http://www.cirkutpanorama.com/Timelin.html
Happy Holidays

<trausti.hraunfjord@...> wrote:
...what comes will impress.  What has already been done, is beyond anything we
know from Flash pano players.

--------

So does this mean I'll need a new description? :)

Looking forward to trying your new player when it is ready.  I have already been
pleased with the very quick tests I have done with CuTY and PanoSaldao 2.

But honestly, none of the Flash players have performed well on my particular
machine (Mac G5 - 1.8 GHZ, 4 GB Memory, 256MB ATI Radeon X800 XT graphics). 
They often spin out of control, or do not respond well to mouse interaction and
appear sluggish - often crashing Firefox.

This has been very frustrating because it makes it difficult to view so many of
the great panos presented by this list, since most of you all now seem to use
Flash.  I do know that much of the performance for Flash players lies in each
viewers parameters or XML settings.  And some certainly do play better than
others (if I can view a Flash pano without my browser freezing, I consider that
a success).

My newer HP laptop, however, plays Flash panos much much better. But that is not
my main computer.

Hi all,

somehow I am unable to stitch a panorama from 2-shots using a Canon A570
with Nikon FC-E8 fisheye lens.

Anyone to the rescue with a detailed step-by-step HowTo and a working
project/template? I am a beginner with Hugin.

I am on Ubuntu Karmic Koala 9.10 running up-to-date Hugin 2009.4.0.4742.
Installation was extremely easy once I found the Ubuntu repository of Jacob
Zimmermann:
https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/ppa

My goal is to later assemble 2 cameras and 2 lenses to a single-shot-rig.
Like Michel Thoby tried using Nikon CoolPix P5100 12 MP cameras in April
2008.
He considered it a failure due to unsolvable synchronization issues due to
the mechanic shutter release:
http://michel.thoby.free.fr/DuoPix/DuoPix_solution.html

Electronic shutter release by SDM custom firmware should be able to do very
good synchronization with the Canon cameras to overcome this problem.

The initial setup is extremely makeshift, because the tube adapter to fix
the lens to the camera is still on its way from Canada.
I just won a second FC-E8 lens at ebay, which will arrive most probably in
January 2010.

For the final rig I am thinking about the Canon A650 sporting 14.7 MP.

Anyway I installed SDM on the A570 and did 3 motives with 2 shots each
outdoor.
Image quality will improve once I got the tubes.

Here is a good example of the quality achievable:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dave_mitchell/sets/72157604041610292/with/231029196\
6/

Please find my .jpg and CHDK-RAW .crw files here:
http://diystreetview.org/data/makeshift/

Makeshift setup:
http://diystreetview.org/data/makeshift/makeshift.jpg

Same data:
Focal Length:
Camera:  5.8-23.2 (Pictures taken at 5.8mm)
Lens: 0.21

Sensor size:
1/2.5 " (5.75 x 4.31 mm)

jpeg:
Width: 3072 pixels
Height: 2304 pixels
Camera Brand: Canon
Camera Model: Canon PowerShot A570 IS
Exposure Time: 1/80 sec.
Aperture Value: 4.00 EV (f/4.0)
ISO Speed Rating: 80
Flash Fired: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode.
Metering Mode: Pattern
Focal Length: 5.8 mm


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Old old old baby, as good as a Peleng... well... maybe peleng is better.

2009/12/24 Thomas Krüger <th.krueger@...>:
>
> It has probably inbuild filters:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sangik/3052772274/sizes/l/in/pool-823759@N22/
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
http://n4.nabble.com/What-is-a-Sigma-8mm-Filtermatic-fisheye-tp978251p978338.htm\
l
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>



--
Luca Vascon.

www.canalview.it
www.officinepanottiche.com

As a retired programmer I don't make a coding or programing in purpose so I use
the easy way: Pano2VR (look at h ttp://gardengnomesoftware.com ). I used java 10
years ago...here is an old example with xml
coding: http://www.burger.si/Jame/KriznaJama/KriznaJamaENG.html .Today a good
pick is a Krpano which is not limited to 2880 cube pix resolution.
You can find some caving VR tours here
( http://www.burger.si/SLOCaves_eng.html ), but consider that the quality is
related to different time periods. (1999-2009)
Quite old (2003-2004) 'tunnel' tour is the coal mining museum which 'I did'
several hundred meters below the
surface: http://www.burger.si/MuzejiInGalerije/MuzejPremogovnistva/seznam.html .\
.. here I used a flash with the dispersion white adapter but as this method is
good only for small room I prefere l'light painting' - at the moment I use
LightLenser X21 flashlight - nice tool, especiall as it is realy light comparing
the old heavy accus and it last at least 20 hours of effective work. Here are
some results with
it: http://www.burger.si/DOGODKI/2009_LedLenserX21/seznam_eng.html.There are not
really many 'tunnel' VR tours on the internet...you can find some show caves or
some single VRs inside the caves but not with more complex VR tours.
:) Bostjan

