I fixed a major bug in Force16.  Get it either from the ClieSkinner
or the SkinDIA distributions.  I've also done some minor fixes of
ClieSkinner and SkinDIA over the last month or so.  Get it all at
www.zlthemes.com/Programs.php

I'm pleased to note that a T5-compatible version of SkinT3! (renamed
SkinDIA!) is in beta testing.  (And I already have enough testers.)
Should be released in a matter of days.

--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Brandt Heckman"
<argotnaut@h...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just downloaded ClieSkinner to try. Everything looks good except
that
> I'm having problems with the wireless icon.
>
> I've tried every icon substitution setting available in prefs, but
no
> matter what I do, I can only get the wireless icon most recently
> installed, regardless of which SB skin I'm using.

The wireless icon is not a part of the SB skin, and so ClieSkinner
doesn't handle it at the moment.  Sorry!

Alex

--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Brandt Heckman"
<argotnaut@h...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just downloaded ClieSkinner to try. Everything looks good except
that
> I'm having problems with the wireless icon.
>
> I've tried every icon substitution setting available in prefs, but
no
> matter what I do, I can only get the wireless icon most recently
> installed, regardless of which SB skin I'm using.

The wireless icon is not a part of the SB skin, and so ClieSkinner
doesn't handle it at the moment.  Sorry!

Alex

Hi,

Just downloaded ClieSkinner to try. Everything looks good except that
I'm having problems with the wireless icon.

I've tried every icon substitution setting available in prefs, but no
matter what I do, I can only get the wireless icon most recently
installed, regardless of which SB skin I'm using.

Am I doing something stupid? :)

Thanks,
Lisa

TH55, no memory stick (yet)

If anybody here has or is getting a T5, please let me know.  I'd
love to know if SkinT3! works on a T5.

Version 1.30: Added custom skin merge feature.  Activated
optimization for compilation, reducing file size.  Fixed ABC/123
areas of landscape components of Geeky skin.

http://www.zlthemes.com/Programs.php

I fixed all my T3 skins on Palmgear to correct the landscape ABC/123
labels.
http://palmgear.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=software.developer&SID=227F9FA4-CF18-AC2E-
753522A243CF6294&PartnerREF=&userID=1000171963&orderby=downloadtotal&
direction=asc&searchtitle=Applications%20by%20Alexander%20Pruss

--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "elisedai" <elisedai@y...> wrote:
> If you merge something into a skin that previously had one skin's
> status bar merged w/the MEST skin, & then you custom merge another
> skin's landscaped 3 box skin; it seems to step on the MEST stamp &
may
> have even caused probs w/appsliprotate & statusbar files.

Well, the tricell area is the same as the MEST stamp, so if you
merge a tricell area from a non-MEST skin, you overwrite the MEST
stamp.

OK, I'm posting again b/c I was able to clarify something.
If I did the custom merge, to have one DIA skin for regular mode &
another for landscape mode, it only seems to work when I already had
the 2 cell skin showing b4 trying to meld 3 or more components. Will
test more. It seems that status bar that was checked off for 2ndary
customization i.e. made at same time as I chose diff DIA skin I chose
diff status bar; but sb shows for both regular & landscape mode.

Any questions let me know.

Eli

Now that I've spoken about my probs at length (hopefully it'll help),
I will add latest test (I had gone back until I fixed probs) it is all
good - so far - I just use lessons prev learned re: MESTamp & how it
acted/interacted.

I successfully got 2 box landscape skin to merge w/other regular skin;
which was prev merged w/MEST stamp i.e. Plazma in regular mode, Monet
in landscape  &  I'm gonna work on how things seem w/diff statusbars..

Pardon me if at this later hour I'm forgetting something, but what is
the diff between regular skins & skins converted to ST3 format?

Eli

Alex,

Yes,but...

