Am 27.04.2012 08:44, schrieb jrgen_schrader:
> Hey Bostjan, there is a German Feisol shop

They deliver to german speaking countries only, but there is a European
representation (in english) as well: http://www.feisoleurope.com/

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

I have a four section carbon fiber Feisol tripod I bought to take on a
160 mile walk in the Karakoram mountains of northern Kashmir in 2007. I
use it all the time and have not had any problems with it.

Paul Fretheim

Hi,

I would like to introduce a new immersive project that shows 360videos presented
in immersive environment last year in Krakow, Poland.

This video gives you a short introduction to °The Milosz Compass°:
http://vimeo.com/41195429

This is a link to the project:
http://www.themiloszcompass.com

53 video panoramas present places visited by Czeslaw Milosz
(http://goo.gl/okH1I) (Polish Noble Prize Winner in Literature in 1980): Poland,
Lithuania, USA (California), France etc...

I created it in Lucid Viewer (version 7.6).
There are some problems in presenting FLV immersive videos in that viewer when
Flash Player 11.2 (and also 11.3 beta) is installed. I tested the website with
Flash Player 11.1 and all videos are played well.

What do you think about the project?
Do you have the same issues in Flash Viewer 11.1 and 11.2?

Best wishes,
Karol Kwiatek
http://www.twitter.com/uop360

I recently upgraded to 3.1.4 64bit version of Pano2VR. When I try to
output to html5 I get the error message "Error loading panorama XML."
with FireFox and Safari. With Explorer 32 bit the panorama skin loads
and the panorama appears briefly and then the display window for the
panorama turns black. The skin controls remain displayed, but other than
the information button are not active.

Has anyone else experienced these issues? Do you have a solution?

Thank you.

Paul Fretheim
Inyo Pro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8UsEKQZnU

(looks better if you up the resolution on playback and choose B/W in the 3d
options and choose fullscreen)

this is a frenzied crowd scene (gambling on Anzac Day) shot handheld over my
head with a Gopro3d rig. Because I was in one spot I could use the masked area
of the building in the background to stabilize the shot with PTGui (and
simultaneously align L and R views and level and convert to Vedutismo). If I was
moving through the crowd this wouldnt work and I would have to use other
stabisation software like Deshaker for Virtualdub. One advantage of fisheye
lenses for post-stabilising is that the wide view often gives you unobstructed
static areas in all the shots  (eg. the tops of buildings -- which can be used
for efficient tracking by PTGui etc)

Actually when I got there I realised this would be a good scene for a regular
panorama -- I will have to make one if I can next year

PeterM

Paul, have you tried the Pano2VR blog.  They are very good and very responsive
there.

http://gardengnomesoftware.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=f2a3406bf250539e0fcef\
5ed3ab53240

Paul Fretheim wrote:
>   I recently upgraded to 3.1.4 64bit version of Pano2VR. When I try to
> output to html5 I get the error message "Error loading panorama XML."
> with FireFox and Safari. With Explorer 32 bit the panorama skin loads
> and the panorama appears briefly and then the display window for the
> panorama turns black. The skin controls remain displayed, but other than
> the information button are not active.
>
> Has anyone else experienced these issues? Do you have a solution?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Paul Fretheim
> Inyo Pro
>

Hmmm, my own concern was about wobbling, for the small legs, and long monopod.

@Jurgen, 

keep in mind that is a long, sturdy monopod, and that it can be paired with a 2nd monopod reversed on it (the way I did a lot of 3m high shots) 

@Hans, 

I also used a small, welldone chinese tripod with a long monopod inserted as central column (it was the right diameter), just before we made the Venice meeting. But I never mounted  it with the original column and the rotator between the 2, coz it was decreasing stability.

Later I also completely reversed the scheme, using larger tripods, and attatching the camera to the small edge of the monopod..

This increases stability and highness reachable. Though Agnos rotators and Manfrotto 300n are sturdy enough, I always prefer to rotate the tripod column and to have a straight connection between the tripod column and the monopod. I think my way  is less confortable, but more simple and secure. Did you upgraded that setup after the gondola shot? what directions took?

@all,

I used Feisol once. My impression was very good. I have many Manfrottos, one Gitzo, a Giottos, and 2 Berlebach, that are the ones that I'm mostly attatched to.

