Here's something a little different where I was perched on a large granite rock
with awesome views down a heavily glaciated canyon to Whitney Portal while on
the opposite side is the beautiful Lone Pine Lake. Use the next button to move
over to the lake.  http://www.indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/lone_pine4.html

On 5-31-2010 11:39 PM, 1drey's hamster got loose on the keyboard and
typed ...:
> Jürgen, thank you for praise and for a word of wisdom!
>
> Sleepless nights! exactly :-D
>
> Yes, I plan to hav a close look at the Tokina - still leaning to
> 5DMkII (over Sony - because of better developed Canon's 'system')

You should consider using the 5DII and a Tokina 10-17mm zoomed to 12mm
to fill the sensor top to bottom.

> BTW, here is a fesh pano from 5DMkII+Sigma10:
> http://pano.1drey.com/various/sexton02.html

*Nice* low light-level work but there's something wrong with the pano.
I turned the volume up to 11 and I still can't hear anything.        =8^)

> Cheers,
> Andrey
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@...> wrote:
>>
>> Andrey, my friend, the church pano is really, really outstaning and I
>> completely understand your dilemma. Nonetheless the only advice I can
>> give you at the moment is to try to get your hands on a Sony and make
>> your own tests before you make a final decision. You should also
>> follow Ayrtons advice and try the Tokina 10-17 once you are testing
>> anyway.
>>
>> I wish you rather few sleepless nights and keep us informed.
>>
>> Jürgen



Pat Swovelin
Cool Guy @ Large


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>Is it possible to add to this project d/l links?

For the panos themselves? In a few cases, yes. But most are made from
collections of disparate files that can be a fiddle to deal with and
some are commercially-licensed products.

As Paulo says you could use the links to the various product sites.
But if there's something different you'd find useful there (and it
wouldn't conflict with license restrictions) I'll certainly see if I
can include it.

k

Hi list,
I am selling my beloved Sigma 8 mm/F 3.5 for Canon mount.
The complete set consist of:

- The Sigma 8mm/F3.5 (Canon mount)
   The lens with 2 caps (front & back)
   Mint condition: aboslutely NO scratsches, fungus etc.
   Just like brand-new.
   Bought: 2008

- TRing NPA (levelled)
   A NPA-Ring by Tobias (The "shaver") with a plastic
   ring not to harm the lens.

- 5°Up Adaptor
   Brings the NPA a 5° up to ease Canon CROP users.
   So the system can be used levelled or 5°up.

Images in the German forum (text in German though):
http://tinyurl.com/33yona8

Also when mentioned "sold as a package", I consider selling it seperately.
Payments via Paypal are easy going, shipping by desired carrier.

You also can just drop by and have a look :)

Just make me a realistic offer of list to:

virtugraf (at) gmx (dot) de

Ciao
Mike
360de.de

Hello,

  I was waiting to do more interesting work to present to you.. but I see that
news spreads fast on Internet :-))

Ok, we have build this "Dodecacopter" to made sphericals but instead of other
solutions that I have see, I was very interested on use the same high quality
gear that I normally use... so we have designed it to have enough payload... all
the frame is made with carbon fiber and also the landing gear from
photoshipone... the fly is electronically controlled with a lot of sensors and
we have developed also an automatic shoot system, so when the model is on place
it stays alone and with only a command it made all the photos...

we just start to use it and we have only made one pano, I used the D3 with the
16mm


I hope to do more samples soon

  regards



El 02/06/2010, a las 16:57, Michel Thoby escribió:

> I have read that this panorama:
> http://www.abaco-digital.es/virtual.php?src=dodeka
> was a "Primera fotografía esférica con dodecacoptero" and elsewhere that it
was shot from an altitude of about 70 m from a RC helicopter under which a Nikon
D3 + 10.5 combo was mounted.
> I have learnt that the allowable payload of this 12--engine flying platform is
possibly more than 3 kg: if true this figure is rather impressive.
>
> From video images one can see the "dodecaptero" on early flights:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp0c2znJQo
> The way to shoot Panorama is shown near the end of the video. The fisheye lens
seems to be unshaved and six shots may be needed.
>
> Would Ignacio Ferrando Margeli be kind to tell us more about this aerial
panorama photographic means?
>
> Michel Thoby
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

----------------------------------------------------------

Ignacio Ferrando Margelí

Abaco Digital

http://www.abaco-digital.com







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The deadline is tomorrow, I noticed that this info never made it to
the list...

http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/pages/view.asp?page=30374

Ian

http://wiki.nasa.gov/cm/blog/whatonearth/posts/post_1275422073165.html

Hello Ignacio,

To "use the same quality gear that you normally use" you said. Well, this first
trial seems to show that you are on the right track.
As the D3 is one of the heaviest SLR and as the 16 mm needs so many shots (i.e.
~ 6 shots around), you have proved that the system is designed with large
operational margin if it were used with less demanding gears.

