On Wed, December 1, 2010 10:31 pm, Phil wrote:
> Has anyone used their Nodal Ninja rotator at a 45°+ angle or horizontally
> and had anything 'bad' happen? I don't know what the limit's are on using
> it this way and I'm assuming that it wasn't designed support a camera at
> the end of an extended horizontal monopod. Straight up vertical it's fine
> but when the it's tipped to the side the forces change on the internal
> parts.
>
> Example:
>
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/JokerHeli/temp/_MG_8972.jpg?t=1291240549

you have to ask why ?

I think it's the "Don't send" button   :Ž

Trausti

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Arie de Ruiter <esitd1@...> wrote:

>
>
> I agree! But I haven't found the button yet
>
> Arie
>
> -----------_
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Trausti Hraunfjord <
> trausti.hraunfjord@... <trausti.hraunfjord%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Arie de Ruiter
<esitd1@...<esitd1%40xs4all.nl>>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What was/is this group meant for?
> >> _______________
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >
> > Maybe it is meant for iPad/iPhone advertisements in every post people
> drop
> > off?
> >
> > Can we have that stopped too?
> >
> > Trausti
> >
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OK, Trausti

Over and out,

Arie


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At 11:39 PM 12/1/2010, you wrote:
>I think it's the "Don't send" button   :Ž
>
>Trausti
>
>On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Arie de Ruiter <esitd1@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I agree! But I haven't found the button yet
> >
> > Arie
> >
> > -----------_
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Trausti Hraunfjord <
> > trausti.hraunfjord@... <trausti.hraunfjord%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Arie de Ruiter
> <esitd1@...<esitd1%40xs4all.nl>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> What was/is this group meant for?
> > >> _______________
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPad
> > >>
> > >
> > > Maybe it is meant for iPad/iPhone advertisements in every post people
> > drop
> > > off?
> > >
> > > Can we have that stopped too?
> > >
> > > Trausti
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
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> > >
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> > > --
> > >
> > >
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I'd agree that this is pretty definitely off topic. Not to mention
being just a tiny bit insulting. Some reporters are shockingly lazy,
ignorant and biased, but please don't believe that describes all
journalists. That's like declaring all photographers to be papparazzi.

k - technical editor (i.e. a form of journalist)

On Wed, December 1, 2010 11:42 pm, Keith Martin wrote:
> I'd agree that this is pretty definitely off topic. Not to mention
> being just a tiny bit insulting. Some reporters are shockingly lazy,
> ignorant and biased, but please don't believe that describes all
> journalists. That's like declaring all photographers to be papparazzi.
>
> k - technical editor (i.e. a form of journalist)

I have noted your statements of the bleeding obvious on previous
occassions. What now prompts you to defend journalists of all people ?

mick

On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:39 PM, PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> 9a. NN Rotator Horizontal Weight/Stress Limit
>    Posted by: "Phil" philip@... philwarner007
>    Date: Wed Dec 1, 2010 2:31 pm ((PST))
>
> Has anyone used their Nodal Ninja rotator at a 45Ā°+ angle or horizontally and
had anything 'bad' happen? I don't know what the limit's are on using it this
way and I'm assuming that it wasn't designed support a camera at the end of an
extended horizontal monopod. Straight up vertical it's fine but when the it's
tipped to the side the forces change on the internal parts.
>
> Example:
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/JokerHeli/temp/_MG_8972.jpg?t=1291240549
>
> Thanks,
> Phil

I take the nadir' shot of my NN3/monopod pole panos while held at 45 degrees and
I have not noticed any issues.  I have also used the NN3/monopod set held out
horizontal w/o any problems other than the NN3 would sometimes spin from the
off-center camera COG (I had to really tighten the NN3 vertical axis set screw
to get it to stay in position while turning the pole though).

However (there is always a however) I wouldn't recommend using a quick release
between the pole and ninja.  Last spring I had my NN3 (with camera) take a 5'
fall (directly on the uncovered lens of course) when the locking edge of my
quick release plate sheared off while being carried horizontally over my
shoulder.  Apparently the torquing force of the NN3/Camera/lens weight was too
much for it when horizontal.