If you merge something into a skin that previously had one skin's
status bar merged w/the MEST skin, & then you custom merge another
skin's landscaped 3 box skin; it seems to step on the MEST stamp & may
have even caused probs w/appsliprotate & statusbar files. It is almost
like turning MEST off fm the main app's program icon & not having the
skin still in memory (that old bugaboo of the MEST STamp not being
liked by backup programs...) & creating this custom 3box (the one that
  in which MESTamp placed by default) would seem to be a conflict /
problem waiting to happen.

As I said prev. it could be a coincidence or come from a pre-existing,
non-related condition; but, I did have corruption in 3 db files that
were good b4 (I know, because prev backed up saved my assets)& I
didn't notice them being corrupted b4. The corruption shows up when I
backup using RightBackUp & the log file as well as alternate display
pref option shows just where the backup failure occured.

Hope this helps.

Eli

--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "elisedai" <elisedai@y...> wrote:
> It seems that there is potential for bad results when you use the
> Custom choice for landcape 3box & you are using MEST.
>
> It may have been co-incidental or even a pre-existing condition,
but
> my adressDB.pdb & vpadDB.pdb & ZLauncherDB file were toast & had to
> delete the 1st 2 & restore fm backup & had to reinstall ZL &
recreate
> prefs all over again <sigh, but that is the price I pay for having
a
> new toy to play with to feed my creativity).
>
> Can you give some guidelines. I've been playing with it & am
trying to
> not only use it, but break it; BUT I still need some docs on the
new
> Custom stuff to make meaningful assessments i.e. know when it is
> working & when it is a 'feature' (in MicroSoftSpeak).

As far as I know, every possible combination in the custom menu
should work.  If not, it's a bug.

Thanks for reporting this.  Actually, it's a bug in all of my skins,
rather than a bug in SkinT3!.  If you try it with a skin not made by
me, it'll work fine.

--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "elisedai" <elisedai@y...> wrote:
> Alex,
>
> It shows up that way on my T3 as well & I tested it real time.
> I use the original Grafitti 1, so when in landscape mode, I changed
> into the 2 box mode & when I drew a number 3 in what should have
been
> the abc area - resulting in a B I got a 3 & vice-versa.
>
> This was under 1.26. I'm working on 1.29 separately.
>
> Eli
> --- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "paearle2000" <paul_earle@c...>
wrote:
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > I may have noticed a possible problem with SkinT3 in Landscape
Mode
> > on the T3. It seems to be across all skins. In Landscape Mode
(Left
> > handed or right handed) the small "numeric" and "letters" icons
that
> > indicate the area of the DIA are the wrong way around.
> >
> > I assume this is a generic issue rather than just limited to my
> > install.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Paul

It seems that there is potential for bad results when you use the
Custom choice for landcape 3box & you are using MEST.

It may have been co-incidental or even a pre-existing condition, but
my adressDB.pdb & vpadDB.pdb & ZLauncherDB file were toast & had to
delete the 1st 2 & restore fm backup & had to reinstall ZL & recreate
prefs all over again <sigh, but that is the price I pay for having a
new toy to play with to feed my creativity).

Can you give some guidelines. I've been playing with it & am trying to
not only use it, but break it; BUT I still need some docs on the new
Custom stuff to make meaningful assessments i.e. know when it is
working & when it is a 'feature' (in MicroSoftSpeak).

Eli
--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "arpruss" <ap85@g...> wrote:
> Please post bug reports on 1.29 (available in the FILES area) here.
> There is only one new feature, a custom merge that gives you a lot
> of flexibility.  As always before testing beta software, make a full
> backup onto a flash card.

Alex,

It shows up that way on my T3 as well & I tested it real time.
I use the original Grafitti 1, so when in landscape mode, I changed
into the 2 box mode & when I drew a number 3 in what should have been
the abc area - resulting in a B I got a 3 & vice-versa.

This was under 1.26. I'm working on 1.29 separately.

Eli
--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "paearle2000" <paul_earle@c...> wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> I may have noticed a possible problem with SkinT3 in Landscape Mode
> on the T3. It seems to be across all skins. In Landscape Mode (Left
> handed or right handed) the small "numeric" and "letters" icons that
> indicate the area of the DIA are the wrong way around.
>
> I assume this is a generic issue rather than just limited to my
> install.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul

Hi Alex,

I may have noticed a possible problem with SkinT3 in Landscape Mode
on the T3. It seems to be across all skins. In Landscape Mode (Left
handed or right handed) the small "numeric" and "letters" icons that
indicate the area of the DIA are the wrong way around.

