Sometime around 31/1/08 (at 11:08 +0000) brenlikescheese said:
>I use Cubic Converter & Connector to create the tours. Can you suggest
>any other software for the mac that will do the same jobs better?
For QuickTime VR panorama production from existing stitched
equirectangular or cube face images, this seems to be the best option
around. But I will look with interest to see what other people
suggest.
>Setting the QT motion quality to 'High', is that something I would
>have to do in QuickTime Pro?
That's a setting in CubicConverter. In the Movie tab, open the
Panning Quality disclosure triangle (aka the flippy arrow thing) and
make sure both Motion and Static are set to High. The 'Normal'
setting may have been important back in the 1990s, but not any more!
Well, it might possibly help reduce jumpy panning with large movies,
but the tradeoff isn't something I'd like to make.
>Nice tour of the Glade by the way. I was gonna go this year but heard
>it was getting washed out so went to Holmbush instead (little local
>festival).
You probably wouldn't have been able to get a ticket to Glade by the
time the weather was known anyway - it sells out long before the
event. But you did manage to avoid an incredible amount of rain and
mud! I have a few VRs from that one here:
http://www.thehelpful.com/glade07/
k
Hi Kevin,
Damn those Indians can program much faster than I can :)
Matt
On 31 Jan 2008, at 15:20, anodyssey wrote:
> I posted a new Mac OS X application called XFuse in the user folder
> at Kekus.com.
>
> http://www.kekus.com/for_reg_users/
>
> XFuse is a front-end for Enfuse and allows for batch processing and
> the easy setting of many
> common enfuse options via easy controls. Advanced options can be
> specified in an
> 'advanced' box.
>
> This is a beta so there will likely still be some bugs.
>
> Kevin
>
> P.S. The download does not include the enfuse application.
>
Thanks Kevin and Matt, this is so much better than using Xblend with
the enfuse binaries, more controllable. I am continually amazed at
how well enfuse works!
Thanks again Kevin, I will send a donation when I have the funds.
On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Matthew Rogers wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Damn those Indians can program much faster than I can :)
>
> Matt
>
> On 31 Jan 2008, at 15:20, anodyssey wrote:
>
> > I posted a new Mac OS X application called XFuse in the user folder
> > at Kekus.com.
> >
> > http://www.kekus.com/for_reg_users/
> >
> > XFuse is a front-end for Enfuse and allows for batch processing and
> > the easy setting of many
> > common enfuse options via easy controls. Advanced options can be
> > specified in an
> > 'advanced' box.
> >
> > This is a beta so there will likely still be some bugs.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > P.S. The download does not include the enfuse application.
> >
>
Cheers
Robert C. Fisher
VR Photography/Cinematography
Roger,
You've gone an got me interested in pole panoramas now. Just as my
wife thought I was content with my camera gear ;-)
K-Tek poles are out of my price range but the Gitzo G1568 Series 2
Carbon Fiber 4-Section Monopod you mentioned looks interesting and on
the go at $230. I guess I need an all rounder. Height of 63 inches
seems ok for the high up shots and after lugging all my camera gear
around New York City for 3 days, the thought of using a pole instead
of a tripod & NN3, it sounds like a lot less weight. Not to mention
getting over keen security off my back. First two words they are
taught during training must be "No tripods".
I have the D80 & 10.5mm (not shaved). Could mean problems with the up
and down views?
Look forward to your advice,
Andrew
--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Berry" <onezebra1@...>
wrote:
>
> Yes my Nikkor 10.5mm lens is shaved.
>
> A few reasons why the K-Tek poles are more expensive are, its
carbon
> fiber and they are the only ones that make a style like this. It's
> very strong, light, and fast to setup.
> Take a look at prices on some of the nice carbon fiber tripods and
> monopods like this one.
> Gitzo G1568 Series 2 Carbon Fiber 4-Section Monopod: $237.00
>
> Some people lug around a $600 or $700 carbon fiber tripod like the
> one that I have, but I get far more use out of this pole and it's
far
> easier walking around with than a big tripod. It also make a good
> walking stick and I can even slid it under my belt to have my hands
> free and hardly notice its there.
>
> It's just a piece of equipment like a very good fisheye lens; it
all
> depends on how much use you will get out of it. After looking all
> over I just couldn't find any others poles that met my needs. At
> first I thought it was expensive, but as much as I use it and the
> things that I can do with it, I don't feel that way anymore.
