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#17343 From: Keith Martin <keith@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Nadir shot?
the1keith
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Sometime around 31/1/08 (at 11:08 +0000) brenlikescheese said:

>I use Cubic Converter & Connector to create the tours. Can you suggest
>any other software for the mac that will do the same jobs better?

For QuickTime VR panorama production from existing stitched
equirectangular or cube face images, this seems to be the best option
around. But I will look with interest to see what other people
suggest.



>Setting the QT motion quality to 'High', is that something I would
>have to do in QuickTime Pro?

That's a setting in CubicConverter. In the Movie tab, open the
Panning Quality disclosure triangle (aka the flippy arrow thing) and
make sure both Motion and Static are set to High. The 'Normal'
setting may have been important back in the 1990s, but not any more!
Well, it might possibly help reduce jumpy panning with large movies,
but the tradeoff isn't something I'd like to make.



>Nice tour of the Glade by the way. I was gonna go this year but heard
>it was getting washed out so went to Holmbush instead (little local
>festival).

You probably wouldn't have been able to get a ticket to Glade by the
time the weather was known anyway - it sells out long before the
event. But you did manage to avoid an incredible amount of rain and
mud! I have a few VRs from that one here:
http://www.thehelpful.com/glade07/

k

#17344 From: Matthew Rogers <matthew@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: ANN: XFuse - A Mac OS X front end to Enfuse
threesixtypr...
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Hi Kevin,

	 Damn those Indians can program much faster than I can :)

Matt

On 31 Jan 2008, at 15:20, anodyssey wrote:

> I posted a new Mac OS X application called XFuse in the user folder
> at Kekus.com.
>
> http://www.kekus.com/for_reg_users/
>
> XFuse is a front-end for Enfuse and allows for batch processing and
> the easy setting of many
> common enfuse options via easy controls. Advanced options can be
> specified in an
> 'advanced' box.
>
> This is a beta so there will likely still be some bugs.
>
> Kevin
>
> P.S. The download does not include the enfuse application.
>

#17345 From: "Peter Braatz" <yahoo@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: Sony announce 25Mp 35mm sensor
macbenutzer
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "AYRTON - avi" <avi@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200801/08-010E/index.htm
> A  Y  R  T  O  N
>

Hi Ayrton - just to be correct;

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200801/08-010E/index.html

It is html not htm :-)

Peter/360pixel.de

#17346 From: "Robert C. Fisher" <bob@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: ANN: XFuse - A Mac OS X front end to Enfuse
kingbobsky
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Thanks Kevin and Matt, this is so much better than using Xblend with
the enfuse binaries, more controllable. I am continually amazed at
how well enfuse works!

Thanks again Kevin, I will send a donation when I have the funds.

On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Matthew Rogers wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Damn those Indians can program much faster than I can :)
>
> Matt
>
> On 31 Jan 2008, at 15:20, anodyssey wrote:
>
> > I posted a new Mac OS X application called XFuse in the user folder
> > at Kekus.com.
> >
> > http://www.kekus.com/for_reg_users/
> >
> > XFuse is a front-end for Enfuse and allows for batch processing and
> > the easy setting of many
> > common enfuse options via easy controls. Advanced options can be
> > specified in an
> > 'advanced' box.
> >
> > This is a beta so there will likely still be some bugs.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > P.S. The download does not include the enfuse application.
> >
>

Cheers
Robert C. Fisher
VR Photography/Cinematography

#17347 From: Carel <cs@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: Sony announce 25Mp 35mm sensor
carelstruycken
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AYRTON - avi wrote:
>
> http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200801/08-010E/index.htm
>
> ooowwoowwww !
>
> A  Y  R  T  O  N
>
> www.rio360.com.br
>
>


One could use all these pixels in combination with DCRaw in the Super-pixel
mode to circumvent the Bayer matrix induced artifacts. The main disadvantage
of the super-pixel method is that you end up with an image that is only
1/4th size of the original, so with this sensor you would end up with a
6Mpixel image, but more detailed image.
http://deepskystacker.free.fr/english/technical.htm#rawdecod

