Roger -

Apple sells an iPad 2 Digital AV Adapter that has an Apple male 30-pin connector at one end and splits out the other end with a standard female HDMI socket and an Apple 30-pin female socket.  I have used this "dongle" on a current gen iPod and iPad.  It lists new at about $40 - but i got a refurb from Best Buy for about $25.  My iPad it says that the Adapter is not compatible, but it then goes ahead and works just fine.  This allows mirroring the idevice display and sound on the TV. 

Controlling a TV from the iPad is harder, since it doesn't have an IR emitter  If a TV or other device has an network connection with a corresponding idevice app (such as the app provided by Roku for Roku receivers) then you can control the device via the network connection..  Samsung may have a similar app for some TVs - you will need to do an Internet search to see if such an app exists for a particular TV.  RedEye (thinkflood.com) makes a Mini IR emitter ($50) that plugs into an idevice headphone jack.  Other solutions may exist?

Bob D

 

---

From: Roger D Williams <roger@...>
To: "PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com" <PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Will an HD TV function as a PC display?

 

Thank you, Bob...

On Apr 18, 2012, at 7:08 AM, R1 <r1swuj@...> wrote:

I purchased a Sony 55" LCD TV about two years ago.  I am using it when needed as a display for a mini-PC i5 WIN7 PC (via VGA connector at 1080), intermittent use with a WIN7 laptop PC (HDMI at 900), and intermittent use with both an iPod and an iPad (HDMI).  All work very nicely.  I use the TV for PC apps and Internet browsing, Netflix and Amazon movies, TV shows from Hulu and networks, and other on-line sources.

I don't understand your reference to HDMI in connection with an iPad. How do you work that? At the moment I can use my iPad to control my PC remotely, viewing the PC screen on the iPad's own display. With the HD TV (and sitting in the same room) I could use the iPad to control the TV display via the PC, but a direct link between iPad and TV would be a LOT simpler!

Since you indicated that you will be purchasing the TV locally why not ask if you can return it if it doesn't work acceptably as a PC display?

That's unlikely, but it won't hurt to ask...

Also be sure to check the specs to see if the TV has a true 1080 panel (I assume that 720 panels are no longer being used, but it doesn't hurt to be certain).

Good point. They don't say when they are 720 but all  the ones that have 1080 call themselves "True HD" or "Full HD" so I'll watch for that.

Roger W.

I own the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 and can only say that it's a fantastic lens.
The first zoom lens I really like.

I use it together with my D300 on a 360Precision Adjuste head (with
standard arm). At 16 mm it shares the same settings with my 8mm/f2.8
Ai-S Nikkor. Matt and Stu mention different settings for the camera
slider on 360Precision.com but that might be without the MB-D10 which I
have attached.

I expect the 14-24 to be really nice together with the D800 but so far
haven't had the opportunity to test that combination.

The two Zeiss lenses mentioned earlier should also be really cool with
the D800.

Carl


Posted by: "Hans" panoramicsdk on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:33 am ((PDT))
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Simon" <simon.wheaton@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > What rectilinear lens has the best image quality around this focal length,
for similar use on a D800E?
>> >
>> > I have a 20mm AIS manual focus lens, but would like lens with best possible
image quality around this length or a little wider.
> The Nikkor 14-24mm is known to be one of the sharpest lenses in this area.
> But it is heavy and requires a panohead with a long spherical arm.
> As  far as I remember the setting is around 135mm on the D700
>
> And you need of course  more than the 6+1 images  which you need for a
fisheye.

Any idea which would be better at 18mm, Nikkor 14-24mm or Zeiss 18mm?

How many photos for spherical at 18mm on D800E with ample overlap?

Thanks,
Simon
Canberra
AUSTRALIA
________________________________________
From: Carl von Einem [einem@...]
Sent: Wednesday 18 April 2012 21:28
To: PanoTools NG List

I own the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 and can only say that it's a fantastic lens.
The first zoom lens I really like.