--- On Thu, 12/24/09, matt_nolan_uaf <web@...> wrote:

From: matt_nolan_uaf <web@...>
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: new permafrost tunnel panos
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 9:48 AM
















 









       That is a really inspiring tour!  Except that I wish my tunnel was so
colorful too!



Could you tell me more about the light painting technique you used?  Was it with
a flash unit or a regular light (always on)?  How did you balance the light so
evenly?



How about the tour software -- could you tell me what you used to create it?  I
really know very little about such software and havent looked into it at all
yet.



Do you know of other 'tunnel tours' like yours that you could share?



Thanks!

Matt
























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

That is a really inspiring tour!  Except that I wish my tunnel was so colorful
too!

Could you tell me more about the light painting technique you used?  Was it with
a flash unit or a regular light (always on)?  How did you balance the light so
evenly?

How about the tour software -- could you tell me what you used to create it?  I
really know very little about such software and havent looked into it at all
yet.

Do you know of other 'tunnel tours' like yours that you could share?

Thanks!
Matt

It has probably inbuild filters:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sangik/3052772274/sizes/l/in/pool-823759@N22/


--
View this message in context:
http://n4.nabble.com/What-is-a-Sigma-8mm-Filtermatic-fisheye-tp978251p978338.htm\
l
Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

It is the hard way but you control the light situation. Here is an example of
light painting inside a quite huge cavern
: http://www.burger.si/Jame/NovaKriznaJama/35.html ... after ~ 10 hours of
climbing inside (and then the same way back ;) ).You can see the the light track
on the cave wall in a far distance.

:) Bostjan

--- On Thu, 12/24/09, matt_nolan_uaf <web@...> wrote:

From: matt_nolan_uaf <web@...>
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: new permafrost tunnel panos
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 12:46 AM
















 









       Interesting idea.  I can see how that might make for some creative
imagery.  I was thinking of buying some of these cheap million candlepower
flashlights simply for extra illumination over features, but they could just as
easily be used in a bulb mode.  It's pretty dark in there with the light off
though!  So would have to balance light painting with not tripping over
things...



One outreach application I can see for something like this is perhaps when
trying to feature bones or ice wedges within the panorama, such as to make these
'glow' a bit by being brighter than the background.  Perhaps it can be done in
post-processing by exposure fusing the overall panorama a bit dark then using
photoshop to paint in the brighter scene over those features, such that your eye
would be drawn to them when panning around.



Thanks,

Matt



--- In PanoToolsNG@ yahoogroups. com, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@. ..> wrote:

>

> Great tour! What about to make the visualization with your own light (like
light painting) and switch off the installed one?

> :) Bostjan























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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Roger Howard <rogerhoward@...>
wrote:
> and I was *just* about to ask about the Sigma 15

great lens. I am thankful to the man in red with the white bart for it
http://panospace.wordpress.com/2009/12/24/nodal-ninja-calibration-tutori\
al/

Rob, you can rset PTgui to its default settings  at menu > File > Reset
Default Project Settings

cheers

Eduardo

* Uri Cogan wrote, On 23/12/2009 11:15 PM:
>
>
>  On 12/23/09 6:25 PM, RobLee wrote:
>
> > `I'm playing with PTGui and screwed up all the settings. Now I
> > cannot generate panos properly. Is there a settings file that I can
> >  delete and start over, as when I first installed it? What's the
> > name of the file?
>
>  [...]
>
>  If you know a little about computers, why not un-install PTGui
>  completely and then reinstall a fresh copy?

Never move files from a program folder to the Recycle Bin. It has never, ever
been that way in any version of Windows. Only Macs can you get away with that.
Always and I mean Always uninstall from the Add/Remove (XP and earlier) or
Personal Settings (Vita and 7) under "Control Panel".That is the only way to do
it and it also undates setting in the Regsitry which it will never do if you
moved to recycle bin.

