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#45762 From: "prague" <360cities@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 8:50 am
Subject: Re: Action ... no fall protection
jefffreymartin
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Dave,

It's Germany, not Texas. In Germany, men are men ;-)))



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "texas360dave" <texas360dave@...> wrote:
>
> Nice panorama.
>
> Where is the Safety Engineer ?
>
> Safety Issues: Men not wearing hard hats, No handrails. Walk board needs toe
rails.
>
> Men are not wearing fall protection devices.
> 1 Man are wearing tennis shoes.
> Other man maybe wearing steel toe boots not sure.
>
> Men near the crane are not wearing hard hats.  Jobsite signage should have
fence signs saying "Hard Hat Area".
>
> Vertical reinforcement rod pointing upwards do not have protective caps.
>
> Do not see industrial fire extinguisher.  It might be hiding.
>
> Construction site needs clean up.  Do not see a portable toilet.
>
> Really nice panorama.  Good Job! LOLLL  You might show it to the contractors
safety inspector.
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@> wrote:
> >
> > While I recently visited the construction site of a climbing hall which I am
documenting for our local Alpenverein (www.bavaria360.de/dav) these guys had
start to build the concrete walls and there were all these bright colours in our
fall-sun at noon ... I couldn't resist and luckily I carried my 4-shooter with
me ;)
> >
> > http://bavaria360.de/dav/101029_2.html
> >
> > Boy, I couldn't imagine how many things can move in such a short time, hehe.
And yes, I know, next time I'll better take care of my shadows ;)
> >
> > Enjoy
> > Jürgen
> >
>

#45763 From: "erik_leeman" <erik.leeman@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 9:01 am
Subject: Re: Bohemian Paradise, Czech Republic
erik_leeman
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Dear Roger,

Looking at the webstats over the last few days it seems I seriously
underestimated the willingness of people to download panofiles of over 10MB. I
expected only a handful would, but although not huge by any standard, the
numbers really surprised me.
This made me reconsider my plans, I think maybe I should make a special 'branch'
on my website for huge panos for those who have the bandwidth and suitable
hardware.
I'll take some time though, because I'll need to move all QuickTime and
Webkit/CSS3 versions over to Amazon S3, I simply don't have the room for both on
my own website.

Well, better get to it then : )

Thanks for having a look and your kind words Roger!

Kind regards,

Erik Leeman

(<http://www.erikleeman.com> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/erik-nl/>)

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger D. Williams" wrote:
> I'm sorry that they will only be available for such a short time.
> They are so beautiful that they would repay many visits.
>
> When I was a rock climber (50 years ago! I think I would have had
> fun on those rocks in the forest.
>
> Roger W.
> --
> Business: www.adex-japan.com
> Pleasure: www.usefilm.com/member/roger

#45764 From: Matthew Rogers <matthew@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 9:12 am
Subject: Re: Re: Canon EF 8-15mm f/4 L USM Fisheye
threesixtypr...
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The due date of the lens has now been pushed out to March 2011 so I guess we'll
be seeing it in May :(

Matt


On 25 Oct 2010, at 15:16, Luca Vascon wrote:

> >
> > The Tokina is fine at 10-12mm. Just as good as Nikkor 10.5mm actually I
> > would call it superior to the 10.5 as the 10.5mm also reduces the resolution
> > at the 160-180 area with 20%.
> >
> > Regarding the Sigma 15mm I got this Canon-Sigma test sent to me by John
> > Houghton.
> > http://www.gletscherbruch.de/foto/test/fisheye/fish.html
> >
> > Hans
> >
>
> Interesting link, thanx!
> The 15mm Canon I had been testing has probably something that is not ok.
> The results I had with the Sigma are actually very very close to the ones
> John brings out. Slightly better at the borders after CA correction. The
> lens has sweet spot at f8, weak borders at f2.8 with vignetting, recovering
> and beeing good from 3.5.
> I heard good and bad things about the 15mm Canon, but I see good results
> from you, John and others. We all know sigma had some problems in uniformity
> of production, specially with some difficult lenses as 12-24 fullframe,
> maybe there is a bunch of weak 15Canon?
>
> Very curious to see 8-15.
>
>
>
>