--
Luca Vascon.

www.nuovostudio.it
www.officinepanottiche.com

Here for comparison is the original video from one of the cameras (the L one as
it happens)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l2f0uvEhV8

.. before they have been levelled, aligned to each other (parallelized so 
minimized vertical disparities for stereo viewing), stabilized and perspective
transformed to Vedutismo (via intermediate equi steps)  - with PTGui

PeterM

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8UsEKQZnU
>
> (looks better if you up the resolution on playback and choose B/W in the 3d
options and choose fullscreen)
>
> this is a frenzied crowd scene (gambling on Anzac Day) shot handheld over my
head with a Gopro3d rig. Because I was in one spot I could use the masked area
of the building in the background to stabilize the shot with PTGui (and
simultaneously align L and R views and level and convert to Vedutismo). If I was
moving through the crowd this wouldnt work and I would have to use other
stabisation software like Deshaker for Virtualdub. One advantage of fisheye
lenses for post-stabilising is that the wide view often gives you unobstructed
static areas in all the shots  (eg. the tops of buildings -- which can be used
for efficient tracking by PTGui etc)
>
> Actually when I got there I realised this would be a good scene for a regular
panorama -- I will have to make one if I can next year
>
> PeterM
>

So spending a whole day last weekend to calibrate all of my cameras and lenses
with Adobe Lens Profile Creator may not have been worth the effort?
Still, I have good geometric distortion correction and vignetting information
which I don't think Adobe could auto calculate for one-off photos.

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans" <hans@...> wrote:
>
> I wanted to check some D800 Raw files and had to download the latest Beta
release of Camera Raw.
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw6-7/?tabID=details#tabTop
>
> The images was from a 15mm Sigma and I could not see any CA. It turned out
that Camera Raw now have auto removement. No sliders of any kind.
> You find it in the Profiles as an option to unbook. It is booked by default
and the only option you have in addition is the defringe.
>
> Putting it in the profile option is not quite correct though I think as it
works without any profiles. It should be together with the defringe.
> No exif needed . My shaved 10.5 5D and old lenses like my 30 year old Nikkor
28mm or even Pentax 67 lenses on adapters are all perfectly CA corrected
automatically.
>
> Do not ask me how it is done.
>
> Hans
>

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <richard_j_powell@...> wrote:
>
> So spending a whole day last weekend to calibrate all of my cameras and lenses
with Adobe Lens Profile Creator may not have been worth the effort?
> Still, I have good geometric distortion correction and vignetting information
which I don't think Adobe could auto calculate for one-off photos.

The automatic CA correction is an independent option and does not really belong
to the profiles.
I think it is a failure  putting it in the options for the profiles. It should
have been together with the defringe option.

Hans



>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans" <hans@> wrote:
> >
> > I wanted to check some D800 Raw files and had to download the latest Beta
release of Camera Raw.
> > http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw6-7/?tabID=details#tabTop
> >
> > The images was from a 15mm Sigma and I could not see any CA. It turned out
that Camera Raw now have auto removement. No sliders of any kind.
> > You find it in the Profiles as an option to unbook. It is booked by default
and the only option you have in addition is the defringe.
> >
> > Putting it in the profile option is not quite correct though I think as it
works without any profiles. It should be together with the defringe.
> > No exif needed . My shaved 10.5 5D and old lenses like my 30 year old Nikkor
28mm or even Pentax 67 lenses on adapters are all perfectly CA corrected
automatically.
> >
> > Do not ask me how it is done.
> >
> > Hans
> >
>

Am 29.04.2012 11:26, schrieb Christian Bloch:
>
> Silly question, but could that data also be used to *apply* these lens
> flaws to a clean photo?
> That could be really useful for compositing.

What do you want to apply? Certainly not CA and lens distortion.
Vignetting can be easily applied but of course there are a lot of
plugins that do exactly that.

CA can be applied with any program that has manual CA correction,
including PTLens or any panotools GUI (hugin, PTGui, etc) if you
separate the channels into single images.

Lens distortion can be applied with panotools GUI's as well. Simply
enter the abc parameters manually...

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, luca vascon <luca.vascon@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, my own concern was about wobbling, for the small legs, and long
> monopod.
> @Jurgen,
> keep in mind that is a long, sturdy monopod, and that it can be paired with
> a 2nd monopod reversed on it (the way I did a lot of 3m high shots)
> @Hans,
> I also used a small, welldone chinese tripod with a long monopod inserted
> as central column (it was the right diameter), just before we made the
> Venice meeting. But I never mounted  it with the original column and the
> rotator between the 2, coz it was decreasing stability.
> Later I also completely reversed the scheme, using larger tripods, and
> attatching the camera to the small edge of the monopod..
> This increases stability and highness reachable. Though Agnos rotators and
> Manfrotto 300n are sturdy enough, I always prefer to rotate the tripod
> column and to have a straight connection between the tripod column and the
> monopod. I think my way  is less confortable, but more simple and secure.
> Did you upgraded that setup after the gondola shot? what directions took?
> @all,

I done several versions.

