you've probably seen this,
those crafty googlers made one out of lots of large monitors...
http://www.360cities.net/image/streetview-cave-googleplex :-)
sorry for the weird stitching. i was the panohead.... on a swivel chair....




--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "zakaTo" <avgs@...> wrote:
>
> What I know is that there is this so called "cave" (Have a look at:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_Automatic_Virtual_Environment) that has been
used more some years now ... and that could be used in a very basic form as a
cubic pano viewer.
>
> A simplified 3 faces version of it could also be posible. Some years back, the
software to run this cave system was (i think) gnu open and you could bravely
experiment with it (not an easy task anyway!) ... not sure anymore though as
this is quite backgrounded for me these days.
>
> hope it helps!
>
> Antonio
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Stuart" <henry@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to project a panorama on to three cube
faces in an installation? The idea would be that the viewer stands inside the
three cube faces and moves the images around them using a tablet/computer. So it
gives the feeling of actually being in the image.
> >
> > I'm sure I've seen talk of this in the past but just can't find reference to
it!
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Henry
> > http://www.sphericalimages.com
> >
>

> Does anyone know if it is possible to project a panorama on to three
> cube faces in an installation?

As Antonio mentioned, a CAVE is what you describe. They even made them with 4
walls and a ceiling, but these turned out to be slightly problematic in the
sense that humans apparently need oxygen... In a CAVE there would typically be
one "main" viewer/person whose head was being tracked, so the perspective could
be corrected for what ever position the viewer was in.

But why settle for a cube? Cubes are boring ;-). You can project onto nearly
everything!
http://fieldofview.com/projects/lights-pictura

'do

> >> > http://www.blof.nl

> And the camera in their setup looks like a Ladybug 2......

The camera looks like a Ladybug indeed, but the video quality doesn't. This is
seriously some of the best ladybug footage I have seen sofar. How come these
guys can get quality video out of these cameras, while google clearly can't
(ref: google arts project).

Am 01.03.2011 16:52, schrieb Aldo Hoeben:
>
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to project a panorama on to three
> > cube faces in an installation?
>
> As Antonio mentioned, a CAVE is what you describe. They even made them
> with 4 walls and a ceiling, but these turned out to be slightly
> problematic in the sense that humans apparently need oxygen... In a
> CAVE there would typically be one "main" viewer/person whose head was
> being tracked, so the perspective could be corrected for what ever
> position the viewer was in.
>
> But why settle for a cube? Cubes are boring ;-). You can project onto
> nearly everything!
> http://fieldofview.com/projects/lights-pictura
>
> 'do
>
>



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I guess you all mean the yellow ladybug like camera at yellowbird's front page.
I too agree that the quality, stiching and blending looks really good in this
video if it is a ladybug.

A few weeks back there was this other fantastic 360 video, the one filmed from
the helicopter
(http://www.nimmobay.com/media/360-video/360-video-nimmo-bay-helicopter-resort)
that was shot using six "prosumer grade" cameras (see full info at
http://360videoblog.blogspot.com/search?q=nimmo). The stiching and blending of
the heli video was for me the best I've seen so far at that time ... much better
than that of dodecas or ladybugs ... and I guess the resulting resolution should
be more than enough as to record full HD ... processing of the separate images
looks quite time consuming though! (I just wonder the 6 camera+lens combo used
in this video)

regards,

Antonio


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Aldo Hoeben" <aldo@...> wrote:
>
> > >> > http://www.blof.nl
>
> > And the camera in their setup looks like a Ladybug 2......
>
> The camera looks like a Ladybug indeed, but the video quality doesn't. This is
seriously some of the best ladybug footage I have seen sofar. How come these
guys can get quality video out of these cameras, while google clearly can't
(ref: google arts project).
>

Actually Yellowbird was involved with the Nimmo thing.

