Ok, yes I agree on that, i'am not looking to get into a moire fight ;-)

Looking at the image ot the gridded path, I didn't see a recognisable beyer
pattern moire.
So i'll defenitely go for an "E".
In the past I've had some really bad examples of moire with the kodak pro14n. I
think this was the only other camera without an AA filter.


Andre

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...> wrote:
>
> Am 25.04.2012 22:01, schrieb awirealvr@...:
> > I have to disagree with Erik, moire is not necessarily colored.
>
> You are absolutely right with all of your points. However, we search for
> bayer pattern moiré here, which usually is colored. Even if you overlay
> a strict black and white pattern on a bayer sensor, the moiré will be
> colored.
>
> --
> Erik Krause
> http://www.erik-krause.de
>

Will 3D imaging replace static 360 degree panoramas?
It looks like it's only a matter of time.

Quote...

Visit global landmarks with photo tours in Google Maps
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 at 6:00 AM

Every year, millions of people pack their bags and head to far-off places to
enjoy sites and cultures different from their own. While there, they snap photos
to document their trip and share their excursions online. Yet none of these
individual photos captures the experience of actually being immersed in a
specific location. With today's introduction of photo tours, a feature of Google
Maps that guides you through a 3D photo scene, we're one step closer.

...Unquote

<http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2012/04/visit-global-landmarks-with-photo-to\
urs.html>

Erik Leeman

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:57:24 +0900, erik_leeman <erik.leeman@...>
wrote:

> Will 3D imaging replace static 360 degree panoramas?
> It looks like it's only a matter of time.
>
> Quote...
>
> Visit global landmarks with photo tours in Google Maps
> Wednesday, April 25, 2012 at 6:00 AM
>
> Every year, millions of people pack their bags and head to far-off
> places to enjoy sites and cultures different from their own. While
> there, they snap photos to document their trip and share their
> excursions online. Yet none of these individual photos captures the
> experience of actually being immersed in a specific location. With
> today's introduction of photo tours, a feature of Google Maps that
> guides you through a 3D photo scene, we're one step closer.
>
> ...Unquote
>
>
<http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2012/04/visit-global-landmarks-with-photo-to\
urs.html>

That's interesting, Erik. As you will remember, I was keen to integrate
videos into my panorama tours a couple of years ago.

As I see it, there are at least two ways of going about a video photo
tour. One is to take a 360-degree video at successive spots, and have
people able to look around and watch what is going on at each spot. I
imagine the video would loop... and people would move on when they
realized they were seeing the same thing over again. This is not so
different from what a "static" panorama-based tour does, except that
people look around at a static scene. This currently has advantages in
the quality of the image (how far you can zoom in, what is visible,
etc). There is also the short-term advantage of much smaller files,
although the way things are going file size is not going to be a factor
for very long.

The other approach is to thread your way through a tourist site with
a 360-degree video camera, allowing people to look around at the
passing scene, much as visitors to London do on an open-top double-
decker bus. This could be a lot of fun, but would necessarily involve
very careful choice of the route...

If the latter becomes the mainstream, then what WE call panoramas
may be relegated to "spots" in the movie much as non-panoramic photos
or information are relegated to "spots" in our panoramic tours.

I don't see panorama photographers being put out of work, but they
will surely have to learn a whole bag of new tricks.

Roger W.

--
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Pleasure: www.usefilm.com/member/roger
Panorama: Rogerama at photosynth.net

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Willy Kaemena <panokaemena@...> wrote:
>
> Erik
> did you notice  that  Streetview  in Google Maps  has  3D ( switchable in
contextual menu)  which looks  pretty  cool with  red/green  glasses

It looks like all the street view panoramas has gone through an optimizer.
Saturation is increased, especially green has got quite a lot more.

And the panning performance is far better then I seen before. At least thats
what I see on Mac.

Also there are new satellite photos.  My house is now updated to the changes I
did 4 years ago and my car bought in 2009 i on them. Also much higher resolution
in the big cities.

They need to start doing blurring in the gardens looking for naked sunbathers.