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#45765 From: Willy Kaemena <panokaemena@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 9:55 am
Subject: Re: Re: Action ... no fall protection
panokaemena
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Hi Texas Dave

all of your concerns are valid and  also the rule in Germany. Unfortunately you
see these  behaviors  still quite often on small construction sites and in small
companies, where the safety  awareness is still not on the required level.
And yes  a panorama is the ideal media to see ALL of these deficiencies and it
is easy to spot and point to them.

For Jürgen: this could be a new business model  selling  panos for improving the
safety on small  construction sites.

Willy




On Nov 2, 2010, at 9:50, prague wrote:

>
> Dave,
>
> It's Germany, not Texas. In Germany, men are men ;-)))
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "texas360dave" <texas360dave@...> wrote:
> >
> > Nice panorama.
> >
> > Where is the Safety Engineer ?
> >
> > Safety Issues: Men not wearing hard hats, No handrails. Walk board needs toe
rails.
> >
> > Men are not wearing fall protection devices.
> > 1 Man are wearing tennis shoes.
> > Other man maybe wearing steel toe boots not sure.
> >
> > Men near the crane are not wearing hard hats. Jobsite signage should have
fence signs saying "Hard Hat Area".
> >
> > Vertical reinforcement rod pointing upwards do not have protective caps.
> >
> > Do not see industrial fire extinguisher. It might be hiding.
> >
> > Construction site needs clean up. Do not see a portable toilet.
> >
> > Really nice panorama. Good Job! LOLLL You might show it to the contractors
safety inspector.
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@> wrote:
> > >
> > > While I recently visited the construction site of a climbing hall which I
am documenting for our local Alpenverein (www.bavaria360.de/dav) these guys had
start to build the concrete walls and there were all these bright colours in our
fall-sun at noon ... I couldn't resist and luckily I carried my 4-shooter with
me ;)
> > >
> > > http://bavaria360.de/dav/101029_2.html
> > >
> > > Boy, I couldn't imagine how many things can move in such a short time,
hehe. And yes, I know, next time I'll better take care of my shadows ;)
> > >
> > > Enjoy
> > > Jürgen
> > >
> >
>
> _,___



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#45766 From: "ptgroup" <ptgroup@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 10:37 am
Subject: AW: Re: Low light shot with flash
mhc954
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Using 2 flashes is a good idea.
I´ll have to think about this too, maybee 2 flashes on a pole app. 50cm
below the camera in vertical position.
so you can tilt the flash(es) to illuminate the important object or all
around like yours.
Not so easy to mount them onto the pole though.

ciao
mike
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Auftrag von onezebra1
   Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. November 2010 05:42
   An: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
   Betreff: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Low light shot with flash





   Here's a new test shot. This was done with a Canon 5D-II, ISO/400, two
Canon 430EXII flash units (one on each side of the camera) a Nikon 10.5mm
lens @ f/2.8, up on a 14 foot pole.
   There's still dust showing up in front of the lens, next step is to make
up a rubber lens hood and give it a test.
   These flash units where set to full flash for this test which will also
show more dust.
   When the pano opens you will see two shadows from the small tree, In the
opposite direction you will see the two flash reflections the car's window.
   http://www.indiavrtours.com/vrphotos/night_test2.html

   Roger Berry






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#45767 From: PanoToolsNG.10.m8@...
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 10:49 am
Subject: RE: Re: Action ... no fall protection
grant_1947
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Of course you could be shooting yourself in the foot.

Small construction sites (or any others for that matter) may then be
reluctant to let people on their site to take photos in future.

Cheers,
Darren.

