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#12467 From: "Bernhard Vogl" <bvogl@...>
Date: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:49 am
Subject: Re: HD View for FireFox
bernharv2000
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> The tone adjust has the opposite effect on the very distant
> town on the Ebensee. It actually has more contrast with NO adjust.

My first though was that you are completely wrong :-)
But i have found a computer that shows your described effect. Really weird - the
only thing i can imagine is, that it is dependend on the graphics card. This
should be submitted as a bug report to the development team.

> It is asif HD View overcompensates like it does with a bright sky and
> then the effect looks solarized.

Same as above. Seemengly needs some fine tuning...

> The remaining mystery is how the HD View team shoots the pre-stitched
> images
> on auto exposure. Still not clear at what moment in the workflow these
> images get normalized.

At the moment, you can coose between 2 software packages that are able to
"normalize" auto exposed images: Hugin and Autopano Pro - both in their latest
beta/alpha versions.

Best regards
Bernhard



#12446 From: "Robert C. Fisher" <bob@...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: HD View for FireFox JPEG XR
kingbobsky
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OK I'm on a Mac OS 10.4.8 I just downloaded the HDView plugin for
Firefox, there is no apparent way to install this how do I do it?

Dumb question I know.

On Aug 25, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Carel wrote:

>
> HD View also mentions it handles HDR, supposedly though HD Photo.
> At the
> IVRPA conference in Berkeley the ms HD View team was demonstrating
> "the
> making off" a gigapixel image. They mentioned that all pre-stitched
> images
> were shot using automatic exposure (so they all had wildly differing
> exposure levels). The light level is dynamically adjusted when one
> zooms in.
> I did not get the details on the workflow for making these images.
> I wonder
> if HD View does tonal adjustments on the fly or if there is some
> pre-processing necessary.
> When you zoom in on the darker parts of the image at
> http://www.xrez.com/hdview/index.html you can see some brightening. It
> falls apart when you zoom in on parts of the sky though.
>
> Carel
>
Cheers
Robert C. Fisher
VR Photography/Cinematography





#12424 From: Carel <cs@...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:57 am
Subject: Re: HD View for FireFox
carelstruycken
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Bernhard Vogl-2 wrote:
>
> In respects of displaying HDR images, the Microsoft .wdp indeed looks
> interesting - but to use it with HDView's "Auto Tone Adjust" you need to
> be a little patient: Current beta of HDView only supports LDR images. To
> my knowledge, HDR will be adressed in one of the future beta versions...
> I've summarized some information about it here:
>
http://thepanoramablog.blogspot.com/2007/08/microsoft-hdview-and-dynamic-range.h\
tml

>
> Best regards
> Bernhard
>
>

The "auto tone adjust" works very nicely, except when one points at a bright
sky. I see you put the Gigabot to work. The Klausenpasse with "High Tone
Adjust" looks great! The tone adjust has the opposite effect on the very
distant town on the Ebensee. It actually has more contrast with NO adjust.
It is asif HD View overcompensates like it does with a bright sky and then
the effect looks solarized.

The remaining mystery is how the HD View team shoots the pre-stitched images
on auto exposure. Still not clear at what moment in the workflow these
images get normalized.

Carel

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#12419 From: Bernhard Vogl <bvogl@...>
Date: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:56 am
Subject: Re: HD View for FireFox
bernharv2000
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> Does this mean that microsoft's HD, also refered to as "JPEG XR" is going to
> be the new format? It sure looks better than anything else I have seen at
> these compression ratios.
>
In respects of displaying HDR images, the Microsoft .wdp indeed looks
interesting - but to use it with HDView's "Auto Tone Adjust" you need to
be a little patient: Current beta of HDView only supports LDR images. To
my knowledge, HDR will be adressed in one of the future beta versions...
I've summarized some information about it here:
http://thepanoramablog.blogspot.com/2007/08/microsoft-hdview-and-dynamic-range.h\
tml


Best regards
Bernhard




#12410 From: Carel <cs@...>
Date: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:32 pm
Subject: Re: HD View for FireFox JPEG XR
carelstruycken
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HD View also mentions it handles HDR, supposedly though HD Photo. At the
IVRPA conference in Berkeley the ms HD View team was demonstrating "the
making off" a gigapixel image. They mentioned that all pre-stitched images
were shot using automatic exposure (so they all had wildly differing
exposure levels). The light level is dynamically adjusted when one zooms in.
I did not get the details on the workflow for making these images. I wonder
if HD View does tonal adjustments on the fly or if there is some
pre-processing necessary.
When you zoom in on the darker parts of the image at
http://www.xrez.com/hdview/index.html you can see some brightening. It
falls apart when you zoom in on parts of the sky though.

Carel
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#12409 From: "Dave 360texas.com" <texas360dave@...>
Date: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:55 pm
Subject: Re: HD View for FireFox JPEG XR
texas360dave
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As I understand it.. about Last March 2007

Microsoft has or will present this JPEG-XR to the JPEG Standards
Group as a replacement for jpeg file format. I also understand that
the current version of VISTA already is setup for JPEG-XR file
format and that the major camera companies are embracing this new
file format type replacement.

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Carel <cs@...> wrote:
>
>
> Microsoft's HD View is now available for FireFox I just
discovered. Maybe
> this is old news...
> I also found this:
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=10491
> Does this mean that microsoft's HD, also refered to as "JPEG XR"
is going to
> be the new format? It sure looks better than anything else I have
seen at
> these compression ratios.
>
> Carel Struycken
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/HD-View-for-
FireFox-tf4328445.html#a12327573
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>





#12408 From: Carel <cs@...>
Date: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:42 pm
Subject: HD View for FireFox
carelstruycken
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Microsoft's HD View is now available for FireFox I just discovered. Maybe
this is old news...
I also found this:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=10491
Does this mean that microsoft's HD, also refered to as "JPEG XR" is going to
be the new format? It sure looks better than anything else I have seen at
these compression ratios.

Carel Struycken
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http://www.nabble.com/HD-View-for-FireFox-tf4328445.html#a12327573
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#12407 From: Carel <cs@...>
Date: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:30 pm
Subject: HD View for FireFox
carelstruycken
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Microsoft's HD View is now available for FireFox I just discovered. Maybe
this is old news...

Carel Struycken
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