Am 02.07.2010 21:43, schrieb Charles:

> Can anybody tell me where am I picking up this white line, and how to
eliminate it?

Did you by chance resize the image in photoshop while it was still
layered? This would be the culprit. First flatten your image, then
resize. Ah, and did you check it is exactly 2:1 ratio? Not f.e. 8000x3999?

Another cause once happened to me and cost me three days of work: If you
shift-drag images in photoshop and you release the shift key too soon,
the layer will not be placed exactly...

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

Il 30/06/2010 11.53, Jan Martin ha scritto:
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to script PTviewer using javascript.
> Already managed to pass on file, pan tilt and fow to display a new pano.
>
> However I am failing to also pass a new Hotspot:
>
> Test mit PTviewer 2.8 von Fluvio Senore:
>
>
<http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20100629/Fluvio/streetview-viewe\
r.html>
> http://bit.ly/cbhjPR
>
> Test mit PTviewer 3.1.2 von H. Dersch:
>
<http://www.diy-streetview.org/data/development/20100628/PTviewer/streetview-vie\
wer.html>
> http://bit.ly/a1xEfz
>
> Relevant code:
> next ='{file='+streetview+'} {pan='+pan+'} {tilt='+tilt+'} {fov='+fov+'}
> {name="hotspot1" value="q x1500 y750 a1600 b800
> u$+javascript:update(\'pano/000045.jpg\')+ n$+pano/000045.jpg+"}';
>
> document.ptviewer.newPano(next);
>
> The new Hotspot should be right in the middle of the image.
>
> According to H. Dersch this should work:
> http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/~dersch/PTVJ/doc.html
>
> ...PTViewer can be scripted by the html document. Several functions are
> available to control navigation, zooming, panning and jumping to specific
> locations. The syntax follows the usual javascript rules. All ptviewer
> commands from the list above are available as javascript commands also. ...
>
> What's wrong?
>

It is a long time since I last worked at PTViewer, but I don't think
that it is possible to add a hotspot at runtime. Hotspots are defined as
parameters in the <applet> tag.

Fulvio Senore

Try changing the initial view when the panorama opens and see if that will make
it go away. I ran into that same problem with QTVRs and it solved the problem
there.

On Jul 2, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Charles wrote:

> I've been lurking for a while, and have learned a lot from you long-timers,
but I have a problem I can't figure out. I searched the archives for it, but
only found a couple of references to the problem and no answers.
>
> I've just uploaded my WWP entry, and find that when it displays there is a 1
pixel white line through the image, at the point where the equirectangular .jpg
wraps.
>
> My workflow is to do the raw conversion in LR2 on a Mac, export tiffs, merge
in PTGui Pro, outputting .psd file and layers, resolve overlap issues in PS CS5
outputting .tif, convert in Cubic Converter to cube faces so I can put
information/logo in the center of the nadir, and reconvert back to an
equirectangular jpg, final touches in PS, then submit to WWP, where it is
converted to Flash for display.
>
> Can anybody tell me where am I picking up this white line, and how to
eliminate it?
>
> My best to all,
>
> Chuck Lampman
> Kennesaw, GA
>
>



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Am 02.07.2010 22:06, schrieb Fulvio Senore:
> It is a long time since I last worked at PTViewer, but I don't think
> that it is possible to add a hotspot at runtime. Hotspots are defined as
> parameters in the<applet>  tag.

Do you remember the wufdog PTViewer pages? As far as I remember you
could add hotspots dynamically there. Unfortunately they are gone some
years ago. archive.org still has them, but those are not functional:
http://tinyurl.com/3xz2ryp

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

Yes, now that you write it I remember those pages. They were very good
ones, who knows what happened to that guy...

Anyway, I don't remember if it was possible to add hotspots. It was a
long time ago, in the times when Java looked like the future...

Now Java is the past, and I cannot keep from asking myself if and when
Flash will become the next Java and change from "future" to "past"...