Camera & NN3 lived, but it meant a new fisheye due to the scratches from landing
in the sand and pea rock on the hiking trail.  The lens was a Peleng 8mm but I
am so much happier with its replacement (a Sigma 8mm) that I'm not sure if I can
classify the incident as something 'bad'.


David

Carpet bombing never brings justice... and to put all journalists into a
group labeled "incompetent copycats", might seem unjustified, but the
reality people live in, is that "every" story is simply a copy of a copy
from the same controlled source, and that source is normally anything but
investigative and critical.

WMD's... just to name an old case everyone are aware of  ... no
investigative journalism surfaced in large media... and that is shameful.
Real journalism is dead, and now it is getting the last nails hammered into
the coffin.  Several military attacks on photo journalists in the current
wars have been frequent... the journalists have been labeled as
"terrorists", and that has been all the justification that was needed.
Camera ban in Kuwait... news ban in the rest of the world.... no, this
doesn't sit well with me, nor should it sit well with anyone else.  I have,
as so many of you have probably too... been stopped by police while shooting
panos, suspected of being a terrorist, and ordered to move away with my
equipment, or I WOULD get arrested.  This is the reality of the world we
live in, and even if some people might think that bringing in the current
situation surrounding wikileaks might be off topic (it might seem that way)
then it is very much on topic... it is the right to report that is under
attack, be that reporting with words, images or moving images.

The more people are aware of the situation, the better it is for everyone.
This does already affect us who use cameras... and things are only to get
worse.  That is why it is important to fight the fight on the side of those
who are fighting for our rights, and the rights of all just people.

Spreading this information is important, and on topic...  and I mean no
disrespect to anyone by saying so.  Maybe it's the way people choose to look
at the situation, that defines if they can or can't see the connection to
our field.

Trausti



On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Keith Martin <keith@...> wrote:

>
>
> I'd agree that this is pretty definitely off topic. Not to mention
> being just a tiny bit insulting. Some reporters are shockingly lazy,
> ignorant and biased, but please don't believe that describes all
> journalists. That's like declaring all photographers to be papparazzi.
>
> k - technical editor (i.e. a form of journalist)
>


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Hi Matt,

Thanks for the info about this plug-in. I will test it this week.

Please have a look to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/z3Nl66Y8ll8?hd=1

I wonder if this scenario is possible:
1) to record 360video (movement through the building - like my example on
YouTube)
2) to separate individual frames to jpg files
3) to upload for example 100-1000 frames (individual panoramas) to Photosynth
4) to export point cloud with a 3D representation of the building from
Photosynth

What do you think about such approach?
Spherical video camera like Ladybug2/3 generates a lot of visual information
which (I hope) is ok to create basic 3D model of a space. Am I right?

Karol Kwiatek
www.charles3d.info

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Uyttendaele" <matt@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello.  We've released a new Photoshop Plug-in that enables users to
> upload panoramas to the free Photosynth hosting service.  The plug-in
> supports equirectangular, cylindrical, and rectilinear source images,
> converts these to a cube-map, and uploads the full-resolution result to
> the web.   More information is available here:
> http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/
> <http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/\
> >
>
> Here is a nice example of a full 360x180 uploaded by Bernhard Vogl:
> http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258d
> <http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258\
> d>
>
> For quicky panoramas - one other fun feature of the plug-in is that it
> will re-project a single fisheye image to a cube-map and upload that
> result.
>
> The Photoshop Plug-in is currently Windows only, but the Photosynth
> interactive viewer works on Windows+Mac.
>
> -Matt Uyttendaele, Microsoft
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

I want to make one also, but have to figure out angle degrees to bend at and
length of bottom rail. Any pointers?

A Kielcz

Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.

