Hi Erik,

Thanks for your good words. You made my day!

I cannot figure out which image is FF 10 and FF 3. Could you explain? I would
like to see the difference.


On 03 févr. 2012, at 10:21, Erik Krause wrote:

> Am 02.02.2012 13:19, schrieb luc_villeneuve:
>
>> www.360-image.com/hoteldeglace2011-2
>
> Incredible images. However, on FF 10 it starts automatically in HTML 5
> mode with no apparent possibility to switch back to Flash. On FF 3 it
> starts in Flash mode which is much faster and much more pleasant - at
> least on my machine.
>
> --
> Erik Krause
> http://www.erik-krause.de
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>

Hi Luc,
I think he meant Firefox 10 and Firefox 3.
Best regards,
Fernando

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Hi Erik,

Thanks for your good words. You made my day!

I cannot figure out which image is FF 10 and FF 3. Could you explain? I
would like to see the difference.


On 03 févr. 2012, at 10:21, Erik Krause wrote:

> Am 02.02.2012 13:19, schrieb luc_villeneuve:
>
>> www.360-image.com/hoteldeglace2011-2
>
> Incredible images. However, on FF 10 it starts automatically in HTML 5
> mode with no apparent possibility to switch back to Flash. On FF 3 it
> starts in Flash mode which is much faster and much more pleasant - at
> least on my machine.
>
> --
> Erik Krause

Hi Kyle

Am 01.02.12 21:36, schrieb Kyle:
> There is a BIG price difference between the two versions (US) and was
wondering if there is any difference between the two versions other than being
able to disable the "about" in the help tab??
There is really only this difference.

Best regrads

Peter

Dear all, specially our Dutch friends,

has the date for the Panotools meeting 2012 in The Hague been fixed yet?

It would be helpful to get a confirmation for coordination with other
commitments and vacation schedules.
The last entry on the Panotools Meeting side (http://www.panotools-meeting.com)
seems to be from October last year.

Regards,   Claudia

 

" being able to disable the "about" in the help tab"

Still do not know what this means?

Thanks,

Richard

It means removing the branding info so as to hide who's product it is. 

From my IPhone

<Kyle>

On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:30 AM, rcgillespie <rcgvt@...> wrote:

 

" being able to disable the "about" in the help tab"

Still do not know what this means?

Thanks,

Richard

Got it.

Thanks,
Richard

Want some skies for your panoramas? Bryce is good for this
.. and Daz have this free offer for 3 of its products (Bryce, Daz Studio Pro and
Hexagon -- Mac and PC) until the end of the month
http://www.cgchannel.com/2012/02/daz-makes-3d-software-worth-800-available-for-f\
ree/

PeterM

 

On 2/4/2012 8:04 AM, Kyle Goodnight wrote:

It means removing the branding info so as to hide who's product it is. 

And that means to the client that you created it vs. using someone else's player so they'll have to come to you to get the same thing.  That's why you pay a premium for unbranded players (or any other product in general).

From my IPhone

<Kyle>

On Feb 4, 2012, at 10:30 AM, rcgillespie <rcgvt@...> wrote:

 

" being able to disable the "about" in the help tab"

Still do not know what this means?

Thanks,

Richard

Pat Swovelin
Cool Guy @ Large

Want some skies for your panoramas? Bryce is good for this
.. and Daz have this free offer for 3 of its products (Bryce, Daz Studio Pro and Hexagon -- Mac and PC) until the end of the month
http://www.cgchannel.com/2012/02/daz-makes-3d-software-worth-800-available-for-free/

PeterM

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 05:41:29 +0900, panovrx <panovrx@...> wrote:

> Want some skies for your panoramas? Bryce is good for this
> .. and Daz have this free offer for 3 of its products (Bryce, Daz Studio
> Pro and Hexagon -- Mac and PC) until the end of the month
>
http://www.cgchannel.com/2012/02/daz-makes-3d-software-worth-800-available-for-f\
ree/

Peter, I had a vague memory of one of our designers asking me for a
program called
Bryce years ago and he was delighted with it, so when I saw "free" and
"want some
skies for your panoramas?" I immediately downloaded it.

I have a feeling that as a tool for my simple needs--adding interesting
skies to
panoramas that have Japan's typical white haze for nine months of the
year--I may
have downloaded the equivalent of a sledgehammer when all I need to do is
crack
a nut!