I guess some clever processing.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 17:31, zakaTo <avgs@...> wrote:
>
> I guess you all mean the yellow ladybug like camera at yellowbird's front
page. I too agree that the quality, stiching and blending looks really good in
this video if it is a ladybug.
>
> A few weeks back there was this other fantastic 360 video, the one filmed from
the helicopter
(http://www.nimmobay.com/media/360-video/360-video-nimmo-bay-helicopter-resort)


--
best regards,

G.T.G. Vierstra

Hi,

Here is a Palmela 2011 - update:

*For those without time to read the detail =>* Over 60 registered attendees
already signed in, we now have two hotels fully packed with Palmela 2011
attendees, a third hotel under
contract<http://www.palmela2011.com/featured/palmela-village-golf-resort>
to
start accept bookings from today (March 1) with up to 100 rooms available!
Speakers <http://www.palmela2011.com/info/conference/speakers> and
sponsors<http://www.palmela2011.com/info/conference/partners> being
announced at Palmela2011.com <http://palmela2011.com/>. Now it's a good time
to sign up for Palmela
2011<http://www.palmela2011.com/tutorials-and-conference-registration>
.

And here is the more detailed update:
*
*
*Conference Attendees:*

As of today, March 1, we have over 60 attendees registered for the
conference or tutorials + conference programs, this is the highest number of
registrations in the first month of any previous IVRPA conference.
Hopefully we should be able to start publish the attendee list on the Palmela
2011 website <http://www.palmela2011.com/info/conference/attendees> in the
coming days.
If you want to register for the conference, now it's a good time, check the
ticket prices here <http://www.palmela2011.com/tickets> and register
here<http://www.palmela2011.com/tutorials-and-conference-registration>
.

*Conference Speakers: *

We have some great speakers lined up
already<http://www.palmela2011.com/info/conference/speakers>, Ignacio
Ferrando Margelí, Joergen Geerds, Nicole Tung and Jason Barr, Thomas K.
Sharpless, but we ain't stopping here, more speakers will be announced
during next month as we aim to cover all hot topics in the panoramic world.
If you are attending Palmela 2011 and want to give a talk here,
contact us<http://www.palmela2011.com/about/contact>,
we still have some 30min and 20min speaker slots available.

*Conference Sponsors:*

We recently opened sponsor registrations and already Nodal
Ninja<http://www.nodalninja.com/>
, Tourwrist <http://www.tourwrist.com/>, Kolor <http://www.kolor.com/>
and Garden
Gnome <http://gardengnomesoftware.com/> showed their love for this
conference by signing in as Palmela 2011 Sponsors, Vendors or Partners.
Check the terms here <http://www.palmela2011.com/info/sponsors> and sign in
by registering your company to become a sponsor
here<http://www.palmela2011.com/tutorials-and-conference-registration>
.

*Conference Accommodation:*

The first hotel, Palmela Castle Pousada was sold out on Feb. 14. The second
Hotel, the S. Filipe Fortress Pousada in nearby Setúbal, sold out yesterday,
Feb. 28.
Given the high demand we are experiencing for this conference, we went to
great lengths to find a third hotel to accommodate everyone that wants to
attend Palmela 2011 - The Conference from June 1 to 5, 2011.

The new hotel is the Palmela Village Golf
Resort<http://www.palmela2011.com/featured/palmela-village-golf-resort>
and
although not up there in the Castle, it's located only 10 minutes away from
the village on a recently built golf resort.
We hope this new option with up to 100 rooms available will settle
everyone's need for a room to attend Palmela 2011.

*Palmela 2011 Exhibitions:*

Several teams are working on many different exhibitions and we expect to
start announce the exhibitions in detail next week.
We have planned the following Palmela 2011 exhibitions to open to public on
June 2 and 3, 2011:

    - Gigapixel Challenge.
    - Masters of Contemporary Panoramic Photography.
    - Panos for the People group exhibition (distributed across several
    places on Palmela Old Town).
    - My Planets (stereographic projection group exhibition).
    - Three individual exhibitions from renowned panoramic artists


For some of the exhibitions we will launch in the coming days a request
for submissions from the panoramic community.
Everyone will have equal chance to participate, independently of being an
IVRPA member or not.
Exhibitions will open on the first week of June, remain on display during
the summer and close on August 31.