)-----Original Message-----
)From: Willy Kaemena
)
)Hi Texas Dave
)
)all of your concerns are valid and  also the rule in Germany.
)Unfortunately you see these  behaviors  still quite often on
)small construction sites and in small companies, where the
)safety  awareness is still not on the required level.
)And yes  a panorama is the ideal media to see ALL of these
)deficiencies and it is easy to spot and point to them.
)
)For Jürgen: this could be a new business model  selling  panos
)for improving the safety on small  construction sites.
)
)Willy
)

#45768 From: PanoToolsNG.10.m8@...
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 10:54 am
Subject: RE: Re: Bohemian Paradise, Czech Republic
grant_1947
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This may not be a very objective test.
As you didn't have an alternative model to view, everyone who wanted to
look, 'had' to then open the 'huge panos'.

I only looked at one of them.

Cheers,
Darren.

)-----Original Message-----
)From: erik_leeman
)
)Dear Roger,
)
)Looking at the webstats over the last few days it seems I
)seriously underestimated the willingness of people to download
)panofiles of over 10MB. I expected only a handful would, but
)although not huge by any standard, the numbers really surprised me.
)This made me reconsider my plans, I think maybe I should make
)a special 'branch' on my website for huge panos for those who
)have the bandwidth and suitable hardware.
)I'll take some time though, because I'll need to move all
)QuickTime and Webkit/CSS3 versions over to Amazon S3, I simply
)don't have the room for both on my own website.
)
)Well, better get to it then : )
)
)Thanks for having a look and your kind words Roger!
)
)Kind regards,
)
)Erik Leeman
)

#45769 From: "Jeffrey Martin | 360Cities.net" <360cities@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 11:01 am
Subject: krpano ipad is live
jefffreymartin
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we're now using krpano on the ipad version of 360cities (we got rid of the
homebrew viewer that we launched 2 weeks ago). check it out. it's nice and
smooth. also with a sort of "fullscreen" functionality. we also have it
working on the home page. still it doesn't work on some of the other pages
(profile pages etc.) but we'll get to those eventually.


Jeffrey


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#45770 From: Henri Smeets <henri@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 11:14 am
Subject: Re: krpano ipad is live
henri_smeets
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Great news, even more pano-fun!
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#45771 From: "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 11:20 am
Subject: Re: Action ... no fall protection
jrgen_schrader
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Yep, you are all right and when I thought of climbing up there I checked for
possible restrictions and when I saw these guys even not wearing hardhats I was
sure they wouldn't cuase me trouble :)

Regarding the new business I am sure one would make a LOT more money if he
approaches these companies for NOT publishing such images. ^^

Jürgen


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Willy Kaemena <panokaemena@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Texas Dave
>
> all of your concerns are valid and  also the rule in Germany. Unfortunately
you see these  behaviors  still quite often on small construction sites and in
small companies, where the safety  awareness is still not on the required level.
> And yes  a panorama is the ideal media to see ALL of these deficiencies and it
is easy to spot and point to them.
>
> For Jürgen: this could be a new business model  selling  panos for improving
the safety on small  construction sites.
>
> Willy
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 9:50, prague wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > It's Germany, not Texas. In Germany, men are men ;-)))
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "texas360dave" <texas360dave@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nice panorama.
> > >
> > > Where is the Safety Engineer ?
> > >
> > > Safety Issues: Men not wearing hard hats, No handrails. Walk board needs
toe rails.
> > >
> > > Men are not wearing fall protection devices.
> > > 1 Man are wearing tennis shoes.
> > > Other man maybe wearing steel toe boots not sure.
> > >
> > > Men near the crane are not wearing hard hats. Jobsite signage should have
fence signs saying "Hard Hat Area".
> > >
> > > Vertical reinforcement rod pointing upwards do not have protective caps.
> > >
> > > Do not see industrial fire extinguisher. It might be hiding.
> > >
> > > Construction site needs clean up. Do not see a portable toilet.
> > >
> > > Really nice panorama. Good Job! LOLLL You might show it to the contractors
safety inspector.
> > >
> > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > While I recently visited the construction site of a climbing hall which
I am documenting for our local Alpenverein (www.bavaria360.de/dav) these guys
had start to build the concrete walls and there were all these bright colours in
our fall-sun at noon ... I couldn't resist and luckily I carried my 4-shooter
with me ;)
> > > >
> > > > http://bavaria360.de/dav/101029_2.html
> > > >
> > > > Boy, I couldn't imagine how many things can move in such a short time,
hehe. And yes, I know, next time I'll better take care of my shadows ;)
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy
> > > > Jürgen
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > _,___
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#45772 From: Matt Smith <masmith@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Action ... no fall protection
quijibo46201
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I was thinking the same thing. The business model might be best if it
was "Not to Publish".

