Hi Fulvio

  From Alexa.com:

Company Info for valaispano.ch:
Olivier Addy
Rue du Bourg 64
CH-1920 Martigny,
SWITZERLAND

You can also get historic copies of the website here:
http://web.archive.org/

Hope it helps

Jaume Llorens
http://www.vistes360.com


En/na Fulvio Senore ha escrit:
> I hope that somebody in the list can help me.
>
> Once upon a time there was a nice site, www.valaispano.ch, that
> contained many mountain panos taken in the Valais (part of Switzerland).
>
> Now I would like to contact the site author, but I discovered that the
> site is gone and the domain has been parked. The Wayback Machine
> confirmed that the site vanished about one year ago.
>
> Does anybody know how to contact the author of that site?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Fulvio Senore
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>


--
Jaume Llorens i Bach
Av. Països Catalans, 1-3, 3E. 17820 - Banyoles
Tels: 972 981 141 / 657 038 339
http://www.vistes360.com

Hello,

I want to have a smooth auto rotation of a spherical panorama compiled to swf
format with pano2qtvr on a html web page. Any suggestions on how to do that? I
have tried to compile auto rotation inside the swf file but it isn't smooth...
Or, there are other methods to obtain this? I would like to have a virtual tour
with thumbs photos to link to 5-10 panoramas, all on a web page.
Do you know where I can get some help with the web page? Maybe there are some
plugins (to display map, info, etc. over the panorama), or ready-made web pages
(free or charged), or some tutorials on how to make a virtual tour containing
web page...

Thanks

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "dino2two" <dino2two@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to have a smooth auto rotation of a spherical panorama compiled to swf
format with pano2qtvr on a html web page. Any suggestions on how to do that? I
have tried to compile auto rotation inside the swf file but it isn't smooth...
> Or, there are other methods to obtain this? I would like to have a virtual
tour with thumbs photos to link to 5-10 panoramas, all on a web page.
> Do you know where I can get some help with the web page? Maybe there are some
plugins (to display map, info, etc. over the panorama), or ready-made web pages
(free or charged), or some tutorials on how to make a virtual tour containing
web page...

Pano2QTVR only supports Flash 8 panoramas.

Flash 8 will not give you smooth panning, You have  to upgrade to a flash 9/10
viewer like Pano2VR or FPP or KRPano.

Hans

I tried Pano2VR and it worked really well and was really easy to use.

I know next to nothing about Flash and I made a simple page in minutes.
The image quality was really good in a Flash10 capable browser.

Hans Nyberg wrote:
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "dino2two" <dino2two@...> wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I want to have a smooth auto rotation of a spherical panorama compiled to swf
format with pano2qtvr on a html web page. Any suggestions on how to do that? I
have tried to compile auto rotation inside the swf file but it isn't smooth...
>>Or, there are other methods to obtain this? I would like to have a virtual
tour with thumbs photos to link to 5-10 panoramas, all on a web page.
>>Do you know where I can get some help with the web page? Maybe there are some
plugins (to display map, info, etc. over the panorama), or ready-made web pages
(free or charged), or some tutorials on how to make a virtual tour containing
web page...
>
>
> Pano2QTVR only supports Flash 8 panoramas.
>
> Flash 8 will not give you smooth panning, You have  to upgrade to a flash 9/10
viewer like Pano2VR or FPP or KRPano.
>
> Hans
>
>

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:
>
> I tried Pano2VR and it worked really well and was really easy to
> use.
> I know next to nothing about Flash and I made a simple page in
> minutes.
> The image quality was really good in a Flash10 capable browser.

Autorotation and high quality(!) Flash10 VR panos don't mix well either,
no matter what tool you use to generate them. Panning smoothness all depends on
the chosen settings, and you just can't have high-res, highly detailed, sharp,
anti-aliased panos that autorotate smoothly. Not until Flash learns hardware
acceleration like DevalVR has been using for ages! Fingers crossed Flash 11 will
get a little bit closer to what we need.

