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#34229 From: "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 5:11 pm
Subject: Sonepur Mela Elephants
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The elephants moving around is no problem, the big problem is the Nadir where
the 4 images come together. In this case the Nadir center is where my hands are
and there's people moving all around me. You have to be fast, 4 shots in about 3
seconds and sometimes a little Photoshop work to fix it like in this one.
http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/elephants3.html

Roger Berry
IndiaVRtours.com



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "needakeeper" <virtualpointphotos@...>
wrote:
>
> I almost asked if it was magic!
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Quentin Desouza <quentin@> wrote:
> >
> > I really think that Roger is a magician!!
> > I cant imagine how he took four photos either!!
> > He is truly an artist.
> > Quentin.
> >

#34228 From: Paul Fretheim <paul@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 5:03 pm
Subject: Re:Photoshop 64bit Windows
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http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?loc=en&product=photoshop

Available today, November 9, 2009.  64 bit is a function of what system
you are using.  If you run that demo on the appropriate platform it will
install as 64 bit.  Be sure to update the driver on your video card to
the latest version.  The newer builds get more and more compatible with
my Nvidia, and I keep updating the drivers too.  There are still a few
bugs, but the most annoying ones, like the slow clone tool, seem to have
been identified and fixed.

Paul Fretheim

>
>     Photoshop 64bit Windows
>    
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9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4MjI3ODQ4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNjQ5NgRtc2dJZAMzNDE4OQRzZW\
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>       Posted by: "Jim Watters" jwatters@...
>      
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>         j1vvy <http://profiles.yahoo.com/j1vvy>
>
>
>         Sat Nov 7, 2009 9:02 pm (PST)
>
>
>
> Is there someone with a 64bit version of Photoshop that is willing to
> test a plugin for me?
>
> I was going to grab the trial version but it is not available right
> now. :(
>
> --
> Jim Watters
> http://photocreations.ca <http://photocreations.ca>

#34227 From: luca vascon <luca.vascon@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: tripod replacement advice
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Yep, consider cheap and sturdy 055 classic, you would not be SO
pleased from the X version, quality of project is not as good as the
old one... or the  Velbon pro magfiber (around that price, 250euro)
Feisol ones are also good value for money.
Personally I prefer sturdiness to lightness.
My main one is a wooden Berlebach.
And the "final tripod" is something like Satchler or Cartoni. Video,
centerball sturdy, rigid and vibration killing.
Lot of well spent money.


2009/11/9 fredrik977 <f.infanti@...>:
> hi to all
> i need to replace a manfrotto 755B MdeVe tripod, and i was considering about
buying a new one (same model) or one of the manfrotto 055 family: my needs are
sturdiness (for panos), long central column and a height around 180 centimeters
+ central column.
> Any advice? Please consider my maximum budget, 250 euros, so i can't buy
magfibers, etc.
> thanks in advance
> f.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>



--
Luca Vascon.

www.canalview.it
www.officinepanottiche.com

#34226 From: "needakeeper" <virtualpointphotos@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:43 pm
Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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I almost asked if it was magic!

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Quentin Desouza <quentin@...> wrote:
>
> I really think that Roger is a magician!!
> I cant imagine how he took four photos either!!
> He is truly an artist.
> Quentin.
>
>
> needakeeper wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Dadgum-I need to be wearing contacts all the time these days. Thanks
> > for pointing that out, Quentin!
> >
> > Roger-Can you tell us how you got that perspective from your position
> > on the side? I can see how it would work if you only had to take one
> > photo, but you have to be able to rotate your camera and do so quickly
> > before the elephants clear out of there.
> >
> > Stephani
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, Quentin Desouza <quentin@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think at the edge of the water.
> > > In a white hat without hands :)
> > > Quentin.
> > >
> > >
> > > needakeeper wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are you standing in between the elephants? Do you use a wired or
> > > > wireless remote?
> > > >
> > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Close-up view showing some of the carvings at the Khajuraho Sex
> > Temple
> > > > > http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
> > <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html>
> > > > <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
> > <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html>>
> > > > >
> > > > > btw you can't take a camera stand, monopod or pole in to this
> > temple
> > > > complex, but a walking stick is allowed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger Berry
> > > > > IndiaVRtours.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#34225 From: Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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Yes it is the Varanasi burning Ghat one,
http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/Varanasi4.html
Must be a mistake in the linking of the flash file.
Quentin.