Matt Smith
PhotoSpherix
317.396.5791
360 Product Photography
Indianapolis, Indiana USA
http://www.photospherix.com

On Nov 2, 2010, at 7:20 AM, jrgen_schrader wrote:

> Yep, you are all right and when I thought of climbing up there I
> checked for possible restrictions and when I saw these guys even not
> wearing hardhats I was sure they wouldn't cuase me trouble :)
>
> Regarding the new business I am sure one would make a LOT more money
> if he approaches these companies for NOT publishing such images. ^^
>
> Jürgen
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Willy Kaemena <panokaemena@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Texas Dave
>>
>> all of your concerns are valid and  also the rule in Germany.
>> Unfortunately you see these  behaviors  still quite often on small
>> construction sites and in small companies, where the safety
>> awareness is still not on the required level.
>> And yes  a panorama is the ideal media to see ALL of these
>> deficiencies and it is easy to spot and point to them.
>>
>> For Jürgen: this could be a new business model  selling  panos for
>> improving the safety on small  construction sites.
>>
>> Willy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2010, at 9:50, prague wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> It's Germany, not Texas. In Germany, men are men ;-)))
>>>
>>> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "texas360dave" <texas360dave@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nice panorama.
>>>>
>>>> Where is the Safety Engineer ?
>>>>
>>>> Safety Issues: Men not wearing hard hats, No handrails. Walk
>>>> board needs toe rails.
>>>>
>>>> Men are not wearing fall protection devices.
>>>> 1 Man are wearing tennis shoes.
>>>> Other man maybe wearing steel toe boots not sure.
>>>>
>>>> Men near the crane are not wearing hard hats. Jobsite signage
>>>> should have fence signs saying "Hard Hat Area".
>>>>
>>>> Vertical reinforcement rod pointing upwards do not have
>>>> protective caps.
>>>>
>>>> Do not see industrial fire extinguisher. It might be hiding.
>>>>
>>>> Construction site needs clean up. Do not see a portable toilet.
>>>>
>>>> Really nice panorama. Good Job! LOLLL You might show it to the
>>>> contractors safety inspector.
>>>>
>>>> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> While I recently visited the construction site of a climbing
>>>>> hall which I am documenting for our local Alpenverein
(www.bavaria360.de/dav)
>>>>>  these guys had start to build the concrete walls and there were
>>>>> all these bright colours in our fall-sun at noon ... I couldn't
>>>>> resist and luckily I carried my 4-shooter with me ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://bavaria360.de/dav/101029_2.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Boy, I couldn't imagine how many things can move in such a short
>>>>> time, hehe. And yes, I know, next time I'll better take care of
>>>>> my shadows ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy
>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _,___
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>



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#45773 From: Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Action ... no fall protection
si_lander
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I believe that the safety rules are much more strickt in EU than in US. My
younger brother went to US to work in a construction company, that was 15 years
ago. He was 18 years old and he didn't need to work for a money but for the
experience. He was very dissapointed with the safety and working conditions in
US in general. Even he had not much experience he worked on a hi altitude and on
-20°C. For him the experinece was as coming from the 1st World to 4th World. He
was in Brazil later and working there was much more safer.
I have been following the construction work in several places and documenting it
with VRs. I got a permition only when I agreed to wear a helmet, but the use of
helmets was not always strict as it was not always needed...he is the set of
VRs: http://www.burger.si/DOGODKI/2009_MesarskiMost/seznam.html.