Peter Banks
New Zealand

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Uri Cogan <uri@...> wrote:
>
> On 12/23/09 6:25 PM, RobLee wrote:
>
>
> > `I'm playing with PTGui and screwed up all the settings. Now I cannot
> > generate panos properly. Is there a settings file that I can delete
> > and start over, as when I first installed it? What's the name of the file?
> >
>
> It would be impossible to answer your question without  knowing what
> type of computer and what operating system are you using.
>
> But:
>
> If you know a little about computers, why not un-install PTGui
> completely and then reinstall a fresh copy?
>
> Windoze: just moving files to the trash leaves a lot of stuff behind and
> does NOT un-install everything. Use the Control Panel to un-install, and
> then clean up the Registry.
>
> Mac: use one of the common un-installers like  CleanApp or Zapper.
>
> Or (if you know what you are doing...)
>
> In the Mac, go to /user/Library/Application Support/PTGui and delete
> 'Configuration.xml'
> also go to /user/Library/Preferences and delete 'PTGui Preferences'
>
> Re-start PTGui, you will have to re-enter your registration data.
>
> --
>
>              Uri Cogan
>         http://www.uricogan.com
>
> ***   My Karma Ran Over My Dogma   ***
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

:-)
Tks

cheers
AYRTON



On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Trausti Hraunfjord <
trausti.hraunfjord@...> wrote:

> http://thepanoramaplayer.com
> http://thepanoplayer.com
> http://panoplayer.com
>
> Further info will be released later on, including online examples for
> people
> to test. This will first be included in Flashificator for tiled gigapixel
> pano projects...since that is where my initial plan for it was born.
>
> I am not going to promise any release date or estimated dates or ...
> anything of the sort.  I know what I want in it, and what comes will
> impress.  What has already been done, is beyond anything we know from Flash
> pano players.
>
> And the name... yes, you guessed it already... it is *The Panorama
> Player*or in short:
> *The Pano Player*
>
> Please bear over with me for not going into more details, but this is real
> enough.
>
> Trausti
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:45 PM, AYRTON <avi@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Trausti,
> > NAME
> > VERSION
> > WHEN
> > WHAT
> > WHERE
> > PLEASE
> > :-)
> > AYRTON
> >
> > For my Christmas Sake !!!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Trausti Hraunfjord <
> > trausti.hraunfjord@... <trausti.hraunfjord%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Just dropping my christmas bombshell... now that it's 2 years to the
> day,
> > > since the first free version release of Flashificator:
> > >
> > > *The Panorama Player* (100% flash) that I have been playing with in the
> > > past
> > > few days, is as smooth as SPi-V / DevalVR, and uses 0-2% of the CPU
> when
> > > panning/tilting/autorotating. Has been tested on Mac's and PC's. Feels
> > > and
> > > behaves perfectly since all the action is in the GPU.
> > >
> > > So for clarity's sake; you can safely add that **the way Flash panorama
> > > players have been viewed and thought of until now, is going to change.
> > >
> > > Trausti
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM, LoveFilm <lovefilm@...
> <lovefilm%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As much as I love QuickTime for VR's - I have to admit it is time to
> > move
> > > > on and start providing other playback options.
> > > >
> > > > So I am planning on offering the following viewer technologies and
> > would
> > > > like to hear feedback on my player descriptions. Is there anything
> > > incorrect
> > > > here, or do you feel there is any essential additional info that
> should
> > > be
> > > > included?
> > > >
> > > > Flash - Adobe's ubiquitous plug-in which is most likely already
> > installed
> > > > on your machine. Flash panorama players are cross platform,
> accessible,
> > > and
> > > > capable of good quality. Larger resolution images, however, can place
> > > > considerable strain on the player's performance.
> > > >
> > > > QuickTime - Apple's versatile multimedia player is also cross
> platform
> > > and
> > > > offers exceptional image quality and stability. Unfortunately,
> Apple's
> > > > support of VR playback in Quicktime diminishes with each new
> iteration
> > of
> > > > the player. NOTE: QuickTime VR may not work at all if you are on a
> > > Windows
> > > > 64 bit machine.
> > > >
> > > > PangeaVR- Mac only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a Mac.
> > > Utilizes
> > > > hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.
> > > >
> > > > DevalVR - PC only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a PC.
> > Utilizes
> > > > hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.
> > > >
> > > > SPi-V - A shockwave based cross platform panorama player that also
> > offers
> > > > smooth motion but generally requires smaller resolution images.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
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> > | A Y R |
> > | T O N |
> > ------------
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> > http://ayrton360.com
> > follow-me : twitter.com/ayrton360
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>


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http://thepanoramaplayer.com
http://thepanoplayer.com
http://panoplayer.com

Further info will be released later on, including online examples for people
to test. This will first be included in Flashificator for tiled gigapixel
pano projects...since that is where my initial plan for it was born.

