http://www.john-law.org.uk/standard/pm/index.html

You may be interested in this pano of an exhibit at the current MA show here at
the art school in Bath. It shows a 'painting machine' which throws paint around
the walls of a closed room. The only way to readily pano it was using a
horizontal pole.

Thanks to the tutorial on http://360texas.com/tips/hpolepano/index.htm I was
able to make something usable.

You see the room from above with participants to the side as usual.
The young artist gazes steadily at his creation while the old artist peers
anxiously at the apparatus wondering if his camera will fall into the plaster
below.

Using a D3 with 10.5 Nikkor on a pole incorporating a 360p head, manfrotto
monopod and some tube left by the plumber, 4 images: up, left, down and right
were taken in a vertical plane. These were then corrected using PTGui and
published using KRPano, two excellent toolkits which get better all the time!


JL

as soon as you come here I'll make you a speedy WashingMachinePano course...
Included retouching, levelling and Shot To Remove Yourself!
;-P

However D3 and 360 P, unless you mean the ring, are a bit too heavy for
these tricks;-P



2009/10/1 panong_jl <mondrian@...>

> http://www.john-law.org.uk/standard/pm/index.html
>
> You may be interested in this pano of an exhibit at the current MA show
> here at the art school in Bath. It shows a 'painting machine' which throws
> paint around the walls of a closed room. The only way to readily pano it was
> using a horizontal pole.
>
> Thanks to the tutorial on http://360texas.com/tips/hpolepano/index.htm I
> was able to make something usable.
>
> You see the room from above with participants to the side as usual.
> The young artist gazes steadily at his creation while the old artist peers
> anxiously at the apparatus wondering if his camera will fall into the
> plaster below.
>
> Using a D3 with 10.5 Nikkor on a pole incorporating a 360p head, manfrotto
> monopod and some tube left by the plumber, 4 images: up, left, down and
> right were taken in a vertical plane. These were then corrected using PTGui
> and published using KRPano, two excellent toolkits which get better all the
> time!
>
>
> JL
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


--
Luca Vascon.

www.canalview.it
www.officinepanottiche.com


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http://gizoogle.com/

:-D




Jeffrey Martin
www.360cities.net - The World in Virtual Reality
tel. +420 608 076 502 / skype jeffrey.s.martin


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Just because a word becomes common parlance, it still might be a trademark.

If you start a company containing the word "xerox" you better expect a call
from xerox lawyers.

(note: "xerox" is synonymous with "photocopy" in the usa)




Jeffrey Martin
www.360cities.net - The World in Virtual Reality
tel. +420 608 076 502 / skype jeffrey.s.martin


  Re: PanoGoogle: the first VR Panorama search engine
>
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/33155;_ylc=X3oDMTJzM2h1ZTRoBF\
9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4MjI3ODQ4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNjQ5NgRtc2dJZAMzMzE1NQRzZW\
MDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjU0MjMzODc5> Posted
> by: "Keith Martin" keith@...
>
<keith@...?Subject=+Re%3A%20PanoGoogle%3A%20the%20first%20VR%20Panorama\
%20search%20engine>  the1keith
> <http://profiles.yahoo.com/the1keith> Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:35 pm (PDT)
>
> Sometime around 28/9/09 (at 22:17 +0000) bohonus said:
>
> >Why do you feel it is necessary to utilize another company's
> >trademark in such an obvious manner?
>
> Personally, I think the phrase "to google something" has been in
> common parlance for quite some time now. Is it important? I mean, to
> people other than Google's lawyers? :-)
>
> k
>


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Luca: when does your course start ??????
I would attend  :)

Ciao
Mike

----------------------------
----------------------------
360? VR Fotografie:
http://www.360de.de

NEU: Abstrakte Fotografie unter:
http://www.abstraktfoto.de
-----------------------------
Aktuelles vom Virtugrafen:
http://virtugraf.wordpress.com
   -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
   Von: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com]Im
Auftrag von luca vascon
   Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2009 12:42
   An: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
   Betreff: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Painting machine pano


     as soon as you come here I'll make you a speedy WashingMachinePano
course...
   Included retouching, levelling and Shot To Remove Yourself!
   ;-P

   However D3 and 360 P, unless you mean the ring, are a bit too heavy for
   these tricks;-P