I use it together with my D300 on a 360Precision Adjuste head (with
standard arm). At 16 mm it shares the same settings with my 8mm/f2.8
Ai-S Nikkor. Matt and Stu mention different settings for the camera
slider on 360Precision.com but that might be without the MB-D10 which I
have attached.

I expect the 14-24 to be really nice together with the D800 but so far
haven't had the opportunity to test that combination.

The two Zeiss lenses mentioned earlier should also be really cool with
the D800.

Carl




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I think this calls for a real life test at your nearest shop ;-)

Andre

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Wheaton, Simon" <simon.wheaton@...> wrote:
>
> Any idea which would be better at 18mm, Nikkor 14-24mm or Zeiss 18mm?
>
> How many photos for spherical at 18mm on D800E with ample overlap?
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
> Canberra
> AUSTRALIA
> ________________________________________
> From: Carl von Einem [einem@...]
> Sent: Wednesday 18 April 2012 21:28
> To: PanoTools NG List
>
> I own the Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 and can only say that it's a fantastic lens.
> The first zoom lens I really like.
>
> I use it together with my D300 on a 360Precision Adjuste head (with
> standard arm). At 16 mm it shares the same settings with my 8mm/f2.8
> Ai-S Nikkor. Matt and Stu mention different settings for the camera
> slider on 360Precision.com but that might be without the MB-D10 which I
> have attached.
>
> I expect the 14-24 to be really nice together with the D800 but so far
> haven't had the opportunity to test that combination.
>
> The two Zeiss lenses mentioned earlier should also be really cool with
> the D800.
>
> Carl
>
>
>
>
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--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Wheaton, Simon" <simon.wheaton@...> wrote:
>
> Any idea which would be better at 18mm, Nikkor 14-24mm or Zeiss 18mm?

Oh, usually a prime lens should be better than a zoom (less glass elements). And
Zeiss produces great lenses! Also, it's less heavy, and more compact. For
panoramas you also don't need AF and with the D800 it should be easy to use a
manual focus lens.

Here is a direct comparison:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/distagon-18mm.shtml

> How many photos for spherical at 18mm on D800E with ample overlap?

try it in your favourite stitching program with dummy images. Set the project
accordingly... you'll need seven (23%) to eight (33%) images for one full
cylinder.
I guess that a spherical would work with two rows of 8 images plus one zenith
and nadir shot.

bat a big advantage for the nikon could be: At 16 mm or less it will stitch at 6
images at 0 degrees +nadir and zenith.

Andre


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "cvoneinem" <einem@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Wheaton, Simon" <simon.wheaton@> wrote:
> >
> > Any idea which would be better at 18mm, Nikkor 14-24mm or Zeiss 18mm?
>
> Oh, usually a prime lens should be better than a zoom (less glass elements).
And Zeiss produces great lenses! Also, it's less heavy, and more compact. For
panoramas you also don't need AF and with the D800 it should be easy to use a
manual focus lens.
>
> Here is a direct comparison:
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/distagon-18mm.shtml
>
> > How many photos for spherical at 18mm on D800E with ample overlap?
>
> try it in your favourite stitching program with dummy images. Set the project
accordingly... you'll need seven (23%) to eight (33%) images for one full
cylinder.
> I guess that a spherical would work with two rows of 8 images plus one zenith
and nadir shot.
>

Geoff,

Thanks for all the information and behind the scenes effort! So, to
summarize, pitch and roll aren't part of the official EXIF format, but can
be added as user defined fields via ExifTool, right?

Also, Joost is at least aware of this extra data, but as of Feb. 1, only
says it is on his radar. Translated - it is probably in the next beta
already - :o)

So, for now, we can record and attach pitch and roll to images using
ExifTool, but can't use that data to assist with stitching.