Here is my latest. A superlight travelset. Just got it and have not used it 
much yet.
Long winter. Tomorrow spring is here they say so maybe.
You need to be a little patient though if you need to shoot log exposures,
http://www.panoramas.dk/panorama/tripod/cullmann+giotto.jpg

Hans


> I used Feisol once. My impression was very good. I have many Manfrottos,
> one Gitzo, a Giottos, and 2 Berlebach, that are the ones that I'm mostly
> attatched to.
>
> --
> Luca Vascon.
>
> www.nuovostudio.it
> www.officinepanottiche.com
>

Am 29.04.2012 20:33, schrieb Christian Bloch:
> I guess I would just invert all the measured values and enter them manually.
> Have to try that.

For the abc parameters that won't probably work. You can get a feeling
what they do if you download abc.xls from http://www.4pi.org/downloads/
and play with the sliders.

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

Your are the man on 3D Peter ! It looks really good, I think you should have a
blog and write some tutorials ^_^

Regards !
Enrique.


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <panovrx@...> wrote:
>
> Here for comparison is the original video from one of the cameras (the L one
as it happens)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l2f0uvEhV8
>
> .. before they have been levelled, aligned to each other (parallelized so 
minimized vertical disparities for stereo viewing), stabilized and perspective
transformed to Vedutismo (via intermediate equi steps)  - with PTGui
>
> PeterM
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <panovrx@> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8UsEKQZnU
> >
> > (looks better if you up the resolution on playback and choose B/W in the 3d
options and choose fullscreen)
> >
> > this is a frenzied crowd scene (gambling on Anzac Day) shot handheld over my
head with a Gopro3d rig. Because I was in one spot I could use the masked area
of the building in the background to stabilize the shot with PTGui (and
simultaneously align L and R views and level and convert to Vedutismo). If I was
moving through the crowd this wouldnt work and I would have to use other
stabisation software like Deshaker for Virtualdub. One advantage of fisheye
lenses for post-stabilising is that the wide view often gives you unobstructed
static areas in all the shots  (eg. the tops of buildings -- which can be used
for efficient tracking by PTGui etc)
> >
> > Actually when I got there I realised this would be a good scene for a
regular panorama -- I will have to make one if I can next year
> >
> > PeterM
> >
>

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Robert Lesac <robert@...> wrote:
>
> So you people with NN M1, how repeatable do you find the setup?
> Good enough for template stitching?

Yesterday, I tried making a template with a panorama shot in the garden (bewteen
showers!). I then used the template to stitch a panorama which I shot in my
kitchen.  That came out ok, which was encouraging: no visible stitching errors. 
Today, I packed the tripod, M1L head and camera in a back pack and shot some
panoramas at the river Ouse at Barford, and they, too came out rather well. 
This is one (no control points, and straight out of PTGui):

http://www.johnhpanos.com/barf-no-cps.htm

I took a viewpoint nadir shot but that was left out of the stitch shown here. 
The camera was Canon 5DII + Canon 8-15mm fisheye at 15mm.  Tripod: Feisol
CT3441S.

John

On Tue, 01 May 2012 02:43:23 +0900, John Houghton
<j.houghton@...> wrote:

> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Robert Lesac <robert@...> wrote:
>>
>> So you people with NN M1, how repeatable do you find the setup?
>> Good enough for template stitching?
>
> Yesterday, I tried making a template with a panorama shot in the garden
> (bewteen showers!). I then used the template to stitch a panorama which
> I shot in my kitchen.  That came out ok, which was encouraging: no
> visible stitching errors.  Today, I packed the tripod, M1L head and
> camera in a back pack and shot some panoramas at the river Ouse at
> Barford, and they, too came out rather well.  This is one (no control
> points, and straight out of PTGui):
>
> http://www.johnhpanos.com/barf-no-cps.htm
>
> I took a viewpoint nadir shot but that was left out of the stitch shown
> here.  The camera was Canon 5DII + Canon 8-15mm fisheye at 15mm.
> Tripod: Feisol CT3441S.

That really is astonishingly good for a pure template-generated panorama
with no control points. I wish there were some way for templates to work
with hand-held monopod sequences. <wry grin>

Roger W.

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