Thank you for the prompt response!

Michel

Le 3 juin 2010 à 11:46, Ignacio Ferrando Margelí a écrit :

>
> Hello,
>
> I was waiting to do more interesting work to present to you.. but I see that
news spreads fast on Internet :-))
>
> Ok, we have build this "Dodecacopter" to made sphericals but instead of other
solutions that I have see, I was very interested on use the same high quality
gear that I normally use... so we have designed it to have enough payload... all
the frame is made with carbon fiber and also the landing gear from
photoshipone... the fly is electronically controlled with a lot of sensors and
we have developed also an automatic shoot system, so when the model is on place
it stays alone and with only a command it made all the photos...
>
> we just start to use it and we have only made one pano, I used the D3 with the
16mm
>
>
> I hope to do more samples soon
>
> regards
>
>
>
> El 02/06/2010, a las 16:57, Michel Thoby escribió:
>
>> I have read that this panorama:
>> http://www.abaco-digital.es/virtual.php?src=dodeka
>> was a "Primera fotografía esférica con dodecacoptero" and elsewhere that it
was shot from an altitude of about 70 m from a RC helicopter under which a Nikon
D3 + 10.5 combo was mounted.
>> I have learnt that the allowable payload of this 12--engine flying platform
is possibly more than 3 kg: if true this figure is rather impressive.
>>
>> From video images one can see the "dodecaptero" on early flights:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp0c2znJQo
>> The way to shoot Panorama is shown near the end of the video. The fisheye
lens seems to be unshaved and six shots may be needed.
>>
>> Would Ignacio Ferrando Margeli be kind to tell us more about this aerial
panorama photographic means?
>>
>> Michel Thoby
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Ignacio Ferrando Margelí
>
> Abaco Digital
>
> http://www.abaco-digital.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>

Hi, recently I found some software that control the images with gesture control
I mean by a video camera that recognize your hand movements to control an image.

I wonder if someone have some experience with this technologies, those are just
novelty gadgets or are real world applicable

I suppose that this technology will be nice to show panoramas on kiosks,
shopping centers exhibitions, etc

Regards

Juan Correa

I've done a bit of work along these lines, using a motion-capture plug-
in for Shockwave, controlling a Spi-V panorama.

It can work, but you need to spend a *lot* of time calibrating &
tweaking the feedback.

Ian

On 3 Jun 2010, at 13:45, felipe wrote:

> Hi, recently I found some software that control the images with
> gesture control I mean by a video camera that recognize your hand
> movements to control an image.
>
> I wonder if someone have some experience with this technologies,
> those are just novelty gadgets or are real world applicable
>
> I suppose that this technology will be nice to show panoramas on
> kiosks, shopping centers exhibitions, etc
>
> Regards
>
> Juan Correa

Ignacio,

on my 50 megabit connetion, I waited probably a minute (felt like more) for the
4MB pano to load. (I'm in europe.) And when it does load, the sky is totally
posterized.

Maybe this is only a demo, but you might want to check some image / server
settings.