Erik Leeman

(http://www.erikleeman.com/)

I didn't try autorotation.  I find it annoying anyway...

erik leeman wrote:
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:
>
>>I tried Pano2VR and it worked really well and was really easy to
>>use.
>>I know next to nothing about Flash and I made a simple page in
>>minutes.
>>The image quality was really good in a Flash10 capable browser.
>
>
> Autorotation and high quality(!) Flash10 VR panos don't mix well either,
> no matter what tool you use to generate them. Panning smoothness all depends
on the chosen settings, and you just can't have high-res, highly detailed,
sharp, anti-aliased panos that autorotate smoothly. Not until Flash learns
hardware acceleration like DevalVR has been using for ages! Fingers crossed
Flash 11 will get a little bit closer to what we need.
>
> Erik Leeman
>
> (http://www.erikleeman.com/)
>
>

http://dealoco.com/deals/10236/Refurbished-Nikon--25438-R-D60-10.2-Megapixel-Dig\
ital-Camera-SLR-Body-and-Lens-Kit/

or you can use this link

http://tinyurl.com/shake-the-booty

hey tinyurl has custom urls now. hehehehe.

I'm a canon guy myself but damn that's a good deal.



Jeffrey Martin

www.360cities.net - The World in Virtual Reality
tel. +420 608 076 502 / skype jeffrey.s.martin
http://twitter.com/360cities


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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner wrote:
> I didn't try autorotation.  I find it annoying anyway...

Ditto here!
I MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have high-res, highly detailed, sharp, anti-aliased
panos any day! So frame rates suck, too bad!
That will eventually sort itself out (I hope).

Erik Leeman

(http://www.erikleeman.com/)

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:36, paul womack
<pwomack@...<pwomack%40papermule.co.uk>>
wrote:
>
> I appear to have some kind of version problem.
> and yet I don't have many of the options (e.g. --depth)
> so elegantly written of in the documentation.
>

The source of the documentation in
http://panorama.dyndns.org/EandE-documentation/ says that:

> Note: . The documents also describe the use of
> -d, --depth=DEPTH Set the number of bits per channel of the output image.
> DEPTH is 8, 16, 32, R32, or R64.
> This is not part of the standard trunk yet, but both Christopher Spiel an
I myself
> apply them in our binaries (I don't do that for hugin though as hugin is
not yet
> "compatible" with that option).

I don't know why this hasn't been added to enblend/enfuse yet.

Cheers,

Seb


Christoph Spiel delivered 7 patches to Andrew somewhere in September - Early
October 2008 which Andrew applied on 13-09 and on 22-09. After that the
bit-depth patch/enhancement was delivered to Andrew by Christoph but that
got stuck in Andrews "Input Queue" I suppose. Maybe because he started
working on a nona-gpu version.
I think it is a great enhancement and I applied it immediately to my OSX
build which I use in my ImageFuser. The "stand alone" enblend/enfuse builds
I occasionally release are 100% trunk. The ones to be used in Hugin are also
100% because there currently is a small compatibility issue. Hugin needs to
be adapted before this patch can be used (not only OSX, but all OSes).
I too hope that the bit-depth patch is applied soon as from that moment we
can make the (minor) adjustment to Hugin.


2009/3/4 Ken Warner <kwarner000@...>

>   In the Enfuse manual it says:
>
> " If the input images need to be aligned, Hugin (see section Helpful
> Additional
> Programs) is the tool of choice. It produces images exactly in the format
> that
> Enfuse expects. "
>
> I'm assuming that PTGui will also "...produces images exactly in the format
> that
> Enfuse expects."
>
> Yes?
>
>












What this phrase is meaning (and maybe it should be rewritten) is that if
the images need to be aligned, you can use one of the Hugin tools called
align_image_stack. Align_image_stack delivers aligned, "stacked" images
which can be used by enfuse. It is not really a "format" issue, it's a "need
for nicely aligned images"  issue.
I have no idea whether ptgui (or one of the other commercial programs) has
an align_image_stack like tool.