Fulvio

Il 02/07/2010 22.17, Erik Krause ha scritto:
> Am 02.07.2010 22:06, schrieb Fulvio Senore:
>> It is a long time since I last worked at PTViewer, but I don't think
>> that it is possible to add a hotspot at runtime. Hotspots are defined as
>> parameters in the<applet>   tag.
>
> Do you remember the wufdog PTViewer pages? As far as I remember you
> could add hotspots dynamically there. Unfortunately they are gone some
> years ago. archive.org still has them, but those are not functional:
> http://tinyurl.com/3xz2ryp
>

Well,

I already spend an hour on that page and the pages source.
Haven't found anything on adding hotspots by javascript.

Something different:
How to add an hotspot to panosalado 1 by javascript and not from an xml
file?

Thanks,
Jan


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Yeah Jimbo
perfect, you got my idea :-)

And yes Jürgen is right, I wrote a mistake, not 6 millions, but 60 millions
  :-)

best
AYRTON



On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:33 AM, mrjimbo <mrjimbo@...> wrote:

> Ayrton,
> As much as I hate to say this I think you have the right long term
> outlook..  So ,now, it is becoming more clear why Apple has stepped back
> from Flash. Yes one could take sides but then opportunity may or probably
> will be lost. As individuals we cannot fight the wars of the corporate
> entities. Time , money , the masses and the legal system will do that.
>
> If iOS is developed further to add more function without breaking any
> copyright laws in the long run they will gain ground.. I would think it's
> very appropriate to develop material for both sides until this gets sorted
> out. While many on this group have exhibited opinions and feelings about all
> of this we will not be the ones that decide the outcome..
>
> We can however do what's necessary even if were not happy with it to do
> what's necessary to secure our positions.. Isn't that what separate's the
> men from the boys so to speak?
>
> jimbo
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: AYRTON
>  To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:46 PM
>  Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Oh God, more ideas
>
>
>
>  Here the press release:
>  <http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/06/07iads.html>
>
>  And pls note that I don't make money *from* Apple
>  BUT
>  I want to make money *with* Apple
>
>  This new product, the iAD, is one more place to give me the chance to
>  produce advertising content !!!
>
>  And the first iAD from NISSAN is just great, as it has a 360 view from a
> car
>  , just like I dream,
>  and that will enforce more work to come to our door.
>
>  Today, I already spoke with 5 different Art Directors from Rio de Janeiro
>  advertising Agencies, and ALL of them agreed that it will increase the
>  chances to hire me to make new stuff for their agencie's clients !!!
>
>  So I just want to have more opportunity and get more jobs :-)
>
>  I think there's no reason to fight, if it can give us more support to
>  produce content for iDevices, Mobiles and etc ...
>
>  best regards
>  AYRTON
>
>  On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Trausti Hraunfjord <
>  trausti.hraunfjord@...> wrote:
>
>  > But this ad you linked to, is fiction..as I outlined. The phone could
> not
>  > have any connection if held like this... which is why they fake the
> whole
>  > thing to make it look as if it is working :)
>  >
>  > Sure there is bound to be big money, but the question is for how long
> they
>  > can keep this going, due to lawsuits they are getting from the ad
> industry,
>  > among those from Google if I am not mistaken.
>  >
>  > It's looking like a mess right now.
>  >
>  > Trausti
>  >
>  > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:29 PM, AYRTON <avi@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Trausti,
>  > > But THIS is the new iAD that starting TODAY in the US
>  > >
>  > > Apple got with this new product the amount of 6 millions DOLLARS in
>  > > advertisings for it !!!
>  > >
>  > > Nissan was one of the first Co to make the contract
>  > > This is not fiction
>  > > it is real !!!
>  > >
>  > > It was done by the Advertising Agency for Nissan
>  > > And there's a bunch of others Clients , Cos. and Ad Agencies paying
>  > already
>  > >
>  > > Big Companies
>  > > Big money
>  > > and all paied in advance already !
>  > >
>  > > best
>  > > AYRTON
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Trausti Hraunfjord <
>  > > trausti.hraunfjord@... <trausti.hraunfjord%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > This was a joke.... first of all... I had to watch this on Flash
> based
>  > > > Youtube video... secondly... did you see how the hand held the
> phone...
>  > > and
>  > > > the connection bars were all the way up! That is an impossibility in
>  > the
>  > > > real world, since the antenna has been shorted by the hand... and no
>  > > signal
>  > > > can be found... which is probably the reason why the hand holding
> the
>  > > phone
>  > > > is a static image, and the image on the phone is ADOBE Photoshopped
>  > into
>  > > > the
>  > > > phone image....
>  > > >
>  > > > But yes... it would be a nice reality if the iPhone G4 were usable
> for
>  > > > anything but laughing at iGod Jobs' latest customer support from
> hell
>  > > > comments.
>  > > >
>  > > > And as to the "no external plugins" part of the anti flashers...
> Google
>  > > > Chrome will have Flash as an integrated part of the browser... so no
>  > more
>  > > > external plugins there. Other browsers are bound to follow... but
>  > > probably
>  > > > Safari will have to stay behind if Jobs has anything to say on that
>  > > front.
>  > > >
>  > > > And there have been launched lawsuits against Apple because of the
>  > iPhone
>  > > > flaws... the future doesn't look too good for Apple on that front
> right
>  > > > now.
>  > > >
>  > > > Trausti
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:38 PM, AYRTON <avi@...<avi%
>  > 40ayrton.com>>
>  > > wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Hey guys,
>  > > > > look the new iAD coming out today on the iPhone
>  > > > >
>  > > > > 360 with lots of infos and much more:
>  > > > >
>  > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=a-_xa_m7MXU&vq=hd720#t=13>
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> .. a sweeping burst of rapid shots across the scene is all you need to do they
say .. probably using slice assembly left and right of centre frame (Peleg) ..
>
>