*Palmela 2011 Volunteers:*

The Palmela 2011 – Panoramic Photography Festival was made possible by the
dedicated work the following volunteers.

    - Carlos Chegado – *Conference Organizer*
    - Sandra Mexa – *Conference Treasurer*
    - Matthias Taugwalder – *Sponsorship Coordinator*
    - Pat Swovelin – *Tutorials Coordinator*
    - Aaron Spence – *Registration Coordinator*
    - Willy Kaemena – *Transport Coordinator*
    - Karyn Laudisi – *Video*

*Palmela 2011 Exhibitions team:*

    - Carlos Chegado (*Portugal*)
    - G. Donald Bain (*USA*)
    - Jürgen Schrader (*Germany*)
    - Sam Rohn (*USA*)
    - Joergen Geerds (*USA*)

*Palmela 2011 translate team:*

    - Carlos Chegado EN (*Portugal*)
    - Pat Swovelin EN (*USA*)
    - Inês Mendes PT (*Portugal*)
    - Vincèn Pujol FR (*France*)
    - Mike Sikorski PL (*Ireland*)
    - Sandra Pilar Paulino ES (*Portugal*)
    - Mauro Contrafatto IT (*Italy*)
    - Michael Hundrieser DE (*Germany*)


On behalf of the IVRPA Board of Directors

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Carlos Chegado

Come join us for Palmela 2011 - The International Panoramic Photography
Festival

- Tutorials, Conference, Photo Safari, Marketplace, Exhibitions >>
Palmela2011.com


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On 2011-03-01 11:55 AM, Aldo Hoeben wrote:
>> http://www.blof.nl
> The camera looks like a Ladybug indeed, but the video quality doesn't. This is
> seriously some of the best ladybug footage I have seen sofar. How come these
> guys can get quality video out of these cameras, while google clearly can't
> (ref: google arts project).

I was thinking the problem with the Google Arts Project was that the camera was
set to video mode, but I guess not.
--

Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

Is there still discount offered for this book?

A Kielcz

Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.

--- On Sat, 2/26/11, Uri <uri@...> wrote:

From: Uri <uri@...>
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: panorama book OT
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 12:31 PM







 













--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, A Kielcz <roblee007@...> wrote:

>

> can't read Spanish.

>



The best book on panoramic photography is "Virtual Reality Photography" by Scott
Highton.



You can get it at: http://www.vrphotography.com



PS: This book was discussed a lot on this list, and even offered at a discount
when it was released.

























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On 2011-03-01 12:31 PM, zakaTo wrote:
> I guess you all mean the yellow ladybug like camera at yellowbird's front
page.
The yellowbird's carmera does look like a yellow colored Ladybug.

The Ladybug 3 has 6 2MP cameras connected by FireWire Capturing at (15 FPS JPEG
compressed 6.5 FPS uncompressed)  frames per second. (800Mb/sec).  Full
resolution 2700X5400
http://www.ptgrey.com/products/ladybug3/Ladybug3_360_video_camera.asp

The YellowBirdCamera
6 cameras.  double glass-fiber stream at 1200 Mb/sec
http://www.yellowbirdsdonthavewingsbuttheyflytomakeyouexperiencea3dreality.com/p\
roducts/technology/camera
The images are saved uncompressed and stitched later.

But most of the info I find about YellowBird indicates they are using Ladybug 2
& 3 cameras.

I heard rumors of a Ladybug 4 in the works.  Could the YellowBirdCamera be the
beta testing?  Or modifying a Ladybug 2 or 3?

--
Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

My guess is that they've had ot grey build them a custom rig, that just happens
to fit in the ladybug 2 enclosure.

My guess is that their showreel was shot with a Ladybug 2, and the
Blof recording was a Ladybug 3.

The Blof video is 2048x1024 at 16fps, close enough to a Ladybug 3.
Ladybug 2 supposed to give max 1024x768 at 30fps.

No resizing here..