Harry


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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "erik leeman" <erik.leeman@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner <kwarner000@> wrote:
> >
> > I tried Pano2VR and it worked really well and was really easy to
> > use.
> > I know next to nothing about Flash and I made a simple page in
> > minutes.
> > The image quality was really good in a Flash10 capable browser.
>
> Autorotation and high quality(!) Flash10 VR panos don't mix well either,
> no matter what tool you use to generate them. Panning smoothness all depends
on the
>to what we need.

Erik
Flash has had hardware acceleration since the last Flash 9 version.
But  hardware acceleration  really needs the latest and most expensive hardware.
As Denis says in his presentation of the FPP Flash 10 preview version it can
even result in slower performance if you do not have a newer high end computer.
I guess his coming Flash 10 version will have better support for it.

I have tested your panoramas using both My Parallels XP and a cheap 2 year old 2
mhz PC and I have to say that the flash performs better than DevalVR. with
better panning not interupted by jerky jumps which is what you always get with
viewers like DevalVR or SpiV on low end videocards.

Hans

You would like my Java viewer -- I wish I wasn't the only one that can run it...

erik leeman wrote:
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner wrote:
>
>>I didn't try autorotation.  I find it annoying anyway...
>
>
> Ditto here!
> I MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have high-res, highly detailed, sharp, anti-aliased
panos any day! So frame rates suck, too bad!
> That will eventually sort itself out (I hope).
>
> Erik Leeman
>
> (http://www.erikleeman.com/)
>
>

Thank you Sacha,

The place is Barsana Monastery, in Northern Romania, quite famous due to its
wooden church, one of the tallest wooden building in the world, one can see the
relative height of the people near to the distant churces.

During 17th and 18th centuries there was forbidden to build stone orthodox
churches so the people start to build in wood not only churches but houses..
almost everything.
Even nowadays they build a wooden house w/o using a nail

This pano was shoot with 18-55mm kit lens.

Here are some other "low" resolution 7000x3500 shoot with Sigma 8mm on my Canon
350D
http://www.dxn.ro/dxn_pano.html?pano=ManastireaBarsana1
http://www.dxn.ro/dxn_pano.html?pano=ManastireaBarsana2
http://www.dxn.ro/dxn_pano.html?pano=ManastireaBarsana3
http://www.dxn.ro/dxn_pano.html?pano=ManastireaBarsana4
these panos precede the high resolution one and somehow are reflecting the
changing in color of the place, before the first one was rainy then become sunny
and windy.

Dorin

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Sacha Griffin <sachagriffin@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, You certainly deserve all kudos for this image. I especially
> enjoy your delivery format. You can really enjoy every inch of the
> image if your monitor is good enough.
>
> I do have a question though. Are these actual living areas, or is it
> some sort of tourism/park/mini-developer led utopia area? I find it
> hard to believe people would go to such an effort to live in such a
> beautiful place in such amazing houses. Everything around me in the
> south east of the United States, barely has any attempt at an
> aesthetic at all, especially anything modern.
>
> Sacha
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:46 AM, dorindxn <Dorin@...> wrote:
> > Thank you Erik, it means a lot for me.
> >
> > Dorin
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Erik Krause <erik.krause@> wrote:
> >>
> >> dorindxn wrote:
> >>
> >> > The direct link for krpano variant
> >> > http://dorin.europhoto.ro/dxn_pano/ManastireaBarsana5/flash/pano.html
> >>
> >> Incredible! This is how spherical panoramas should be!
> >>
> >> best regards
> >> --
> >> Erik Krause
> >> http://www.erik-krause.de
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Sacha Griffin
> Southern Digital Solutions LLC
> http://www.southern-digital.com
> http://www.seeit360.net
> 404-551-4275
>

Hi Hans,
Thanks for having a look, you seem to be happier with the frame rate of my Flash
panos than I am myself : )
They were all made with a Pano2VR Render Quality of 10 and FULL anti-aliasing,
using rather large cube faces on top of that! These are settings that most avoid
like the plague because of performance issues. So there you go, there's no
telling what works and what doesn't, is there?

