Creative long-exposure use of a 30 camera "bullet time" rig.
https://vimeo.com/59474122
Lots of results here:
http://360player.nl/

I've seen this setup in person. It was fun to hear the cameras beep in quick
succession as they turned on and started taking pictures.


'do

The day I can create a Pano, with HDR on a tablet will be the day I start to use
one seriously! Until then they are effectively read/display only devices.

I got a Nikon 1 V1, the Nikon entry into the mirrorless camera arena,
yesterday and took the first pictures with it today. It takes RAW 10
megapixel images at 14 bit, I think, I'll have to check that.

I am happy with the image quality. I have a Nikon D200 and I think the
V1 matches or maybe even surpasses the images from the much bigger and
heavier D200. It doesn't have the good bracketing capabilities of the
D200, so if I am going to be photographing Sequoia groves or something I
will still need to lug the DSLR gear, but for most uses the N1 looks
like it is going to work.

The interpretive staff at Grand Canyon National Park commissioned me in
2011 to shoot a panoramic image from Plateau Point inside the Canyon
that is now an 18' x 6' mural that is the main attraction at one end of
the new main visitors center, right next to the entrance to the theater
where they screen the Ken Burns film on the Grand Canyon in continuous
loop. I shot that image with the ten megapixel D200. (many, like 175,
exposures stitched to the final image using an 85 mm (in 35 mm terms) lens.

The kit with the V1 and the 10-30 and the 30-110mm lenses is still
available at B&H and is priced at an $800 discount at $399. They won't
last long, so if you have been debating getting into the mirrorless
world, now is the time.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/11/14/the-nikon-v1-camera-review-the-camera-i\
-expected-to-hate/

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/07/16/camera-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-\
stop-worrying-about-the-sensor-and-love-the-camera-by-craig-litten/

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Category_Mirrorless+System+Cameras&ci\
=16158&N=4288586281+4291315846

Sample pano at 1/4 resolution. Shot with raw with the 30-110mm in
program mode and iso 100 at 35.89 mm focal length. 8 images

http://inyopro.com/images/carson_and_colorado_.5.jpg

That train is at the Eastern California Museum about 2 blocks from my
house. The Carson and Colorado was a steam powered narrow gauge railroad
that ran through the length of the Owens Valley up until 1960.
Unfortunately no one understood the tourism value of old steam trains
and the tracks were torn up and sold for scrap. We have a locomotive
here in Independence that we are restoring and will be laying a mile or
so of track so we can run the train at least a little bit.

Paul Fretheim

Thanks Blochi,
I'll have one!
Michael

--
Michael Bajko BFA
The Fine Art Of Panoramic Photography
Waimate, Ssouth Canterbury
Aotearoa/ New Zealand

That day has come already, Microsoft's new tablet should allow you to do
that..

Joost

On 13/02/2013 21:59, g8dhe wrote:
> The day I can create a Pano, with HDR on a tablet will be the day I start to
use one seriously! Until then they are effectively read/display only devices.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>

Hi Fabio
Did you try to run Photoshop as an Administrator?. I struggled a long time with
PTCorrect on Photoshop CS6 before reading Jim Watter's notes on his site (just
before writing to him!).
All other plug-ins worked but PTCorrect...After running as an Administrator all
went fine
Jean Huberson

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jim Watters <jwatters@...> wrote:
>
> Yes that version does suffer that issue after a few uses of larger images.
>
> I have been very slow at getting a new version out.  Right now I still have a
few days left to a vacation.  The new version does not seam to suffer this
problem but still needs some features to have everything as the current version.
>
> A search of this list will find a link to a beta 64bit Windows version.
>
> Sent via phone.
>
> Jim Watters
> http://photocreations.ca
>
> Fabio Bustamante <contato@...> wrote:
>
> >Hey Fernando,
> >
> >Comming to think of it, I think I've been using his versions of the
> >plugins. I just thought that some other version could be more stable.
> >
> >Fact is my panotools plugin for PS (specially the adjust) is a bit
> >buggy. Every time I apply it to a certain number of images it starts
> >giving an error message and I have to restart PS. And now that I'm
> >working with higher resolution images, I have to do it more ofen (every
> >2 or 3 uses), which is starting to become annoying. So I figured that
> >maybe a different version could be free from this bug.
> >
> >Do you have any idea why PS doesn't recognize the 8BF plugins from the
> >sourceforge page? BTW, did you ever encounter this bug?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Fabio
> >
> >Em 02/12/2010 16:09, Fernando Chaves escreveu:
> >> Hi Fabio,
> >> I'm using the installer from Jim Watters, on winvista 32.
> >>
> >> http://www.photocreations.ca/panotools/index.html
> >>
> >> It works fine in ps3, ps4 and 5 (32 bits).
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Fernando
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] De la
> >> part de Fabio Bustamante
> >> Envoyé : 2 décembre 2010 12:27
> >> À : PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> >> Objet : [PanoToolsNG] Filters for PS
> >>
> >> Today I decided to check out the newer version of the PT plugins for PS,
> >> since the ones I'm using here are so old I can't even remember where I
> >> got them.
> >>
> >> Problem is that after I place the files in PS's plugins folder, it
> >> apparently does not recognizes them. I'm placing the files
> >> (PTAdjust.8BF, PTCorrect.8BF, etc.) in the same folder the old ones used
> >> to be, but after PS is launched the "filter" shows no panotools option.
> >> Aparently they won't work both on PS 32 and 64 bits. These newer files
> >> are quite bigger than my old ones (76kb vs 8,5kb).
> >>
> >> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >--
> >
> >
> >
>

