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#56250 From: "Sacha Griffin" <sachagriffin@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:35 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Html5 xml and image encyrption
sachagriffin
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If anyone has ever used a retina iPad, this would be their choice for viewing virtual tours.

CPU tech is diminishing every day. Tablets are getting faster and faster. People are abandoning laptops for tablets in droves.

There’s no reason to carry around a 3 pound laptop when a 6 ounce tablet does the same thing better with a touch screen.

Everyone has abandoned flash for html5/webgl. There are no flash only projects anywhere in development. This could have been said a year ago.

I haven’t run into flash only content in ages. If your content is flash only, people simply close the window and move on.

 

Potential revenue lost.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sacha Griffin

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From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Wheeler
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:08 PM
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Html5 xml and image encyrption

 

 


On 02/12/2013, at 10:10 PM, giant_klobasa_monster wrote:
> EVERY SINGLE INQUIRY we get from a potential client wants the ability to show the panos on "mobile devices"
> [ snip ]
> for the record, i use apple and android and windows, and they're all CRAP! :-)

Ahhh, but we've been spoilt by big, high res screens, expecting crisp high res images, and for many of us, our eyes aren't what they used to be 20 years ago ;-)

The "mobile" generation are after instant gratification, cheap drinks rather than quality wine. They haven't developed a discerning palate and in the race to do things faster or easier may never do ...

Cheers,
KathyW.


#56251 From: "Aldo Hoeben" <aldo@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:04 am
Subject: Lightpainting object rig
ahoeben41
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Creative long-exposure use of a 30 camera "bullet time" rig.
https://vimeo.com/59474122
Lots of results here:
http://360player.nl/

I've seen this setup in person. It was fun to hear the cameras beep in quick
succession as they turned on and started taking pictures.


'do

#56252 From: Christian Bloch <Blochi@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: Lightpainting object rig
blochonsen
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That is the most awesome thing I've seen in a long time, thanks for sharing!

Just wish they would show the results not on a flat monitor, but on a pseudo-holographic   spinning mirror display like this:

Blochi


On Feb 13, 2013, at 12:04 AM, Aldo Hoeben <aldo@...> wrote:

 

Creative long-exposure use of a 30 camera "bullet time" rig.
https://vimeo.com/59474122
Lots of results here:
http://360player.nl/

I've seen this setup in person. It was fun to hear the cameras beep in quick succession as they turned on and started taking pictures.

'do



#56253 From: "g8dhe" <yahoo@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: Html5 xml and image encyrption
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The day I can create a Pano, with HDR on a tablet will be the day I start to use
one seriously! Until then they are effectively read/display only devices.

#56254 From: Paul Fretheim <paul@...>
Date: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:49 am
Subject: Nikon 1 V1
inyopro
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I got a Nikon 1 V1, the Nikon entry into the mirrorless camera arena,
yesterday and took the first pictures with it today. It takes RAW 10
megapixel images at 14 bit, I think, I'll have to check that.

I am happy with the image quality. I have a Nikon D200 and I think the
V1 matches or maybe even surpasses the images from the much bigger and
heavier D200. It doesn't have the good bracketing capabilities of the
D200, so if I am going to be photographing Sequoia groves or something I
will still need to lug the DSLR gear, but for most uses the N1 looks
like it is going to work.

The interpretive staff at Grand Canyon National Park commissioned me in
2011 to shoot a panoramic image from Plateau Point inside the Canyon
that is now an 18' x 6' mural that is the main attraction at one end of
the new main visitors center, right next to the entrance to the theater
where they screen the Ken Burns film on the Grand Canyon in continuous
loop. I shot that image with the ten megapixel D200. (many, like 175,
exposures stitched to the final image using an 85 mm (in 35 mm terms) lens.

The kit with the V1 and the 10-30 and the 30-110mm lenses is still
available at B&H and is priced at an $800 discount at $399. They won't
last long, so if you have been debating getting into the mirrorless
world, now is the time.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/11/14/the-nikon-v1-camera-review-the-camera-i\
-expected-to-hate/

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/07/16/camera-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-\
stop-worrying-about-the-sensor-and-love-the-camera-by-craig-litten/

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Category_Mirrorless+System+Cameras&ci\
=16158&N=4288586281+4291315846

Sample pano at 1/4 resolution. Shot with raw with the 30-110mm in
program mode and iso 100 at 35.89 mm focal length. 8 images

http://inyopro.com/images/carson_and_colorado_.5.jpg

That train is at the Eastern California Museum about 2 blocks from my
house. The Carson and Colorado was a steam powered narrow gauge railroad
that ran through the length of the Owens Valley up until 1960.
Unfortunately no one understood the tourism value of old steam trains
and the tracks were torn up and sold for scrap. We have a locomotive
here in Independence that we are restoring and will be laying a mile or
so of track so we can run the train at least a little bit.