jeffrey

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Michel Thoby <thobymichel@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Ignacio,
>
> To "use the same quality gear that you normally use" you said. Well, this
first trial seems to show that you are on the right track.
> As the D3 is one of the heaviest SLR and as the 16 mm needs so many shots
(i.e. ~ 6 shots around), you have proved that the system is designed with large
operational margin if it were used with less demanding gears.
>
> Thank you for the prompt response!
>
> Michel
>
> Le 3 juin 2010 � 11:46, Ignacio Ferrando Margel� a �crit :
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was waiting to do more interesting work to present to you.. but I see that
news spreads fast on Internet :-))
> >
> > Ok, we have build this "Dodecacopter" to made sphericals but instead of
other solutions that I have see, I was very interested on use the same high
quality gear that I normally use... so we have designed it to have enough
payload... all the frame is made with carbon fiber and also the landing gear
from photoshipone... the fly is electronically controlled with a lot of sensors
and we have developed also an automatic shoot system, so when the model is on
place it stays alone and with only a command it made all the photos...
> >
> > we just start to use it and we have only made one pano, I used the D3 with
the 16mm
> >
> >
> > I hope to do more samples soon
> >
> > regards
> >
> >
> >
> > El 02/06/2010, a las 16:57, Michel Thoby escribi�:
> >
> >> I have read that this panorama:
> >> http://www.abaco-digital.es/virtual.php?src=dodeka
> >> was a "Primera fotograf�a esf�rica con dodecacoptero" and elsewhere
that it was shot from an altitude of about 70 m from a RC helicopter under which
a Nikon D3 + 10.5 combo was mounted.
> >> I have learnt that the allowable payload of this 12--engine flying platform
is possibly more than 3 kg: if true this figure is rather impressive.
> >>
> >> From video images one can see the "dodecaptero" on early flights:
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp0c2znJQo
> >> The way to shoot Panorama is shown near the end of the video. The fisheye
lens seems to be unshaved and six shots may be needed.
> >>
> >> Would Ignacio Ferrando Margeli be kind to tell us more about this aerial
panorama photographic means?
> >>
> >> Michel Thoby
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Ignacio Ferrando Margel�
> >
> > Abaco Digital
> >
> > http://www.abaco-digital.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Jeff,
sorry but there must be, or it was something wrong with your connection ... I
have same 'speed' connection as you and Ignacios IRC chopter VRp loads within
few seconds acctually immediatelly... and the VRP is with very good picture.
:) Bostjan

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, prague <360cities@...> wrote:

From: prague <360cities@...>
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Dodecacoptero
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 3:00 PM
















 











Ignacio,



on my 50 megabit connetion, I waited probably a minute (felt like more) for the
4MB pano to load. (I'm in europe.) And when it does load, the sky is totally
posterized.



Maybe this is only a demo, but you might want to check some image / server
settings.



jeffrey




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Fantastic job Ignacio .. congratulations . I dream with such a "toy" .

Fernando
Salvador Bahia
Brazil.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...> wrote:

>
>
> Jeff,
> sorry but there must be, or it was something wrong with your connection ...
> I have same 'speed' connection as you and Ignacios IRC chopter VRp loads
> within few seconds acctually immediatelly... and the VRP is with very good
> picture.
> :) Bostjan
>
> --- On Thu, 6/3/10, prague <360cities@... <360cities%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: prague <360cities@... <360cities%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Dodecacoptero
> To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 3:00 PM
>
>
>
>
> Ignacio,
>
> on my 50 megabit connetion, I waited probably a minute (felt like more) for
> the 4MB pano to load. (I'm in europe.) And when it does load, the sky is
> totally posterized.
>
> Maybe this is only a demo, but you might want to check some image / server
> settings.
>
> jeffrey
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yes, but I will be happy if Mr. Nikon decide to made a new Dxxx with better
quality of the D3 and lighter....:-))) that will increase the autonomy...




El 03/06/2010, a las 12:39, Michel Thoby escribió:

> Hello Ignacio,
>
> To "use the same quality gear that you normally use" you said. Well, this
first trial seems to show that you are on the right track.
> As the D3 is one of the heaviest SLR and as the 16 mm needs so many shots
(i.e. ~ 6 shots around), you have proved that the system is designed with large
operational margin if it were used with less demanding gears.
>
> Thank you for the prompt response!
>
> Michel
>
>

----------------------------------------------------------

Ignacio Ferrando Margelí

Abaco Digital

http://www.abaco-digital.com







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jeffrey,

  I'm using the AutoQuality pluging I'm not sure if your problem comes from
there... nobody have said me nothing

regards




El 03/06/2010, a las 15:00, prague escribió:

>
> Ignacio,
>
> on my 50 megabit connetion, I waited probably a minute (felt like more) for
the 4MB pano to load. (I'm in europe.) And when it does load, the sky is totally
posterized.
>
> Maybe this is only a demo, but you might want to check some image / server
settings.
>
> jeffrey
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Michel Thoby <thobymichel@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Ignacio,
> >
> > To "use the same quality gear that you normally use" you said. Well, this
first trial seems to show that you are on the right track.
> > As the D3 is one of the heaviest SLR and as the 16 mm needs so many shots
(i.e. ~ 6 shots around), you have proved that the system is designed with large
operational margin if it were used with less demanding gears.
> >
> > Thank you for the prompt response!
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > Le 3 juin 2010 � 11:46, Ignacio Ferrando Margel� a �crit :
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I was waiting to do more interesting work to present to you.. but I see
that news spreads fast on Internet :-))
> > >
> > > Ok, we have build this "Dodecacopter" to made sphericals but instead of
other solutions that I have see, I was very interested on use the same high
quality gear that I normally use... so we have designed it to have enough
payload... all the frame is made with carbon fiber and also the landing gear
from photoshipone... the fly is electronically controlled with a lot of sensors
and we have developed also an automatic shoot system, so when the model is on
place it stays alone and with only a command it made all the photos...
> > >
> > > we just start to use it and we have only made one pano, I used the D3 with
the 16mm
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope to do more samples soon
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > El 02/06/2010, a las 16:57, Michel Thoby escribi�:
> > >
> > >> I have read that this panorama:
> > >> http://www.abaco-digital.es/virtual.php?src=dodeka
> > >> was a "Primera fotograf�a esf�rica con dodecacoptero" and elsewhere
that it was shot from an altitude of about 70 m from a RC helicopter under which
a Nikon D3 + 10.5 combo was mounted.
> > >> I have learnt that the allowable payload of this 12--engine flying
platform is possibly more than 3 kg: if true this figure is rather impressive.
> > >>
> > >> From video images one can see the "dodecaptero" on early flights:
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp0c2znJQo
> > >> The way to shoot Panorama is shown near the end of the video. The fisheye
lens seems to be unshaved and six shots may be needed.
> > >>
> > >> Would Ignacio Ferrando Margeli be kind to tell us more about this aerial
panorama photographic means?
> > >>
> > >> Michel Thoby
> > >>
> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Ignacio Ferrando Margel�
> > >
> > > Abaco Digital
> > >
> > > http://www.abaco-digital.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

----------------------------------------------------------

Ignacio Ferrando Margelí

Abaco Digital

http://www.abaco-digital.com







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

There are several views of Lone Pine Lake on my new product, "Take Home
Mt. Whitney in Virtual Reality."

There is a tremendous amount of snow this year and the snowpack is deep
and ubiquitous for this time of year.  I live in Independence, which is
a popular resupply point for trekkers on the Pacific Crest Trail.  I
have yet to see my first trekker this spring.

There is a very high and difficult pass between the Mt. Whitney area and
Kearsarge Pass, which is the pass above Independence.  The dangerous
pass is Forester Pass which is just about exactly 4,000 meters high nad
lies on the Kings/Kern divide.  It's the highest pass on the trail
between Mexico and Canada.

I plan to cross it later this summer.  I have been to the foot of the
pass on both sides, but never over it.  There are parts of the pass that
require ice axes and glacier travel skills when the switchbacks are
still covered with the ice clad drifts of the winter snowpack, as they
must be now, June 3rd.

I talked to a guy last spring who had saved a young woman's life after
she managed to self arrest at the edge of a big sheer drop but could not
climb back up.  She had lost her footing while crossing one of the snow
covered sections of the trail.  He lowered a rope down and with a few
people pulling they managed to pull her back up to a safer location.  If
she had not been carrying an ice ax which she was able to use for self
arrest she would have catapulted over the edge to her death.

http://inyopro.com/images/sheperds_alpine_meadow.html

http://inyopro.com/images/tyndall_plateau_boulders.html

http://inyopro.com/images/overlooking_forester_pass.html

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "prague" <360cities@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ignacio,
>
> on my 50 megabit connetion, I waited probably a minute (felt like more) for
the 4MB pano to load. (I'm in europe.) And when it does load, the sky is totally
posterized.


I do not see any specially  large posterizing on my 27" iMac.
And loading takes 26 seconds on my 15 megabit.