   2009/10/1 panong_jl <mondrian@...>

   > http://www.john-law.org.uk/standard/pm/index.html
   >
   > You may be interested in this pano of an exhibit at the current MA show
   > here at the art school in Bath. It shows a 'painting machine' which
throws
   > paint around the walls of a closed room. The only way to readily pano it
was
   > using a horizontal pole.
   >
   > Thanks to the tutorial on http://360texas.com/tips/hpolepano/index.htm I
   > was able to make something usable.
   >
   > You see the room from above with participants to the side as usual.
   > The young artist gazes steadily at his creation while the old artist
peers
   > anxiously at the apparatus wondering if his camera will fall into the
   > plaster below.
   >
   > Using a D3 with 10.5 Nikkor on a pole incorporating a 360p head,
manfrotto
   > monopod and some tube left by the plumber, 4 images: up, left, down and
   > right were taken in a vertical plane. These were then corrected using
PTGui
   > and published using KRPano, two excellent toolkits which get better all
the
   > time!
   >
   >
   > JL
   >
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------------
   >
   > --
   >
   >
   >
   >

   --
   Luca Vascon.

   www.canalview.it
   www.officinepanottiche.com

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...except the fact that this
http://www.panoramaphotographer.com/comparisons/ doesn't include krpano
tiled panos, even though I requested it be included there. :(



Jeffrey Martin
www.360cities.net - The World in Virtual Reality
tel. +420 608 076 502 / skype jeffrey.s.martin

  Re: linked time-series of panoramas
>
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/33230;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdHBnbmk1BF\
9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4MjI3ODQ4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNjQ5NgRtc2dJZAMzMzIzMARzZW\
MDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjU0NDA2MzI3> Posted
> by: "Trausti Hraunfjord" trausti.hraunfjord@...
>
<trausti.hraunfjord@...?Subject=+Re%3A%20linked%20time-series%20of%20panor\
amas>  blueslander
> <http://profiles.yahoo.com/blueslander> Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:00 pm (PDT)
>
> It is impossible to draw any conclusion from download times of one or the
> other being better or worse, when the examples are placed on completely
> different servers, different images, different layouts, different
> continents, different... the whole thing. That is why
> http://www.panoramaphotographer.com/comparisons/ is such a darn good
> initiative. Putting all the eggs in one basket... so to speak. It is the
> only fair model of comparing the different players there is. Everything
> else is just "noise" and "opinions".
>
> Trausti
>


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Sometime around 1/10/09 (at 16:26 +0200) Jeffrey Martin | 360Cities.net said:

>even though I requested it be included there. :(

Aww, turn that frown upside down Jeffrey. ;-)

Seriously though, it was and is a good point. The reason it isn't
included in what's there now is because that is supposed to be an 'as
it comes'-style set of comparisons. For the sake of the sanity of the
group helping to get this done, if nothing else!

But yes, now that that's done there are further things that would be
good to show as well.

So...

Tiled content. Which players support this?

k

>Luca wrote:
as soon as you come here I'll make you a speedy WashingMachinePano
course...Included retouching, levelling and Shot To Remove Yourself!

Thanks Luca
Admittedly there is some tidying up to do but had I wanted to orientate the pano
differently I'd have set other values in krp & if I had wanted to remove myself
I could easily have done so!
It was the 360p ring as you guessed.


JL

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Keith Martin <keith@...> wrote:
>
> Sometime around 1/10/09 (at 16:26 +0200) Jeffrey Martin | 360Cities.net said:
>
> >even though I requested it be included there. :(
>
> Aww, turn that frown upside down Jeffrey. ;-)
>
> Seriously though, it was and is a good point. The reason it isn't
> included in what's there now is because that is supposed to be an 'as
> it comes'-style set of comparisons. For the sake of the sanity of the
> group helping to get this done, if nothing else!
>
> But yes, now that that's done there are further things that would be
> good to show as well.
>
> So...
>
> Tiled content. Which players support this?

All flash players does. At least the 4 main ones.
Pano2VR has it as standard option
FPP has it by using tiled QTVR
and KRpano can also do it with QTVR or with tiled cubefaces.

Tiled multiresolutionn  is a completelly different case.

I get back to why that is not always working as it should.