Carel
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#17348 From: "Andrew G" <conanthedestroya222@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: Another Pole Shot
conanthedest...
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Roger,

You've gone an got me interested in pole panoramas now. Just as my
wife thought I was content with my camera gear ;-)

K-Tek poles are out of my price range but the Gitzo G1568 Series 2
Carbon Fiber 4-Section Monopod you mentioned looks interesting and on
the go at $230. I guess I need an all rounder. Height of 63 inches
seems ok for the high up shots and after lugging all my camera gear
around New York City for 3 days, the thought of using a pole instead
of a tripod & NN3, it sounds like a lot less weight. Not to mention
getting over keen security off my back. First two words they are
taught during training must be "No tripods".

I have the D80 & 10.5mm (not shaved). Could mean problems with the up
and down views?

Look forward to your advice,

Andrew




--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Berry" <onezebra1@...>
wrote:
>
> Yes my Nikkor 10.5mm lens is shaved.
>
> A few reasons why the K-Tek poles are more expensive are, its
carbon
> fiber and they are the only ones that make a style like this. It's
> very strong, light, and fast to setup.
> Take a look at prices on some of the nice carbon fiber tripods and
> monopods like this one.
> Gitzo G1568 Series 2 Carbon Fiber 4-Section Monopod: $237.00
>
> Some people lug around a $600 or $700 carbon fiber tripod like the
> one that I have, but I get far more use out of this pole and it's
far
> easier walking around with than a big tripod. It also make a good
> walking stick and I can even slid it under my belt to have my hands
> free and hardly notice its there.
>
> It's just a piece of equipment like a very good fisheye lens; it
all
> depends on how much use you will get out of it. After looking all
> over I just couldn't find any others poles that met my needs. At
> first I thought it was expensive, but as much as I use it and the
> things that I can do with it, I don't feel that way anymore.
>
> Roger Berry
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "verifone411" <kieranmullen@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Do you use a shaved 10.5 to allow for a larger sensor?
> >
> > Why are ktech poles so much more expensive
> > http://www.mklemme.com/pole/k102.html than
> > http://www.studio1productions.com/skypod.htm
> >
> > I currently have a 7ft Bogen monopod. Taller is always better. I
am
> > 6ft 5in tall.
> >
> > KM
>

#17349 From: Ricardo Araujo <ricardo.araujo@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Another Pole Shot
ricardo_arau...
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I own a Cavision SCPN635F carbon fiber pole and I'm very satisfied.

You can see other models at:
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=sort&A=search&Q=&sortDrop=Pri\
ce%3A+Low+to+High&bl=&atl=Brand_Cavision&pn=1&st=search&mnp=0.0&mxp=0.0&sv=pole&\
shs=pole&ac=&fi=all&pn=1&ci=8659&cmpsrch=&cltp=&clsgr=>