Hans



>
> Maybe this is only a demo, but you might want to check some image / server
settings.
>
> jeffrey
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Michel Thoby <thobymichel@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Ignacio,
> >
> > To "use the same quality gear that you normally use" you said. Well, this
first trial seems to show that you are on the right track.
> > As the D3 is one of the heaviest SLR and as the 16 mm needs so many shots
(i.e. ~ 6 shots around), you have proved that the system is designed with large
operational margin if it were used with less demanding gears.
> >
> > Thank you for the prompt response!
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > Le 3 juin 2010 � 11:46, Ignacio Ferrando Margel� a �crit :
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I was waiting to do more interesting work to present to you.. but I see
that news spreads fast on Internet :-))
> > >
> > > Ok, we have build this "Dodecacopter" to made sphericals but instead of
other solutions that I have see, I was very interested on use the same high
quality gear that I normally use... so we have designed it to have enough
payload... all the frame is made with carbon fiber and also the landing gear
from photoshipone... the fly is electronically controlled with a lot of sensors
and we have developed also an automatic shoot system, so when the model is on
place it stays alone and with only a command it made all the photos...
> > >
> > > we just start to use it and we have only made one pano, I used the D3 with
the 16mm
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope to do more samples soon
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > El 02/06/2010, a las 16:57, Michel Thoby escribi�:
> > >
> > >> I have read that this panorama:
> > >> http://www.abaco-digital.es/virtual.php?src=dodeka
> > >> was a "Primera fotograf�a esf�rica con dodecacoptero" and elsewhere
that it was shot from an altitude of about 70 m from a RC helicopter under which
a Nikon D3 + 10.5 combo was mounted.
> > >> I have learnt that the allowable payload of this 12--engine flying
platform is possibly more than 3 kg: if true this figure is rather impressive.
> > >>
> > >> From video images one can see the "dodecaptero" on early flights:
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp0c2znJQo
> > >> The way to shoot Panorama is shown near the end of the video. The fisheye
lens seems to be unshaved and six shots may be needed.
> > >>
> > >> Would Ignacio Ferrando Margeli be kind to tell us more about this aerial
panorama photographic means?
> > >>
> > >> Michel Thoby
> > >>
> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Ignacio Ferrando Margel�
> > >
> > > Abaco Digital
> > >
> > > http://www.abaco-digital.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

On 6-3-2010 3:31 AM, Ken Warner's hamster got loose on the keyboard and
typed ...:
> http://wiki.nasa.gov/cm/blog/whatonearth/posts/post_1275422073165.html

Even though the question "What on Earth: How many "takes" did it take to
get the machine to work?" went unanswered the answer is: 85 takes and
there were 89 mechanisms in the video.




Pat Swovelin
Cool Guy @ Large


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 6-3-2010 5:52 AM, Ian Wood's hamster got loose on the keyboard and
typed ...:
> I've done a bit of work along these lines, using a motion-capture plug-
> in for Shockwave, controlling a Spi-V panorama.
>
> It can work, but you need to spend a *lot* of time calibrating &
> tweaking the feedback.

Plus if it's used in a kiosk situation there's a big chance the camera
will be confused by people passing by behind the person in front of the
camera.

> Ian
>
> On 3 Jun 2010, at 13:45, felipe wrote:
>
>> Hi, recently I found some software that control the images with
>> gesture control I mean by a video camera that recognize your hand
>> movements to control an image.
>>
>> I wonder if someone have some experience with this technologies,
>> those are just novelty gadgets or are real world applicable
>>
>> I suppose that this technology will be nice to show panoramas on
>> kiosks, shopping centers exhibitions, etc
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Juan Correa



Pat Swovelin
Cool Guy @ Large


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Nice panos from the Mt Whitney area by Paul and Roger and the other
week from Jürgen so I thought I would throw some into the mix. Just
recently spent 1 day in the area so I could hit only the major tourist
areas. Actually, I was on the other side (west) of the Sierras in
Sequoia National Park only a few miles as the crow flies from Mt.
Whitney. The big trees are on the west side of Sequoia NP and Mt
Whitney is also in Sequoia NP on the eastern edge. I shot about a
dozen panos but only have a few posted as of yet. Of course I have
"General Sherman" the largest tree in the world and a couple other
sequoias. Also in the pano from the top of Moro Rock, I was able to
get a few interesting features such as a passing thunderstorm, a
passing Swift (bird), and a kinda' rare phenomena called a
"circumhorizontal arc" all in the same pano!

Moro Rock
<http://rackphoto.com/pp/2010/05/22/moro-rock-sequoia-national-park/>

Sequoia Trees
<http://rackphoto.com/pp/special-projects/sequoia-national-park/>


ron rack
http://360around.com



On Jun 3, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Paul Fretheim wrote:

> There are several views of Lone Pine Lake on my new product, "Take
> Home
> Mt. Whitney in Virtual Reality."
>
> There is a tremendous amount of snow this year and the snowpack is
> deep
> and ubiquitous for this time of year. I live in Independence, which is
> a popular resupply point for trekkers on the Pacific Crest Trail. I
> have yet to see my first trekker this spring.
>
> There is a very high and difficult pass between the Mt. Whitney area
> and
> Kearsarge Pass, which is the pass above Independence. The dangerous
> pass is Forester Pass which is just about exactly 4,000 meters high
> nad
> lies on the Kings/Kern divide. It's the highest pass on the trail
> between Mexico and Canada.
>
> I plan to cross it later this summer. I have been to the foot of the
> pass on both sides, but never over it. There are parts of the pass
> that
> require ice axes and glacier travel skills when the switchbacks are
> still covered with the ice clad drifts of the winter snowpack, as they
> must be now, June 3rd.
>
> I talked to a guy last spring who had saved a young woman's life after
> she managed to self arrest at the edge of a big sheer drop but could
> not
> climb back up. She had lost her footing while crossing one of the snow
> covered sections of the trail. He lowered a rope down and with a few
> people pulling they managed to pull her back up to a safer location.
> If
> she had not been carrying an ice ax which she was able to use for self
> arrest she would have catapulted over the edge to her death.
>
> http://inyopro.com/images/sheperds_alpine_meadow.html
>
> http://inyopro.com/images/tyndall_plateau_boulders.html
>
> http://inyopro.com/images/overlooking_forester_pass.html
>
>
>



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Ignacio
CONGRATZS it is wonderfull.

and I'm happy we are gonna meet in person this year  :-)

See you
best
AYRTON



2010/6/3 Ignacio Ferrando Margelí <fotografia@...>

> Hello,
>
>  I was waiting to do more interesting work to present to you.. but I see
> that news spreads fast on Internet :-))
>
> Ok, we have build this "Dodecacopter" to made sphericals but instead of
> other solutions that I have see, I was very interested on use the same high
> quality gear that I normally use... so we have designed it to have enough
> payload... all the frame is made with carbon fiber and also the landing gear
> from photoshipone... the fly is electronically controlled with a lot of
> sensors and we have developed also an automatic shoot system, so when the
> model is on place it stays alone and with only a command it made all the
> photos...
>
> we just start to use it and we have only made one pano, I used the D3 with
> the 16mm
>
>
> I hope to do more samples soon
>
>  regards
>
>
>
> El 02/06/2010, a las 16:57, Michel Thoby escribió:
>
> > I have read that this panorama:
> > http://www.abaco-digital.es/virtual.php?src=dodeka
> > was a "Primera fotografía esférica con dodecacoptero" and elsewhere that
> it was shot from an altitude of about 70 m from a RC helicopter under which
> a Nikon D3 + 10.5 combo was mounted.
> > I have learnt that the allowable payload of this 12--engine flying
> platform is possibly more than 3 kg: if true this figure is rather
> impressive.
> >
> > From video images one can see the "dodecaptero" on early flights:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp0c2znJQo
> > The way to shoot Panorama is shown near the end of the video. The fisheye
> lens seems to be unshaved and six shots may be needed.
> >
> > Would Ignacio Ferrando Margeli be kind to tell us more about this aerial
> panorama photographic means?
> >
> > Michel Thoby
> >
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> >
> >
>
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>
> Ignacio Ferrando Margelí
>
> Abaco Digital
>
> http://www.abaco-digital.com
>
>
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1.9 mbps connection in Peru
27 seconds to load from start to stop.
No banding in the sky
You have some great equipment with a very nice result.
... boys and their toys... :)

Trausti


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On 6-3-2010 1:17 PM, Ron Rack's hamster got loose on the keyboard and
typed ...:
> Nice panos from the Mt Whitney area by Paul and Roger and the other
> week from Jürgen so I thought I would throw some into the mix. Just
> recently spent 1 day in the area so I could hit only the major tourist
> areas. Actually, I was on the other side (west) of the Sierras in
> Sequoia National Park only a few miles as the crow flies from Mt.
> Whitney. The big trees are on the west side of Sequoia NP and Mt
> Whitney is also in Sequoia NP on the eastern edge. I shot about a
> dozen panos but only have a few posted as of yet. Of course I have
> "General Sherman" the largest tree in the world and a couple other
> sequoias. Also in the pano from the top of Moro Rock, I was able to
> get a few interesting features such as a passing thunderstorm, a
> passing Swift (bird), and a kinda' rare phenomena called a
> "circumhorizontal arc" all in the same pano!
>
> Moro Rock
> <http://rackphoto.com/pp/2010/05/22/moro-rock-sequoia-national-park/>
>
> Sequoia Trees
> <http://rackphoto.com/pp/special-projects/sequoia-national-park/>

For those of you who have never been standing in front of the General
Sherman tree it's impossible to grasp the magnificence of this tree, no
matter how well it's shot (thank you, Ron), its sheer size is
staggering.  This will put it into perspective for you.  Before it broke
off in January of 2006 the largest branch of the tree was 6.8 *FEET* in
diameter and was 130 FEET above the ground.  That's a full-sized tree as
far as I'm concerned and it was merely a branch of the General Sherman tree.