>
> Roger Berry
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "verifone411" <kieranmullen@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Do you use a shaved 10.5 to allow for a larger sensor?
> >
> > Why are ktech poles so much more expensive
> > http://www.mklemme.com/pole/k102.html than
> > http://www.studio1productions.com/skypod.htm
> >
> > I currently have a 7ft Bogen monopod. Taller is always better. I
am
> > 6ft 5in tall.
> >
> > KM
>
I own a Cavision SCPN635F carbon fiber pole and I'm very satisfied.
You can see other models at:
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=sort&A=search&Q=&sortDrop=Pri\
ce%3A+Low+to+High&bl=&atl=Brand_Cavision&pn=1&st=search&mnp=0.0&mxp=0.0&sv=pole&\
shs=pole&ac=&fi=all&pn=1&ci=8659&cmpsrch=&cltp=&clsgr=>
acessar o site <http://www.tourvirtualbrasil.com.br>
Andrew G escreveu:
>
> Roger,
>
> You've gone an got me interested in pole panoramas now. Just as my
> wife thought I was content with my camera gear ;-)
>
> K-Tek poles are out of my price range but the Gitzo G1568 Series 2
> Carbon Fiber 4-Section Monopod you mentioned looks interesting and on
> the go at $230. I guess I need an all rounder. Height of 63 inches
> seems ok for the high up shots and after lugging all my camera gear
> around New York City for 3 days, the thought of using a pole instead
> of a tripod & NN3, it sounds like a lot less weight. Not to mention
> getting over keen security off my back. First two words they are
> taught during training must be "No tripods".
>
> I have the D80 & 10.5mm (not shaved). Could mean problems with the up
> and down views?
>
> Look forward to your advice,
>
> Andrew
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "Roger Berry" <onezebra1@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes my Nikkor 10.5mm lens is shaved.
> >
> > A few reasons why the K-Tek poles are more expensive are, its
> carbon
> > fiber and they are the only ones that make a style like this. It's
> > very strong, light, and fast to setup.
> > Take a look at prices on some of the nice carbon fiber tripods and
> > monopods like this one.
> > Gitzo G1568 Series 2 Carbon Fiber 4-Section Monopod: $237.00
> >
> > Some people lug around a $600 or $700 carbon fiber tripod like the
> > one that I have, but I get far more use out of this pole and it's
> far
> > easier walking around with than a big tripod. It also make a good
> > walking stick and I can even slid it under my belt to have my hands
> > free and hardly notice its there.
> >
> > It's just a piece of equipment like a very good fisheye lens; it
> all
> > depends on how much use you will get out of it. After looking all
> > over I just couldn't find any others poles that met my needs. At
> > first I thought it was expensive, but as much as I use it and the
> > things that I can do with it, I don't feel that way anymore.
> >
> > Roger Berry
> >
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "verifone411" <kieranmullen@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you use a shaved 10.5 to allow for a larger sensor?
> > >
> > > Why are ktech poles so much more expensive
> > > http://www.mklemme.com/pole/k102.html
> <http://www.mklemme.com/pole/k102.html> than
> > > http://www.studio1productions.com/skypod.htm
> <http://www.studio1productions.com/skypod.htm>
> > >
> > > I currently have a 7ft Bogen monopod. Taller is always better. I
> am
> > > 6ft 5in tall.
> > >
> > > KM
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date: 31/1/2008
09:09
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I had bad experience with Walimex products, cheap Manfrotto copies, with
all old manfrotto drawbacks and none of the plus.
:-/ Is this any good?
Freddy Stapersma ha scritto:
>
> I bought a cheap horizontal extention from walimex.
> a bit heavy but I only use this for indoor hdr shoots anyway.
> works like a charm!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ywdy4o <http://tinyurl.com/ywdy4o>
>
> bought it for 30 euros on Ebay.
>
> Regards.
> discocandy
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > brenlikescheese wrote:
> > >
> > > Are there any tricks for getting the nadir shot??
> > >
> >
> > Besides the already mentioned ones you can use a short horizontal
> pole
> > mounted to your tripod or a construction like this:
> > http://michel.thoby.free.fr/Nadir/Ninja/Ninja_Eng.html
> <http://michel.thoby.free.fr/Nadir/Ninja/Ninja_Eng.html>
> >
> > best regards
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Erik Krause
> > http://www.erik-krause.de <http://www.erik-krause.de>
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Nadir-shot--
> <http://www.nabble.com/Nadir-shot-->
> tp15186025p15200696.html
> > Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
>
>
I've the zero nadir technique too, with 10.5 and 8mm, with monopod and
with tripod.