--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Phil <philip@...> wrote:

From: Phil <philip@...>
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Canon 15mm lens, making new L-bracket
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 4:59 PM







Ā 









       You can see a picture of his L bracket on his website.



http://indiavrtours.com/about_us.html



Here's one that I made that's almost the same as Roger's but my aluminum is a
little wider and I added a quick release for the camera.



http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/JokerHeli/temp/_MG_8972.jpg?t=1291240549



Phil



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, A Kielcz <roblee007@...> wrote:

>

> can you post picture of your bracket?

>

> A Kielcz

>

> Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.

























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Looks interesting.
I've been using Irfanview to do my resizing in a batch file.

Do you know if you can use a set of switches in sizimg to have outer bounds
for horizontal and vertical sizes but keep the aspect of the image
regardless of landscape/portrait orientation.


Eg. I can use the following command for irfanview to resize an image to have
it's longest edge be 800pix
(so the height would be 800pix if the image was in portrait or the width
would be 800pix if the image was in landscape)


"i_view32.exe" <sourceimage_path&name> /resize=(800,800) /aspectratio
/resample /convert="<destinationimage_path&name>"


Cheers,
Darren.

)-----Original Message-----
)From: John Riley
)
)If you are resizing, you may want to consider sizimg from Ken
)Turkowski: http://www.realitypixels.com/products/sizimg.html.
)
)John Riley
)johnriley@...
)(h)864-461-3504
)(c)864-431-7075
)(w)864-503-5775
)
)On Nov 30, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Peter wrote:
)
)> Hi,
)> I want do convert thousands of images using the commandline
)tool imagemagick.
)>
)> Unfortunately, I don't find the things I'm searching for at
)> http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/ I am quite sure, that
)every bit of information is in there, but it's to time
)consuming for me, to find it.
)>
)> Do you know of any easy to read/use tutorial or book, that
)you could recommend?
)>
)> Thanks!
)> Peter
)>
)>
)
)
)
)[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
)

I want to replace battery in my Luna Pro lightmeter and since mercury batteries
are no longer made, I have a difficulty finding an equivalent replacement.
Any suggestions?

A Kielcz

Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.




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I went out today and tested my new Canon 15mm lens setup overlooking Lake
Casitas along Hwy 150, Casitas Pass Rd.
I can't say that I like the lens flare or Chromatic Aberration from this lens. I
may return it and wait for the new Canon 8-15mm lens.
I posted this shot on 360ctiies, I wanted to see how the larger image would look
compared to others I have posted there.
http://www.360cities.net/image/lake-casitas-view-from-hwy-150-casitas-pass-rd#20\
0.96,-8.03,27.7

I will try to post a image of my bracket tomorrow,

Roger Berry

Is this what you're looking for?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/89868-REG/Gossen_GO_4145_Adapter_Kit_Batte\
ry_Holder_for.html

Roger Berry


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, A Kielcz <roblee007@...> wrote:
>
> I want to replace battery in my Luna Pro lightmeter and since mercury
batteries are no longer made, I have a difficulty finding an equivalent
replacement.
> Any suggestions?
>
> A Kielcz
>
> Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Trausti, personally, I think politics should be discussed
face-to-face, as there is SO much scope for misunderstanding and
raised blood pressure. And regardless of the importance of
broad-based political discourse it is patently not on topic in a
forum meant specifically for panorama issues.

Mick, I have spent a significant proportion of my professional time
since the early 1990s writing for magazines. So I *am* a journalist,
albeit not a full-time one any more. The tar brush is a crude
implement, and reality isn't black and white.

Maybe it is time to seek panorama-specific conversation elsewhere.

k

Roger, the CA is very easy to correct during RAW development. Many others will
agree that for a fisheye lense the optic quality of the Canon 15 mm is amongst
the finest you will get. I don't expect the 8-15 have less aberrations.