Bostjan





________________________________
From: prague <360cities@...>
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:50:58 AM
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Action ... no fall protection



Dave,

It's Germany, not Texas. In Germany, men are men ;-)))

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "texas360dave" <texas360dave@...> wrote:
>
> Nice panorama.
>
> Where is the Safety Engineer ?
>
> Safety Issues: Men not wearing hard hats, No handrails. Walk board needs toe
>rails.
>
>
> Men are not wearing fall protection devices.
> 1 Man are wearing tennis shoes.
> Other man maybe wearing steel toe boots not sure.
>
> Men near the crane are not wearing hard hats.  Jobsite signage should have
>fence signs saying "Hard Hat Area".
>
> Vertical reinforcement rod pointing upwards do not have protective caps.
>
> Do not see industrial fire extinguisher.  It might be hiding.
>
> Construction site needs clean up.  Do not see a portable toilet.
>
> Really nice panorama.  Good Job! LOLLL  You might show it to the contractors
>safety inspector.
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@> wrote:
> >
> > While I recently visited the construction site of a climbing hall which I am
>documenting for our local Alpenverein (www.bavaria360.de/dav) these guys had
>start to build the concrete walls and there were all these bright colours in
our
>fall-sun at noon ... I couldn't resist and luckily I carried my 4-shooter with
>me ;)
> >
> > http://bavaria360.de/dav/101029_2.html
> >
> > Boy, I couldn't imagine how many things can move in such a short time, hehe.
>And yes, I know, next time I'll better take care of my shadows ;)
> >
> > Enjoy
> > Jürgen
> >
>




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#45774 From: Wim Koornneef <wim.koornneef@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: Action ... no fall protection
wim.koornneef
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Hello Jürgen,

I fully agree with Dave about the safety issues, I had the same thoughts
after the first view of this very nice panorama.
I don't think there is a lot of difference about safety regulations between
The Netherlands and Germany so I guess it must be an attitude issue of the
local builders ....

Wim

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#45775 From: Wim Koornneef <wim.koornneef@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Bohemian Paradise, Czech Republic
wim.koornneef
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Erik thanks for sharing your fine panos of this beautiful place.
Downloading the large panos (I looked all of them) was not an issue for me,
after all you gave a clear warning that the panos are huge.

Best,
Wim
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#45776 From: "John Houghton" <j.houghton@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: Bohemian Paradise, Czech Republic
panostar
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Very nice, Erik.  I appreciate the natural rendering of the colours and the lack
of artifacts.  The panoramas loaded in acceptable times for me of between 10 and
20 seconds, so not a problem.

John

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "erik_leeman" <erik.leeman@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> For those with a taste for green stuff and rocks and a healthy dislike of
concrete and bricks, AND(!) with BIG screens and FAST internet connections, I've
got some ridiculously large panoramas to show you:
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/Direct-to-Fullscreen-CeskyRaj>
>
> Only Flash10, file size is about 13MB each.
>
> When you click on a thumbnail a VR-panorama will load and open in full screen.
>
> Why so large? Cube face size is 2880x2880 and they're highly detailed.
>
> I shot them in June of this year in the Czech Republic, and really like them
myself. I hope some of you will like them as well.
>
> Please note: I will only keep these very large versions on my website for a
week of so because I need the space for other things.
>
> Thanks for having a look!
>
> Erik Leeman
>
> (<http://www.erikleeman.com> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/erik-nl/>)
>

#45777 From: AYRTON <avi@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 3:20 pm
Subject: Microsoft moving away from Silverlight to ---> HTML5
vrimages
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Just reading it now :