acessar o site <http://www.tourvirtualbrasil.com.br>


Andrew G escreveu:
>
> Roger,
>
> You've gone an got me interested in pole panoramas now. Just as my
> wife thought I was content with my camera gear ;-)
>
> K-Tek poles are out of my price range but the Gitzo G1568 Series 2
> Carbon Fiber 4-Section Monopod you mentioned looks interesting and on
> the go at $230. I guess I need an all rounder. Height of 63 inches
> seems ok for the high up shots and after lugging all my camera gear
> around New York City for 3 days, the thought of using a pole instead
> of a tripod & NN3, it sounds like a lot less weight. Not to mention
> getting over keen security off my back. First two words they are
> taught during training must be "No tripods".
>
> I have the D80 & 10.5mm (not shaved). Could mean problems with the up
> and down views?
>
> Look forward to your advice,
>
> Andrew
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "Roger Berry" <onezebra1@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes my Nikkor 10.5mm lens is shaved.
> >
> > A few reasons why the K-Tek poles are more expensive are, its
> carbon
> > fiber and they are the only ones that make a style like this. It's
> > very strong, light, and fast to setup.
> > Take a look at prices on some of the nice carbon fiber tripods and
> > monopods like this one.
> > Gitzo G1568 Series 2 Carbon Fiber 4-Section Monopod: $237.00
> >
> > Some people lug around a $600 or $700 carbon fiber tripod like the
> > one that I have, but I get far more use out of this pole and it's
> far
> > easier walking around with than a big tripod. It also make a good
> > walking stick and I can even slid it under my belt to have my hands
> > free and hardly notice its there.
> >
> > It's just a piece of equipment like a very good fisheye lens; it
> all
> > depends on how much use you will get out of it. After looking all
> > over I just couldn't find any others poles that met my needs. At
> > first I thought it was expensive, but as much as I use it and the
> > things that I can do with it, I don't feel that way anymore.
> >
> > Roger Berry
> >
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "verifone411" <kieranmullen@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you use a shaved 10.5 to allow for a larger sensor?
> > >
> > > Why are ktech poles so much more expensive
> > > http://www.mklemme.com/pole/k102.html
> <http://www.mklemme.com/pole/k102.html> than
> > > http://www.studio1productions.com/skypod.htm
> <http://www.studio1productions.com/skypod.htm>
> > >
> > > I currently have a 7ft Bogen monopod. Taller is always better. I
> am
> > > 6ft 5in tall.
> > >
> > > KM
> >
>
>
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#17350 From: Luca Vascon <crimsonkingit@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nadir shot?
crimsonkingit
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I had bad experience with Walimex products, cheap Manfrotto copies, with
all old manfrotto drawbacks and none of the plus.
:-/ Is this any good?

Freddy Stapersma ha scritto:
>
> I bought a cheap horizontal extention from walimex.
> a bit heavy but I only use this for indoor hdr shoots anyway.
> works like a charm!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ywdy4o <http://tinyurl.com/ywdy4o>
>
> bought it for 30 euros on Ebay.
>
> Regards.
> discocandy
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > brenlikescheese wrote:
> > >
> > > Are there any tricks for getting the nadir shot??
> > >
> >
> > Besides the already mentioned ones you can use a short horizontal
> pole
> > mounted to your tripod or a construction like this:
> > http://michel.thoby.free.fr/Nadir/Ninja/Ninja_Eng.html
> <http://michel.thoby.free.fr/Nadir/Ninja/Ninja_Eng.html>
> >
> > best regards
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Erik Krause
> > http://www.erik-krause.de <http://www.erik-krause.de>
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> <http://www.nabble.com/Nadir-shot-->
> tp15186025p15200696.html
> > Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
>

#17351 From: Luca Vascon <crimsonkingit@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Nadir shot?
crimsonkingit
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I've the zero nadir technique too,  with 10.5 and 8mm, with monopod and
with tripod.
Maybe it could be my Prague speech... "Unusual uses of usual fisheyes -
shoot more, stitch less -"

Jeffrey Martin ha scritto:
>
> Ok, 5 - 10x is a bit of an exaggeration....
>
> Meanwhile MIlko and Michel Thoby have the "zero nadir" technique.....
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

#17352 From: "bohonus" <bradford@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:12 pm
Subject: Re: Another Pole Shot
bohonus
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Berry" <onezebra1@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, that tourist sometimes gets in my photos like in this one below.
> http://www.indiavrtours.com/jaipur/amer_elephants4.html
>
> The problem is to remove him would not be easy with the people behind
> him, so sometimes I have to do the next best thing.

Have you tried turning around staying behind the camera's view as you turn the
pole so you
would not end up being in the shot?

#17353 From: "mhc954" <ptgroup@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:17 pm
Subject: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
mhc954
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Hello,
does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.

@12.5 should be the firts  FF- setting.

Thanks
Ciao
Mike

#17354 From: "Hans Nyberg" <hans@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
panoramicsdk
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "mhc954" <ptgroup@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>
> @12.5 should be the firts  FF- setting.