This tree, as well as the National Park its in, should be on your
things-I-must-see/do-before-I-die list.  Up near the top.

> ron rack
> http://360around.com
>
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Paul Fretheim wrote:
>
>> There are several views of Lone Pine Lake on my new product, "Take
>> Home
>> Mt. Whitney in Virtual Reality."
>>
>> There is a tremendous amount of snow this year and the snowpack is
>> deep
>> and ubiquitous for this time of year. I live in Independence, which is
>> a popular resupply point for trekkers on the Pacific Crest Trail. I
>> have yet to see my first trekker this spring.
>>
>> There is a very high and difficult pass between the Mt. Whitney area
>> and
>> Kearsarge Pass, which is the pass above Independence. The dangerous
>> pass is Forester Pass which is just about exactly 4,000 meters high
>> nad
>> lies on the Kings/Kern divide. It's the highest pass on the trail
>> between Mexico and Canada.
>>
>> I plan to cross it later this summer. I have been to the foot of the
>> pass on both sides, but never over it. There are parts of the pass
>> that
>> require ice axes and glacier travel skills when the switchbacks are
>> still covered with the ice clad drifts of the winter snowpack, as they
>> must be now, June 3rd.
>>
>> I talked to a guy last spring who had saved a young woman's life after
>> she managed to self arrest at the edge of a big sheer drop but could
>> not
>> climb back up. She had lost her footing while crossing one of the snow
>> covered sections of the trail. He lowered a rope down and with a few
>> people pulling they managed to pull her back up to a safer location.
>> If
>> she had not been carrying an ice ax which she was able to use for self
>> arrest she would have catapulted over the edge to her death.
>>
>> http://inyopro.com/images/sheperds_alpine_meadow.html
>>
>> http://inyopro.com/images/tyndall_plateau_boulders.html
>>
>> http://inyopro.com/images/overlooking_forester_pass.html




Pat Swovelin
Cool Guy @ Large


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A tree that size is truly impossible to understand... be it through
pictures, panos or video.  One will have to see and feel it in real life.

... on another thought... if there were trees of this size in Denmark, there
would probably be a law prohibiting them to exist.
There is a law that prohibits natural woods to exist there.  Everything has
to be clean and nice. If trees fall, they have to be removed, paths can not
be overgrown etc.  If you own land on which you have trees, you can receive
a fine if you don't keep it manicured to the standards of the law.

It is great to see nature's incredible things... and not only having to see
clean and clear paths of pavement going between the trees.

Trausti

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Pat Swovelin <panoramas@...>wrote:

>
> For those of you who have never been standing in front of the General
> Sherman tree it's impossible to grasp the magnificence of this tree, no
> matter how well it's shot (thank you, Ron), its sheer size is
> staggering. This will put it into perspective for you. Before it broke
> off in January of 2006 the largest branch of the tree was 6.8 *FEET* in
> diameter and was 130 FEET above the ground. That's a full-sized tree as
> far as I'm concerned and it was merely a branch of the General Sherman
> tree.
>
> This tree, as well as the National Park its in, should be on your
> things-I-must-see/do-before-I-die list. Up near the top.
>
>
> Pat Swovelin
> Cool Guy @ Large
>


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well, at least they have real trees... if they get lost in the forest they have
to do more than stand up :-P


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Trausti Hraunfjord <trausti.hraunfjord@...>
wrote:
>
> A tree that size is truly impossible to understand... be it through
> pictures, panos or video.  One will have to see and feel it in real life.
>
> ... on another thought... if there were trees of this size in Denmark, there
> would probably be a law prohibiting them to exist.
> There is a law that prohibits natural woods to exist there.  Everything has
> to be clean and nice. If trees fall, they have to be removed, paths can not
> be overgrown etc.  If you own land on which you have trees, you can receive
> a fine if you don't keep it manicured to the standards of the law.
>
> It is great to see nature's incredible things... and not only having to see
> clean and clear paths of pavement going between the trees.
>
> Trausti
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Pat Swovelin <panoramas@...>wrote:
>
> >
> > For those of you who have never been standing in front of the General
> > Sherman tree it's impossible to grasp the magnificence of this tree, no
> > matter how well it's shot (thank you, Ron), its sheer size is
> > staggering. This will put it into perspective for you. Before it broke
> > off in January of 2006 the largest branch of the tree was 6.8 *FEET* in
> > diameter and was 130 FEET above the ground. That's a full-sized tree as
> > far as I'm concerned and it was merely a branch of the General Sherman
> > tree.
> >
> > This tree, as well as the National Park its in, should be on your
> > things-I-must-see/do-before-I-die list. Up near the top.
> >
> >
> > Pat Swovelin
> > Cool Guy @ Large
> >
>
>
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>