"Microsoft server president Bob Muglia late this week confirmed a broader
shift at the company *away from Silverlight on the web and towards HTML5*."
Here:
<
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-our-strategy-with-silverlight-has-\
shifted/7834
>

and here too:
<
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/10/31/microsoft.backs.html5.over.silverl\
ight/
>

best
A




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+ 55 11 3717 5131 - SP
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#45778 From: bigwade <celsius@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: Canon EF 8-15mm f/4 L USM Fisheye
bw19h
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Sig/canon (http://www.gletscherbruch.de/foto/test/fisheye/fish.html) is a
matter of production and focus.
Hans, you ever had a RAW file for download (not sure, panoguide?) and it's
not better or worse than my Sig 15 IMHO
MY Tokina @15mm is worse :-)

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#45779 From: "johnmyrstad" <johnmyrstad@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 6:16 pm
Subject: 5DMk2 & Canon 14mm ?
johnmyrstad
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Hi folks.

Have any of you produced 360`s with 5Dmk2 and Canon 14mm f2.8 lens. I`d like to
check out the quality of the combination.

John Myrstad

#45780 From: "Hans" <hans@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: Canon EF 8-15mm f/4 L USM Fisheye
panoramicsdk
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, bigwade <celsius@...> wrote:
>
>
> Sig/canon (http://www.gletscherbruch.de/foto/test/fisheye/fish.html) is a
> matter of production and focus.
> Hans, you ever had a RAW file for download (not sure, panoguide?) and it's
> not better or worse than my Sig 15 IMHO
> MY Tokina @15mm is worse :-)


I never had aSigma 15mm but I have this test comparing the Tokina and the Canon
at 15mm.
http://www.panoramas.dk/panorama/canon-tokina/

Hans

#45781 From: "panovrx" <panovrx@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 7:02 pm
Subject: Re: Canon EF 8-15mm f/4 L USM Fisheye
panovrx
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans" <hans@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, bigwade <celsius@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sig/canon (http://www.gletscherbruch.de/foto/test/fisheye/fish.html) is a
> > matter of production and focus.
> > Hans, you ever had a RAW file for download (not sure, panoguide?) and it's
> > not better or worse than my Sig 15 IMHO
> > MY Tokina @15mm is worse :-)
>
>
> I never had aSigma 15mm but I have this test comparing the Tokina and the
Canon at 15mm.
> http://www.panoramas.dk/panorama/canon-tokina/
>
> Hans
>

Compared with a Nikkor 10.5mm my Sigma 15mm has a different kind of flare
behavior -- ie. a general veiling haze compared to the more compact (and often
more retouchable) flare artefacts of the Nikkor. The Nikkor is much sharper wide
open but stopped down they have the same sort of sharpness I would say. The
Nikkor shaved has 200 degrees of coverage on full frame - which has its
particular uses.

Peter M

#45782 From: "erik_leeman" <erik.leeman@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: Bohemian Paradise, Czech Republic
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Thanks for the feedback John!

To make room on my webserver I moved all my QuickTimeVR/DevalVR panos over to
Amazon S3, and if I didn't make any stupid mistakes they should all still work
like they used to : )

So now I can add some more of those biggies, and I started by adding a view of
Trosky castle from a field nearby to the Bohemian Paradise test page.

I also re-uploaded the large version of a pano from Plymouth that I had to take
down earlier because of insufficient storage space.
For those who haven't seen it yet: it's a PanoToolsNG parade on its way to the
aquarium during our get-together in August. There's some pretty well-known
panoheads and panohats amongst them ; )

<http://www.erikleeman.com/HTM/DirectFullscreen-english-Plymouth.htm>

Both of these panos are about 10MB in size (you've been warned!).

I guess these might also be a useful demonstration of the qualities of a Sigma
15mm Fisheye on a Canon 5D, as discussed in another thread.

Cheers!

Erik Leeman

(<http://www.erikleeman.com> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/erik-nl/>)

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "John Houghton" wrote:
>
> Very nice, Erik.  I appreciate the natural rendering of the colours
> and the lack of artifacts.  The panoramas loaded in acceptable
> times for me of between 10 and 20 seconds, so not a problem.
>
> John

#45783 From: Fulvio Senore <mailing@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 8:51 pm
Subject: FSPViewer 64 bit available
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I have just released a 64 bit version of FSPViewer. It works exactly as
the 32 bit version but it can address more memory and it is faster.