Yes 12mm corresponds to Sigma 8mm on a small sensor so you can take 4 around.
8000x4000 pixels

Hans

#17355 From: panokaemena@...
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:24 pm
Subject: D300 with ISO 2000
panokaemena
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Today I visited the fort Copacabana here in Rio de Janeiro. It is an
almost 100 years old fortification.

as now usual for me in 3 versions : QT , Flash and Deval

The cannons were made by Krupp in Germany

here some more tests of a Nikon D300 under very low light conditions
with up to 2000 ISO



D300 ISO 2000 1/15 F5.6  monopod 4 shots Nikkor8/2.8 no noise reduction

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteCanhao1
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteCanhao1/index_swf.html
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteCanhao1/index_Dv.html



D300 ISO 1600 1/15 F5.6  monopod 4 shots Nikkor8/2.8 no noise reduction
this I will remake again in PS because  the light was  much lesser
than it appears here.

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteUsina
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteUsina/index_swf.html
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteUsina/index_Dv.html


some "normal" light conditions panos  of the  Fort
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort2
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort2/index_swf.html
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort2/index_Dv.html

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort1
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort1/index_swf.html
http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort1/index_Dv.html

Willy Kaemena

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
http://bremen.360cities.net/
http://syria.360cities.net/
http://lisbon.360cities.net/

#17356 From: Luca Vascon <crimsonkingit@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
crimsonkingit
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If you keep it 60degrees twisted, you can zoom till black corners are
small and you may still shoot 4.


mhc954 ha scritto:
>
> Hello,
> does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>
> @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>
> Thanks
> Ciao
> Mike
>
>

#17357 From: Luca Vascon <crimsonkingit@...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: Re: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
crimsonkingit
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He can zoom more, I think.

Hans Nyberg ha scritto:
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "mhc954" <ptgroup@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
> >
> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>
> Yes 12mm corresponds to Sigma 8mm on a small sensor so you can take 4
> around.
> 8000x4000 pixels
>
> Hans
>
>

#17358 From: bigwade <celsius@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:08 am
Subject: Re: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
bw19h
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@ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
Equi 4670x9340



Michael Hundrieser wrote:
>
> Hello,
> does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>
> @12.5 should be the firts  FF- setting.
>
> Thanks
> Ciao
> Mike
>
>
>
>

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#17359 From: Luca Vascon <crimsonkingit@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:15 am
Subject: Re: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
crimsonkingit
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rotate the camera 60 degrees, and place the lens on an Agnos.com Ring,
on a Bob ring or homebrew thing.
Since the plombline will pass through the diagonal of the sensor, you
will be able to zoom till you have 4 tiny black angles and still be able
to shot 4 for a spherical.
Without holes on Zenit and Nadir.
:°)

bigwade ha scritto:
>
>
> @ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
> 4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
> Equi 4670x9340
>
> Michael Hundrieser wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
> >
> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ciao
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>

#17360 From: bigwade <celsius@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:32 am
Subject: Re: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
bw19h
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Stil 4 shots........
does'nt matter.
Hey Luca, should'nt you be in the darkroom right now for fine-artprints ?
:-)))))))












Luca Vascon wrote:
>
> rotate the camera 60 degrees, and place the lens on an Agnos.com Ring,
> on a Bob ring or homebrew thing.
> Since the plombline will pass through the diagonal of the sensor, you
> will be able to zoom till you have 4 tiny black angles and still be able
> to shot 4 for a spherical.
> Without holes on Zenit and Nadir.
> :°)
>
> bigwade ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> @ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
>> 4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
>> Equi 4670x9340
>>
>> Michael Hundrieser wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
>> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
>> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>> >
>> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Ciao
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
>
>
>

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#17361 From: bigwade <celsius@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:35 am
Subject: Re: ANN: XFuse - A Mac OS X front end to Enfuse
bw19h
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Kevin,
Great !
Try it tomorrow.





anodyssey wrote:
>
> I posted a new Mac OS X application called XFuse in the user folder at
> Kekus.com.
>
> http://www.kekus.com/for_reg_users/
>
> XFuse is a front-end for Enfuse and allows for batch processing and the
> easy setting of many
> common enfuse options via easy controls. Advanced options can be specified
> in an
> 'advanced' box.
>
> This is a beta so there will likely still be some bugs.
>
> Kevin
>
> P.S. The download does not include the enfuse application.
>
>
>