I am not going to promise any release date or estimated dates or ...
anything of the sort.  I know what I want in it, and what comes will
impress.  What has already been done, is beyond anything we know from Flash
pano players.

And the name... yes, you guessed it already... it is *The Panorama
Player*or in short:
*The Pano Player*

Please bear over with me for not going into more details, but this is real
enough.

Trausti



On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:45 PM, AYRTON <avi@...> wrote:

>
>
> Trausti,
> NAME
> VERSION
> WHEN
> WHAT
> WHERE
> PLEASE
> :-)
> AYRTON
>
> For my Christmas Sake !!!
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Trausti Hraunfjord <
> trausti.hraunfjord@... <trausti.hraunfjord%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Just dropping my christmas bombshell... now that it's 2 years to the day,
> > since the first free version release of Flashificator:
> >
> > *The Panorama Player* (100% flash) that I have been playing with in the
> > past
> > few days, is as smooth as SPi-V / DevalVR, and uses 0-2% of the CPU when
> > panning/tilting/autorotating. Has been tested on Mac's and PC's. Feels
> > and
> > behaves perfectly since all the action is in the GPU.
> >
> > So for clarity's sake; you can safely add that **the way Flash panorama
> > players have been viewed and thought of until now, is going to change.
> >
> > Trausti
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM, LoveFilm
<lovefilm@...<lovefilm%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > As much as I love QuickTime for VR's - I have to admit it is time to
> move
> > > on and start providing other playback options.
> > >
> > > So I am planning on offering the following viewer technologies and
> would
> > > like to hear feedback on my player descriptions. Is there anything
> > incorrect
> > > here, or do you feel there is any essential additional info that should
> > be
> > > included?
> > >
> > > Flash - Adobe's ubiquitous plug-in which is most likely already
> installed
> > > on your machine. Flash panorama players are cross platform, accessible,
> > and
> > > capable of good quality. Larger resolution images, however, can place
> > > considerable strain on the player's performance.
> > >
> > > QuickTime - Apple's versatile multimedia player is also cross platform
> > and
> > > offers exceptional image quality and stability. Unfortunately, Apple's
> > > support of VR playback in Quicktime diminishes with each new iteration
> of
> > > the player. NOTE: QuickTime VR may not work at all if you are on a
> > Windows
> > > 64 bit machine.
> > >
> > > PangeaVR- Mac only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a Mac.
> > Utilizes
> > > hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.
> > >
> > > DevalVR - PC only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a PC.
> Utilizes
> > > hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.
> > >
> > > SPi-V - A shockwave based cross platform panorama player that also
> offers
> > > smooth motion but generally requires smaller resolution images.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> ------------
> | A Y R |
> | T O N |
> ------------
> + 55 21 9982 6313
> http://ayrton360.com
> follow-me : twitter.com/ayrton360
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Trausti,
NAME
VERSION
WHEN
WHAT
WHERE
PLEASE
:-)
AYRTON

For my Christmas Sake !!!



On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Trausti Hraunfjord <
trausti.hraunfjord@...> wrote:

> Just dropping my christmas bombshell... now that it's 2 years to the day,
> since the first free version release of Flashificator:
>
> *The Panorama Player* (100% flash) that I have been playing with in the
> past
> few days, is as smooth as SPi-V / DevalVR, and uses 0-2% of the CPU when
> panning/tilting/autorotating.  Has been tested on Mac's and PC's.  Feels
> and
> behaves perfectly since all the action is in the GPU.
>
> So for clarity's sake; you can safely add that **the way Flash panorama
> players have been viewed and thought of until now, is going to change.
>
> Trausti
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM, LoveFilm <lovefilm@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > As much as I love QuickTime for VR's - I have to admit it is time to move
> > on and start providing other playback options.
> >
> > So I am planning on offering the following viewer technologies and would
> > like to hear feedback on my player descriptions. Is there anything
> incorrect
> > here, or do you feel there is any essential additional info that should
> be
> > included?
> >
> > Flash - Adobe's ubiquitous plug-in which is most likely already installed
> > on your machine. Flash panorama players are cross platform, accessible,
> and
> > capable of good quality. Larger resolution images, however, can place
> > considerable strain on the player's performance.
> >
> > QuickTime - Apple's versatile multimedia player is also cross platform
> and
> > offers exceptional image quality and stability. Unfortunately, Apple's
> > support of VR playback in Quicktime diminishes with each new iteration of
> > the player. NOTE: QuickTime VR may not work at all if you are on a
> Windows
> > 64 bit machine.
> >
> > PangeaVR- Mac only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a Mac.
> Utilizes
> > hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.
> >
> > DevalVR - PC only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a PC. Utilizes
> > hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.
> >
> > SPi-V - A shockwave based cross platform panorama player that also offers
> > smooth motion but generally requires smaller resolution images.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