afrenyo wrote:

>
>
>
> selecting LQ (low quality) loads an entirely different panorama
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Close-up view showing some of the carvings at the Khajuraho Sex Temple
> > http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
> <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html>
> >
> > btw you can't take a camera stand, monopod or pole in to this temple
> complex, but a walking stick is allowed.
> >
> > Roger Berry
> > IndiaVRtours.com
> >
>
>



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#34224 From: Eduardo Hutter <montreal360@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: Re: yet another 30 handhelded panos - also on panoguide
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This is a *VERY* good point indeed and I hadn't thought of it this way.
Thanks for the insight. :)

Someone said something a couple of weeks ago about panoramas being "the
future of photojournalism". Not going to happen.  VRs are a great way to
register and display news events but can't just simply replace
conventional photojournalism because they are a set of different moments
put together and, above all, *EDITED*.

A couple of weeks ago I did a pano of a protest in Montreal
(http://tinyurl.com/yztg9ya, Flash for sound), riot police and all. I
particularly like that one. The problem with it as with any other
journalistic pano is that you can't trust it as a representation of a
fact on a particular moment because it was edited. I erased people,
"rebuilt" other, for two times I had to choose which policeman would
appear on a specific place because they were doubled, and changed
someone's cloths colors also because he was doubled. I did another one -
not published - which I had to "borrow" one picture from another set to
fill in for a missing one due to bad turning of the pole.

As far as I'm concerned, from a strictly journalistic point of view like
Andras said, a pano can't be considered as a document *TRUE*  to a fact
or a moment and that's why Dorin's technique could be an alternative for
that.

cheers,

E

* afrenyo wrote, On 09/11/2009 10:05 AM:

>  However, from a strictly journalistic point of view, having unaltered
>  images, each time stamped (and possibly geo-referenced) -in a pretty
>  enjoyable panoramaic view -may have a place where panoramas otherwise
>  wouldn't go. One tends to be much more forgiving when looking at
>  photos for reporting an event, where quality may become a distant
>  second to having an image at all.

#34223 From: Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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I really think that Roger is a magician!!
I cant imagine how he took four photos either!!
He is truly an artist.
Quentin.


needakeeper wrote:

>
>
> Dadgum-I need to be wearing contacts all the time these days. Thanks
> for pointing that out, Quentin!
>
> Roger-Can you tell us how you got that perspective from your position
> on the side? I can see how it would work if you only had to take one
> photo, but you have to be able to rotate your camera and do so quickly
> before the elephants clear out of there.
>
> Stephani
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think at the edge of the water.
> > In a white hat without hands :)
> > Quentin.
> >
> >
> > needakeeper wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you standing in between the elephants? Do you use a wired or
> > > wireless remote?
> > >
> > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Close-up view showing some of the carvings at the Khajuraho Sex
> Temple
> > > > http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
> <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html>
> > > <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
> <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html>>
> > > >
> > > > btw you can't take a camera stand, monopod or pole in to this
> temple
> > > complex, but a walking stick is allowed.
> > > >
> > > > Roger Berry
> > > > IndiaVRtours.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>



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#34222 From: "afrenyo" <andras@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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selecting LQ (low quality) loads an entirely different panorama


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...> wrote:
>
> Close-up view showing some of the carvings at the Khajuraho Sex Temple
> http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
>
> btw you can't take a camera stand, monopod or pole in to this temple complex,
but a walking stick is allowed.
>
> Roger Berry
> IndiaVRtours.com
>

#34221 From: "needakeeper" <virtualpointphotos@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:08 pm
Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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Dadgum-I need to be wearing contacts all the time these days. Thanks for
pointing that out, Quentin!

Roger-Can you tell us how you got that perspective from your position on the
side?  I can see how it would work if you only had to take one photo, but you
have to be able to rotate your camera and do so quickly before the elephants
clear out of there.

Stephani

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Quentin Desouza <quentin@...> wrote:
>
> I think at the edge of the water.
> In a white hat without hands :)
> Quentin.
>
>
> needakeeper wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Are you standing in between the elephants? Do you use a wired or
> > wireless remote?
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Close-up view showing some of the carvings at the Khajuraho Sex Temple
> > > http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
> > <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html>
> > >
> > > btw you can't take a camera stand, monopod or pole in to this temple
> > complex, but a walking stick is allowed.
> > >
> > > Roger Berry
> > > IndiaVRtours.com
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#34220 From: "fredrik977" <f.infanti@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:01 pm
Subject: tripod replacement advice
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hi to all
i need to replace a manfrotto 755B MdeVe tripod, and i was considering about
buying a new one (same model) or one of the manfrotto 055 family: my needs are
sturdiness (for panos), long central column and a height around 180 centimeters
+ central column.
Any advice? Please consider my maximum budget, 250 euros, so i can't buy
magfibers, etc.
thanks in advance
f.