thats what dpreview say too:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1007/10070101sonynexfirmwware.asp

"Sony has released the promised firmware update for its NEX cameras adding 3D
Sweep Panorama mode. This mode separates the left and right edges of the
individual image used for creating panoramic shots. It then uses these slices'
differing perspectives to create a 3D still image that can be played back if you
buy one of the company's Bravia TVs. "

Peter M

Here is a link to the project page that I have created:
http://waterbase.uwm.edu/datamap/cams/master.php

It's still a work in progress. Basically it was created for a team of
scientists to monitor beach conditions, in particular with regard to
rain events. [See the date 2010/06/27 for a really good example of what
we are observing.] So it's not perhaps as polished as a page intended
for public consumption, but it works.

As a follow-up to my original post, I played around with autooptimize
and vig_optimize and neither tool seemed to work at all to balance the
exposures. What really worked well in the end was to take the Makefile
generated by hugin and change the following parameter lines:

NONA_OPTS= -e exposure
ENBLEND_OPTS= -f1768x587 --fine-mask -c -l 16

I know, the "-e exposure" is wrong, it's supposed to be some exposure
value. But it works somehow, so I left it in. The end result is probably
90% as good as if I used hugin manually on each set of images. But of
course, with dozens of new image sets generated per day, that's just not
going to happen!

The only thing is that I wish there existed a tool that could
automatically make fine adjustments to the arrangement of the images to
compensate for the slight variations in alignment caused by vibration of
the camera in the wind. But I'm honestly quite happy with how it turned
out as it is.

--
Tom Hansen
Senior Information Processing Consultant
UWM Great Lakes WATER Institute
www.glwi.uwm.edu
tomh@...




nburtey wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm working on a time-lapse panorama project. It's very close to
> working exactly how I want it to work. Here's what I've done/am doing now:
> >
> > 1. Programmed a PTZ webcam to take images at defined angles at fixed
> intervals. The filenames of the images are basically the
> date+time+"pos"+position+".jpg"
>
> This project seems really interesting !
>
> Would you like to share the camera you're using ?
>
> The motor is enough accurate to use a template ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Burtey
> http://www.nicolasburtey.net
>
>

Hi all,

a new article with lots of images is online:
4x GoPro HD digital cameras make for nice panoramas
http://www.diy-streetview.org/2010/07/02/4x-gopro-hd-digital-cameras-make-for-ni\
ce-panoramas

Please provide feedback in the comments to Matt.