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#17362 From: Luca Vascon <crimsonkingit@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:37 am
Subject: Re: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
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I was all the day... for developing.
I scan, right now...


bigwade ha scritto:
>
>
> Stil 4 shots........
> does'nt matter.
> Hey Luca, should'nt you be in the darkroom right now for fine-artprints ?
> :-)))))))
>
> Luca Vascon wrote:
> >
> > rotate the camera 60 degrees, and place the lens on an Agnos.com Ring,
> > on a Bob ring or homebrew thing.
> > Since the plombline will pass through the diagonal of the sensor, you
> > will be able to zoom till you have 4 tiny black angles and still be
> able
> > to shot 4 for a spherical.
> > Without holes on Zenit and Nadir.
> > :°)
> >
> > bigwade ha scritto:
> >>
> >>
> >> @ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
> >> 4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
> >> Equi 4670x9340
> >>
> >> Michael Hundrieser wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> >> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> >> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
> >> >
> >> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Ciao
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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#17363 From: "Roger D. Williams" <roger@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:51 am
Subject: Re: Re: Sony announce 25Mp 35mm sensor
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:51:21 +0900, Peter Braatz <yahoo@...> wrote:

> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "AYRTON - avi" <avi@...> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200801/08-010E/index.htm
>> A  Y  R  T  O  N
>>
>
> Hi Ayrton - just to be correct;
>
> http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200801/08-010E/index.html
>
> It is html not htm :-)

Thanks, Peter. So THAT's why I got a "not found" when I tried to
see what Ayrton's message was about... (Thanks, Ayrton!)

Looks like a great sensor for high-end DSLRs. But the cost/performance
ratio of a 1.5x factor DSLR with a circular fisheye like the new Sigma
4.5mm will probably win out for most of us. Similar numbers of pixels
and greater depth of focus in the latter case...

Roger W.

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#17364 From: bigwade <celsius@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:54 am
Subject: Re: 5D / Tokina 10.5 @ 12.5
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brown fingers........
left that in 1997:-))




Luca Vascon wrote:
>
> I was all the day... for developing.
> I scan, right now...
>
>
> bigwade ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> Stil 4 shots........
>> does'nt matter.
>> Hey Luca, should'nt you be in the darkroom right now for fine-artprints ?
>> :-)))))))
>>
>> Luca Vascon wrote:
>> >
>> > rotate the camera 60 degrees, and place the lens on an Agnos.com Ring,
>> > on a Bob ring or homebrew thing.
>> > Since the plombline will pass through the diagonal of the sensor, you
>> > will be able to zoom till you have 4 tiny black angles and still be
>> able
>> > to shot 4 for a spherical.
>> > Without holes on Zenit and Nadir.
>> > :°)
>> >
>> > bigwade ha scritto:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> @ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
>> >> 4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
>> >> Equi 4670x9340
>> >>
>> >> Michael Hundrieser wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon
>> 5d
>> >> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
>> >> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>> >> >
>> >> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Ciao
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> View this message in context:
>> >>
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#17365 From: panokaemena@...
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:20 am
Subject: Re: D300 with ISO 2000
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I just discovered that I accidently dropped a wrong Flash movie in
the  low light, high ISO inside Cannon pano....

now it is corrected
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteCanhao1/index_swf.html

and the Flash version shows the right panorama....

Willy

On Jan 31, 2008, at 21:24, panokaemena@... wrote:

>
> Today I visited the fort Copacabana here in Rio de Janeiro. It is an
> almost 100 years old fortification.
>
> as now usual for me in 3 versions : QT , Flash and Deval
>
> The cannons were made by Krupp in Germany
>
> here some more tests of a Nikon D300 under very low light conditions
> with up to 2000 ISO
>
> D300 ISO 2000 1/15 F5.6 monopod 4 shots Nikkor8/2.8 no noise reduction
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteCanhao1
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteCanhao1/index_swf.html
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteCanhao1/index_Dv.html
>
> D300 ISO 1600 1/15 F5.6 monopod 4 shots Nikkor8/2.8 no noise reduction
> this I will remake again in PS because the light was much lesser
> than it appears here.
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteUsina
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteUsina/index_swf.html
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/ForteUsina/index_Dv.html
>
> some "normal" light conditions panos of the Fort
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort2
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort2/index_swf.html
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort2/index_Dv.html
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort1
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort1/index_swf.html
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/Rio/CopacabanaFort1/index_Dv.html
>
> Willy Kaemena
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> http://bremen.360cities.net/
> http://syria.360cities.net/
> http://lisbon.360cities.net/
>
>
>

Willy Kaemena

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#17366 From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 2:26 am
Subject: RE: Re: Sony announce 25Mp 35mm sensor
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> From: Roger D. Williams
>
> Looks like a great sensor for high-end DSLRs. But the cost/performance
> ratio of a 1.5x factor DSLR with a circular fisheye like the new Sigma
> 4.5mm will probably win out for most of us. Similar numbers of pixels
> and greater depth of focus in the latter case...

Also, I suspect that 25Mp is well beyond the resolution of any fisheye lens.
If you want that many pixels worth of good sharp pano imagery, you need a
narrower lens, and lots more shots.

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#17367 From: "bohonus" <bradford@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:44 am
Subject: Funny video regarding Google "Street View"
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This is great, and also VR related :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPgV6-gnQaE

#17368 From: "Roger Berry" <onezebra1@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:11 am
Subject: Re: Another Pole Shot
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Yes I have moved around staying behind the pole, but that makes it
go from about 4 seconds for 4 shots to 20 seconds. As you move
around you have to realign and re-stabilize the pole.
When I use the pole lower, say around 3 to 6 feet I will usually
move around behind the pole or kneel down to keep the camera higher
above me.
I own 2 pole levels and don't use them, takes too long looking at
one for each shot. I just stand in one place, let the pole balance
itself, and turn it fast for the shots.
By standing in one place holding the pole with one hand and turning
it with the other you can keep if very staidly and centered.
Most times it only takes a few minutes to remove myself from the
photo with PhotoShop but sometimes I'm not looking behind my back to
see if I may be blocking anything, and the higher the pole the less
the problem because of the angle.

Roger Berry

>
> Have you tried turning around staying behind the camera's view as
you turn the pole so you
> would not end up being in the shot?
>

#17369 From: Julian <aaaardvark@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 5:59 am
Subject: New sperical pano head and 185degree crop lens
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It's not my bag, but I was surprised to see these two items announced
at PMA today ...

http://www.imaging-resource.com/EVENTS/PMAS08/1201834256.html

http://www.imaging-resource.com/EVENTS/PMAS08/1201835175.html

It's a fisheye lens and matching pano head designed to get full
sperical panos with three shots on a 1.5 or 1.6 crop camera.  I've
never heard of Sunex.  Apologies if this is old news or not really useful stuff.

#17370 From: "Ingemar Bergmark" <ingemar@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:22 am
Subject: OT: EnfuseGUI weight problems
ingemar_b
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Hi,

EnfuseGUI seems to have some "weight problems" :-)

Thats is; For some users, if you enter a decimal value for the fusion
weights Contrast, Saturation or Exposure, the program responds with
an "Must be numeric" error.
I can't reproduce the problem on any of my PC's. For me it works
perfectly.

Now I'm just wondering if any other people out there have the same
problem...

Note: Decimal values should be entered with a period "."

Regards.
Ingemar

#17371 From: Yuval Levy <yahoo06@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:32 am
Subject: Re: OT: EnfuseGUI weight problems
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Ingemar Bergmark wrote:
> Note: Decimal values should be entered with a period "."

isn't that set by system's Regional and Language settings?
Yuv

#17372 From: "John Houghton" <j.houghton@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:18 am
Subject: Re: New sperical pano head and 185degree crop lens
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Julian <aaaardvark@...> wrote:
>
> I've never heard of Sunex.  Apologies if this is old news

See http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/16857

John

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