#34219 From: Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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I think at the edge of the water.
In a white hat without hands :)
Quentin.


needakeeper wrote:

>
>
> Are you standing in between the elephants? Do you use a wired or
> wireless remote?
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Close-up view showing some of the carvings at the Khajuraho Sex Temple
> > http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
> <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html>
> >
> > btw you can't take a camera stand, monopod or pole in to this temple
> complex, but a walking stick is allowed.
> >
> > Roger Berry
> > IndiaVRtours.com
> >
>
>



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#34218 From: Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: Sonepur Mela
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This is really fabulous!!
I cant understand how you  managed to eliminate the pole and its shadow!!
A part of your hands seem to have disappeared too :)
Thanks
Quentin Desouza.


onezebra1 wrote:

>
>
> Then you should really enjoy viewing this pano from the Sonepur Mela.
> This is a good example of what can be done with a pole to put the
> camera where you want it.
> http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sonepur_elephant3.html
> <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sonepur_elephant3.html>
>
> The Sonepur Mela is famous for its cattle fair, held in Sonepur, in
> northern Bihar on the banks of the River Ganga. It is one of the
> biggest cattle fair in Asia. The full moon day of the month of Kartik,
> that is, November is regarded as one of the most favorable days for
> the Hindus. The Sonepur Mela has an exclusive and historical importance.
>
> Roger Berry
> IndiaVRtours.com
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger,
> > Your work is really outstanding.
> > Since I am an Indian I truly appreciate what you are doing for my
> country.
> > Regards,
> > Quentin.
> >
>
>



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#34217 From: "needakeeper" <virtualpointphotos@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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Are you standing in between the elephants?  Do you use a wired or wireless
remote?





--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...> wrote:
>
> Close-up view showing some of the carvings at the Khajuraho Sex Temple
> http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sex_temple3.html
>
> btw you can't take a camera stand, monopod or pole in to this temple complex,
but a walking stick is allowed.
>
> Roger Berry
> IndiaVRtours.com
>

#34216 From: "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:11 pm
Subject: Sonepur Mela
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Then you should really enjoy viewing this pano from the Sonepur Mela.
This is a good example of what can be done with a pole to put the camera where
you want it.
http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/sonepur_elephant3.html

The Sonepur Mela is famous for its cattle fair, held in Sonepur, in northern
Bihar on the banks of the River Ganga. It is one of the biggest cattle fair in
Asia. The full moon day of the month of Kartik, that is, November is regarded as
one of the most favorable days for the Hindus. The Sonepur Mela has an exclusive
and historical importance.

Roger Berry
IndiaVRtours.com


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Quentin Desouza <quentin@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger,
> Your work is really outstanding.
> Since I am an Indian I truly appreciate what you are doing for my country.
> Regards,
> Quentin.
>

#34215 From: Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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Thanks Roger,
Your work is really outstanding.
Since I am an Indian I truly appreciate what you are doing for my country.
Regards,
Quentin.


onezebra1 wrote:

>
>
> Often shooting handheld is the only way allowed in many of the places
> I go.
> With my full frame camera and a Nikon 10.5mm fisheye I loosely loop a
> thread in the small gap near the front of the lens.
> With a small weight on the other end of the thread you set this over a
> mark, maybe a small rock, bird droppings or whatever you can find.
> Rotating the camera around this center point keeps all 4 shots
> centered and the height constant.
> Normally I shoot around 5 feet high with this setup so that I can see
> my bullseye level on the camera, but sometimes I will hold the camera
> overhead for those high up shots and just try to keep the camera as
> level as possible.
>
> Roger Berry
> IndiaVRtours.com
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Roger,
> > How do you manage to keep the camera rotating exactly if it is tied
> only
> > with a string?
> > Do you mean that you did not use your pole and pano head?
> > Regards,
> > Quentin.
> >
>
>



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#34214 From: "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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Often shooting handheld is the only way allowed in many of the places I go.
With my full frame camera and a Nikon 10.5mm fisheye I loosely loop a thread in
the small gap near the front of the lens.
With a small weight on the other end of the thread you set this over a mark,
maybe a small rock, bird droppings or whatever you can find. Rotating the camera
around this center point keeps all 4 shots centered and the height constant.
Normally I shoot around 5 feet high with this setup so that I can see my
bullseye level on the camera, but sometimes I will hold the camera overhead for
those high up shots and just try to keep the camera as level as possible.

