two
articles off-list?

>> I investigated several children at that time, ...

> Very interesting. I guess that is why you "believe" in the phenomenon
like me.

Sure. We are on the same page in this respect.

> Many parapsychologists do not believe.

Very unfortunately so.

>> I should add that there is one elderly gentleman in Germany, Reiner
Höhndorf, who successfully rans courses in PMB.

Meant to read "runs", sorry for the typo. (Not my fist and probably not
my last.)

> Ok, I am waiting for the results and scientific articles.

Hope I don't dissappoint you too much: his aim is rather the
deomstration, not so much the investigation. And so far I was not able
to find one interested scientist within the respective fields who would
be prepared to start an investigation.


Best,
Peter
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