Hans

Japanese artist Tatzu Nishi turns civic monuments into weird interior features
of temporary "rooms"
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/02/tatzu-nishis-weirdly.html

In Sydney currently he has created rooms over two large equestrian statues that
stand outside the state Art Gallery -- you can go up ramps to view the rooms.
http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/current/tatzu_nishi

Here is one of the rooms that I shot as a panorama yesterday
http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/current/tatzu_nishi

Here is another kind of illusional room, a tilted room
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyqEjatCSe0
It would be a good subject for a panorama too I think

Peter M

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:
>
> Japanese artist Tatzu Nishi turns civic monuments into weird interior features
of temporary "rooms"
> http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/02/tatzu-nishis-weirdly.html
>
> In Sydney currently he has created rooms over two large equestrian statues
that stand outside the state Art Gallery -- you can go up ramps to view the
rooms.
> http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/current/tatzu_nishi
>
> Here is one of the rooms that I shot as a panorama yesterday
> http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/current/tatzu_nishi
>
> Here is another kind of illusional room, a tilted room
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyqEjatCSe0
> It would be a good subject for a panorama too I think
>
> Peter M
>
panorama link =
http://www.mediavr.com/warpeace.htm

When I search this list I will only get results starting March 2009 and earlier.
No matter which keyword I enter. How's that? Am I missing something?

Thanks
Jürgen

Thats too good to be true :)
Thanks for sharing.

Jürgen

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:
>
> Japanese artist Tatzu Nishi turns civic monuments into weird interior features
of temporary "rooms"
> http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/02/tatzu-nishis-weirdly.html
>
> In Sydney currently he has created rooms over two large equestrian statues
that stand outside the state Art Gallery -- you can go up ramps to view the
rooms.
> http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/current/tatzu_nishi
>
> Here is one of the rooms that I shot as a panorama yesterday
> http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/current/tatzu_nishi
>
> Here is another kind of illusional room, a tilted room
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyqEjatCSe0
> It would be a good subject for a panorama too I think
>
> Peter M
>

Hallo Luca or JL,

how to remove myself in these kind of Horizontal Panos is exactly my problem!
Appreciate any advice!

sample:
http://tinyurl.com/nvte8j

I would have liked to take this shot by holding the monopod over the cliff and
then retouch myself out of the (horizontal nadir) final Pano!

Cheers

Didi

www.roundshot360.de
didi.lotze@...


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panong_jl" <mondrian@...> wrote:
>
>    >Luca wrote:
> as soon as you come here I'll make you a speedy WashingMachinePano
> course...Included retouching, levelling and Shot To Remove Yourself!
>
> Thanks Luca
> Admittedly there is some tidying up to do but had I wanted to orientate the
pano differently I'd have set other values in krp & if I had wanted to remove
myself I could easily have done so!
> It was the 360p ring as you guessed.
>
>
> JL
>

Recently fortuity led me to this place and I was pretty much surprised to find
my favourite poet buried at this outstanding site, overlooking the valley of the
Rhone in canton Wallis, Switzerland.

So if you ever felt you wanted to cry at the grave of Rainer Maria Rilke, here
you go http://www.360cities.net/image/grab-von-rilke

Enjoy
Jürgen

(Who's still wracking his brain on the inscription)

Mainly aimed at the cinematographer this hack offers advanced exposure
bracketing (only works with Live View and Av and Tv mode, though) and also
automated focus stacking plus some nice features (DOF calculator) for those who
may need it. I am curious if someone here has already tried it.