Roger Berry
IndiaVRtours.com


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Quentin Desouza <quentin@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Roger,
> How do you manage to keep the camera rotating exactly if it is tied only
> with a string?
> Do you mean that you did not use your pole and pano head?
> Regards,
> Quentin.
>

#34213 From: "afrenyo" <andras@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: yet another 30 handhelded panos - also on panoguide
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Hey Hans,

While displaying panoramas this way is definitely a step back in many regards,
in others I do see merit.  You are not the only one who would argue that this
sort of 'playback' should be limited to previsualization purposes only.  I also
agree, that the speed of getting the images from camera to web is not the most
important gain here, although could be useful at times.

However, from a strictly journalistic point of view, having unaltered images,
each time stamped (and possibly geo-referenced) -in a pretty enjoyable
panoramaic view -may have a place where panoramas otherwise wouldn't go.  One
tends to be much more forgiving when looking at photos for reporting an event,
where quality may become a distant second to having an image at all.

I am merely arguing the potential of the technique which is wasted here, I would
venture to say.

To further play the devil's advocate:
Look at Jook's pano on the top of your site right now, it has serious stitching
errors, yet it captures a good moment - is it really that different then from a
stitchless display?

-andras



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans" <hans@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "dorindxn" <Dorin@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, this is another serie of handleded panos, stitchless kind,
> > posted here for those who are interested in this technique.
> > Was taken with Sigma 8mm 3.5 on Canon 350D the crop up/down is due to the
fact I don't have a fullframe.
> >
> > http://www.livepanoramas.com/event/sinpro/
> >
>
>
> So whats the LIVE in it,
> This is 2 days ago.
>
> Must say that at a time when my 3 year old MacBook Pro can stitch a 6+1 an
8000x4000 pixels pano automatically  in 2 minutes using PTGui I can not really
see the idea.
>
> Hans
>

#34212 From: Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: yet another 30 handhelded panos - also on panoguide
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Hi Dorin,
What is the technique that you use to create these panoramas at this
exceptional speed?
Regards,
Quentin

dorindxn wrote:

>
>
> Hi, this is another serie of handleded panos, stitchless kind,
> posted here for those who are interested in this technique.
> Was taken with Sigma 8mm 3.5 on Canon 350D the crop up/down is due to
> the fact I don't have a fullframe.
>
> http://www.livepanoramas.com/event/sinpro/
> <http://www.livepanoramas.com/event/sinpro/>
>
> cheers,
> Dorin
>
>



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#34211 From: "dorindxn" <Dorin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: yet another 30 handhelded panos - also on panoguide
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Thank you Hans for the interest.

Could be 10 minutes after shoot online with my actual vodafone connection,
however having sometimes shoot 2 panos in one minutes the time dilatation will
accure, unless I upgrade to a higher uploading speed.

cheers,
Dorin


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans" <hans@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "dorindxn" <Dorin@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, this is another serie of handleded panos, stitchless kind,
> > posted here for those who are interested in this technique.
> > Was taken with Sigma 8mm 3.5 on Canon 350D the crop up/down is due to the
fact I don't have a fullframe.
> >
> > http://www.livepanoramas.com/event/sinpro/
> >
>
>
> So whats the LIVE in it,
> This is 2 days ago.
>
> Must say that at a time when my 3 year old MacBook Pro can stitch a 6+1 an
8000x4000 pixels pano automatically  in 2 minutes using PTGui I can not really
see the idea.
>
> Hans
>

#34210 From: "Hans" <hans@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: yet another 30 handhelded panos - also on panoguide
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "dorindxn" <Dorin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, this is another serie of handleded panos, stitchless kind,
> posted here for those who are interested in this technique.
> Was taken with Sigma 8mm 3.5 on Canon 350D the crop up/down is due to the fact
I don't have a fullframe.
>
> http://www.livepanoramas.com/event/sinpro/
>


So whats the LIVE in it,
This is 2 days ago.