I should have guessed this when it suggested I download a "content" file
that was
700MB in size...

If anyone has ever used Bryce to add an interesting sky to a panorama, I'd
be
really glad if you could point me in the right direction to find out how
it can
be done.

Roger W.

--
Business: www.adex-japan.com
Pleasure: www.usefilm.com/member/roger
Panorama: Rogerama at Photosynth

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger D. Williams" <roger@...> wrote:
..
>
> If anyone has ever used Bryce to add an interesting sky to a panorama, I'd
> be
> really glad if you could point me in the right direction to find out how
> it can
> be done.
>

It is ten years since I used Bryce for pano sky renders this but this tutorial
like it will work
http://www.daz3d.com/i/tutorial/tutorial?id=980

PeterM

Thanks, Peter. I'll give it a try! I have plenty of panoramas that need blue
skies...

Roger W.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 5, 2012, at 9:41 PM, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:

> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger D. Williams" <roger@...> wrote:
> ..
>>
>> If anyone has ever used Bryce to add an interesting sky to a panorama, I'd
>> be
>> really glad if you could point me in the right direction to find out how
>> it can
>> be done.
>>
>
> It is ten years since I used Bryce for pano sky renders this but this tutorial
like it will work
> http://www.daz3d.com/i/tutorial/tutorial?id=980
>
> PeterM
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>

On 2012-02-05 8:41 AM, panovrx wrote:
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger D. Williams"<roger@...>  wrote:..
>> If anyone has ever used Bryce to add an interesting sky to a panorama, I'd
>> be really glad if you could point me in the right direction to find out how
>> it can be done.
> It is ten years since I used Bryce for pano sky renders this but this tutorial
like it will work
> http://www.daz3d.com/i/tutorial/tutorial?id=980
>
> PeterM

Corel owned Bryce for a while. They had it when I worked there, I never
developed it just used it a bit. That was also 10 years ago.  I filed a bug and
complained about its messed up lens model that required putting in a values
other-than 90° to create the sides of the cube for pano creation. I see from the
tutorial that it is recommending 112.5°.  Although that tutorial was written for
Bryce 5 and Bryce 7 is what is available now. Things may have improved.

--
Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

Well... If Corel owned it, they introduce additional bugs. I HAD to work with clients files and the worst format EVER was Corel.

On 05 févr. 2012, at 13:14, Jim Watters wrote:

Corel owned Bryce for a while. They had it when I worked there, I never
developed it just used it a bit. That was also 10 years ago. I filed a bug and
complained about its messed up lens model that required putting in a values
other-than 90° to create the sides of the cube for pano creation. I see from the
tutorial that it is recommending 112.5°. Although that tutorial was written for
Bryce 5 and Bryce 7 is what is available now. Things may have improved.

-- Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

I have a Rokinon 8 mm on a Sony A55 / Nodal Ninja 3 / RD16 rotator.
I have found the centering of the lens on the lower rail is 5.1 mm.,
while my sigma 10-20 mm. and other lenses, are 5.4.5 mm..

Is this possible?  I thought all lenses on a camera are centered the
same on the lower rail.

Richard

They have added a lot of stuff over the years I think -- eg. now they have
volumetric clouds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTioc_4OrY
PeterM

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Christian Bloch <Blochi@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I don't know how much Bruce has evolved by now, but I can tell that
realistic looking clouds are actually pretty hard to generate. It starts with
the physical-force driven shape and ends with the internal light scattering and
all these subtle nuances of atmospheric light behavior. That's why CG people
prefer to use photographic cloud panoramas.
>
> If you really want to generate CG clouds, I recommend Vue for more
photographic results.
> http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_10_esprit/?page=5
>
> Blochi
>
> On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:41 PM, panovrx wrote:
>
> > Want some skies for your panoramas? Bryce is good for this
>

On Feb 5, 2012, at 9:41 PM, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:

> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger D. Williams" <roger@...> wrote:
> ..
>>
>> If anyone has ever used Bryce to add an interesting sky to a panorama, I'd
>> be
>> really glad if you could point me in the right direction to find out how
>> it can
>> be done.
>>
>
> It is ten years since I used Bryce for pano sky renders this but this tutorial
like it will work
> http://www.daz3d.com/i/tutorial/tutorial?id=980

I must confess that it was my complete ignorance of the complexity of graphic
image generation software like Bryce that made me even entertain the idea of
using it to generate skies for my "white sky" panoramas. I mean, here's someone
who is still splashing around in the shallows of PhotoShop (me) imagining he can
use Bryce? It would be laughable if it weren't pathetic.