I am interested in how the stitching could be improved.
Hugin project file, original images and my panorama inside the article.
Please use this mailing list for that.

Thanks,
Jan

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Greetings!
Having just listed an Automate on eBay - I didn't get on with its software, I am
wondering what other people use.
As I'm not as inventive as Bernard V and I no longer have a workshop, I don't
want to build my own. Any recommendations?

Thanks

JL

John Law Panoramas
www.john-law.org.uk
mail@...

A number of members may be interested in new features in the latest version of
SPM (StereoPhoto Maker).

It is now possible to automatically align a series of images that are intended
for lenticular prints, autostereoscopic displays, 'bullet-time' movie sequences
or large-scale object-rotation movies.

If there is a common point visible in all images, it is possible to provide a
360 degree rotating view of the subject and if there are a sufficient number of
images, stereo 360 degree object-rotation outdoor movies may be created.

Sample source-image files may be downloaded.

Support is also provided for creating images suitable for lenticular prints.

http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/index.html
http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/help/multiple.htm

(sample04 could take two hours on an 'old' computer .. far faster than trying to
do manually for comfortable stereo viewing !)

David

Thanks, everybody, for the suggestions...

I didn't resize the image at any point- I set the output from PTGui to 6000
X3000, and kept it that size throughout. I don't think I saved to .tifs or .jpgs
with layers- PS warns you that the file size will be bigger if you do that, so I
always go back and flatten- but I might have missed that.

Picking up on Ned's suggestion, I found a workaround. Since the line was at the
point where the image wrapped, I went back to CC and changed the initial view,
then generated new cube faces. The line appeared in the bottom, back and top
faces, so I cloned it out in each face, and reassembled the equirectangular
image.

Now that the WWP submission is in, I'm going to go back and start from scratch
and see if I can fine out what happened- I'll post the results here.

Again, thanks for the help.

Best regards,

Chuck

Jpegs don't have layers, so you won't get that warning.

Autoblending can also cause the line.





Sacha Griffin

Southern Digital Solutions LLC

http://www.seeit360.net

http://www.southern-digital.com

GMAIL IM: sachagriffin007@...

404-551-4275







From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chuck Lampman
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:03 AM
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: White Line





Thanks, everybody, for the suggestions...

I didn't resize the image at any point- I set the output from PTGui to 6000
X3000, and kept it that size throughout. I don't think I saved to .tifs or
.jpgs with layers- PS warns you that the file size will be bigger if you do
that, so I always go back and flatten- but I might have missed that.

Picking up on Ned's suggestion, I found a workaround. Since the line was at
the point where the image wrapped, I went back to CC and changed the initial
view, then generated new cube faces. The line appeared in the bottom, back
and top faces, so I cloned it out in each face, and reassembled the
equirectangular image.

Now that the WWP submission is in, I'm going to go back and start from
scratch and see if I can fine out what happened- I'll post the results here.

Again, thanks for the help.

Best regards,

Chuck

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Adjusting the alignments would work if you compared each image to a baseline
image and corrected the viewpoints only (not ypr).
That would alleviate the per-image wiggling perhaps for awhile while the
images are similar.
You'd need to update your baseline set based on when the windspeeds reach
acceptable levels to optimize against the evolution of the details.


Sacha Griffin
Southern Digital Solutions LLC
http://www.seeit360.net
http://www.southern-digital.com
GMAIL IM: sachagriffin007@...
404-551-4275



-----Original Message-----
From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Hansen
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:13 AM
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Hugin equivalent from command line


Here is a link to the project page that I have created:
http://waterbase.uwm.edu/datamap/cams/master.php

It's still a work in progress. Basically it was created for a team of
scientists to monitor beach conditions, in particular with regard to
rain events. [See the date 2010/06/27 for a really good example of what
we are observing.] So it's not perhaps as polished as a page intended
for public consumption, but it works.