I don't think Flash 9 ever had true hardware acceleration. It had the H.264
(video compression) and HE-AAC (sound compression) codecs
<http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:9:Update:H.264>
but I think that was it.
Tinic Uro explained in his blog <http://www.kaourantin.net/> what kind of GPU
acceleration Flash10 was capable of when it was introduced
(Friday, May 16, 2008 What does GPU acceleration mean?), and I think it was he
who wrote that the Flash10 development team hoped to gradually improve hardware
acceleration with each next update of Flash10 Player.
Maybe it would be better to speak of Flash10 'hardware optimization' as things
are now. Which, as your test shows, is no bad thing at all!
But in my view it still stinks for autoration at high quality settings.

Regards,

Erik Leeman


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Nyberg" wrote:
> Flash has had hardware acceleration since the last Flash 9 version.
> But  hardware acceleration  really needs the latest and most
> expensive hardware.
> As Denis says in his presentation of the FPP Flash 10 preview
> version it can even result in slower performance if you do not have
> a newer high end computer.
> I guess his coming Flash 10 version will have better support for it.
>
> I have tested your panoramas using both My Parallels XP and a cheap
> 2 year old 2 mhz PC and I have to say that the flash performs better
> than DevalVR. with better panning not interupted by jerky jumps
> which is what you always get with viewers like DevalVR or SpiV on
> low end videocards.
>
> Hans

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "erik leeman" <erik.leeman@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Hans,
> Thanks for having a look, you seem to be happier with the frame rate of my
Flash panos than I am myself : )
> They were all made with a Pano2VR Render Quality of 10 and FULL anti-aliasing,
using rather large cube faces on top of that! These are settings that most avoid
like the plague because of performance issues. So there you go, there's no
telling what works and what doesn't, is there?
>
> I don't think Flash 9 ever had true hardware acceleration. It had the H.264
(video compression) and HE-AAC (sound compression) codecs
> <http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:9:Update:H.264>
> but I think that was it.

I do not know much about how it works technically.
I can only refer to what Denis and other flash super Gurus say.
http://flashpanoramas.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-318.html

The hardware accelerations  works I believe only in fullscreen which also is the
reason why I have to disable it in my Parallels XP. If I have it enabled
fullscreen flash freezes.

Hans

Thanks for suggestions. I have looked to the Pano2VR software and understood the
difference. I have FPP but loading a .mov file or 6 cube faces seems to be
slower than a .swf format.
BTW, any tips about the virtual tour page?

All the best.

> I do not know much about how it works technically.
> I can only refer to what Denis and other flash super Gurus say.
> http://flashpanoramas.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-318.html
>
> The hardware accelerations  works I believe only in fullscreen which also is
the reason why I have to disable it in my Parallels XP. If I have it enabled
fullscreen flash freezes.
>
> Hans
>

pedro_silva58 schrieb:
> is this really stitched?  couldn't this be done directly with a 5d2 and a
tokina atx 107 or equivalent (asks he, who owns neither, so can't try...)?
> cheers,
> pedro
>
If you show me a single-camera/lens setup that covers the whole 360
degrees in such quality, I'd buy it in a heart beat :-) I think the most
you can get with a single fisheye shot (i.e. not using convex mirrors
because the quality would be too bad) is something like 190 degrees or
so. So there must have more than one camera and lens been used
simultaneously, and thus the results have most likely been stitched. Or
am I totally wrong here, and there is the big secret that all of you
keep confidentially while I am making a fool of myself, still stitching
my images instead of using that secret-super-pan-o-matic-thingy, haha?

Regards, Philipp



> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Philipp B. Koch" <pk@...> wrote:
>
>> panovrx schrieb:
>>
>>> http://www.paranoiko.com/public/special/con_testo.php
>>>
>>> For projection on four screens I think, national media coverage ...
>>> It is not clear how these are done but I think a Canon5D MkII is involved
somehow as it was a 5DMII forum that found this on.
>>>
>>> Peter Murphy
>>>
>> WOW! This is the first pano-video setup I've ever seen that really
>> impressed me. Although I still have no clue, what purpose it could
>> serve, regarding customers (who wants this, and what for?), I'd be
>> curious how it is done. Especially a) how they deal with parallax (other
>> than  with the Ladybug for example, there are obviously no stitching
>> problems also with close objects), and b) how they make such perfect,
>> invisible seams (both regarding the geometrics (no ghosts) and the color
>> (no "wrong" colors)...
>>
>> Regards, Philipp
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>

no, of course you're not "totally wrong here", i was -- not just wrong, but
making a fool of myself, mistaking 180 for 360...  i'll retreat to my hole
now...
cheers,
pedro