I've been up there years ago; maybe on my next week off I will drive up there
and use my pole setup to shoot some photos of the General Sherman tree along
with other places around there. Now if I just had a longer pole!
It is so beautiful up there, I should really try and get up there more often as
it's only about a 5 hour drive from here.

Roger Berry

http://www.apple.com/html5/

If you are not running on Safari, don't bother clicking the link, since it won't
work on any other browser.  That's how good HTML5 really is today.

Anyways, should you happen to have Safari, you can see an example of object
movie.  Very basic, very basic and very basic.... did I say basic?

And you can also see an example of a spherical panorama that looks and feels
like something from last century.

This is HTML5 showcase site... and everything in it happens to be a BAD
imitation of what is possible to do with Flash.  They have obviously worked hard
towards making things look as good as possible, in order to "impress" people,
but the results are less than mediocre.

It's good that HTML4 will be replaced by HTML5... after 13 or 14 years... with
only 3 updates in that timeframe... but this also proves that Flash will be
alive and well for many years to come, while HTML5 will just stay in one place,
and not evolve at all... for the next decade.

That is what history proves to us all.

Maybe Adobe should sue all those who try to imitate the Flash capabilities? 
That would be in the spirit of Apple, so how wrong could that be?

Just thinking out loud.

And then... on testing the link, I got nothing at all.  Just a white page on
FF and Chrome on my PC and laptop... and "page not found" on the iMac.

Then it got back online a few minutes later.

Looks as if HTML5 is not the new messiah of the internet... but just as
faulty and bad... if not worse than what we already have. :)

No surprise if you ask me.

Trausti


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These web standards are open, reliable, highly secure, and efficient.

The above is a quote from the Apple site.  IF the examples are the best
possible scenarios done with HTML5, then it is a real pitty. The only
conclusion I can come to, is that they wanted a panorama to work in a
similar way as QTVR... and they even failed at matching that sub-standard of
today.

But worry not... this will be the standard for the next 13 or so years.  No
matter how open source it is... it's not going to be improved just because
you find a flaw or a lacking feature.  It's going to stay the way it is
until HTML6 comes out in 2023.

Welcome to the free open source standards.

Trausti


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On 6-3-2010 9:46 PM, blueslander's hamster got loose on the keyboard and
typed ...:
> http://www.apple.com/html5/
>
> If you are not running on Safari,

It doesn't work in Safari running in Win 7 Ultimate x64.  The VR section
tells me:

.            This demo requires a browser that supports CSS 3D transforms.
.            To view this demo, you'll need Safari on Mac OS X Snow
Leopard, Safari on iPhone OS, or the latest WebKit Nightly Build.

In Safari running in XP Pro the page can't be found and it always
changes the "html" in the URL to uppecase.

So let me get this straight, I have to buy a Mac or an iPhone to use the
new standard?  Doesn't seem like much of a "standard" to me ... unless
I've got Apple hardware.

> don't bother clicking the link, since it won't work on any other
> browser. That's how good HTML5 really is today.
>
> Anyways, should you happen to have Safari, you can see an example of
> object movie. Very basic, very basic and very basic.... did I say basic?
>
> And you can also see an example of a spherical panorama that looks and
> feels like something from last century.
>
> This is HTML5 showcase site... and everything in it happens to be a
> BAD imitation of what is possible to do with Flash. They have
> obviously worked hard towards making things look as good as possible,
> in order to "impress" people, but the results are less than mediocre.
>
> It's good that HTML4 will be replaced by HTML5... after 13 or 14
> years... with only 3 updates in that timeframe... but this also proves
> that Flash will be alive and well for many years to come, while HTML5
> will just stay in one place, and not evolve at all... for the next decade.
>
> That is what history proves to us all.
>
> Maybe Adobe should sue all those who try to imitate the Flash
> capabilities? That would be in the spirit of Apple, so how wrong could
> that be?
>
> Just thinking out loud.



Pat Swovelin
Cool Guy @ Large


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