Jürgen

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@...> wrote:
>
> I went out today and tested my new Canon 15mm lens setup overlooking Lake
Casitas along Hwy 150, Casitas Pass Rd.
> I can't say that I like the lens flare or Chromatic Aberration from this lens.
I may return it and wait for the new Canon 8-15mm lens.
> I posted this shot on 360ctiies, I wanted to see how the larger image would
look compared to others I have posted there.
>
http://www.360cities.net/image/lake-casitas-view-from-hwy-150-casitas-pass-rd#20\
0.96,-8.03,27.7
>
> I will try to post a image of my bracket tomorrow,
>
> Roger Berry
>

666 hugs back, my brazilian friend :)

maybe this FAQ is badly written.

what it means to say is that 360cities requires a certain level of quality
(fully spherical panoramas, etc.) to join.

panomonkey (and other stitching software) can create any kind of garbage.
garbage in -> garbage out. right? so, you cannot make garbage on panomonkey and
expect to publish that on 360cities / google earth. that's all.

is this not clear in the FAQ?


sorry about the "polyphasic exposure" mention - total nonsense i wrote that made
it from rough draft to live page. LOL. it will be removed asap :)



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, AYRTON <avi@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:45 AM, prague <360cities@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi ayrton,
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, AYRTON <avi@> wrote:
> > > Wooooow
> > > :-(
> > > Have you seen this too on this panoMONKEY :
> > > "Can I publish my panoramas on 360Cities.net?  360Cities.net is a
> > separate
> > > product from Panomonkey and has image quality standards. If your
> > panoramas
> > > meet the quality requirements of 360 Cities, then - Yes, You Can! "
> > >
> >
> > what is the problem with that?
> >
>
> hahahahaha
> You're very sarcastic Jeffrey
> 666 hugs to you
> :-)
>
> best
> AYRTON
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > Jeffrey
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> + 55 21 9982 6313 - RIO
> + 55 11 3717 5131 - SP
> http://ayrton360.com
> twitter.com/ayrton360
>
>
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>

http://www.360cities.net/search/panomonkey

these were all made using panomonkey and shot HANDHELD. i'm the first to admit
that i know the ideal way to shoot for input, so i have an advantage. the main
goal for panomonkey at this point is to show people how to shoot like this to
get the same quality.

but really, honestly,
http://www.360cities.net/image/waterfall-near-okor-czech-republic

how much better can you do spending TIME stitching this? (except my missing
hand) (yes i know many of you can do better - but you get my point i hope)

Anyway, at least one panomonkey user already has gone on to buy PTGui (that I
know of). I hope we're "increasing the size of the pie" (meaning, "it's not how
big your slice of the pie is, it's how big the pie is, that matters")

cheers,
Jeffrey



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ned Chiariello <panophoto@...> wrote:
>
> Jeffrey'
>  I thinks it's a great idea, been telling all my non panorama friends about
it. You can get a fisheye adaptor for the iPhone, has anyone tried to make a VR
panorama that way? Seems to me if you offered HTML5 as an option you could even
offer a iPhone app for uploading and viewing.
>
> On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:59 AM, Jeffrey Martin | 360Cities.net wrote:
>
> > Ok, the word got out, I was hoping we'd have things in better order before
> > all the pano folks found out about it, but hey, so it goes.
> >
> > So, yes, Panomonkey is an online stitcher. It can handle handheld, tripod,
> > fisheye, non-fisheye, etc. panoramas.
> >
> > It is still in beta and fails as often as it succeeds. Many improvements
> > have been already made but not deployed on the live site.
> >
> > Some of the more stubborn folks out there will think we're going to poison
> > the whole world of panos, or some other silly conspiracy theory.
> > Other people such as Keith ;-) will see it as just another tool which when
> > used in the right way, can be useful.
> >
> > For the experienced / pioneers / masters on this list, Panomonkey is almost
> > definitely not a tool for you. As everyone knows, I also use PTGui
> > extensively, and also Autopano Giga, and also Hugin. These are all great
> > tools which offer a degree of control far beyond what Panomonkey ever aims
> > to provide. And that is the main idea - if shot correctly, no one should
> > ever have to deal with all this technical stuff. You can if you want (and I
> > want to myself, also, as you know).
> >
> > Anyway, whoever does want to try it, please reserve any judgment for another
> > month or two - the product is really still in Beta.
> >
> > If anyone wants to help as beta testers (that means, you make a real effort
> > and put some time in to help test the site and the product) please contact
> > me off-list.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Jeffrey
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I am not talking politics... I am talking about everyday attacks on our
profession and our freedom to use cameras to take pictures.  Censorship by
others or self-censoring is not something I have respect for, but I don't
think there is anything in the contents of this discussion that should be
censored or kept out of this place, since it is about the freedom to shoot
the panoramas we are to speak about.  No freedom to use cameras... and there
will be no panoramas to talk about.  Of course, as with everything else in
life, discussions may get tainted with personal opinions and feelings, but
I'm pretty sure that everything here is still civil and in the right
spirit.  I have no interest in starting a political mud/throwing contest.  I
am however interested in making sure that people are aware of the situation
we are all facing.  I can stand by what I said, and I am pretty sure that
everyone else here, will agree with me that no one and nothing should be
allowed to take away our photographic rights, and that is the essence of my
opinions put into rants here.