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Philipp B. Koch" <pk@...> wrote:
>
> pedro_silva58 schrieb:
> > is this really stitched?  couldn't this be done directly with a 5d2 and a
tokina atx 107 or equivalent (asks he, who owns neither, so can't try...)?
> > cheers,
> > pedro
> >
> If you show me a single-camera/lens setup that covers the whole 360
> degrees in such quality, I'd buy it in a heart beat :-) I think the most
> you can get with a single fisheye shot (i.e. not using convex mirrors
> because the quality would be too bad) is something like 190 degrees or
> so. So there must have more than one camera and lens been used
> simultaneously, and thus the results have most likely been stitched. Or
> am I totally wrong here, and there is the big secret that all of you
> keep confidentially while I am making a fool of myself, still stitching
> my images instead of using that secret-super-pan-o-matic-thingy, haha?
>
> Regards, Philipp
>
>
>
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Philipp B. Koch" <pk@> wrote:
> >
> >> panovrx schrieb:
> >>
> >>> http://www.paranoiko.com/public/special/con_testo.php
> >>>
> >>> For projection on four screens I think, national media coverage ...
> >>> It is not clear how these are done but I think a Canon5D MkII is involved
somehow as it was a 5DMII forum that found this on.
> >>>
> >>> Peter Murphy
> >>>
> >> WOW! This is the first pano-video setup I've ever seen that really
> >> impressed me. Although I still have no clue, what purpose it could
> >> serve, regarding customers (who wants this, and what for?), I'd be
> >> curious how it is done. Especially a) how they deal with parallax (other
> >> than  with the Ladybug for example, there are obviously no stitching
> >> problems also with close objects), and b) how they make such perfect,
> >> invisible seams (both regarding the geometrics (no ghosts) and the color
> >> (no "wrong" colors)...
> >>
> >> Regards, Philipp
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
>

pedro_silva58 schrieb:
> no, of course you're not "totally wrong here", i was -- not just wrong, but
making a fool of myself, mistaking 180 for 360...  i'll retreat to my hole
now...
> cheers,
> pedro
No, you was not making a fool of yourself, such things happen (at least
to me, permanently :-) Besides, it could (and still can be -- only we
don't know how) well been some kind of special-one-shot-solution; and if
so, I'd love to know it...

Thank you for the replies everyone.
I think I am going to try to find some of the caylume lights sticks in an
appropriate color and use them to highlight the structural outlines, then just
go at it with light painting. There just aren't any places to hide extra light
sources such as lanterns. I tried to find that 900lumen flashlight, but it is
not imported into the states by the vendor.
thanks again
K


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "klroost" <etterz@...> wrote:
>
> I have a location I am going to shoot a pano in, the location is
> underground. I have shot panos in the underground environment before,
> specifically in an abandoned gypsum mine. That location was
> challenging, but it was not that bad. I had places for tealights, the
> surfaces were all at a decent distance. Thru a combination of
> tealights, lightpainting and the built in flash I managed a decent
> panorama.
>
> The location I am now contemplating presents an even more difficult
> lighting challenge. Some surfaces are very close(1m[3 feet] or less),
> while others are essentially at infinity. There is nowhere to place
> tealights or the like. There is a fair amount of water vapor in the
> air, which will more than likely negate the use of the built in flash.
> This will make getting even exposures difficult(kit lens, I have to
> take 38 shots), to say the least.
>
> Does anyone have any advice or suggestions for lighting? Any tips or
> tricks are welcome also.
>
> If it makes any difference I am going to be shooting from the "middle"
> of a waterfall(I hope, I may have to shoot from the top or bottom of
> the falls). I will also have to carry whatever I am going to use for
> lighting by hand for an extended distance(400-500m) while stooped
> over, so weight will be an issue.
>
> Thanks in advance
> K
>

