Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:



> Yes....  a golden eagle !!

I'm not going to say any more or i will give away a decent idea =0)



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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"

<sphereworkspete@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone give me

> some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up?  We've

> found a large photography mast to hire.  What's the best way of

> shooting the ground?

>

>

> Cheers,

>

> Pete

> www.sphereworks.co.uk

>



It depends on what type of mast you'll be using and how you are going

to keep it upright.

If it's attached to a vehicle, like most larger types of masts are,

you'll have to move the car a bit and take an offset shot just like

you would with a tripod. That will give parallax problems with

non-flat surfaces.

If it's a hand-held type, like the pneumatic Clark mast I use myself,

you can make near perfect nadirs by tilting the camera down for just

two extra opposing shots after you've made the 360 series. This means

lowering the camera, adjusting the panohead, and extending the mast

again to take those nadir shots. Just stay behind the mast by rotating

with it, so you get two shots like this one:

<http://flickr.com/photos/erik-nl/2813650292/>

Paint an alpha mask over the mast in Photoshop and use them in PTGui

(or your tool of choise) to fill the nadir hole. By taking two

opposing shots you will have all the material you need, AND it will be

parallax free!

Oh, and I do not agree with Willy that 30cm sway doesn't matter, it

does if you want a really good nadir. I try NOT to use the cloning

tool, and I think it shows. .... ehhh, make that I *hope* it shows :)



Good luck with your project!



Erik Leeman



http://www.erikleeman.com/

http://flickr.com/photos/erik-nl/

Yes....  a golden eagle !!





Pete

www.sphereworks.co.uk





--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, crane@... wrote:

>

> Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:

>

> > It's quite likly that the nadir will be trees so might be fairly

> > simple to clone it.

>

> I would photograph a nest with eggs and drop that in in that case ;-

)

>

> mick

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Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:



> It's quite likly that the nadir will be trees so might be fairly

> simple to clone it.



I would photograph a nest with eggs and drop that in in that case ;-)



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Petethis one was made around 9 meters high, inside a Shopping Mall :



<http://ayrton.com/360/fs/rdbaltonatalfla.html>



I just add the logo on my nadir because it's a way to always get new Clients

calling me !



I charge 40% more if the Client wants it out, I mean, having a complete

nadir there.



They always choose to go with my logo,  and pay 40% LESS saving money  :-)



Best

AYRTON







On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Willy Kaemena <panokaemena@...> wrote:



> Don't  worry about any " precision"  even a sway ( out of nodal)  of

> 30cm wouldn't do any harm on that distance above ground.

>

> Willy

>

>

>

> On Oct 31, 2008, at 15:05, sphereworks wrote:

>

> > using a D200 and 10.5mm with a 360precision Absolute head, though

> > wasn't planing on using the head.

> >

> > Thanks for your help, have a better idea now.

> >

> > Pete

> > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> >

> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Willy Kaemena <panokaemena@...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I would not worry about the nadir if you are using a 8mm lens

> > >

> > > Only keep your panohead directly under your lens small enough or

> > use

> > > any kind of "spacer" that would reduce the footprint to almost

> > nothing.

> > >

> > > see here with an only 3m "mast " you will see even my fingers

> > > holding the mast and that with only 4 horizontal shots Sigma

> > 8mm

> > > 3.5 on Nikon D300.

> > >

> > > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/BHV/MediterraneoEingang/

> > >

> > > Willy Kaemena

> > >

> > > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html

> > > http://bremen.360cities.net/

> > > http://syria.360cities.net/

> > > http://lisbon.360cities.net/

> > >

> > > On Oct 31, 2008, at 14:00, crane@... wrote:

> > >

> > > > Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:

> > > >

> > > > > sorry, should of mentioned we would like it to be a spherical

> > > > > panorama.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete

> > > > > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"

> > > > > <sphereworkspete@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone

> > give

> > > > me

> > > > > > some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up?

> > We've

> > > > > > found a large photography mast to hire. What's the best way of

> > > > > > shooting the ground?