Mark

www.northernlight.net
www.virtual-travels.com
www.pinnacle-vr.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of g8dhe
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:45 PM
> To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: OT GPS fields
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh and Geosetter can also read those fields and move them on, but cannot
> however manipulate them at present, however Friedmann has accepted a
> feature request and it is likely to appear in a version soon see the
> Issues log here http://www.geosetter.de/mantis/view.php?id=917
>
> Geoff
> http://www.sphericalvisions.com/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>

Am 18.04.2012 19:52, schrieb Mark D. Fink:
> So, for now, we can record and attach pitch and roll to images using
> ExifTool, but can't use that data to assist with stitching.

You can read them with exiftool and create a template. AFAIR exiftool
supports formatted output via the -p option. PTGui ptoject file format
is largely identical with the PTOptimizer file format:
http://wiki.panotools.org/PTOptimizer

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

Hi Mark,
Yup, we have to start somewhere!  Its also on the Pano2VR radar, and has been
for some time, but its less critical once its been thru the stitcher's, but
still handy to specify a starting position to view a Pano with.

Geoff

A tip from Creative Cow, perhaps interesting for panomakers who also use Adobe
After Effects:

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April 16th - April 21st 2012 at Toolfarm.com

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After Effects camera to a 3D world.
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<http://www.toolfarm.com/buy/horizon>

Cheers!

Erik Leeman

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/erik-nl/>  <http://www.erikleeman.com/>

Add your own aerial photos to Google Earth.

http://google-latlong.blogspot.ca/2012/04/balloon-and-kite-imagery-in-google.htm\
l

--
Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/449163977/galileo-your-ios-in-motion

extraordinarily popular project for what one would think would be a niche market

PeterM

Hmmmm, maybe the Zeiss 21mm will give the best quality images in a wide, and
still give panos without too many shots around.

Sorry, don't have computer with stitching software at the moment, could someone
please tell me how many photos for spherical + overlap with 21mm, and what the
max stitched pano dimensions from an D800E would be?

Thanks,
Simon
Canberra
AUSTRALIA
________________________________________
From: cvoneinem [einem@...]
Sent: Wednesday 18 April 2012 22:55

> Any idea which would be better at 18mm, Nikkor 14-24mm or Zeiss 18mm?

Oh, usually a prime lens should be better than a zoom (less glass elements). And
Zeiss produces great lenses! Also, it's less heavy, and more compact. For
panoramas you also don't need AF and with the D800 it should be easy to use a
manual focus lens.

Here is a direct comparison:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/distagon-18mm.shtml

> How many photos for spherical at 18mm on D800E with ample overlap?

try it in your favourite stitching program with dummy images. Set the project
accordingly... you'll need seven (23%) to eight (33%) images for one full
cylinder.
I guess that a spherical would work with two rows of 8 images plus one zenith
and nadir shot.



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there is also a new zeiss 15mm f2.8 rectilinear for nikon & canon mount coming
soon -

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/03/16/zeiss-distagon-t-15mm-f2-8-zf-2-lens-nikon-mou\
nt-announced.aspx/

http://www.zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=873

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FuBybxN8XCc#!

sam

Sam Rohn :: New York City
Panoramic Photography :: http://www.samrohn.com
Location Scout :: http://www.nylocations.com


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...> wrote:
>
> Excuse me for a possible double post in case that someone has asked similar
question...
> I am looking for my new standard "daily-use" combo Nikon D800 + Nikkor 16 mm
but would like to get even better lenses with similar angle. Any tips?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bostjan
>

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, awirealvr@... wrote:
>
> bat a big advantage for the nikon could be: At 16 mm or less it
> will stitch at 6 images at 0 degrees +nadir and zenith.
>
> Andre

Did someone already have the chance to test the new Zeiss Distagon f2.8 15 mm
rectilinear lens?
<http://lenses.zeiss.com/photo/en_DE/products/slr/distagont2815.html>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuBybxN8XCc>

dpreview only shows the older version with Leica M mount.