... apart from that, I would love to speak to people face to face over a
couple of beers or good strong coffee, but since we are spread all over the
world, such scenarios will have to remain in one's dreams :)

As you say: reality isn't (only) black and white... that is why we have
differing views on different things... after all we are not mass produced
robots (not all of us in any case).

Enjoy the day.

Trausti



On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Keith Martin <keith@...> wrote:

>
>
> Trausti, personally, I think politics should be discussed
> face-to-face, as there is SO much scope for misunderstanding and
> raised blood pressure. And regardless of the importance of
> broad-based political discourse it is patently not on topic in a
> forum meant specifically for panorama issues.
>
> Mick, I have spent a significant proportion of my professional time
> since the early 1990s writing for magazines. So I *am* a journalist,
> albeit not a full-time one any more. The tar brush is a crude
> implement, and reality isn't black and white.
>
> Maybe it is time to seek panorama-specific conversation elsewhere.
>
> k
>
>


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finally i agree with trausti about something :)

let's have a beer trausti.



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Trausti Hraunfjord <trausti.hraunfjord@...>
wrote:
>
> Quite so.  Wikileaks is the only reliable source for news.  The rest of the
> so-called "free press" is nothing but transvestite prostitutes, pretending
> to hold an honourable position in society.

Keith Martin wrote:
> Trausti, personally, I think politics should be discussed
> face-to-face, as there is SO much scope for misunderstanding and
> raised blood pressure. And regardless of the importance of
> broad-based political discourse it is patently not on topic in a
> forum meant specifically for panorama issues.
>
> Mick, I have spent a significant proportion of my professional time
> since the early 1990s writing for magazines. So I *am* a journalist,
> albeit not a full-time one any more. The tar brush is a crude
> implement, and reality isn't black and white.
>
> Maybe it is time to seek panorama-specific conversation elsewhere.

Just do what I've done - trausti and crane have made it to my
mail box junk filter list.

   BugBear

On 12/02/2010, at 8:47 PM, paul womack wrote:
> Just do what I've done - trausti and crane have made it to my
> mail box junk filter list.

As a user I would agree with Paul. When certain people start to annoy you, add
them to your junk/trash filter. No need to pollute the list with more off topic
complaints. Simple solution.

KathyW.

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@...> wrote:
>
> Roger, the CA is very easy to correct during RAW development. Many others will
agree that for a fisheye lense the optic quality of the Canon 15 mm is amongst
the finest you will get. I don't expect the 8-15 have less aberrations.

Agree completely.
I have not seen any other fisheye yet that can compete with the Canon 15mm

But if you use it  like Roger does and trigger it to use the worst areas of it
you can not expect it to produce the best quality all over.

Even if the Canon 15mm is the best you need to stop down to F11 to have maximum
sharpness at the outer corners.
Those areas are never used when you shoot normally with 6+1 images.