On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:26 PM, AYRTON wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Ken Warner
> <kwarner000@...> wrote:
>
> > http://bbayles.googlepages.com/antivundo.html
> >
> > Firefox cannot load certain web sites (Vundo trojan)
>
> Jesus Christ
> Easier,
> Just
> GET A MAC :-)
>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> ------------
> | A Y R |
> | T O N |
> ------------

Don't get complacent, Ayrton.  My Mac got a Trojan a few months
back.  Fortunately, it didn't do anything really nasty, but it very
well could have using the exact same mechanism.  With this one, any
misspelled URL gave me some "this page can not be found" window; the
strange thing is that it looked like and SAID Internet Explorer for
Windows on the page.  I didn't know whether to freak out or laugh.
Someone with motivation could have made it go to a spoof Paypal or
banking site instead of the real one when I tried to visit those.  A
quick Google and I knew how to remove it.  I still am not sure how I
got it on there.  I know they method used by those (the old fake
codec scam), but don't remember ever letting one of those run an
installer (which requires an administrator password.)  I wondered if
someone else in the house did it.

Take care,

John


John Riley
johnriley@...
jriley@...




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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM, John Riley <johnriley@...> wrote:

> Don't get complacent, Ayrton.  My Mac got a Trojan a few months
> back.  Fortunately, it didn't do anything really nasty, but it very
> well could have using the exact same mechanism.  With this one, any
> misspelled URL gave me some "this page can not be found" window; the
> strange thing is that it looked like and SAID Internet Explorer for
> Windows on the page.  I didn't know whether to freak out or laugh.
> Someone with motivation could have made it go to a spoof Paypal or
> banking site instead of the real one when I tried to visit those.  A
> quick Google and I knew how to remove it.  I still am not sure how I
> got it on there.  I know they method used by those (the old fake
> codec scam), but don't remember ever letting one of those run an
> installer (which requires an administrator password.)  I wondered if
> someone else in the house did it.


Probably yes :-)

best regards
AYRTON



>
>
> Take care,
>
> John
>
>
> John Riley
> johnriley@...
> jriley@...
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


--
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| A Y R |
| T O N |
------------

+ 55 21 9982 6313

http://ayrton360.com
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Would you mind elaborating on what you searched for on google to handle this?
K

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, John Riley <johnriley@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:26 PM, AYRTON wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Ken Warner
> > <kwarner000@...> wrote:
> >
> > > http://bbayles.googlepages.com/antivundo.html
> > >
> > > Firefox cannot load certain web sites (Vundo trojan)
> >
> > Jesus Christ
> > Easier,
> > Just
> > GET A MAC :-)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ------------
> > | A Y R |
> > | T O N |
> > ------------
>
> Don't get complacent, Ayrton.  My Mac got a Trojan a few months
> back.  Fortunately, it didn't do anything really nasty, but it very
> well could have using the exact same mechanism.  With this one, any
> misspelled URL gave me some "this page can not be found" window; the
> strange thing is that it looked like and SAID Internet Explorer for
> Windows on the page.  I didn't know whether to freak out or laugh.
> Someone with motivation could have made it go to a spoof Paypal or
> banking site instead of the real one when I tried to visit those.  A
> quick Google and I knew how to remove it.  I still am not sure how I
> got it on there.  I know they method used by those (the old fake
> codec scam), but don't remember ever letting one of those run an
> installer (which requires an administrator password.)  I wondered if
> someone else in the house did it.
>
> Take care,
>
> John
>
>
> John Riley
> johnriley@...
> jriley@...
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Sorry, should've been more specific, I find nothing about this on a mac?
K
> > Don't get complacent, Ayrton.  My Mac got a Trojan a few months
> > back.