Paul Fretheim

#56255 From: Michael Bajko BFA - The Fine Art of Panoramic Photography <michael@...>
Date: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:39 am
Subject: Re: Lightpainting object rig
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Thanks Blochi,
I'll have one!
Michael

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#56256 From: Joost Nieuwenhuijse <imim@...>
Date: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:30 am
Subject: Re: Re: Html5 xml and image encyrption
imim_newhouse
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That day has come already, Microsoft's new tablet should allow you to do
that..

Joost

On 13/02/2013 21:59, g8dhe wrote:
> The day I can create a Pano, with HDR on a tablet will be the day I start to
use one seriously! Until then they are effectively read/display only devices.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>

#56257 From: "nosrebuh" <jean.huberson@...>
Date: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: Filters for PS
nosrebuh
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Hi Fabio
Did you try to run Photoshop as an Administrator?. I struggled a long time with
PTCorrect on Photoshop CS6 before reading Jim Watter's notes on his site (just
before writing to him!).
All other plug-ins worked but PTCorrect...After running as an Administrator all
went fine
Jean Huberson

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jim Watters <jwatters@...> wrote:
>
> Yes that version does suffer that issue after a few uses of larger images.
>
> I have been very slow at getting a new version out.  Right now I still have a
few days left to a vacation.  The new version does not seam to suffer this
problem but still needs some features to have everything as the current version.
>
> A search of this list will find a link to a beta 64bit Windows version.
>
> Sent via phone.
>
> Jim Watters
> http://photocreations.ca
>
> Fabio Bustamante <contato@...> wrote:
>
> >Hey Fernando,
> >
> >Comming to think of it, I think I've been using his versions of the
> >plugins. I just thought that some other version could be more stable.
> >
> >Fact is my panotools plugin for PS (specially the adjust) is a bit
> >buggy. Every time I apply it to a certain number of images it starts
> >giving an error message and I have to restart PS. And now that I'm
> >working with higher resolution images, I have to do it more ofen (every
> >2 or 3 uses), which is starting to become annoying. So I figured that
> >maybe a different version could be free from this bug.
> >
> >Do you have any idea why PS doesn't recognize the 8BF plugins from the
> >sourceforge page? BTW, did you ever encounter this bug?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Fabio
> >
> >Em 02/12/2010 16:09, Fernando Chaves escreveu:
> >> Hi Fabio,
> >> I'm using the installer from Jim Watters, on winvista 32.
> >>
> >> http://www.photocreations.ca/panotools/index.html
> >>
> >> It works fine in ps3, ps4 and 5 (32 bits).
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Fernando
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] De la
> >> part de Fabio Bustamante
> >> Envoyé : 2 décembre 2010 12:27
> >> À : PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
> >> Objet : [PanoToolsNG] Filters for PS
> >>
> >> Today I decided to check out the newer version of the PT plugins for PS,
> >> since the ones I'm using here are so old I can't even remember where I
> >> got them.
> >>
> >> Problem is that after I place the files in PS's plugins folder, it
> >> apparently does not recognizes them. I'm placing the files
> >> (PTAdjust.8BF, PTCorrect.8BF, etc.) in the same folder the old ones used
> >> to be, but after PS is launched the "filter" shows no panotools option.
> >> Aparently they won't work both on PS 32 and 64 bits. These newer files
> >> are quite bigger than my old ones (76kb vs 8,5kb).
> >>
> >> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >--
> >
> >
> >
>

#56258 From: "Thomas" <TKSharpless@...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:54 pm
Subject: Technical question on PT coordinate system
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I am implementing a new fast stitcher for array cameras, which must be able to use some PT script parameters as saved by Hugin and PTGui, namely camera alignments and lens corrections. I have some questions about the panosphere coordinate system used in those stitchers .

Please refer to the drawing on the PT Wiki page "stitching a photo-mosaic" [here]

1] do all PT family stitchers use the same coordinate system as original PanoTools?

2] is it really left-handed, as implied by the drawing?

3] is the zero yaw, zero pitch point really (0,0,1)?

4] is the panosphere radius the unit of trX, trY, trZ ?