Hans


>
> Jürgen
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@> wrote:
> >
> > I went out today and tested my new Canon 15mm lens setup overlooking Lake
Casitas along Hwy 150, Casitas Pass Rd.
> > I can't say that I like the lens flare or Chromatic Aberration from this
lens. I may return it and wait for the new Canon 8-15mm lens.
> > I posted this shot on 360ctiies, I wanted to see how the larger image would
look compared to others I have posted there.
> >
http://www.360cities.net/image/lake-casitas-view-from-hwy-150-casitas-pass-rd#20\
0.96,-8.03,27.7
> >
> > I will try to post a image of my bracket tomorrow,
> >
> > Roger Berry
> >
>

Hi Karol,

Although not officially supported by Microsoft, exporting the point cloud is
actually possible, e.g. with http://synthexport.codeplex.com/releases/view/42256

I doubt that you can work with 360 degree input images, but you can feed e.g.
the extracted cubefaces to Photosynth.
I have made a similar approach with a normal camera, you can see the results
here:
http://www.photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=d28bea2a-642c-45a4-a190-25cc93e8eaaa

You still would have to create normals, extract textures etc. to create a 3D
model of your subject.
If you use a large number of images, the point cloud can become very dense.
Maybe - in the near future - one will be able to directly use the point cloud
with minimal cleanup, e.g.
http://www.photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=b2f1d5cf-3dcf-4ca6-97d4-90f606707809
(explore the vase!)    ;-)

Best regards
Bernhard



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> Datum: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 01:13:03 -0000
> Von: "panometr" <k_kwiatek@...>
> An: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Upload Panoramas to Photosynth - 360video to
Photosynth?

> Hi Matt,
>
> Thanks for the info about this plug-in. I will test it this week.
>
> Please have a look to this video:
> http://www.youtube.com/embed/z3Nl66Y8ll8?hd=1
>
> I wonder if this scenario is possible:
> 1) to record 360video (movement through the building - like my example on
> YouTube)
> 2) to separate individual frames to jpg files
> 3) to upload for example 100-1000 frames (individual panoramas) to
> Photosynth
> 4) to export point cloud with a 3D representation of the building from
> Photosynth
>
> What do you think about such approach?
> Spherical video camera like Ladybug2/3 generates a lot of visual
> information which (I hope) is ok to create basic 3D model of a space. Am I
right?
>
> Karol Kwiatek
> www.charles3d.info
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Uyttendaele" <matt@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello.  We've released a new Photoshop Plug-in that enables users to
> > upload panoramas to the free Photosynth hosting service.  The plug-in
> > supports equirectangular, cylindrical, and rectilinear source images,
> > converts these to a cube-map, and uploads the full-resolution result to
> > the web.   More information is available here:
> > http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/
> >
> <http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/\
> > >
> >
> > Here is a nice example of a full 360x180 uploaded by Bernhard Vogl:
> > http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258d
> >
> <http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258\
> > d>
> >
> > For quicky panoramas - one other fun feature of the plug-in is that it
> > will re-project a single fisheye image to a cube-map and upload that
> > result.
> >
> > The Photoshop Plug-in is currently Windows only, but the Photosynth
> > interactive viewer works on Windows+Mac.
> >
> > -Matt Uyttendaele, Microsoft
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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>

Well observed, Hans, you are right. I didn't think of that.
In this case for outdoor sceneries I would prefer to tilt the camera down and
shoot the Zenit separately. But to me it looks as if Roger didn't correct any
CAs at all as they were clearly visible even in the small window.