http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki

Jürgen

As soon as you are here!
:-DD

2009/10/1 ptgroup <ptgroup@...>

> Luca: when does your course start ??????
> I would attend  :)
>
> Ciao
> Mike
>
> ----------------------------
> ----------------------------
> 360? VR Fotografie:
> http://www.360de.de
>
> NEU: Abstrakte Fotografie unter:
> http://www.abstraktfoto.de
> -----------------------------
> Aktuelles vom Virtugrafen:
> http://virtugraf.wordpress.com
>  -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>  Von: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com]Im
> Auftrag von luca vascon
>  Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2009 12:42
>  An: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
>  Betreff: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Painting machine pano
>
>
>    as soon as you come here I'll make you a speedy WashingMachinePano
> course...
>  Included retouching, levelling and Shot To Remove Yourself!
>  ;-P
>
>  However D3 and 360 P, unless you mean the ring, are a bit too heavy for
>  these tricks;-P
>
>  2009/10/1 panong_jl <mondrian@...>
>
>  > http://www.john-law.org.uk/standard/pm/index.html
>  >
>  > You may be interested in this pano of an exhibit at the current MA show
>  > here at the art school in Bath. It shows a 'painting machine' which
> throws
>  > paint around the walls of a closed room. The only way to readily pano it
> was
>  > using a horizontal pole.
>  >
>  > Thanks to the tutorial on http://360texas.com/tips/hpolepano/index.htmI
>  > was able to make something usable.
>  >
>  > You see the room from above with participants to the side as usual.
>  > The young artist gazes steadily at his creation while the old artist
> peers
>  > anxiously at the apparatus wondering if his camera will fall into the
>  > plaster below.
>  >
>  > Using a D3 with 10.5 Nikkor on a pole incorporating a 360p head,
> manfrotto
>  > monopod and some tube left by the plumber, 4 images: up, left, down and
>  > right were taken in a vertical plane. These were then corrected using
> PTGui
>  > and published using KRPano, two excellent toolkits which get better all
> the
>  > time!
>  >
>  >
>  > JL
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------
>  >
>  > --
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>   --
>   Luca Vascon.
>
>  www.canalview.it
>  www.officinepanottiche.com
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


--
Luca Vascon.

www.canalview.it
www.officinepanottiche.com


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Is this an invitation to the upcoming 2009 Panorama Laundry Lagoon Meeting?

-----
Greetings, Thomas -  http://www.thomaskrueger.eu thomaskrueger.eu
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View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/Painting-machine-pano-tp25696333p25712018.html
Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Thinking about upgrading my camera and downsizing the camera bag...

The Leica M9 could be an alternative, if it's possible to mount the shaved
Nikon 10.5 Fisheye. Novoflex offers an adapter for this combination, the
LEM/NIK.
http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/adapters/adapter-finder/

Anybody - Luca Vascon, Andrew Nemeth ?? - has tested such a combination with
one of the older analogue M Leicas like the M7 or M6?



-----
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l
Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

yeeeeeeeeeeees!

2009/10/2 Thomas Krueger <krueger@...>

>
> Is this an invitation to the upcoming 2009 Panorama Laundry Lagoon Meeting?
>
> -----
> Greetings, Thomas -  http://www.thomaskrueger.eu thomaskrueger.eu
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Painting-machine-pano-tp25696333p25712018.html
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


--
Luca Vascon.

www.canalview.it
www.officinepanottiche.com


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I had an M6.
I'm very very very happy do have been able to get rid of it!
:-)

So..
When I saw M8 chart I thought, well, it would be great!!!
Then I saw the thing.
You have to dismantle the camera ass to change SD or battery.

I had the novoflex Contax to Leica.
Worked well.
I still have it.
First M9 I get in my hands will recieve a 16mm Contax Fisheye Distagon to
make a panotry.

2009/10/2 Thomas Krueger <krueger@...>

>
> Thinking about upgrading my camera and downsizing the camera bag...
>
> The Leica M9 could be an alternative, if it's possible to mount the shaved
> Nikon 10.5 Fisheye. Novoflex offers an adapter for this combination, the
> LEM/NIK.
> http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/adapters/adapter-finder/
>
> Anybody - Luca Vascon, Andrew Nemeth ?? - has tested such a combination
> with
> one of the older analogue M Leicas like the M7 or M6?
>
>
>
> -----
> Greetings, Thomas -  http://www.thomaskrueger.eu thomaskrueger.eu
> --
> View this message in context:
>
http://www.nabble.com/Leica-M9-%2B-Nikon-10.5-Fisheye----tp25711995p25711995.htm\
l
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


--
Luca Vascon.

www.canalview.it
www.officinepanottiche.com


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jrgen_schrader wrote:

> Mainly aimed at the cinematographer this hack offers advanced exposure
> bracketing (only works with Live View and Av and Tv mode, though) and
> also automated focus stacking plus some nice features (DOF calculator)
> for those who may need it. I am curious if someone here has already
> tried it.

Not yet. I'll wait until bracketing works in M, too. It's pretty useless
for panoramas in Tv or Av...

The firmware hack was mentioned here a few times:
http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?forum=15658&local=y&query=Magic+Lantern

best regards
--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

Honey, the horse is stealing all the sheets - again...  :o)

Great pano!