Maybe it could be my Prague speech... "Unusual uses of usual fisheyes -
shoot more, stitch less -"
Jeffrey Martin ha scritto:
>
> Ok, 5 - 10x is a bit of an exaggeration....
>
> Meanwhile MIlko and Michel Thoby have the "zero nadir" technique.....
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Berry" <onezebra1@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, that tourist sometimes gets in my photos like in this one below.
> http://www.indiavrtours.com/jaipur/amer_elephants4.html
>
> The problem is to remove him would not be easy with the people behind
> him, so sometimes I have to do the next best thing.
Have you tried turning around staying behind the camera's view as you turn the
pole so you
would not end up being in the shot?
Hello,
does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
@12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
Thanks
Ciao
Mike
--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "mhc954" <ptgroup@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>
> @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
Yes 12mm corresponds to Sigma 8mm on a small sensor so you can take 4 around.
8000x4000 pixels
Hans
If you keep it 60degrees twisted, you can zoom till black corners are
small and you may still shoot 4.
mhc954 ha scritto:
>
> Hello,
> does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>
> @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>
> Thanks
> Ciao
> Mike
>
>
He can zoom more, I think.
Hans Nyberg ha scritto:
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "mhc954" <ptgroup@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
> >
> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>
> Yes 12mm corresponds to Sigma 8mm on a small sensor so you can take 4
> around.
> 8000x4000 pixels
>
> Hans
>
>
@ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
Equi 4670x9340
Michael Hundrieser wrote:
>
> Hello,
> does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>
> @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>
> Thanks
> Ciao
> Mike
>
>
>
>
--
View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html
Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
rotate the camera 60 degrees, and place the lens on an Agnos.com Ring,
on a Bob ring or homebrew thing.
Since the plombline will pass through the diagonal of the sensor, you
will be able to zoom till you have 4 tiny black angles and still be able
to shot 4 for a spherical.
Without holes on Zenit and Nadir.
:°)
bigwade ha scritto:
>
>
> @ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
> 4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
> Equi 4670x9340
>
> Michael Hundrieser wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
> >
> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ciao
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html
> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html>
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
Stil 4 shots........
does'nt matter.
Hey Luca, should'nt you be in the darkroom right now for fine-artprints ?
:-)))))))
Luca Vascon wrote:
>
> rotate the camera 60 degrees, and place the lens on an Agnos.com Ring,
> on a Bob ring or homebrew thing.
> Since the plombline will pass through the diagonal of the sensor, you
> will be able to zoom till you have 4 tiny black angles and still be able
> to shot 4 for a spherical.
> Without holes on Zenit and Nadir.
> :°)
>
> bigwade ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> @ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
>> 4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
>> Equi 4670x9340
>>
>> Michael Hundrieser wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
>> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
>> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>> >
>> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Ciao
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html
>> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html>
>> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15218261.html
Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Kevin,
Great !
Try it tomorrow.
anodyssey wrote:
>
> I posted a new Mac OS X application called XFuse in the user folder at
> Kekus.com.
>
> http://www.kekus.com/for_reg_users/
>
> XFuse is a front-end for Enfuse and allows for batch processing and the
> easy setting of many
> common enfuse options via easy controls. Advanced options can be specified
> in an
> 'advanced' box.
>
> This is a beta so there will likely still be some bugs.
>
> Kevin
>
> P.S. The download does not include the enfuse application.
>
>
>
--
View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/ANN%3A--XFuse---A-Mac-OS-X-front-end-to-Enfuse-tp15207202p\
15218286.html
Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I was all the day... for developing.
I scan, right now...
bigwade ha scritto:
>
>
> Stil 4 shots........
> does'nt matter.
> Hey Luca, should'nt you be in the darkroom right now for fine-artprints ?
> :-)))))))
>
> Luca Vascon wrote:
> >
> > rotate the camera 60 degrees, and place the lens on an Agnos.com Ring,
> > on a Bob ring or homebrew thing.
> > Since the plombline will pass through the diagonal of the sensor, you
> > will be able to zoom till you have 4 tiny black angles and still be
> able
> > to shot 4 for a spherical.
> > Without holes on Zenit and Nadir.