Must say that at a time when my 3 year old MacBook Pro can stitch a 6+1 an
8000x4000 pixels pano automatically  in 2 minutes using PTGui I can not really
see the idea.

Hans

#34209 From: "dorindxn" <Dorin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 12:26 pm
Subject: yet another 30 handhelded panos - also on panoguide
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Hi, this is another serie of handleded panos, stitchless kind,
posted here for those who are interested in this technique.
Was taken with Sigma 8mm 3.5 on Canon 350D the crop up/down is due to the fact I
don't have a fullframe.

http://www.livepanoramas.com/event/sinpro/

cheers,
Dorin

#34208 From: Andras Frenyo <andras@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 6:40 am
Subject: 10 vs. 16
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hello there,

i hope some may find my comparison shoot results useful . . .

i shoot a lot of action panoramas, and for those i tend to use my
homemade head which is a simple L shaped aluminum bracket i set up for
my canon 5d and the nikkor 10.5.  one piece. no moving parts,
virtually no weight, and (cargo) pocket sized. i recently modified it,
adding the ability to quickly do a zenith shot, without having to
remove the camera, while maintaining nodal as best as possible, in
case somebody's watching (otherwise, i find leveling and nodal point
retention overrated for most of my purposes; i rarely take an upshot
when in the middle of a crowd, even less likely the chance if i hand
hold my rig, but you never know.)

i also like to use my nikkor 16mm for the added resolution, but the
zenith and nadir shots are unavoidable whith that lens.

suspecting that the nodals are quite close on the two lenses,  i shot
two panoramas with only altering the lens and the number of shots.  it
was getting dark, and i chose a spot for the test hastily, allowing
for few to no reference points for the zenith shot for the 16mm
series.  this is evident from the resulting panorama which i left
untouched.

   i used a monopod, which is not possible to level (nor was it) and
admittedly there was some swinging action for good measure - i.e. the
monopod does/did not stay straight throughout the photo process as a
tripod tends to.  also, i added a rotator to the mix, because i am not
very practiced at shooting 6 images around.

my conclusion
pro: having the two prime lenses with a super compact setup, needing
only to swap the glass on the camera, i can reliably shoot panoramas
of varying resolution, action or architecture - ideal when walking the
city without a bag.
con: no template stitching.  bracketing may require extra post
processing time.

still, i would not trade my adjuste giga for anything ;^)

for this test i used ptgui v8.02pro:

16mm
1. shot 6 around and 1 up, 1 down
2. stitched all horizontal and zenith images (jpg) with 'auto' control
points
3. added the offset downshot (masked tif) using view point correction
4. stitched directly to .mov

10.5mm
1. shot 4 around, 1 down
2. stitched all horizontal images (jpg) with manual control points (4
sets/image pair)
3. added the offset downshot (masked tif) using viewpoint correction
4. stitched directly to .mov

the panoramas stitched fairly well:
(1) the 16mm pano has a slight misalignment in the zenith area, for
lack of reference points between the neighboring images involved at
that seam
qtvr: http://www.panoramablog.com/10vs16/16.mov
jpg/tif/pts: http://www.panoramablog.com/10vs16/16.zip [80MB] - will
remove at 12pm EST 11/09/09

(2) the 10mm pano has a bit of the monopod left in it, as i did not
step back far enough for the nadir photo, and shows some imperfection
toward at zenith, mostly due to the fact that i shot the images with
the camera set more or less at 0 degrees vs. tilting it up slightly.
clearly, both issues are  completely avoidable.
qtvr: http://www.panoramablog.com/10vs16/10.mov
jpg/tif/pts: http://www.panoramablog.com/10vs16/10.zip [40MB]  - will
remove at 12pm EST 11/09/09

-andras
http://www.panoramablog.com

#34207 From: Quentin Desouza <quentin@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:46 am
Subject: Re: Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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Hello Roger,
How do you manage to keep the camera rotating exactly if it is tied only
with a string?
Do you mean that you did not use your pole and pano head?
Regards,
Quentin.


onezebra1 wrote:

>
>
> In the Khajuraho temple complex I only used the pole in 2 places where
> the security guards could not see me.
> This one with the horse was done with a small thread put loosely
> around the end of the lens and a brass key used like a plumb bob level
> near the ground. The camera was held up about 7 feet high to be more
> inline with the carvings.
>
> Roger Berry
> IndiaVRtours.com
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:
> >
> > Very good parallax control for a pole in a tight space -- no pun
> intended...
> >
> > onezebra1 wrote:
> > > The Lakshmana temple. Some of the most famous sexual sculptures
> are on this temple, also - there are many groping couples, a few
> orgies, and on the frieze at the bottom of the plinth, a man having
> sex with a horse while women look on in shock.
> > > http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/horsey3.html
> <http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/horsey3.html>
> > >
> > > Roger Berry
> > > IndiaVRtours.com
>
>



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#34206 From: "Drew" <drew@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:24 am
Subject: Hurricane Ike Panoramas
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With Hurricane Ida bearing down on the Gulf Coast, I have posted a series of
panos on my blog from a year ago when I was photographing in the natural areas
of the Upper Texas Coast a month after Hurricane Ike made landfall in Galveston,
Texas.  These natural areas are extremely important locations for migratory
birds and one of the nation's top locations to witness spring songbird
migration.

These panos were processed using my old workflow and I need to reprocess them
with my current process but don't have the time right now.  Anyway, I thought I
would share.

Having lived through numerous hurricanes while growing up in Florida and living
in Texas for the past few years, I wish my best to all those preparing for Ida
this week.

It struggle to photograph disaster and that is why all of these images were
created about a month after the storm passed.  I made the decision to wait and
stay out of the way of relief and rescue efforts.

Images can be seen here:
http://www.wanderersapprentice.com/hurricane-ike-impact-on-natural-areas.html

Best,
Drew Fulton

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#34205 From: Jim Watters <jwatters@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: Photoshop 64bit Windows
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Jim Watters wrote:
> Is there someone with a 64bit version of Photoshop that is willing to
> test a plugin for me?
>
> I was going to grab the trial version but it is not available right now. :(
Thank you for everyone that sent a private message to help.
The Adobe download site became active again and was able to download myself.

--
Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

#34204 From: "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 10:29 pm
Subject: Re: The Burning Ghats of Varanasi
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Here you can see the sacred fire that has been burning for over 3,500 years.
In the morning its clean up time, removing all of the ash and getting ready for
another busy day.
http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/fire3.html

Roger Berry
IndiaVRtours.com

#34203 From: Raymond Setzer <mczet99@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: mobile panos
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For the iPhone you can use moblvr. It's not an iPhone app. It allows
flash pannos to be displayed on an iPhone.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Robert Fisher <bob@...> wrote:

> Well I just got an iPhone a few weeks ago and I am wanting to put my
> panos onto the phone. I know PangeaVR is good but is there a format
> that works across all cell phones, or most of the smart phones, that
> I could package panos for a client to download and view on their cell
> phones? In the past I had looked a CubeWorld and PangeaVR is there
> anything else out there?
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheers
> Robert Fisher
> VR Photography / Cinematography
> http://www.rcfisher.com
> facebook - Robert C. Fisher
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
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>

#34202 From: "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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In the Khajuraho temple complex I only used the pole in 2 places where the
security guards could not see me.
This one with the horse was done with a small thread put loosely around the end
of the lens and a brass key used like a plumb bob level near the ground. The
camera was held up about 7 feet high to be more inline with the carvings.

Roger Berry
IndiaVRtours.com


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:
>
> Very good parallax control for a pole in a tight space -- no pun intended...
>
> onezebra1 wrote:
> > The Lakshmana temple. Some of the most famous sexual sculptures are on this
temple, also – there are many groping couples, a few orgies, and on the frieze
at the bottom of the plinth, a man having sex with a horse while women look on
in shock.
> > http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/horsey3.html
> >
> > Roger Berry
> > IndiaVRtours.com

#34201 From: Ken Warner <kwarner000@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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Very good parallax control for a pole in a tight space -- no pun intended...

onezebra1 wrote:
> The Lakshmana temple. Some of the most famous sexual sculptures are on this
temple, also – there are many groping couples, a few orgies, and on the frieze
at the bottom of the plinth, a man having sex with a horse while women look on
in shock.
> http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/horsey3.html
>
> Roger Berry
> IndiaVRtours.com
>
>
>
>

#34200 From: "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: Khajuraho Sex Temple
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The Lakshmana temple. Some of the most famous sexual sculptures are on this
temple, also – there are many groping couples, a few orgies, and on the frieze
at the bottom of the plinth, a man having sex with a horse while women look on
in shock.
http://indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/horsey3.html

Roger Berry
IndiaVRtours.com

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