> > > >

> > > > let's get this straight.. You've taken this job on and now

> > you're

> > > > asking us

> > > > how to do it ?

> > > >

> > > > ;-)

> > > >

> > > > mick

> > > >

> > > > > > Cheers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pete

> > > > > > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> > > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

> Willy Kaemena

>

> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html

> http://bremen.360cities.net/

> http://syria.360cities.net/

> http://lisbon.360cities.net/

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Don't  worry about any " precision"  even a sway ( out of nodal)  of

30cm wouldn't do any harm on that distance above ground.



Willy







On Oct 31, 2008, at 15:05, sphereworks wrote:



> using a D200 and 10.5mm with a 360precision Absolute head, though

> wasn't planing on using the head.

>

> Thanks for your help, have a better idea now.

>

> Pete

> www.sphereworks.co.uk

>

> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Willy Kaemena <panokaemena@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > I would not worry about the nadir if you are using a 8mm lens

> >

> > Only keep your panohead directly under your lens small enough or

> use

> > any kind of "spacer" that would reduce the footprint to almost

> nothing.

> >

> > see here with an only 3m "mast " you will see even my fingers

> > holding the mast and that with only 4 horizontal shots Sigma

> 8mm

> > 3.5 on Nikon D300.

> >

> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/BHV/MediterraneoEingang/

> >

> > Willy Kaemena

> >

> > http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html

> > http://bremen.360cities.net/

> > http://syria.360cities.net/

> > http://lisbon.360cities.net/

> >

> > On Oct 31, 2008, at 14:00, crane@... wrote:

> >

> > > Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:

> > >

> > > > sorry, should of mentioned we would like it to be a spherical

> > > > panorama.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Cheers,

> > > >

> > > > Pete

> > > > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> > > >

> > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"

> > > > <sphereworkspete@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone

> give

> > > me

> > > > > some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up?

> We've

> > > > > found a large photography mast to hire. What's the best way of

> > > > > shooting the ground?

> > >

> > > let's get this straight.. You've taken this job on and now

> you're

> > > asking us

> > > how to do it ?

> > >

> > > ;-)

> > >

> > > mick

> > >

> > > > > Cheers,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete

> > > > > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>

>



Willy Kaemena



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http://syria.360cities.net/

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It's quite likly that the nadir will be trees so might be fairly

simple to clone it.





Pete

www.sphereworks.co.uk



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, crane@... wrote:

>

> Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:

>

> > :-)  in a round about way yeh....   The commision is for a

panoramic

> > image, not a spherical....  but I want to produce a spherical.

I've

> > no problem taking the 360 pano and sky, it's just the floor shot

I'm

> > worried about.  Got a couple ideas, but just wandered how other

> > people do it.

>

> I've never bothered with the Nadir, just cloned over it ususlly. I

would

> probably move the pole sideways and warp that downshot in place. I

can't see

> that it is very different from all the normal explanations using a

tripod.

>

> cheers

>

> mick

>

>

>

> > Cheers,

> >

> > Pete

> > www.sphereworks.co.uk

>

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using a D200 and 10.5mm with a 360precision Absolute head, though

wasn't planing on using the head.



Thanks for your help, have a better idea now.





Pete

www.sphereworks.co.uk



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Willy Kaemena <panokaemena@...>

wrote:

>

> I would not worry about the nadir if you are using a 8mm  lens

>

> Only keep your panohead directly under your lens small enough or

use

> any kind of  "spacer" that would reduce the footprint to almost

nothing.

>

> see here   with an only  3m  "mast " you will see even my fingers

> holding the mast  and  that with only 4  horizontal shots Sigma

8mm

> 3.5 on Nikon D300.

>

> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/BHV/MediterraneoEingang/

>

> Willy Kaemena

>

> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html

> http://bremen.360cities.net/

> http://syria.360cities.net/

> http://lisbon.360cities.net/

>

> On Oct 31, 2008, at 14:00, crane@... wrote:

>

> > Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:

> >

> > > sorry, should of mentioned we would like it to be a spherical

> > > panorama.