As a follow-up to my original post, I played around with autooptimize
and vig_optimize and neither tool seemed to work at all to balance the
exposures. What really worked well in the end was to take the Makefile
generated by hugin and change the following parameter lines:

NONA_OPTS= -e exposure
ENBLEND_OPTS= -f1768x587 --fine-mask -c -l 16

I know, the "-e exposure" is wrong, it's supposed to be some exposure
value. But it works somehow, so I left it in. The end result is probably
90% as good as if I used hugin manually on each set of images. But of
course, with dozens of new image sets generated per day, that's just not
going to happen!

The only thing is that I wish there existed a tool that could
automatically make fine adjustments to the arrangement of the images to
compensate for the slight variations in alignment caused by vibration of
the camera in the wind. But I'm honestly quite happy with how it turned
out as it is.

--
Tom Hansen
Senior Information Processing Consultant
UWM Great Lakes WATER Institute
www.glwi.uwm.edu
tomh@...

Am 02.07.2010 22:06, schrieb Fulvio Senore:
> It is a long time since I last worked at PTViewer, but I don't think
> that it is possible to add a hotspot at runtime. Hotspots are defined as
> parameters in the<applet>  tag.

Fulvio, could it be we both misunderstood Jan's request? He doesn't want
to add a hotspot dynamically. He wants to define the hotspot in a string
passed to newPano(). The question was, why this hotspot doesn't show
when the new panorama is loaded. From the documentation it should work...

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

Am 30.06.2010 11:53, schrieb Jan Martin:
> Relevant code:
> next ='{file='+streetview+'} {pan='+pan+'} {tilt='+tilt+'} {fov='+fov+'}
> {name="hotspot1" value="q x1500 y750 a1600 b800
> u$+javascript:update(\'pano/000045.jpg\')+ n$+pano/000045.jpg+"}';
>
> document.ptviewer.newPano(next);

After some fiddling with firebug I found the reason: You simply are
using the wrong hotspot syntax: The string should be
... {hotspot0="q x1500 y750 a1600 b800
u$+javascript:update('pano/000015.jpg')+ n$+Click me+"}

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...> wrote:
>
> Am 02.07.2010 21:43, schrieb Charles:
>
> > Can anybody tell me where am I picking up this white line, and how to
eliminate it?
>
> Did you by chance resize the image in photoshop while it was still
> layered? This would be the culprit. First flatten your image, then
> resize. Ah, and did you check it is exactly 2:1 ratio? Not f.e. 8000x3999?
>
> Another cause once happened to me and cost me three days of work: If you
> shift-drag images in photoshop and you release the shift key too soon,
> the layer will not be placed exactly...
>
> --
> Erik Krause
> http://www.erik-krause.de
>


I had the same experience as Erik.  I have also had a noticeable difference at
the seam that is created when the two ends of the equirect join in the final
product.  That time the problem was caused by filter use on one of the layers. 
If you utilize the offset filter in PS, you can see if there will be a problem
with the seams before you convert into flash, java or qtvr file.

Stephani

Erik,

thanks. It works.
I could have sworn I tried that.....

Jan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...> wrote:

> Am 30.06.2010 11:53, schrieb Jan Martin:
> > Relevant code:
> > next ='{file='+streetview+'} {pan='+pan+'} {tilt='+tilt+'} {fov='+fov+'}
> > {name="hotspot1" value="q x1500 y750 a1600 b800
> > u$+javascript:update(\'pano/000045.jpg\')+ n$+pano/000045.jpg+"}';
> >
> > document.ptviewer.newPano(next);
>
> After some fiddling with firebug I found the reason: You simply are
> using the wrong hotspot syntax: The string should be
> ... {hotspot0="q x1500 y750 a1600 b800
> u$+javascript:update('pano/000015.jpg')+ n$+Click me+"}
>
> --
> Erik Krause
> http://www.erik-krause.de
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>
>