**thinks about bluefish, the fish that sees all in the sea, or
blackswan, or bluefly or...**


On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 18:52, Aldo Hoeben <aldo@...> wrote:
> My guess is that they've had ot grey build them a custom rig, that just
happens to fit in the ladybug 2 enclosure.
>


--
best regards,

G.T.G. Vierstra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ7U3Cu4Mr4&feature=player_embedded#at=59

he doesn't dig their "3d global experiment"

PeterM

A second Panini-Video demo [here]
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj69gzOF8JA>  .  720 x 480 DV from a
Sony Handicam with an Opteka 0.41x semi-fisheye adapter, hfov 125
degrees.  It is a poor lens and my correction of it is not great; but
the Panini perspective looks pretty good.

I hope soon to post some decent looking clips from EOS 7D with Tokina
10-17mm zoom fisheye, using lens calibrations made with PTGui.

-- Tom


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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Aldo Hoeben" <aldo@...> wrote:
>
> > >> > http://www.blof.nl
>
> > And the camera in their setup looks like a Ladybug 2......
>
> The camera looks like a Ladybug indeed, but the video quality doesn't. This is
seriously some of the best ladybug footage I have seen sofar. How come these
guys can get quality video out of these cameras, while google clearly can't
(ref: google arts project).
>

There is not yet, so far a I know, a commercial array camera made of GoPro
Heros, but there will be soon, and I predict it will blow the Ladybug away.

BTW if you look up near the ceiling on the Blof video, you will see stitching
artefacts that suggest 8 cameras around, or more.

Cheers, Tom

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 00:20, Thomas <TKSharpless@...> wrote:
>
> BTW if you look up near the ceiling on the Blof video, you will see stitching
artefacts that suggest 8 cameras around, or more.


No, there are 5x1 camera's, If you look at bit at the xml, you can
find the movie itself. (and grab a frame, throw it on krpano :)


--
best regards,

G.T.G. Vierstra

Hi everybody,

together with several photographers, not only panoramic photographers,
we built a multimedia-tour about the halls of the fishmarket in Hamburg.
This will be one of many contributions, which will be published in a
kind of an online-magazine with reports about the "culinary cosmos" of
the city of Hamburg. The idea is to tell photographic subjects by using
not only classical photography, but also by using film, sound and
panoramic photography, so to find new possibilities to show our medial
output by connecting the different visual disciplines.
Although the site is in German, it might be interesting to watch, at
least I wanted to share it:

http://www.kulinarik-kosmonaut.de

And, of course, feedback is much appreciated.

Greetings
Kay-Uwe

--

http://www.panorama-photography.com
http://www.rosseburg-photo.de

Just to add some more fuel into this fire, I´ve just read at the "new" panoguide
forum about this company: www.ttx.co.uk that films (among other things) 360º
video.

They use ladybug and dodeca (why does dodeca always have to show such a very bad
blending?)

I have really enjoyend checking their "photo gallery" at the 360º video section
where you can see some set ups for the recordings.

http://www.ttx.co.uk/gallery/360-spherical-video-systems2/
(not sure though if all these pictures are theirs ... some look familiar from
the old inmmersive media site ... can't remember though!)

regards,

Antonio

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, GTG Vierstra <vierstra@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 00:20, Thomas <TKSharpless@...> wrote:
> >
> > BTW if you look up near the ceiling on the Blof video, you will see
stitching artefacts that suggest 8 cameras around, or more.
>
>
> No, there are 5x1 camera's, If you look at bit at the xml, you can
> find the movie itself. (and grab a frame, throw it on krpano :)
>
>
> --
> best regards,
>
> G.T.G. Vierstra
>

Everyone can get or make a 360 movie cam, and its just time before it
becomes affordable for every photo/filmo-grapher. (and higher res).

Yellowbird is smart. Actually they invest heavily in creating their
name as an interface designer and related tech, and if their
programming is as good as their marketing they will even survive 360
degree movie krpano.




On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:35, zakaTo <avgs@...> wrote:
> Just to add some more fuel into this fire, I´ve just read at the "new"
panoguide forum about this company: www.ttx.co.uk that films (among other
things) 360º video.