Hans


>
> Willy
>
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:57, erik_leeman wrote:
>
> > Will 3D imaging replace static 360 degree panoramas?
> > It looks like it's only a matter of time.
> >
> > Quote...
> >
> > Visit global landmarks with photo tours in Google Maps
> > Wednesday, April 25, 2012 at 6:00 AM
> >
> > Every year, millions of people pack their bags and head to far-off places to
enjoy sites and cultures different from their own. While there, they snap photos
to document their trip and share their excursions online. Yet none of these
individual photos captures the experience of actually being immersed in a
specific location. With today's introduction of photo tours, a feature of Google
Maps that guides you through a 3D photo scene, we're one step closer.
> >
> > ...Unquote
> >
> >
<http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2012/04/visit-global-landmarks-with-photo-to\
urs.html>
> >
> > Erik Leeman
> >
> > _
> >
>

This 3d photosynth-like navigation of UGC photos has been in google maps for 2
or 3 years. looks like they're re-launching it in WebGL however.

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "erik_leeman" <erik.leeman@...> wrote:
>
> Will 3D imaging replace static 360 degree panoramas?
> It looks like it's only a matter of time.
>
> Quote...
>
> Visit global landmarks with photo tours in Google Maps
> Wednesday, April 25, 2012 at 6:00 AM
>
> Every year, millions of people pack their bags and head to far-off places to
enjoy sites and cultures different from their own. While there, they snap photos
to document their trip and share their excursions online. Yet none of these
individual photos captures the experience of actually being immersed in a
specific location. With today's introduction of photo tours, a feature of Google
Maps that guides you through a 3D photo scene, we're one step closer.
>
> ...Unquote
>
>
<http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2012/04/visit-global-landmarks-with-photo-to\
urs.html>
>
> Erik Leeman
>

Large resolution needs large lens.

Here is your chance to get  it.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a378241/nikon-fisheye-lens-goes-on-sale-fo\
r-gbp100000.html

Hans

WOW!  I'd be afraid to even touch it....

Hans wrote:
> Large resolution needs large lens.
>
> Here is your chance to get  it.
>
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a378241/nikon-fisheye-lens-goes-on-sale-fo\
r-gbp100000.html
>
> Hans
>
>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8032290@N04/sets/72157629529420520/

Hi

I just noticed that a few panos I uploaded to Flickr a few years ago, which
could be viewed using SPi-V, can now be viewed using krpano. Cool.

Bill

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8032290@N04/sets/72157629529420520/

Hi

I just noticed that a few panos I uploaded to Flickr a few years ago, which
could be viewed using SPi-V, can now be viewed using krpano. Cool.

Bill

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Voisan <gregvoisan@...> wrote:
>
> I use Panotour Pro and output in html5. Works on all iPad/iPhone as well as
> Android/pc on my Wordpress site everytime.

<snip>
Hi Greg,
I downloaded a trial version of Panotour Pro 1.8.0 to give it a try. Sadly the
Panotour developer has crippled the trial version of Panotour so that it will
only export a Flash, and not an html5, version of my "test" panorama. I am
unable to confirm first hand whether Panotour is suitable for my purpose. In any
case, many thanks for your reply.
-
Regards, Peter Sale USA

My 15mm 2.8 is SO good it can be second only to 16mm Zeiss Contax. Many others here had quite different experiences...

Il giorno 24 aprile 2012 07:32, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...> ha scritto:

At f22 the images would be too soft, especially with lenses like Sigma 8 mm. But Sigma is a lottery anyway... I had two 8 mm Sigmas and one was with excellent sharpness when the other was a bit too soft.

Bostjan

---

From: Erik Krause <erik.krause@...>
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:39 PM
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: D800 + Sigma8

Am 23.04.2012 19:35, schrieb macbenutzer:
> Hi Aldo, yes, right. Taking the image at n22 will help, too:)

Probably not. At f/22 diffraction will be large enough to prevent moiré...

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de


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Aldo upgraded the backend script to use krpano instead of his SPI-V viewer that used shockwave.. that displays an equirectangular image hosted on flickr.

 

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From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yazan Sboul
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:40 PM
To: panotoolsng@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PanoToolsNG] Flickr

 

 

Not sure what you mean? Can they be viewed on flick or do you just mean that they can be published as a krpano tour?

---

To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
From: billward@...
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:20:41 +0000
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Flickr

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8032290@N04/sets/72157629529420520/

Hi

I just noticed that a few panos I uploaded to Flickr a few years ago, which could be viewed using SPi-V, can now be viewed using krpano. Cool.