Roger -

I do have the new iPad - but that does not fill the entire screen - what it fills is proportional to the orientation of the iPad - portrait or landscape - at 4:3.  iPads 2 and 3 are " up-to" 1080 capable, but many apps are not aware of that. When running a slide show, wide panoramas will almost fill the screen, as do certain video apps, such as Netflix (but the video quality does not seem as good as the Roku output and the video output of other apps are of even lower quality). 

Thanks for your questions - I've had to do a bit testing and learning about the HDMI output.

Bob D

---

From: Roger D Williams <roger@...>
To: "PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com" <PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Will an HD TV function as a PC display?

 

Bob, that's really good news! It's a pity I didn't read this until I got back from town this afternoon, as I was within a stone's throw of the Ginza Apple Store. That is all I need for putting iPad images on the TV, and of course it would work with our present non-3D TV, which has a digital input.

I don't need or want to control the TV with iPhone or iPad. I already control the PC from the iPad and if the PC could be mirrored to the TV, I would have all I want... 

Thanks for the feedback.

I was a little disappointed with my visit to the mammoth discount store this afternoon. I didn't want to consider a screen larger than 32 inch, as my desk isn't big enough for me to be able to use it conveniently, and most of the manufacturers have apparently abandoned producing high spec 3D TVs at this size. They have moved upscale to huge screens. I did find one that fitted my needs, but it was over my budget. I'll have to see what's available at the Internet stores.

Roger

PS Can you get your iPad to fill the TV screen? Its native resolution is well below 1,980 x 1,080 isn't it... Unless you have the new iPad, of course

Sent from my iPad

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/449163977/galileo-your-ios-in-motion
>
> extraordinarily popular project for what one would think would be a niche
market
>
> PeterM
>

they are going to sell these things for $130 (or $85 if you contribute to
Kickstarter in the next 45 hours). You stick your Iphone on them and they can
pan and tilt your camera via an Ipad/Iphone control app. Up to 200 degrees per
seconds.
"Real estate photography – build 360° spherical virtual home tours with ease" is
one of the application areas they mention. If you look where the Iphone lens is
relative to where the axis of rotation it doesnt look NPP to me but it should
work sort of I guess. At least it would be totally automatic. It has a tripod
socket. They will release a mount for Gopros they say, and a Bluetooth control
option.

PeterM

On 19.4.2012. 10:54, panovrx wrote:
> "Real estate photography – build 360° spherical virtual home tours with
> ease" is one of the application areas they mention. If you look where
> the Iphone lens is relative to where the axis of rotation it doesnt look
> NPP to me but it should work sort of I guess.

I meh at it. A bit useless and gimmicky, but masses seem to like it.

Now, a small pano bracket+rotator for Nokia 808 pureview that rotates
around the NPP would be an awesome product.
No motors required! (although I wouldn't mind)
Paired with a proper gyro enabled app it would be THE portable pano setup.

--

Pano/VR/Gigapixel photography: http://robertlesac.com

I also backed this project, planning to make a adapter for my iPhone so the
lens is near to the nnp. Would love to see apps like photosynth and others
use the SDK and be able to control exposure and wb for pano's!

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Read this on rectilinear wide angle lenses and stitching

http://michel.thoby.free.fr/Web_Gallery_&_Tests/Samyang%2014mm/Pano_with_8_shots\
_only.html

Andre

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "cvoneinem" <einem@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, awirealvr@ wrote:
> >
> > bat a big advantage for the nikon could be: At 16 mm or less it
> > will stitch at 6 images at 0 degrees +nadir and zenith.
> >
> > Andre
>
> Did someone already have the chance to test the new Zeiss Distagon f2.8 15 mm
rectilinear lens?
> <http://lenses.zeiss.com/photo/en_DE/products/slr/distagont2815.html>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuBybxN8XCc>
>
> dpreview only shows the older version with Leica M mount.
>

It seems for 6+2 shots you need no larger than 14mm rectilinear lens or no
larger than 17 mm fisheye lens.