> > >

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > Pete

> > > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> > >

> > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"

> > > <sphereworkspete@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone

give

> > me

> > > > some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up?

We've

> > > > found a large photography mast to hire. What's the best way of

> > > > shooting the ground?

> >

> > let's get this straight.. You've taken this job on and now

you're

> > asking us

> > how to do it ?

> >

> > ;-)

> >

> > mick

> >

> > > > Cheers,

> > > >

> > > > Pete

> > > > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------

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> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:



> :-)  in a round about way yeh....   The commision is for a panoramic

> image, not a spherical....  but I want to produce a spherical.  I've

> no problem taking the 360 pano and sky, it's just the floor shot I'm

> worried about.  Got a couple ideas, but just wandered how other

> people do it.



I've never bothered with the Nadir, just cloned over it ususlly. I would

probably move the pole sideways and warp that downshot in place. I can't see

that it is very different from all the normal explanations using a tripod.



cheers



mick







> Cheers,

>

> Pete

> www.sphereworks.co.uk





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:-)  in a round about way yeh....   The commision is for a panoramic

image, not a spherical....  but I want to produce a spherical.  I've

no problem taking the 360 pano and sky, it's just the floor shot I'm

worried about.  Got a couple ideas, but just wandered how other

people do it.



Cheers,



Pete

www.sphereworks.co.uk





--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, crane@... wrote:

>

> Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:

>

> > sorry, should of mentioned we would like it to be a spherical

> > panorama.

> >

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > Pete

> > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> >

> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"

> > <sphereworkspete@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone

give me

> > > some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up?

We've

> > > found a large photography mast to hire.  What's the best way of

> > > shooting the ground?

>

> let's get this straight.. You've taken this job on and now you're

asking us

> how to do it ?

>

> ;-)

>

> mick

>

> > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > Pete

> > > www.sphereworks.co.uk

>

>

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I would not worry about the nadir if you are using a 8mm  lens



Only keep your panohead directly under your lens small enough or use

any kind of  "spacer" that would reduce the footprint to almost nothing.



see here   with an only  3m  "mast " you will see even my fingers

holding the mast  and  that with only 4  horizontal shots Sigma 8mm

3.5 on Nikon D300.



http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FS/BHV/MediterraneoEingang/



Willy Kaemena



http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html

http://bremen.360cities.net/

http://syria.360cities.net/

http://lisbon.360cities.net/



On Oct 31, 2008, at 14:00, crane@... wrote:



> Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:

>

> > sorry, should of mentioned we would like it to be a spherical

> > panorama.

> >

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > Pete

> > www.sphereworks.co.uk

> >

> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"

> > <sphereworkspete@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone give

> me

> > > some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up? We've

> > > found a large photography mast to hire. What's the best way of

> > > shooting the ground?

>

> let's get this straight.. You've taken this job on and now you're

> asking us

> how to do it ?

>

> ;-)

>

> mick

>

> > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > Pete

> > > www.sphereworks.co.uk

>

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Quoting sphereworks <sphereworkspete@...>:



> sorry, should of mentioned we would like it to be a spherical

> panorama.

>

>

> Cheers,

>

> Pete

> www.sphereworks.co.uk

>

> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"

> <sphereworkspete@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone give me

> > some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up?  We've

> > found a large photography mast to hire.  What's the best way of

> > shooting the ground?



let's get this straight.. You've taken this job on and now you're asking us

how to do it ?



;-)



mick



> > Cheers,

> >

> > Pete

> > www.sphereworks.co.uk





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sorry, should of mentioned we would like it to be a spherical

panorama.





Cheers,



Pete

www.sphereworks.co.uk



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"

<sphereworkspete@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone give me

> some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up?  We've

> found a large photography mast to hire.  What's the best way of

> shooting the ground?

>

>

> Cheers,

>

> Pete

> www.sphereworks.co.uk

>

Hi,



We've got a commision to take a 10m high pano, could anyone give me

some advice or tips on how to take a pano on a mast 10m up?  We've

found a large photography mast to hire.  What's the best way of

shooting the ground?





Cheers,



Pete

www.sphereworks.co.uk