KNOWN PROBLEM: some people have reported that when going full-screen the
screen becomes black. This only happens on some computers and often it
can be solved by pressing a few times the "F" key to toggle full-screen
mode.

http://www.fsoft.it/panorama/FSPViewer.htm

The program is the same as the one that somebody downloaded for testing:
no need to download it again.
Many thanks to all the testers who helped me with the program.

Fulvio Senore

#45784 From: bigwade <celsius@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: Bohemian Paradise, Czech Republic
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Damn Erik, a lot of Wim's..
and I'm not sure about Torsten/me at the Kiosk site, is it real :-) ???????

Nice work, HiRes Rules !!
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#45785 From: Ken Warner <kwarner000@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 10:55 pm
Subject: Re: FSPViewer 64 bit available
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Don't ya love it when stuff actually works?  Nice job Fulvio....

Fulvio Senore wrote:
> I have just released a 64 bit version of FSPViewer. It works exactly as
> the 32 bit version but it can address more memory and it is faster.
>
> KNOWN PROBLEM: some people have reported that when going full-screen the
> screen becomes black. This only happens on some computers and often it
> can be solved by pressing a few times the "F" key to toggle full-screen
> mode.
>
> http://www.fsoft.it/panorama/FSPViewer.htm
>
> The program is the same as the one that somebody downloaded for testing:
> no need to download it again.
> Many thanks to all the testers who helped me with the program.
>
> Fulvio Senore
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>

#45786 From: "Richard" <richard_j_powell@...>
Date: Tue Nov 2, 2010 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: Light Falloff and dcraw
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jim Watters <jwatters@...> wrote:
>
>   On 2010-09-23 4:26 PM, Erik Krause wrote:
> > Am 21.09.2010 22:11, schrieb Jim Watters:
> >> I was hoping to use a work flow of dcraw and PTStitcherNG to batch
processing
> >> images into panos on Linux.
> >> But I can not find any options of correcting Light Falloff using dcraw.
> > It should be possible with ImageMagick:
> > http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/photos/#vignettation
>
> Thanks Erik.
>
> I also found fulla ( tool of Hugin ), it has a similar function of using a
> flatfield image but the programmatic function has not been working since Oct
> 2008.  Only produces black images.
> http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/357564c7b5daa753
>
> nona and ufraw with lensfun can also correct vignetting.
>
> Testing what works faster/better.
>
> --
> Jim Watters
> http://photocreations.ca
>
I get 100% black output images from nona whenever I use EXR files as input
images. Am not sure if this is related.

#45787 From: John Riley <johnriley@...>
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 12:09 am
Subject: Re: Re: Action ... no fall protection
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On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:10 PM, texas360dave wrote:

> Nice panorama.
>
> Where is the Safety Engineer ?
>
> Safety Issues: Men not wearing hard hats, No handrails. Walk board needs toe
rails.
>
> Men are not wearing fall protection devices.
> 1 Man are wearing tennis shoes.
> Other man maybe wearing steel toe boots not sure.
>
> Men near the crane are not wearing hard hats. Jobsite signage should have
fence signs saying "Hard Hat Area".
>
> Vertical reinforcement rod pointing upwards do not have protective caps.
>
> Do not see industrial fire extinguisher. It might be hiding.



Well, after all, Germany IS the country that brought us the best "safety"
training video EVER!  I present to you Staplerfahrer Klaus, Der erste Arbeitstag
(Forklift Driver Klaus, First Day on the Job): 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVssz2VMJVM  If you have ever had to sit through
some gruesome training video or driver education shock film, you will appreciate
this.  Warning: very graphic, but obviously fake special effects.  As I
understand it, they even managed to get the voice actor used in many real safety
videos in Germany, lending an ever better air of verisimilitude.  Enjoy!