Japanese artist, Yayoi Kusama, builds rooms with mirrors on all sides, "Infinity
Rooms". For panoramas  the problem, of course, is a million reflections of the
camera and tripod. So after thinking on this for a while -- I gave up -- and
decided that the next best thing was to replace the tripod with a single pole,
screwed into a heavy base (a Benbo monopod). And the shot does look cleaner I
think than it would with a tripod. I am outside the room firing the shutter
remotely.

http://www.mediavr.com/infinityroom1.htm

Peter Murphy

You could camouflage the monopod and stand a bit.  You could roughly
mimic the predominant texture in the room and paint or wrap the monopod
and camera in it.  If it's about the same luminance, it would be even
less noticeable.

panovrx wrote:
> Japanese artist, Yayoi Kusama, builds rooms with mirrors on all sides,
"Infinity Rooms". For panoramas  the problem, of course, is a million
reflections of the camera and tripod. So after thinking on this for a while -- I
gave up -- and decided that the next best thing was to replace the tripod with a
single pole, screwed into a heavy base (a Benbo monopod). And the shot does look
cleaner I think than it would with a tripod. I am outside the room firing the
shutter remotely.
>
> http://www.mediavr.com/infinityroom1.htm
>
> Peter Murphy
>
>

On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:41:46 +0900, Tiago Gimenes <gimenes@...>
wrote:

>
> Hi Roger,
>
> Thanks for your reply. The Flow List is free even for commercial use,
> because the author is not supporting this anymore (this is
> ActionScript2), he is working now only on the new version of it, in
> Actionscript3.

Thanks. Actually I found the prices on the top page... I should  have
looked there first!

I was able to visit your test site, but the list under "unidades" did not
work at all. Nothing happened, no change.

> About my links the problem of the second link is that Yahoo groups limit
> the size of the link, so it is here again: Serido 106
> <http://www.sferica.com.br/temporario/klabin/serido/index_eng.html>
>
> And I did not solved the problem., whe you click on UNIDADES, choose
> PERDIZES. Then you will go to another unit of the restaurant of my
> client. The Thumb gallery, should be reloaded to a new gallery with
> different thumbs, but the thumbs disapear... Try to see it again:
> http://www.sferica.com.br/teste/linked/
> <http://www.sferica.com.br/teste/linked/>
>
> If you can help me (or anybody else) I would be very grateful.

I am definitely not the person to help you. I am only taking my first
fumbling steps in Flash...

Sorry!

Roger W.

> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger D. Williams" <roger@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:57:14 +0900, Tiago Gimenes gimenes@...
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > I saw that lots of people wants to use a free Thumbnail Gallery,
> like
>> > a MAC OS Dock Menu or iTunes Menu. I am using Flow List (
>> > http://www.afcomponents.com/components/flow_list/ ). It is very
>> > simple to use, just create a FLA and put the links of the panos on
>> > the Component Inspector. You can see it in use on
>> > www.sferica.com.br/temporario/foz (click on MAIS FOTOS on right top
>> > corner) ou http://www.sferica.com.br/temporario...index_eng.html
>> > (click on PHOTOS).
>> > If you have any doubt, ask me, I may help you how to implement it on
>> > your FPP panos.
>>
>> Thank you for this. I followed the link to Flow List, but coudln't
> find
>> the price. Is it free for personal use? And how much does it cost for
>> commercial use? (and for personal use if NOT free?)
>>
>> I couldn't follow the link to your site, it caused a 404 "not found"
>> error.
>>
>> I could follow the link to your test page, and the JPGs did not
>> disappear. There seemed to be no problem. Perhaps you have solved it
>> since you wrote.
>>
>> Roger W.
>>
>> --
>> Work: www.adex-japan.com
>>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>



--
Work: www.adex-japan.com

If you still wish to look for flashlights you may Google for Surefire and Fenix.