An 8mm (sigma?) is also an option for few shots (3 or 4), and might get you a
good resolution panorama with the D800.

Andre

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, awirealvr@... wrote:
>
> Read this on rectilinear wide angle lenses and stitching
>
>
http://michel.thoby.free.fr/Web_Gallery_&_Tests/Samyang%2014mm/Pano_with_8_shots\
_only.html
>
> Andre
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "cvoneinem" <einem@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, awirealvr@ wrote:
> > >
> > > bat a big advantage for the nikon could be: At 16 mm or less it
> > > will stitch at 6 images at 0 degrees +nadir and zenith.
> > >
> > > Andre
> >
> > Did someone already have the chance to test the new Zeiss Distagon f2.8 15
mm rectilinear lens?
> > <http://lenses.zeiss.com/photo/en_DE/products/slr/distagont2815.html>
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuBybxN8XCc>
> >
> > dpreview only shows the older version with Leica M mount.
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Rohn

To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:35 PM

Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: D800 + ~ 16 mm

 

there is also a new zeiss 15mm f2.8 rectilinear for nikon & canon mount coming soon -

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/03/16/zeiss-distagon-t-15mm-f2-8-zf-2-lens-nikon-mount-announced.aspx/

http://www.zeissimages.com/showreplies.php?qid=873

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FuBybxN8XCc#!

sam

Sam Rohn :: New York City
Panoramic Photography :: http://www.samrohn.com
Location Scout :: http://www.nylocations.com

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...> wrote:
>
> Excuse me for a possible double post in case that someone has asked similar question...
> I am looking for my new standard "daily-use" combo Nikon D800 + Nikkor 16 mm but would like to get even better lenses with similar angle. Any tips?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bostjan
>

Hi,

Does anyone know of or have for sale a Sigma 8mm f3.5 lens for sale? (Nikon fit)

Thanks,

Andrew.

this will be cool to align a pano using IMU data. unfortunately, you'll need a
$500 IMU to get data that is even remotely usable.

Maybe in a few years it will be a reality for hackers, and maybe in 5-10 years
(seriously) it will be a part of cameras.

Oh, you can already do it with a smartphone camera, of course :) (if you have
the proper kind of app that will write this IMU data to the image metadata)

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "g8dhe" <yahoo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> Yup, we have to start somewhere!  Its also on the Pano2VR radar, and has been
for some time, but its less critical once its been thru the stitcher's, but
still handy to specify a starting position to view a Pano with.
>
> Geoff
>

one of the keys to offering cool hardware on kickstarter is being able to offer
it for less than $100. then you can get a lot of virality and impulse buyers.

kickstarter is really awesome.


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/449163977/galileo-your-ios-in-motion
>
> extraordinarily popular project for what one would think would be a niche
market
>
> PeterM
>

Jeff, I wouldn't expect any sensibly priced system to be capable of providing
perfect template working.
My purpose at this stage is to be able to place the images in roughly the right
position, much the same as using a grid, simply to avoid false matches when the
images are not aligned at all using normal automatically placed CP's.
The magnetic sensors in use currently are quite adequate for the above, but the
speed of updating could be improved, at present the systems tend to work on the
GPS concept of providing async. updates rather than taking the reading at the
point the shutter is pressed, but this will require the GPS and compass systems
to be integrated with the camera, but that we will have to wait for!

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Am 19.04.2012 17:49, schrieb prague:
> this will be cool to align a pano using IMU data. unfortunately, you'll need a
$500 IMU to get data that is even remotely usable.

https://shop.tinkerforge.com/imu-brick.html

How would you rate the usability of this board? The resolution sounds
pretty good.


Cheers,
Gerhard
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http://www.behance.net/gallery/ART-DIRECTION-INSTRUMENTS-FROM-INSIDE/340016

makes me wish for more "surprising panos inside things"

PeterM