> > :°)
> >
> > bigwade ha scritto:
> >>
> >>
> >> @ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
> >> 4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
> >> Equi 4670x9340
> >>
> >> Michael Hundrieser wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon 5d
> >> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
> >> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
> >> >
> >> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Ciao
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html
> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html>
>
> >>
> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html
> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html>>
> >> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15218261.html
> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15218261.html>
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:51:21 +0900, Peter Braatz <yahoo@...> wrote:
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "AYRTON - avi" <avi@...> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200801/08-010E/index.htm
>> A Y R T O N
>>
>
> Hi Ayrton - just to be correct;
>
> http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200801/08-010E/index.html
>
> It is html not htm :-)
Thanks, Peter. So THAT's why I got a "not found" when I tried to
see what Ayrton's message was about... (Thanks, Ayrton!)
Looks like a great sensor for high-end DSLRs. But the cost/performance
ratio of a 1.5x factor DSLR with a circular fisheye like the new Sigma
4.5mm will probably win out for most of us. Similar numbers of pixels
and greater depth of focus in the latter case...
Roger W.
--
Work: www.adex-japan.com
Play: www.usefilm.com/member/roger
brown fingers........
left that in 1997:-))
Luca Vascon wrote:
>
> I was all the day... for developing.
> I scan, right now...
>
>
> bigwade ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> Stil 4 shots........
>> does'nt matter.
>> Hey Luca, should'nt you be in the darkroom right now for fine-artprints ?
>> :-)))))))
>>
>> Luca Vascon wrote:
>> >
>> > rotate the camera 60 degrees, and place the lens on an Agnos.com Ring,
>> > on a Bob ring or homebrew thing.
>> > Since the plombline will pass through the diagonal of the sensor, you
>> > will be able to zoom till you have 4 tiny black angles and still be
>> able
>> > to shot 4 for a spherical.
>> > Without holes on Zenit and Nadir.
>> > :°)
>> >
>> > bigwade ha scritto:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> @ the 1 at 13 on the lens you have ± the same as a Sig8/3.5 on a 400D.
>> >> 4 around is enough and you will a have a little hole in the top
>> >> Equi 4670x9340
>> >>
>> >> Michael Hundrieser wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> > does anybody have information if a Tokina 10-17 Fisheye on a Canon
>> 5d
>> >> > at 12.5mm setting can go with 4 shots ??
>> >> > As I understand Michel Thobys test it has sufficient overlap.
>> >> >
>> >> > @12.5 should be the firts FF- setting.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Ciao
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> View this message in context:
>> >>
>> http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html
>> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html>
>>
>> >>
>> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html
>> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15217895.html>>
>> >> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15218261.html
>> <http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15218261.html>
>> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/5D---Tokina-10.5-%40-12.5-tp15216175p15218446.html
Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> From: Roger D. Williams
>
> Looks like a great sensor for high-end DSLRs. But the cost/performance
> ratio of a 1.5x factor DSLR with a circular fisheye like the new Sigma
> 4.5mm will probably win out for most of us. Similar numbers of pixels
> and greater depth of focus in the latter case...
Also, I suspect that 25Mp is well beyond the resolution of any fisheye lens.
If you want that many pixels worth of good sharp pano imagery, you need a
narrower lens, and lots more shots.
--
Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...
Yes I have moved around staying behind the pole, but that makes it
go from about 4 seconds for 4 shots to 20 seconds. As you move
around you have to realign and re-stabilize the pole.
When I use the pole lower, say around 3 to 6 feet I will usually
move around behind the pole or kneel down to keep the camera higher
above me.
I own 2 pole levels and don't use them, takes too long looking at
one for each shot. I just stand in one place, let the pole balance
itself, and turn it fast for the shots.
By standing in one place holding the pole with one hand and turning
it with the other you can keep if very staidly and centered.
Most times it only takes a few minutes to remove myself from the
photo with PhotoShop but sometimes I'm not looking behind my back to
see if I may be blocking anything, and the higher the pole the less
the problem because of the angle.
Roger Berry
>
> Have you tried turning around staying behind the camera's view as
you turn the pole so you
> would not end up being in the shot?
>
Hi,
EnfuseGUI seems to have some "weight problems" :-)
Thats is; For some users, if you enter a decimal value for the fusion
weights Contrast, Saturation or Exposure, the program responds with
an "Must be numeric" error.
I can't reproduce the problem on any of my PC's. For me it works
perfectly.
Now I'm just wondering if any other people out there have the same
problem...
Note: Decimal values should be entered with a period "."
Regards.
Ingemar