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Apart from the other suggestions, I've had this occur in the past when
sharpening a cubic (using Ultra-sharpen pro) before converting to the final
equilateral. Now just sharpen, if required, just before making the final output.
Simon

Hello Group,

Today the Tour de France started the first etappe from Rotterdam to Brussel
and passed my home in Ouddorp at a distance of less then 500m.
I shot several panos from this major event on a 3 m heigh handheld pole with
a 5D + Tokina10-17@12mm + Nodal Ninja R10 lensring + Seitz VR Drive with
remote control.
Each pano is made from 6 images around and fully batch stitched with PTGui
and Smartblend.
No post processing of the images is done, hence the production was fast and
easy, just as I like it on such a nice and sunny day :-)

http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/tour_de_france_2010/image_004.html

Wim
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If any of you are curious, here's a link to the details on the underwater
pano rig we're using.  The results are phenomenal!  No noticeable parallax
error.



http://digitaldivemaster.com/UnderWater-Panoramic-Tripod-Head-Description.ht
m



We've shot several pano's on a local shipwreck, plus at a local quarry.
I'll be uploading them shortly.  Shooting is easier and stitching is more
difficult than I expected. PTgui only found 3 control points on one set, and
none at all on the others. Part of the problem is the amount of debris
floating in the water, plus there are some larger objects that bob around
(they are secured, but are able to move.) And everything is pretty monotone.



Some photos on Flickr:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/rickthephotoguy/sets/72157624421894976/



Comments welcome!



Rick Drew



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Great shot, thank you !

G.


Wim Koornneef <wim.koornneef@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> Today the Tour de France started the first etappe from Rotterdam to Brussel
> and passed my home in Ouddorp at a distance of less then 500m.
> I shot several panos from this major event on a 3 m heigh handheld pole with
> a 5D + Tokina10-17@12mm + Nodal Ninja R10 lensring + Seitz VR Drive with
> remote control.
> Each pano is made from 6 images around and fully batch stitched with PTGui
> and Smartblend.
> No post processing of the images is done, hence the production was fast and
> easy, just as I like it on such a nice and sunny day :-)
>
> http://www.dmmdh.nl/panos/tour_de_france_2010/image_004.html
>
> Wim
> --
> View this message in context:
http://panotoolsng.586017.n4.nabble.com/Tour-de-France-2010-Ouddorp-The-Netherla\
nds-tp2277883p2277883.html
> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

Rick,


Good to see some underwater panoramas!

I find tripod based pano rigs too cumbersome to use easily underwater & I prefer
monopod based setups.
How much lead weight do you need to steady the rig?
Housed cameras are very easily tipped over by water movement or bumps from the
photographer.

Control points are difficult underwater for the reasons you mentioned, after
some time I've gotten better at pattern recognition manually. I tried Autopano
Pro to more automatically process things but it was a failure & I'm best
manually processing the pano.

Lake shots will look monochrome, you may get more colour from the rusting metal
if you use a grey card for manually setting colour temperature. I have a
laminated grey card that I use for colour balance & exposure setting, as with
many things underwater this only introduces another problem with the appearance
of the water column - it tends to go magenta.
Blending & masking together a natural coloured (as shot) pano with a grey card
corrected pano results in a pleasing image.

With Photoshop I have to double process the raw images to colour balance the
grey card because naturally lit scenes are beyond the range envisaged practical
by Adobe (or any one else).
First pass with Camera Raw & save as 16B tiff, then using Bridge you can open
the tiff file with Camera Raw again to complete colour temperature setting; I
know this is strange but it works.

All the best!