Bill

Hey Bostjan, there is a German Feisol shop
http://www.feisol.de/shopping_cart.php?sort=2a&op=list

@ Luca
What would that be good for?
Maximum height 205cm is not really impressive. Nor is the weight.
It only might be handy if one is looking for a solution where one is walking
around with a monopod but wants to prepared in case he wants to shoot an HDR or
something that needs precise LPP position.  Not sure if the thin legs will
provide enough stability. Someone has to test it :)

Cheers
Jürgen

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...> wrote:
>
> Nice product. Is is possible to get it in Europe and not been under the  usury
of the EU customs and tax?
>
> Bostjan
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: luca vascon <luca.vascon@...>
> To: panotoolsng <PANOtoolsng@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:57 PM
> Subject: [PanoToolsNG] FEISOL CM-1473 monopod with legs, any good?
>
>
>  
>
>
> I've seen this:
> http://www.feisol.net/feisol-monopod-cm1473-rapid-p-108.html
> I've touched and tried feisol products in the past. All my kudos to them.
Simple, good, welldone sturdy and lightweight. Not cheap but worth.
> My concern is it will be wobbling like all legged monopods.
> But the legs are long, have a sturdy mechanics, etc. etc.
> And looks like it is done for us.--
> Luca Vascon.
>
> www.nuovostudio.it
> www.officinepanottiche.com
>

Hi all,

Just a short note to let you know that the venue for the PanoTools
Meeting 2012 has been set!

We had originally planned to host the meeting at the Panorama Mesdag
museum. After the extensive remodeling they are undergoing we were
unable to secure a suitable meeting room over there, but we're proud
we've found a great new venue for the meeting: the Barth Chapel in The
Hague. This atmospheric building is a former monastery, located right in
the center of the city. We will be using the meeting room in the complex
and we'll have access to the garden where we can have a coffee between
talks.

See the photos here:
http://www.panotools-meeting.com/meetings/2012-hague-netherlands

Location of the chapel:
http://g.co/maps/jkb6z

Further we've secured a block of rooms in the nearby Ibis hotel for
group booking. Details will follow shortly.

The meeting will be held on 10, 11 and 12 september, with excursions
planned on 13 september (most of the day) and 14 september (only in the
morning). Details on the excursions will be announced a few weeks before
the meeting.

All in all we're excited to organize the meeting here and we hope to
welcome you in Den Haag in september!

--
The PTM2012 team

Mr. Reilly, what kind of a quick-release do you use with this?

--
--Peter

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...> wrote:
>
> Viele danke Jürgen,
>
> I never heard for Feisol, but it seems interesting brand, but I need to get it
in hand to get the impression. I found even more interesting Feisol tripod which
can be hiking
monopod/tripod: http://www.feisol.de/feisol-reisestativ-ct3441t-rapid-p-106.html

Damned! Thats my copyright.
http://www.panoramas.dk/gondola/gondolashoot.html

Hans


>
> Bostjan
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: jrgen_schrader <panorama@...>
> To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:44 AM
> Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: FEISOL CM-1473 monopod with legs, any good?
>
>
>  
> Hey Bostjan, there is a German Feisol shop
http://www.feisol.de/shopping_cart.php?sort=2a&op=list
>
> @ Luca
> What would that be good for?
> Maximum height 205cm is not really impressive. Nor is the weight.
> It only might be handy if one is looking for a solution where one is walking
around with a monopod but wants to prepared in case he wants to shoot an HDR or
something that needs precise LPP position.  Not sure if the thin legs will
provide enough stability. Someone has to test it :)
>
> Cheers
> Jürgen
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@> wrote:
> >
> > Nice product. Is is possible to get it in Europe and not been under the
 usury of the EU customs and tax?
> >
> > Bostjan
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: luca vascon <luca.vascon@>
> > To: panotoolsng <PANOtoolsng@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:57 PM
> > Subject: [PanoToolsNG] FEISOL CM-1473 monopod with legs, any good?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> > I've seen this:
> > http://www.feisol.net/feisol-monopod-cm1473-rapid-p-108.html
> > I've touched and tried feisol products in the past. All my kudos to them.
Simple, good, welldone sturdy and lightweight. Not cheap but worth.
> > My concern is it will be wobbling like all legged monopods.
> > But the legs are long, have a sturdy mechanics, etc. etc.
> > And looks like it is done for us.--
> > Luca Vascon.
> >
> > www.nuovostudio.it
> > www.officinepanottiche.com
> >
>

No the JS version requires cubefaces or tiles at least.. 

Not a full 360x180 image.

Best Regards,

Sacha Griffin