I did something similar here:
http://bavaria360.de/maxsolar/eggstaett_1.html
from about 4m, single pole, with the 15mm mounted on my panohead.
As I had never done this before with the 15mm I took plenty of images and picked
a few for stitching. With a ring solution and some practice that might work
pretty well. Don't ask how long it took for the Nadir patch, though ;)

Jürgen



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans" <hans@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "jrgen_schrader" <panorama@> wrote:
> >
> > Roger, the CA is very easy to correct during RAW development. Many others
will agree that for a fisheye lense the optic quality of the Canon 15 mm is
amongst the finest you will get. I don't expect the 8-15 have less aberrations.
>
> Agree completely.
> I have not seen any other fisheye yet that can compete with the Canon 15mm
>
> But if you use it  like Roger does and trigger it to use the worst areas of it
you can not expect it to produce the best quality all over.
>
> Even if the Canon 15mm is the best you need to stop down to F11 to have
maximum sharpness at the outer corners.
> Those areas are never used when you shoot normally with 6+1 images.
>
> Hans
>
>
> >
> > Jürgen
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "onezebra1" <onezebra1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I went out today and tested my new Canon 15mm lens setup overlooking Lake
Casitas along Hwy 150, Casitas Pass Rd.
> > > I can't say that I like the lens flare or Chromatic Aberration from this
lens. I may return it and wait for the new Canon 8-15mm lens.
> > > I posted this shot on 360ctiies, I wanted to see how the larger image
would look compared to others I have posted there.
> > >
http://www.360cities.net/image/lake-casitas-view-from-hwy-150-casitas-pass-rd#20\
0.96,-8.03,27.7
> > >
> > > I will try to post a image of my bracket tomorrow,
> > >
> > > Roger Berry
> > >
> >
>

This issue IS relevant to us. I live in the UK and if someone had told me twenty
years ago
that I would be stopped in the streets by the authorities for taking photos, I
would have
laughed in disbelief.

This is now a commonplace event.

People have been threatened with arrest and confiscation of equipment, they have
been
forced to delete images or have been "moved on". UK photo mags now have regular
features on the latest abuses, they give away "rights" cards to refer to when
you are
stopped.

This is real and it is happening now.

It seems that the more "professional" your equipment, the more likely you are to
attract this
attention. Using a tripod is probably the highest single risk factor.

Does this sound like anyone you know?

Now Kuwait reportedly bans serious amateur public photography.

I'd like to believe that this could never happen in my country, but if I could
look twenty
years into the future, what would I see?

I'm worried.

KeithD

I have the latest version of Photosynth installed, have a valid hotmail
account, and have a Photosynth account that uses this ID.

I have installed the plugin, and PhotoShop invites me to export to
photosynth. Everything looks fine, but when I click on "upload" what
gets uploaded is a tiny portion of the full equirectangular panorama.

I have tried this twice now, and had to delete the result.

Help!

Roger W.


On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:27:01 +0900, Matt Uyttendaele <matt@...>
wrote:

>
> Hello.  We've released a new Photoshop Plug-in that enables users to
> upload panoramas to the free Photosynth hosting service.  The plug-in
> supports equirectangular, cylindrical, and rectilinear source images,
> converts these to a cube-map, and uploads the full-resolution result to
> the web.   More information is available here:
> http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/
> <http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/\
>>
>
> Here is a nice example of a full 360x180 uploaded by Bernhard Vogl:
> http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258d
> <http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258\
> d>
>
> For quicky panoramas - one other fun feature of the plug-in is that it
> will re-project a single fisheye image to a cube-map and upload that
> result.
>
> The Photoshop Plug-in is currently Windows only, but the Photosynth
> interactive viewer works on Windows+Mac.
>
> -Matt Uyttendaele, Microsoft
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>


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Umm, er, I think my face should be red. I didn't realize that the
default file format in the export screen was rectilinear. I have
changed this to equirectangular and expect that everything will be
fine. The upload is very, very slow, so I am dashing this off
while I wait to see what happens.

Roger W.