--
best regards,

G.T.G. Vierstra

Hi,

	 Just an announcement that we'll be setting up a monthly group buy on panoramic
related hardware and software. Each group buy will run until the end of the
calendar month in which it started. The aim of each group buy is to negotiate
larger discounts with vendors based on larger purchases. The goal is to
negotiate between 10-35% discounts base on numbers.

	 To qualify you will need to join Facebook and friend 360Precision. Once you're
our friend you can then join the group for the current months group buy. On the
last day of the month will we email out instructions for completing your
purchase.

	 Each group buy will feature a tiered discount structure so the more people join
the cheaper the product becomes so please spread the word.

	 The discount amount applied will be based on separate negotiations for each
months product/s so please read the group description for details. Please also
note that 360Precision will only be taking a small processing fee. These group
buys are set-up to help out customers and the community and not as a profit
based scheme.

	 There's no obligation to complete the purchase but please don't join the group
if you have no desire to buy the product.

	 You can find our Facebook page here;

	 http://www.facebook.com/360precision

	 And this months group buy group is here:

	 http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_196434640378727&ap=1

	 You can read up on Panotour and Panotour Pro on the Kolor website at
http://www.kolor.com

	 Any suggestions for other hardware/software group buys please email me
directly.

NB Please always prefix the subject of your emails with "360Precision -". This
will help stop our spam filters and increase the chance that your email will be
received and replied to.

Follow us on Facebook @ http://www.facebook.com/360precision
Follow us on twitter @ http://twitter.com/360precision

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"If you're serious about QuicktimeVR Panoramas, the 360Precision is the tripod
head to get" - MacUser Magazine, 5 out of 5 mice

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The Flash-based panorama-viewer game might get a bit more interesting shortly,
now that a public preview of the (codename) "molehill" technology is available:

http://www.bytearray.org/?p=2810
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplatformruntimes_incubator.html

This uses (shader-based) 3d hardware acceleration, not unlike what is/will be
available with WebGL.

So what does this mean? If you are willing to install that preview, compare
these two versions of the same movie and compare the processor load:
http://www.bytearray.org/wp-content/projects/molehill2d/displaylist/
http://www.bytearray.org/wp-content/projects/molehill2d/molehill/
(the latter should hardly tax your cpu at all)

For now, the only remotely panorama-related techdemo I have found is this one
(which only works with the preview build of the flash 11 player):
http://infiniteturtles.co.uk/projects/away3d/broomstick/ShallowWaterDemo.html

'do

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, A Kielcz <roblee007@...> wrote:
>
> Is there still discount offered for this book?

Probably not, it's a bit pricey, but worth every penny. This list may not be a
good place to ask. Did you check at Scott's web site
(http://www.vrphotography.com/)?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1102/11022805samyang8mmsonyvg10.asp
Now if only this was full circle vertically like a regular 8mm on this format

Samyang 8mm on Nex could be done before with a Nikon to Nex adapter but now
there is  a native mount

PeterM

I shoot panos using NN5, Samyang 8mm and D300. Normally 4 around, 1 90 deg for
Zenith and 2 90 deg down for Nadir (using NN adapter and moving tripod).
Question is, should I pitch lens down or up shooting 4 around?
Still having problems stitching Nadir, but it is getting better.
Thank you!

A Kielcz

Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.




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You only need to worry about coverage, pitching up or down is only to
provide image coverage for your sphere, there is no other pro or con.
If you wish not to shoot a zenith shot and wish your clarity at the zenith,
you would pitch up. This would eliminate the need for a zenith, however it's
generally better to shoot the zenith if possible, or if you have an
automatic pano rotator you use on a pole.
So if I've contracted myself already, there you have it.
BTW, I shoot without a pitch for normal shots.