Thanks, Tom

#56259 From: Erik Krause <erik.krause@...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:47 am
Subject: Re: Technical question on PT coordinate system
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Am 16.02.2013 15:54, schrieb Thomas:
> 1] do all PT family stitchers use the same coordinate system as original
> PanoTools?

As for Yaw, Roll and Pitch: Yes, as far as I know. The TrX, TrY, TrZ
mosaic coordinate model is unique to hugin/nona. PTGui uses a different
model with 5 coordinates: VPx, VPy, VPz, VPpan and VPtilt. They are not
documented (AFAIK) but Helmut Dersch found them out for himself and
implemented them in PTStitcherNG.

Furthermore PTGui uses PTStitcher o-line C-coordinates while hugin/nona
use S-coordinates. That means hugin coordinates are relative to the
complete source image while PTGui coordinates are relative to the
cropped image specified by the C-coodinates (the crop rectangle/circle).
See
http://wiki.panotools.org/PTStitcher#o-line_options for details

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#56260 From: Jim Watters <jwatters@...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:42 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Technical question on PT coordinate system
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On 2013-02-17 6:47 AM, Erik Krause wrote:
> Am 16.02.2013 15:54, schrieb Thomas:
>> 1] do all PT family stitchers use the same coordinate system as original
>> PanoTools?
> As for Yaw, Roll and Pitch: Yes, as far as I know. The TrX, TrY, TrZ
> mosaic coordinate model is unique to hugin/nona. PTGui uses a different
> model with 5 coordinates: VPx, VPy, VPz, VPpan and VPtilt. They are not
> documented (AFAIK) but Helmut Dersch found them out for himself and
> implemented them in PTStitcherNG.
  From Helmut: "PTGui uses a 2-axis pan/tilt + 3-d translation, in that order"
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/39331

Dev Ghosh who originally worked on the mosic mode for Hugin during a GSoC, but
never got finished, has just posted on the hugin-ptx list, "mosaic mode with
intuitive warp parameters", that he is implementing his original method to
create orthogonal views.



>
> Furthermore PTGui uses PTStitcher o-line C-coordinates while hugin/nona
> use S-coordinates. That means hugin coordinates are relative to the
> complete source image while PTGui coordinates are relative to the
> cropped image specified by the C-coodinates (the crop rectangle/circle).
> See
> http://wiki.panotools.org/PTStitcher#o-line_options for details
Yes the GUIs of PTGui and Hugin use different cropping models.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/6212
PTStitcher definitely understands both.

--
Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

#56261 From: "Thomas" <TKSharpless@...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:07 pm
Subject: Re: Technical question on PT coordinate system
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Thank you Jim and Erik.

The references on PTStitcher are helpful.

I am having a devil of a time figuring out how to apply PTGui y,p,r to a
panosphere having a right-handed coordinate system (meaning my X axis points
left) Like PT, view is centered on (0,0,1) at y=p=r=0.  Inverting the X axis in
the rotation matrix seems to give correct alignments, however my projection
mapping fns then fail.

I need to invert the hand again without losing the alignment, this is surely
possible but I can't find the right way to do it.

Alternatively I could revert to left-handed coords, which Panini used for a long
time, but I feel a bit stubborn since it took some effort to convert everything
to right-handed.

-- Tom

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jim Watters <jwatters@...> wrote:
>
> On 2013-02-17 6:47 AM, Erik Krause wrote:
> > Am 16.02.2013 15:54, schrieb Thomas:
> >> 1] do all PT family stitchers use the same coordinate system as original
> >> PanoTools?
> > As for Yaw, Roll and Pitch: Yes, as far as I know. The TrX, TrY, TrZ
> > mosaic coordinate model is unique to hugin/nona. PTGui uses a different
> > model with 5 coordinates: VPx, VPy, VPz, VPpan and VPtilt. They are not
> > documented (AFAIK) but Helmut Dersch found them out for himself and
> > implemented them in PTStitcherNG.
>  From Helmut: "PTGui uses a 2-axis pan/tilt + 3-d translation, in that order"
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/39331
>
> Dev Ghosh who originally worked on the mosic mode for Hugin during a GSoC, but
> never got finished, has just posted on the hugin-ptx list, "mosaic mode with
> intuitive warp parameters", that he is implementing his original method to
> create orthogonal views.
>
>
>
> >
> > Furthermore PTGui uses PTStitcher o-line C-coordinates while hugin/nona
> > use S-coordinates. That means hugin coordinates are relative to the
> > complete source image while PTGui coordinates are relative to the
> > cropped image specified by the C-coodinates (the crop rectangle/circle).
> > See
> > http://wiki.panotools.org/PTStitcher#o-line_options for details
> Yes the GUIs of PTGui and Hugin use different cropping models.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/6212
> PTStitcher definitely understands both.
>
> --
> Jim Watters
> http://photocreations.ca
>