Am 16.02.2013 15:54, schrieb Thomas:
> 1] do all PT family stitchers use the same coordinate system as original
> PanoTools?

As for Yaw, Roll and Pitch: Yes, as far as I know. The TrX, TrY, TrZ
mosaic coordinate model is unique to hugin/nona. PTGui uses a different
model with 5 coordinates: VPx, VPy, VPz, VPpan and VPtilt. They are not
documented (AFAIK) but Helmut Dersch found them out for himself and
implemented them in PTStitcherNG.

Furthermore PTGui uses PTStitcher o-line C-coordinates while hugin/nona
use S-coordinates. That means hugin coordinates are relative to the
complete source image while PTGui coordinates are relative to the
cropped image specified by the C-coodinates (the crop rectangle/circle).
See
http://wiki.panotools.org/PTStitcher#o-line_options for details

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

On 2013-02-17 6:47 AM, Erik Krause wrote:
> Am 16.02.2013 15:54, schrieb Thomas:
>> 1] do all PT family stitchers use the same coordinate system as original
>> PanoTools?
> As for Yaw, Roll and Pitch: Yes, as far as I know. The TrX, TrY, TrZ
> mosaic coordinate model is unique to hugin/nona. PTGui uses a different
> model with 5 coordinates: VPx, VPy, VPz, VPpan and VPtilt. They are not
> documented (AFAIK) but Helmut Dersch found them out for himself and
> implemented them in PTStitcherNG.
  From Helmut: "PTGui uses a 2-axis pan/tilt + 3-d translation, in that order"
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/39331

Dev Ghosh who originally worked on the mosic mode for Hugin during a GSoC, but
never got finished, has just posted on the hugin-ptx list, "mosaic mode with
intuitive warp parameters", that he is implementing his original method to
create orthogonal views.



>
> Furthermore PTGui uses PTStitcher o-line C-coordinates while hugin/nona
> use S-coordinates. That means hugin coordinates are relative to the
> complete source image while PTGui coordinates are relative to the
> cropped image specified by the C-coodinates (the crop rectangle/circle).
> See
> http://wiki.panotools.org/PTStitcher#o-line_options for details
Yes the GUIs of PTGui and Hugin use different cropping models.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/6212
PTStitcher definitely understands both.

--
Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

Thank you Jim and Erik.

The references on PTStitcher are helpful.

I am having a devil of a time figuring out how to apply PTGui y,p,r to a
panosphere having a right-handed coordinate system (meaning my X axis points
left) Like PT, view is centered on (0,0,1) at y=p=r=0.  Inverting the X axis in
the rotation matrix seems to give correct alignments, however my projection
mapping fns then fail.

I need to invert the hand again without losing the alignment, this is surely
possible but I can't find the right way to do it.

Alternatively I could revert to left-handed coords, which Panini used for a long
time, but I feel a bit stubborn since it took some effort to convert everything
to right-handed.

-- Tom

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jim Watters <jwatters@...> wrote:
>
> On 2013-02-17 6:47 AM, Erik Krause wrote:
> > Am 16.02.2013 15:54, schrieb Thomas:
> >> 1] do all PT family stitchers use the same coordinate system as original
> >> PanoTools?
> > As for Yaw, Roll and Pitch: Yes, as far as I know. The TrX, TrY, TrZ
> > mosaic coordinate model is unique to hugin/nona. PTGui uses a different
> > model with 5 coordinates: VPx, VPy, VPz, VPpan and VPtilt. They are not
> > documented (AFAIK) but Helmut Dersch found them out for himself and
> > implemented them in PTStitcherNG.
>  From Helmut: "PTGui uses a 2-axis pan/tilt + 3-d translation, in that order"
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/39331
>
> Dev Ghosh who originally worked on the mosic mode for Hugin during a GSoC, but
> never got finished, has just posted on the hugin-ptx list, "mosaic mode with
> intuitive warp parameters", that he is implementing his original method to
> create orthogonal views.
>
>
>
> >
> > Furthermore PTGui uses PTStitcher o-line C-coordinates while hugin/nona
> > use S-coordinates. That means hugin coordinates are relative to the
> > complete source image while PTGui coordinates are relative to the
> > cropped image specified by the C-coodinates (the crop rectangle/circle).
> > See
> > http://wiki.panotools.org/PTStitcher#o-line_options for details
> Yes the GUIs of PTGui and Hugin use different cropping models.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/6212
> PTStitcher definitely understands both.
>
> --
> Jim Watters
> http://photocreations.ca
>