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| T O N |
------------
+ 55 21 9982 6313
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Just dropping my christmas bombshell... now that it's 2 years to the day,
since the first free version release of Flashificator:

*The Panorama Player* (100% flash) that I have been playing with in the past
few days, is as smooth as SPi-V / DevalVR, and uses 0-2% of the CPU when
panning/tilting/autorotating.  Has been tested on Mac's and PC's.  Feels and
behaves perfectly since all the action is in the GPU.

So for clarity's sake; you can safely add that **the way Flash panorama
players have been viewed and thought of until now, is going to change.

Trausti



On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM, LoveFilm <lovefilm@...> wrote:

>
>
> As much as I love QuickTime for VR's - I have to admit it is time to move
> on and start providing other playback options.
>
> So I am planning on offering the following viewer technologies and would
> like to hear feedback on my player descriptions. Is there anything incorrect
> here, or do you feel there is any essential additional info that should be
> included?
>
> Flash - Adobe's ubiquitous plug-in which is most likely already installed
> on your machine. Flash panorama players are cross platform, accessible, and
> capable of good quality. Larger resolution images, however, can place
> considerable strain on the player's performance.
>
> QuickTime - Apple's versatile multimedia player is also cross platform and
> offers exceptional image quality and stability. Unfortunately, Apple's
> support of VR playback in Quicktime diminishes with each new iteration of
> the player. NOTE: QuickTime VR may not work at all if you are on a Windows
> 64 bit machine.
>
> PangeaVR- Mac only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a Mac. Utilizes
> hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.
>
> DevalVR - PC only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a PC. Utilizes
> hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.
>
> SPi-V - A shockwave based cross platform panorama player that also offers
> smooth motion but generally requires smaller resolution images.
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 12/23/09 6:25 PM, RobLee wrote:


> `I'm playing with PTGui and screwed up all the settings. Now I cannot
> generate panos properly. Is there a settings file that I can delete
> and start over, as when I first installed it? What's the name of the file?
>

It would be impossible to answer your question without  knowing what
type of computer and what operating system are you using.

But:

If you know a little about computers, why not un-install PTGui
completely and then reinstall a fresh copy?

Windoze: just moving files to the trash leaves a lot of stuff behind and
does NOT un-install everything. Use the Control Panel to un-install, and
then clean up the Registry.

Mac: use one of the common un-installers like  CleanApp or Zapper.

Or (if you know what you are doing...)

In the Mac, go to /user/Library/Application Support/PTGui and delete
'Configuration.xml'
also go to /user/Library/Preferences and delete 'PTGui Preferences'

Re-start PTGui, you will have to re-enter your registration data.

--

              Uri Cogan
         http://www.uricogan.com

***   My Karma Ran Over My Dogma   ***



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

As much as I love QuickTime for VR's - I have to admit it is time to move on and
start providing other playback options.

So I am planning on offering the following viewer technologies and would like to
hear feedback on my player descriptions.  Is there anything incorrect here, or
do you feel there is any essential additional info that should be included?


Flash -  Adobe's ubiquitous plug-in which is most likely already installed on
your machine.  Flash panorama players are cross platform, accessible, and
capable of good quality.  Larger resolution images, however, can place
considerable strain on the player's performance.

QuickTime - Apple's versatile multimedia player is also cross platform and
offers exceptional image quality and stability.  Unfortunately, Apple's support
of VR playback in Quicktime diminishes with each new iteration of the player. 
NOTE:  QuickTime VR may not work at all if you are on a Windows 64 bit machine.

PangeaVR- Mac only:  The best choice for viewing VR tours on a Mac.  Utilizes
hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.