On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:55:24 +0900, Roger D. Williams
<roger@...> wrote:

> I have the latest version of Photosynth installed, have a valid hotmail
> account, and have a Photosynth account that uses this ID.
>
> I have installed the plugin, and PhotoShop invites me to export to
> photosynth. Everything looks fine, but when I click on "upload" what
> gets uploaded is a tiny portion of the full equirectangular panorama.
>
> I have tried this twice now, and had to delete the result.
>
> Help!
>
> Roger W.
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:27:01 +0900, Matt Uyttendaele
> <matt@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello.  We've released a new Photoshop Plug-in that enables users to
>> upload panoramas to the free Photosynth hosting service.  The plug-in
>> supports equirectangular, cylindrical, and rectilinear source images,
>> converts these to a cube-map, and uploads the full-resolution result to
>> the web.   More information is available here:
>> http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/
>> <http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/\
>>>
>>
>> Here is a nice example of a full 360x180 uploaded by Bernhard Vogl:
>> http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258d
>> <http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258\
>> d>
>>
>> For quicky panoramas - one other fun feature of the plug-in is that it
>> will re-project a single fisheye image to a cube-map and upload that
>> result.
>>
>> The Photoshop Plug-in is currently Windows only, but the Photosynth
>> interactive viewer works on Windows+Mac.
>>
>> -Matt Uyttendaele, Microsoft
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>
>


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Hmmmm. The panorama I just uploaded does not display as a VR panorama,
just an enlarged equirectangular image.

So all is still not well...

Roger W.

On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:55:24 +0900, Roger D. Williams
<roger@...> wrote:

> I have the latest version of Photosynth installed, have a valid hotmail
> account, and have a Photosynth account that uses this ID.
>
> I have installed the plugin, and PhotoShop invites me to export to
> photosynth. Everything looks fine, but when I click on "upload" what
> gets uploaded is a tiny portion of the full equirectangular panorama.
>
> I have tried this twice now, and had to delete the result.
>
> Help!
>
> Roger W.
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:27:01 +0900, Matt Uyttendaele
> <matt@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello.  We've released a new Photoshop Plug-in that enables users to
>> upload panoramas to the free Photosynth hosting service.  The plug-in
>> supports equirectangular, cylindrical, and rectilinear source images,
>> converts these to a cube-map, and uploads the full-resolution result to
>> the web.   More information is available here:
>> http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/
>> <http://hdview.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/panorama-uploads-from-photoshop/\
>>>
>>
>> Here is a nice example of a full 360x180 uploaded by Bernhard Vogl:
>> http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258d
>> <http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=909f4dc9-718e-4917-abb1-fd53631e258\
>> d>
>>
>> For quicky panoramas - one other fun feature of the plug-in is that it
>> will re-project a single fisheye image to a cube-map and upload that
>> result.
>>
>> The Photoshop Plug-in is currently Windows only, but the Photosynth
>> interactive viewer works on Windows+Mac.
>>
>> -Matt Uyttendaele, Microsoft
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>
>


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Hi, recently I got a request to shoot panoramas on 7 hotels on different cities,
to get ready to fill with light the bigger spaces (halls, conference rooms, etc)
I believe that I have to get some equipment as flashes or moonlight, I also take
a look to tungsten lights

I usually work with two 1000 w tungsten lights, but those are bulky and not so
reliable (I use to have some replacement bulbs) and I have to carry long cables,
search for power, etc.

I wish to find guidance on lights powered by batteries and experience on this
kind of projects

Thanks
Juan Felipe

Forget it.

If you want to substitute your 1000W tungsten lights with battery powered ones
you cannot lift the batteries :))

Best light available on the market for your purpose are Dedo lights.  They are
small, powerfull, lightweight, constant, reliable, ... all one could wish for.
Only if you look at the price list you will find a minor drawback. But as they
are used by many film crews you might be able to rent them in major cities.

Jürgen



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "felipe" <felipe_ing@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, recently I got a request to shoot panoramas on 7 hotels on different
cities, to get ready to fill with light the bigger spaces (halls, conference
rooms, etc) I believe that I have to get some equipment as flashes or moonlight,
I also take a look to tungsten lights
>
> I usually work with two 1000 w tungsten lights, but those are bulky and not so
reliable (I use to have some replacement bulbs) and I have to carry long cables,
search for power, etc.
>
> I wish to find guidance on lights powered by batteries and experience on this
kind of projects
>
> Thanks
> Juan Felipe
>