I assume this is a generic issue rather than just limited to my
install.

Regards,

Paul

--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "paearle2000" <paul_earle@c...>
wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> I notice that there seems to be much more flexible skins designs
on
> the Clie VG area that people develop. Is this because the API of
the
> DIA on the Palm's is quite restrictive in terms of what can be
> changed/created (i.e. only backgrounds, keyboard changes - rather
> than being able to create complete custom layout DIA's?

Well, the main thing is that Palm DIA skins contain dozens of
resources that need to be designed separately with the present
tools.  For the Clie, you need to generate six images (containing
various combinations of button states) and my skin generation
scripts take care of that.  So it's harder to generate a full Palm
DIA skin, which is why all the skins I've generated have been
partial.  Still, there are a number of full skins out there.

Moreover, the Palm is flexible as to which button goes in which of
the four places in the DIA area, and app icons can appear there,
too.  This means that something like the Layered Metals skin would
be hard to do, because there the way a button looks needs to depend
on where it is on the screen.

On the other hand, Palm DIA skins can adjust the sizes of various
regions, insert keyboards, and in that way are more flexible.

Hi Alex,

I notice that there seems to be much more flexible skins designs on
the Clie VG area that people develop. Is this because the API of the
DIA on the Palm's is quite restrictive in terms of what can be
changed/created (i.e. only backgrounds, keyboard changes - rather
than being able to create complete custom layout DIA's?

Thanks
Paul

Please post bug reports on 1.29 (available in the FILES area) here.
There is only one new feature, a custom merge that gives you a lot
of flexibility.  As always before testing beta software, make a full
backup onto a flash card.

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PalmSkins
group.

   File        : /SkinT3_129beta.zip
   Uploaded by : arpruss <ap85@...>
   Description : SkinT3! 1.29 beta

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PalmSkins/files/SkinT3_129beta.zip

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

arpruss <ap85@...>

Can we have different skin for graffiti area for DIA with the buttons and
DIA without buttons ?

rgds
Harry
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...... Original Message .......
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:39:25 -0000 "arpruss" <ap85@...> wrote:
>Post your feature requests for SkinT3! as responses to this messages.
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: arpruss

To: PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:39 AM

Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] [PalmSkins] SkinT3! feature requests

Post your feature requests for SkinT3! as responses to this messages.

Post your feature requests for ClieSkinner as responses to this
message.

Post your feature requests for SkinT3! as responses to this messages.

--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "arpruss" <ap85@g...> wrote:
> --- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "elisedai" <elisedai@y...> wrote:
> > Alex,
> >
> > How's about posting the latest versions of SkinT3 & the Clie
> oriented
> > program in the Files section of this group. I'm sure it'll help
to
> > make people aware of it & boost sales.
> >
> > I tried it & I liked it!
> >
> > Eli
>
> Done.

I've removed them now and instead added a link to zlthemes in the
Links section.  I don't want to have to update five locations
(ZLthemes, Palmgear, Handango, PDAssi and Yahoo) whenever I make a
change.

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
PalmSkins group:

Which programs do you use?

   o ClieSkinner free
   o SkinT3! free
   o ClieSkinner registered
   o SkinT3! registered


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PalmSkins/surveys?id=750636

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

--- In PalmSkins@yahoogroups.com, "elisedai" <elisedai@y...> wrote:
> Alex,
>
> How's about posting the latest versions of SkinT3 & the Clie
oriented
> program in the Files section of this group. I'm sure it'll help to
> make people aware of it & boost sales.
>
> I tried it & I liked it!
>
> Eli

Done.

Alex,

How's about posting the latest versions of SkinT3 & the Clie oriented
program in the Files section of this group. I'm sure it'll help to
make people aware of it & boost sales.

I tried it & I liked it!

Eli