DevalVR - PC only: The best choice for viewing VR tours on a PC.  Utilizes
hardware acceleration for smooth, distortion free playback.

SPi-V - A shockwave based cross platform panorama player that also offers smooth
motion but generally requires smaller resolution images.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:26:04 +0900, Roger D. Williams
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> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:11:04 +0900, Henri Smeets <henri@...> wrote:
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>> The program I use nowadays to make panos on my iPhone is AutoStitch. It
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>> stitch any amount of photo's from you library, it automatically alignes
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>> again, just shoot a bunch of images and then launch AutoStitch.

I purchased AutoStitch (only 230 yen!) and noticed the long string of
Japanese five-star ratings it had attracted. That was encouraging. And
now I know how well it works. Astonishing!

It is much better for both enabling me to get wider-angle views using
my iPhone 3G camera and encouraging my friend to dabble in panoramas.

Thanks again, Henri,

Roger W.

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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:11:04 +0900, Henri Smeets <henri@...> wrote:

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> I've had this app for about a year now! Looked promising at the
> beginning,
> even had contact with the maker who said he was also creating a 360
> output
> to view on the iPhone itself,...... never happened though.

Too bad...

> The program I use nowadays to make panos on my iPhone is AutoStitch. It
> can
> stitch any amount of photo's from you library, it automatically alignes
> them
> and you don't have to swithch from picturetaking to aligning over and
> over
> again, just shoot a bunch of images and then launch AutoStitch.

Thank you for this. I'll try it. As I think I made pretty clear, I do
not recommend this approach to panorama making!! But I have a photographer
friend who admires my panoramas but hesitates to start down the track
to making them himself. He is the guy who persuaded me to get an iPhone,
so I'd like to use the iPhone to stimulate his interest in panoramas.
There would be a nice symmetry in that!

> Still compared to PTGui it's surely no match but fun nonetheless.

I'm hooked on fun! (And of course PTgui provides more than its share
of THAT!)

> PanoLab Pro
> http://n4.nabble.com/file/n978052/IMG_0082.jpg
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> AutoStitch
> http://n4.nabble.com/file/n978052/IMG_0391.jpg


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`I'm playing with PTGui and screwed up all the settings. Now I cannot generate
panos properly. Is there a settings file that I can delete and start over, as
when I first installed it? What's the name of the file?
Thank you!
BTW happy holidays everybody!

RobLee




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There's one on ebay for Pentax.  What is it?  The listing says
8mm F4 but it looks different from the other Sigma 8mm F4 fisheyes
so it made me curious about it.

Interesting idea.  I can see how that might make for some creative imagery.  I
was thinking of buying some of these cheap million candlepower flashlights
simply for extra illumination over features, but they could just as easily be
used in a bulb mode.  It's pretty dark in there with the light off though!  So
would have to balance light painting with not tripping over things...

One outreach application I can see for something like this is perhaps when
trying to feature bones or ice wedges within the panorama, such as to make these
'glow' a bit by being brighter than the background.  Perhaps it can be done in
post-processing by exposure fusing the overall panorama a bit dark then using
photoshop to paint in the brighter scene over those features, such that your eye
would be drawn to them when panning around.

Thanks,
Matt

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Not sure what you actually are talking about.

But just go away and send him some panoramas.
Dan Chung is quite familiar with VR
http://www.guardian.co.uk/panoramic/page/0,,1887480,00.html

Hans

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Ok, yes it does work.  I think I tried in in fullscreen mode.

Can I hope for the mousewheel to zoom or would that be too complicated?
I get the idea of keeping it small -- that's a very good reason to like it.

So here's my wish list --
Zooming with mousewheel and fullscreen mode.
Some way to load another pano using JavaScript.

And thank you....

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>> One thing -- can you add zooming?  Usually Ctnl/Shift or MouseWheel
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other 4(whatever) to make the 360

that would be my approach
and post results here.

regards

mick

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> One thing -- can you add zooming?  Usually Ctnl/Shift or MouseWheel
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Ctrl/Shift should work, but unfortunately not in fullscreen mode.

Btw, how to find out if a .mov file is a video or a panorama?
I'd like to write a Firefox Plugin, that runs on .mov panoramas only.
Jan


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Jan


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One thing -- can you add zooming?  Usually Ctnl/Shift or MouseWheel is
good.

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new for me, some screw-ups are to be expected ;-)
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the code repository):
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