-s

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:10 PM, A Kielcz <roblee007@...> wrote:

>
>
> I shoot panos using NN5, Samyang 8mm and D300. Normally 4 around, 1 90 deg
> for Zenith and 2 90 deg down for Nadir (using NN adapter and moving tripod).
> Question is, should I pitch lens down or up shooting 4 around?
> Still having problems stitching Nadir, but it is getting better.
> Thank you!
>
> A Kielcz
>
> Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--

Sacha Griffin
Southern Digital Solutions LLC
http://www.seeit360.net
http://www.southern-digital.com
404-551-4275


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On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 10:10:32 +0900, A Kielcz <roblee007@...> wrote:

> I shoot panos using NN5, Samyang 8mm and D300. Normally 4 around, 1 90
> deg for Zenith and 2 90 deg down for Nadir (using NN adapter and moving
> tripod). Question is, should I pitch lens down or up shooting 4 around?
> Still having problems stitching Nadir, but it is getting better.
> Thank you!

Opinions are divided on this. Because most of my panoramas are taken
outdoors, where the sky is largely blank, it can be hard to find
control points that link the zenith shot to the trees or roofs on
the horizon, so I usually point slightly up, leaving a hole at the
nadir. The nadir is where the foot of my monopod comes, and it is
also where the Peleng lens I use tends to produce halation. So I am
resigned to taking a zenith shot, which eliminates both the hole
and the halation.

If I shoot precisely horizontally, the Peleng gives me tiny holes at
zenith and nadir that can be easily cloned out. But when there is
halation (and there usually is), it tends to occur at and around
the nadir, so a nadir shot helps. And it looks like a sizable
"smear" that is hard to clone out.

I don't really see the need to take two zenith shots, though.

Roger W.

--
Work: www.adex-japan.com

Just stumbled via Twitter on www.tbseller.com.
The domain is registered since 2006at 361004 Wuhan in China.
Cameras are here at http://tbseller.com/proList.php?bid=39&page=1

Looks too cheap to be true...





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Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

This should tell enough, never pay any goods through western union etc:
http://tbseller.com/payment.php

Joost

On 3-3-2011 13:58, Thomas Krüger wrote:
> Just stumbled via Twitter on www.tbseller.com.
> The domain is registered since 2006at 361004 Wuhan in China.
> Cameras are here at http://tbseller.com/proList.php?bid=39&page=1
>
> Looks too cheap to be true...
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
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> Sent from the PanoToolsNG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>

I'm tempted to buy D700 and pay with visa.

A Kielcz

Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.

--- On Thu, 3/3/11, Thomas Krüger <th.krueger@...> wrote:

From: Thomas Krüger <th.krueger@...>
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] OT - tbseller.com - Chinese electronics retail, scam or
true?
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 7:58 AM







 









       Just stumbled via Twitter on www.tbseller.com.

The domain is registered since 2006at 361004 Wuhan in China.

Cameras are here at http://tbseller.com/proList.php?bid=39&page=1



Looks too cheap to be true...



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il-scam-or-true-tp3333272p3333272.html

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you mean 2 nadir shots?

A Kielcz

Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.

--- On Wed, 3/2/11, Roger D. Williams <roger@...> wrote:

From: Roger D. Williams <roger@...>
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] hope this isn't OT
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 8:40 PM







 









       On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 10:10:32 +0900, A Kielcz <roblee007@...> wrote:



> I shoot panos using NN5, Samyang 8mm and D300. Normally 4 around, 1 90

> deg for Zenith and 2 90 deg down for Nadir (using NN adapter and moving

> tripod). Question is, should I pitch lens down or up shooting 4 around?

> Still having problems stitching Nadir, but it is getting better.

> Thank you!



Opinions are divided on this. Because most of my panoramas are taken

outdoors, where the sky is largely blank, it can be hard to find

control points that link the zenith shot to the trees or roofs on

the horizon, so I usually point slightly up, leaving a hole at the

nadir. The nadir is where the foot of my monopod comes, and it is

also where the Peleng lens I use tends to produce halation. So I am

resigned to taking a zenith shot, which eliminates both the hole

and the halation.



If I shoot precisely horizontally, the Peleng gives me tiny holes at

zenith and nadir that can be easily cloned out. But when there is

halation (and there usually is), it tends to occur at and around

the nadir, so a nadir shot helps. And it looks like a sizable

"smear" that is hard to clone out.



I don't really see the need to take two zenith shots, though.



Roger W.



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