Mal


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Drew" <rick@...> wrote:
>
> If any of you are curious, here's a link to the details on the underwater
> pano rig we're using.  The results are phenomenal!  No noticeable parallax
> error.
>
>
>
> http://digitaldivemaster.com/UnderWater-Panoramic-Tripod-Head-Description.ht
> m
>
>
>
> We've shot several pano's on a local shipwreck, plus at a local quarry.
> I'll be uploading them shortly.  Shooting is easier and stitching is more
> difficult than I expected. PTgui only found 3 control points on one set, and
> none at all on the others. Part of the problem is the amount of debris
> floating in the water, plus there are some larger objects that bob around
> (they are secured, but are able to move.) And everything is pretty monotone.
>
>
>
> Some photos on Flickr:
>
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rickthephotoguy/sets/72157624421894976/
>
>
>
> Comments welcome!
>
>
>
> Rick Drew
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi ,
I have an NN5 and after seeing the Seitz VR Drive was wondering if there was
anything similar(a bit cheaper) which could attach to the nn5 and deliver the
same by automating the rotator?
Thanks
Mike

Hi Tom,

Thanks for sharing !

This camera support the rain ?

Best regards,
Nicolas

Hi Jim,

This 64bits plugin version is a great news !

Is it in stable release now ?

Regards,
Nicolas
http://www.nicolasburtey.net


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jim Watters <jwatters@...> wrote:
>
> On 2010/05/14 2:59 PM, scannerist wrote:
> > I recently bought a new Win 7 box and am getting ready to install CS4 32 and
64 bit apps.
> >
> > What I'd like to know is whether PTAdjust can be used with 64 bit. I'm
assuming not. Would also like to know if a revision is in the works.
> >
> > I used PTAdjust plugin withe CS4 for extracting the nadir so I could remove
the tripod and then insert it back into the image. With my old XP machine, and
when I was working on extremely large images, the machine would run out of
memory during reinsertion albeit I bumped up the PC to 4GB RAM, etc. The new
machine has 12GB of RAM.
> >
> > pj
> >
>
> I have a test version of PanoTools plugin for PhotoShop Windows 64bit.
>
> There are several things I still want to fix.  I am in the middle of unpacking
from a move.  Once I get settled I will set aside some time to getting a release
version for both 32bit and 64bit done.
>
> In the mean time this gives 64bit Windows users an option.
> For 32bit Windows it is best to continue to use the current plugins.
>
>
> Unzip this file and copy the file to your 64bit plugin folder, by default
here.
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS4 (64 Bit)\Plug-ins\Filters
> http://photocreations.ca/panotools/PTFilters_x64.zip
>
> Please report back any problems or issues so they can be corrected.
>
> --
> Jim Watters
> http://photocreations.ca
>

Hi,

The best stage to sharpen panos is the initial fisheye images, before they are
stitched.

Actually, sharpening cube faces is the next best option.

The worst option is to sharpen the final equirect. when you do, you'll get some
weird stuff at the zenith / nadir. I know it's the easiest way (and i've
sharpened many panos at this stage) but it is not the optimum time to do your
sharpening of panos.

If you must sharpen the final equirect, you could consider not sharpening the
zenith/nadir portions of the image.

Jeffrey

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "simon" <simon@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Apart from the other suggestions, I've had this occur in the past when
sharpening a cubic (using Ultra-sharpen pro) before converting to the final
equilateral. Now just sharpen, if required, just before making the final output.
> Simon
>

Just bought a Canon G11 after having a G7 for years.(Not sure if I shoulda
bought a G10)

Can anyone recommend a good fisheye? Theres lots of cheap (and nasty?) on ebay,
but wondered what you guys use. Its only for fun so dont have to be real pro
standard stuff, but I dont want a real crappy on neither.
Thanks All
Mike

For a fisheye converter lens use one of: Nikon fc-e8, Nikon fc-e9 or
IPIX/Soligor.

You can read about them on the FishList --

http://panopticus.altervista.org/fishlist/adapters.htm

Could you let me know how you would attach a fisheye to a g11?

Mike wrote:
> Just bought a Canon G11 after having a G7 for years.(Not sure if I shoulda
bought a G10)
>
> Can anyone recommend a good fisheye? Theres lots of cheap (and nasty?) on
ebay, but wondered what you guys use. Its only for fun so dont have to be real
pro standard stuff, but I dont want a real crappy on neither.
> Thanks All
> Mike
>
>
>