John

John Riley
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#45788 From: "Per B." <panograf@...>
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 1:14 am
Subject: SV: FSPViewer 64 bit available
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Thanks Fulvio. Great Viewer and even faster and smother in 64 bit. ;o)

For everyday users here is a litle handy trick Jost told me.

"By the way in Windows it's handy to have quick access to your viewer
  applications:
Open explorer and browse to
  Vista:
     C:\Users\<your user name>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo
  XP:
     C:\Documents and Settings\<your user name>\SendTo
  Right click in this folder and choose New -> Shortcut
  Then browse to the viewer application (eg FSPViewer.exe)
  Now you can quickly open any file in FSPViewer by right-clicking on the
  file name and choosing Send To -> FSPViewer
  Joost "


Windows 7 users just type: shell:sendto
and add a shortcut for FSPViewer

Per

--- Den tirs 2/11/10 skrev Fulvio Senore <mailing@...>:

Fra: Fulvio Senore <mailing@...>
Emne: [PanoToolsNG] FSPViewer 64 bit available
Til: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Dato: tirsdag 2. november 2010 21.51

I have just released a 64 bit version of FSPViewer. It works exactly as
the 32 bit version but it can address more memory and it is faster.

KNOWN PROBLEM: some people have reported that when going full-screen the
screen becomes black. This only happens on some computers and often it
can be solved by pressing a few times the "F" key to toggle full-screen
mode.

http://www.fsoft.it/panorama/FSPViewer.htm

The program is the same as the one that somebody downloaded for testing:
no need to download it again.
Many thanks to all the testers who helped me with the program.

Fulvio Senore


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#45789 From: "panovrx" <panovrx@...>
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:56 am
Subject: Flash painting an entire town
panovrx
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#45790 From: Alex Spielberg <aspielberg@...>
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:17 am
Subject: Re: FSPViewer 64 bit available
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Thanks Fulvio. Works GREAT!
Alex Spielberg, New York

On 11/2/2010 4:51 PM, Fulvio Senore wrote:
> I have just released a 64 bit version of FSPViewer. It works exactly as
> the 32 bit version but it can address more memory and it is faster.
>
> KNOWN PROBLEM: some people have reported that when going full-screen the
> screen becomes black. This only happens on some computers and often it
> can be solved by pressing a few times the "F" key to toggle full-screen
> mode.
>
> http://www.fsoft.it/panorama/FSPViewer.htm
>
> The program is the same as the one that somebody downloaded for testing:
> no need to download it again.
> Many thanks to all the testers who helped me with the program.
>
> Fulvio Senore
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>

#45791 From: Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...>
Date: Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:50 am
Subject: Re: Flash painting an entire town
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Good idea and a lot of enthusiasm. Realy great team work.
  I started with flash painting when I was documenting karst caves, that was in a
mid 90-ies. I used the master and slave flash combos. Some subterranean caverns
were huge and flashes were not powerfull enought to enlighten the entire space
so I continued with the light painting "torch" method and a number of
assistants.  I use 1000 Lumens torch now which is usefull even with work in a
smaller caves. Here is an example of one of the smaller
caves: http://www.burger.si/Jame/LogaskaJama/seznam.html and a one huge
cavern: http://www.burger.si/Jame/PlaninskaJama/07.html. In the last example the
air was extremely humid, almost foggy, but it was a study of documenting in
extreme light condition. That was almost two years ago. I can now enlighten
almost every subterranean cavern. Right now I am starting most probaby one of
mine the most dangerous subterranean Vr projects - about 600 m below the Earth's
surface and with the oxigen mask as the area will be with the hi concentration
of the methane.

Kind regards!

Bostjan



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To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 5:56:15 AM
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Flash painting an entire town


http://www.caborian.com/20101022/pintando-con-luz-toda-una-ciudad/

50 people flash paint Toledo for a night panorama
(from ITCOW 360 http://moonshine.homedns.org:2655/pano/ )

Peter M





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