Mark
www.northernlight.net
www.pinnacle-vr.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of panovrx
>Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:52 PM
>To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Illusional rooms
>
>
>
>--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:
>>
>> Japanese artist Tatzu Nishi turns civic monuments into weird interior
>features of temporary "rooms"
>> http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/02/tatzu-nishis-weirdly.html
>>
>> In Sydney currently he has created rooms over two large equestrian
>statues that stand outside the state Art Gallery -- you can go up ramps to
>view the rooms.
>> http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/current/tatzu_nishi
>>
>> Here is one of the rooms that I shot as a panorama yesterday
>> http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/current/tatzu_nishi
>>
>> Here is another kind of illusional room, a tilted room
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyqEjatCSe0
>> It would be a good subject for a panorama too I think
>>
>> Peter M
>>
>panorama link =
>http://www.mediavr.com/warpeace.htm
>

ni image at this link?

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, jrgen_schrader <panorama@...> wrote:

From: jrgen_schrader <panorama@...>
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Here's one for the romantics
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 12:44 AM






 





                   Recently fortuity led me to this place and I was pretty much
surprised to find my favourite poet buried at this outstanding site, overlooking
the valley of the Rhone in canton Wallis, Switzerland.



So if you ever felt you wanted to cry at the grave of Rainer Maria Rilke, here
you go http://www.360citie s.net/image/ grab-von- rilke



Enjoy

Jürgen



(Who's still wracking his brain on the inscription)































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I suspect a flaw in Yahoo's database updates...

As an alternative you can use <http://www.panotools.org/mailarchive>.
When you visit that page you can also add that mail archive to Firefox'
list of search engines (this also works with Camino).

Carl

Posted by: "jrgen_schrader"
>
> When I search this list I will only get results starting March
> 2009 and earlier. No matter which keyword I enter. How's that?
> Am I missing something?

My "Zeiss Ikon SW" body has the same Leica M bayonet. If I had a shaved
10.5 (instead i "only" have a 8mm Nikkor) I could visit Novoflex in
Memmingen to try out that adapter. That would be a fun project.
Only who in southern Germany has a shaved 10.5?

Carl

Posted by: "Thomas Krueger"
>
> Thinking about upgrading my camera and downsizing the camera bag...
>
> The Leica M9 could be an alternative, if it's possible to mount the shaved
> Nikon 10.5 Fisheye. Novoflex offers an adapter for this combination, the
> LEM/NIK.
> http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/adapters/adapter-finder/
>
> Anybody - Luca Vascon, Andrew Nemeth ?? - has tested such a combination with
> one of the older analogue M Leicas like the M7 or M6?

i just posted some recent panos taken at "Lightborne Productions." They
specialize in post production of videos, mostly music videos. Anyway what is
interesting is their facility. In an old industrial building, they have created
something that looks like it came out of the book "Dinotopia" or maybe "Myst".
It is kinda post industrial with over size doors and other unusual features such
as green fluorescent lights that illuminate the mechanical systems behind glass
walls. My favorite feature is the strange "dinosaur" spine concrete stairway
that I tried to highlight in one of the panos. If you are interested take a look
here: <http://rackphoto.com/pp/lightborne/>

ronrack

Carl von Einem wrote:

> That would be a fun project.
> Only who in southern Germany has a shaved 10.5?

Take an unshaved one. You see the lens shade in the image, but for a
test it should suffice...

best regards
--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

Down sizing your cash pile also eh\ :-?

Thomas Krueger wrote:
> Thinking about upgrading my camera and downsizing the camera bag...
>
> The Leica M9 could be an alternative,

Is Venice southern Germany, as Munchen is northern Italy?!
:-D

2009/10/2 Carl von Einem <einem@...>

> My "Zeiss Ikon SW" body has the same Leica M bayonet. If I had a shaved
> 10.5 (instead i "only" have a 8mm Nikkor) I could visit Novoflex in
> Memmingen to try out that adapter. That would be a fun project.
> Only who in southern Germany has a shaved 10.5?
>
> Carl
>
> Posted by: "Thomas Krueger"
> >
> > Thinking about upgrading my camera and downsizing the camera bag...
> >
> > The Leica M9 could be an alternative, if it's possible to mount the
> shaved
> > Nikon 10.5 Fisheye. Novoflex offers an adapter for this combination, the
> > LEM/NIK.
> > http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/adapters/adapter-finder/
> >
> > Anybody - Luca Vascon, Andrew Nemeth ?? - has tested such a combination
> with
> > one of the older analogue M Leicas like the M7 or M6?
>
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Luca Vascon.

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