Am 17.02.2013 21:07, schrieb Thomas:
> I need to invert the hand again without losing the alignment, this is
> surely possible but I can't find the right way to do it.

Read on Euler angles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_angles

(This is the exact point where my knowledge ends ;-)

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

Hi Ken,

I have both lenses and although I've not done a critical test I would say there
is no difference in sharpness at f/5.6.  The 2.8 has slightly sharper edges at
f/3.5, and I have a feeling the 3.5 may control flare a bit better.

-- Tom


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone has done a comparison test between the two Samyang
fisheyes for NEX.  Samyang/Rokinon has a 8mm f2.8 -- the new one -- and the
first gneeration 8mm f3.5 with an E-mount
>
> The first generation fishey -- the f3.5 -- is getting cheap.  It's big and
clumsy compared to the f3.5 but maybe it's a better lens than the f2.8.  It
would be interesting to see a comparison.  That's something that I don't have
the resources to do.
>
> Has anyone done a comparison?
>

http://www.kinecthacks.com/space-recall-for-kinect/

PeterM

Immerse your self into Sound and Vision, Beck reimagined Bowie's Sound and Vision. An amazing job. It is worth the download.

-- Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

Thanks Tom.  Good info.

On 2/19/2013 11:09 AM, Thomas wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> I have both lenses and although I've not done a critical test I would say
there is no difference in sharpness at f/5.6.  The 2.8 has slightly sharper
edges at f/3.5, and I have a feeling the 3.5 may control flare a bit better.
>
> -- Tom
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner<kwarner000@...>  wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has done a comparison test between the two Samyang
fisheyes for NEX.  Samyang/Rokinon has a 8mm f2.8 -- the new one -- and the
first gneeration 8mm f3.5 with an E-mount
>>
>> The first generation fishey -- the f3.5 -- is getting cheap.  It's big and
clumsy compared to the f3.5 but maybe it's a better lens than the f2.8.  It
would be interesting to see a comparison.  That's something that I don't have
the resources to do.
>>
>> Has anyone done a comparison?
>>
>
>
>

> Immerse your self into Sound and Vision, Beck reimagined Bowie's Sound
> and Vision. An amazing job. It is worth the download.
>
> http://www.hello-again.com/beck360/main/beck360.html

* squint at the camera rigs *

Are those... gopros? If so, the biggest question is how they got them all stable
enough, without them crapping out due to overheating, sdcard issues or whatever.

> > http://www.hello-again.com/beck360/main/beck360.html
>
> * squint at the camera rigs *
>
> Are those... gopros?

Yes. In a 360heros rig:
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/02/beck-360-degree-online-video/
Impressive low light performance, and good blending too.

You must be a powerful squinter -- all I see is a black window.

On 2/19/2013 11:45 PM, Aldo Hoeben wrote:
>> Immerse your self into Sound and Vision, Beck reimagined Bowie's Sound
>> and Vision. An amazing job. It is worth the download.
>>
>> http://www.hello-again.com/beck360/main/beck360.html
>
> * squint at the camera rigs *
>
> Are those... gopros? If so, the biggest question is how they got them all
stable enough, without them crapping out due to overheating, sdcard issues or
whatever.
>
>

http://www.zdnet.com/google-glass-contest-gives-non-devs-a-chance-to-grab-1500-s\
pecs-7000011561/

Interesting. But the fact that winners have to live in the US and will still
have to pay $1,500 for their Glass rather takes the gilt off.

Roger W

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 21, 2013, at 1:32 AM, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:

>
http://www.zdnet.com/google-glass-contest-gives-non-devs-a-chance-to-grab-1500-s\
pecs-7000011561/
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
>
>
>

On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:08, Roger D Williams <roger@...> wrote:

> Interesting. But the fact that winners have to live in the US and will still
have to pay $1,500 for their Glass rather takes the gilt off.

Yep. In other words.... damn!

Ah well, one day...

k

More on the rig, the 3d printing of the rig, and the Beck shoot here:
http://cubify.com/blog/cubex-entrepreneurs-360-heros-camera-used-in-new-beck-vid\
eo/