Not only can I not follow the instructions in the tutorial that Peter kindly
pointed out above, I can't even understand the introductory tutorial "for
complete novices" that appears on the Bruce site!

Argh!

Roger W.

I have a Rokinon 8 mm on a Sony A55 / Nodal Ninja 3 / RD16 rotator.
I have found the centering of the lens on the lower rail is 5.1 mm.,
while my sigma 10-20 mm. and other lenses, are 5.4.5 mm..

Is this possible? I thought all lenses on a camera are centered the
same on the lower rail.

Richard

For best results I recommend to check the results on the final image.
Not by measuring and not through the viewfinder.
Probably there are some tolerances in lens manufacturing but In my setups I
couldn't see any negative effect.

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Pat Swovelin <panoramas@...> wrote:
>
> On 2/5/2012 11:49 AM, rcgillespie wrote:
>
> > I have a Rokinon 8 mm on a Sony A55 / Nodal Ninja 3 / RD16 rotator.
> > I have found the centering of the lens on the lower rail is 5.1 mm.,
> > while my sigma 10-20 mm. and other lenses, are 5.4.5 mm..
> >
> > Is this possible? I thought all lenses on a camera are centered the
> > same on the lower rail.
>
> It's a combo of the lens build and how it mounts on the body.  Is
> everything tight on the head and where the body mounts to it?  Are you
> positioning the vertical rail on the bottom rail by tilting -90° and
> sliding the vertical rail until the center focus point on the ground
> glass is centered over the NN logo on the rotator?
>
> > Richard
>
>
>
> Pat Swovelin
> Cool Guy @ Large
>

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Roger D Williams <roger@...> wrote:


> Not only can I not follow the instructions in the tutorial that Peter kindly
pointed out above, I can't even understand the introductory tutorial "for
complete novices" that appears on the Bruce site!


This is unfortunate. A Google search for "bryce tutorials for beginners" will
yield quite a few helpful links.
I've used Bryce even before I've heard of panoramas :-) and just love it!.
Some of the Brye-generated images are on my web site. See:

http://tinyurl.com/6vesv8m
and:
http://tinyurl.com/7pey2de

I've incorporated images created with Bryce into some panoramas. see:

http://tinyurl.com/8xzogzo
and:
http://tinyurl.com/759fvy8

Uri

Monday, February 06, 2012 3:44 PM

 

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Roger D Williams <roger@...> wrote:

> Not only can I not follow the instructions in the tutorial that Peter kindly pointed out above, I can't even understand the introductory tutorial "for complete novices" that appears on the Bruce site!

This is unfortunate. A Google search for "bryce tutorials for beginners" will yield quite a few helpful links.
I've used Bryce even before I've heard of panoramas :-) and just love it!.
Some of the Brye-generated images are on my web site. See:

http://tinyurl.com/6vesv8m
and:
http://tinyurl.com/7pey2de

I've incorporated images created with Bryce into some panoramas. see:

http://tinyurl.com/8xzogzo
and:
http://tinyurl.com/759fvy8

Roger D Williams

Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:58 PM

 

On Feb 5, 2012, at 9:41 PM, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:

> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Roger D. Williams" <roger@...> wrote:
> ..
>>
>> If anyone has ever used Bryce to add an interesting sky to a panorama, I'd
>> be
>> really glad if you could point me in the right direction to find out how
>> it can
>> be done.
>>
>
> It is ten years since I used Bryce for pano sky renders this but this tutorial like it will work
> http://www.daz3d.com/i/tutorial/tutorial?id=980

I must confess that it was my complete ignorance of the complexity of graphic image generation software like Bryce that made me even entertain the idea of using it to generate skies for my "white sky" panoramas. I mean, here's someone who is still splashing around in the shallows of PhotoShop (me) imagining he can use Bryce? It would be laughable if it weren't pathetic.

Not only can I not follow the instructions in the tutorial that Peter kindly pointed out above, I can't even understand the introductory tutorial "for complete novices" that appears on the Bruce site!

Argh!

Roger W.