Cheers
Jürgen

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "klroost" <etterz@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the replies everyone.
> I think I am going to try to find some of the caylume lights sticks in an
appropriate color and use them to highlight the structural outlines, then just
go at it with light painting. There just aren't any places to hide extra light
sources such as lanterns. I tried to find that 900lumen flashlight, but it is
not imported into the states by the vendor.
> thanks again
> K
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "klroost" <etterz@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a location I am going to shoot a pano in, the location is
> > underground. I have shot panos in the underground environment before,
> > specifically in an abandoned gypsum mine. That location was
> > challenging, but it was not that bad. I had places for tealights, the
> > surfaces were all at a decent distance. Thru a combination of
> > tealights, lightpainting and the built in flash I managed a decent
> > panorama.
> >
> > The location I am now contemplating presents an even more difficult
> > lighting challenge. Some surfaces are very close(1m[3 feet] or less),
> > while others are essentially at infinity. There is nowhere to place
> > tealights or the like. There is a fair amount of water vapor in the
> > air, which will more than likely negate the use of the built in flash.
> > This will make getting even exposures difficult(kit lens, I have to
> > take 38 shots), to say the least.
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice or suggestions for lighting? Any tips or
> > tricks are welcome also.
> >
> > If it makes any difference I am going to be shooting from the "middle"
> > of a waterfall(I hope, I may have to shoot from the top or bottom of
> > the falls). I will also have to carry whatever I am going to use for
> > lighting by hand for an extended distance(400-500m) while stooped
> > over, so weight will be an issue.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > K
> >
>

You might find the following useful.  With a three position switch,
you can do setup in the low position, and once all are in place, go
around and turn them on high, as needed.   $10 bucks or so, cheap.
They are very lightweight, and take 4 AA batteries, and make for
excellent emergency lighting around the house and vehicle.  I am also
fond of the 18 and 36 volt DeWalt portable rechargeable construction
lights.  They might be good for places too far to reach.

cheers,

Doug

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Very nice panorama, Peter, as usual.
Beyond all technical solutions, I think that only a immersive photograph
like this can give the sense of the art installation, not a
traditional photo.
thanks for sharing

toni

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, John Riley <johnriley@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:26 PM, AYRTON wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Ken Warner
> > <kwarner000@...> wrote:
> >
> > > http://bbayles.googlepages.com/antivundo.html
> > >
> > > Firefox cannot load certain web sites (Vundo trojan)
> >
> > Jesus Christ
> > Easier,
> > Just
> > GET A MAC :-)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ------------
> > | A Y R |
> > | T O N |
> > ------------
>
> Don't get complacent, Ayrton.  My Mac got a Trojan a few months
> back.  Fortunately, it didn't do anything really nasty, but it very
> well could have using the exact same mechanism.  With this one, any
> misspelled URL gave me some "this page can not be found" window; the
> strange thing is that it looked like and SAID Internet Explorer for
> Windows on the page.  I didn't know whether to freak out or laugh.
> Someone with motivation could have made it go to a spoof Paypal or
> banking site instead of the real one when I tried to visit those.  A
> quick Google and I knew how to remove it.  I still am not sure how I
> got it on there.  I know they method used by those (the old fake
> codec scam), but don't remember ever letting one of those run an
> installer (which requires an administrator password.)  I wondered if
> someone else in the house did it.

If you was able to remove it you must also know what it was.

As far as I know there has only been 2 serious Trojans on Mac since the old
autorunCD one back in 1997.

This one which you mentioned
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan_osx_dnschanger.shtml
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/11/mac_trojan

And the very recent on in pirated software
http://www.intego.com/news/ism0902.asp
http://blog.trendmicro.com/mac-trojan-hidden-beneath-pirated-iwork-09/

There was also a rumor last year which looks very serious but as far as I can
see it was just a rumor.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/06/new_trojan_leverages_unpatc\
hed.html

I got my Identity stolen recently and used by a guy to play poker but it was not
stolen from my computer. However I still thought I would do a scan and
downloaded the last Virusbarrier.
It took a whole day to scan all hard discs with files since back in 2000.
I never used any virus software. The only thing it found was 2 old doc files
with Windows Macro virus. I never used Microsoft World so they do not bother me.

There is no doubt that there are Trojans targeting macs but you do not get them
without installing them from pirate software or unknown special software
containing them.

Just never use a plugin or software from an unknown not trusted place.

Hans