#56262 From: Erik Krause <erik.krause@...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: Technical question on PT coordinate system
ekrause2003
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Am 17.02.2013 21:07, schrieb Thomas:
> I need to invert the hand again without losing the alignment, this is
> surely possible but I can't find the right way to do it.

Read on Euler angles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_angles

(This is the exact point where my knowledge ends ;-)

--
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#56263 From: luca vascon <luca.vascon@...>
Date: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: italian law prohibiting any image containing a church being used commercially?
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;-)
In Italy it SHOULD be client's headhache. we have bureaucracy and things so responsability is made roll down to the last of the chain.


2013/2/7 Sam Rohn <nylocations@...>
other than FOP the client is probably concerned w potential liability rather than it being specifically "illegal", someone just decides they don't want to take any chances on being sued later on

in USA, permission to use an image of a specific exterior church in a commercial project would typically be obtained directly from the church, or maybe archdiocese etc, even though it might not be legally required for a non trademarked exterior many clients will want a location release anyway just to be safe and keep their lawyers happy

but typically to obtain a location release for a given building and specific usage is the clients headache, not the photographers, and in a large cityscape like of manhattan for example no release is required as it might be for a close up of a specific building, no one could ever get a release for an entire cityscape for all possible usage anyway

if they are concerned about liability, they need to contact whoever and get a release, if they don't want a church for some other reason, photoshop it out and put in another structure

sam

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Sam Rohn :: New York City
Panoramic Photography :: http://www.samrohn.com
Location Scout :: http://www.nylocations.com


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Martin  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been told by a potential client that they are not allowed to license
> one of our images, because it contains a church in it.
>
> In a landscape / cityscape image, if there is a church visible, is it
> legally required to secure permission from the church?
>
> is this for real? Or is it just another "law" that is never enforced?
>




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#56264 From: Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...>
Date: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:23 am
Subject: Re: Re: italian law prohibiting any image containing a church being used commercially?
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Any image... so in sattelite images all areas with churches are blured? Landsat is illegal then...conclusion, TV news broadcasting from e.g. Rome is illegal? lol... commercial is everything when earn money or you have income right? All Panoramio, Flickr etc... photos containing Italian churches are then illegal... because there are ads beside ... and that is commerical...

Boštjan

Ps... provoking only ;)


From: luca vascon <luca.vascon@...>
To: panotoolsng <PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: italian law prohibiting any image containing a church being used commercially?

 
;-)
In Italy it SHOULD be client's headhache. we have bureaucracy and things so responsability is made roll down to the last of the chain.


2013/2/7 Sam Rohn <nylocations@...>
other than FOP the client is probably concerned w potential liability rather than it being specifically "illegal", someone just decides they don't want to take any chances on being sued later on

in USA, permission to use an image of a specific exterior church in a commercial project would typically be obtained directly from the church, or maybe archdiocese etc, even though it might not be legally required for a non trademarked exterior many clients will want a location release anyway just to be safe and keep their lawyers happy

but typically to obtain a location release for a given building and specific usage is the clients headache, not the photographers, and in a large cityscape like of manhattan for example no release is required as it might be for a close up of a specific building, no one could ever get a release for an entire cityscape for all possible usage anyway

if they are concerned about liability, they need to contact whoever and get a release, if they don't want a church for some other reason, photoshop it out and put in another structure

sam

- - - - -
Sam Rohn :: New York City
Panoramic Photography :: http://www.samrohn.com
Location Scout :: http://www.nylocations.com


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Martin  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been told by a potential client that they are not allowed to license
> one of our images, because it contains a church in it.
>
> In a landscape / cityscape image, if there is a church visible, is it
> legally required to secure permission from the church?
>
> is this for real? Or is it just another "law" that is never enforced?
>



#56265 From: Fernando Costa Pinto <fcp.fernando@...>
Date: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: italian law prohibiting any image containing a church being used commercially?
fcp.fernando
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so glad i live in Brazil ..so freeeeeee..so very few rules ....


On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...> wrote:
 

Any image... so in sattelite images all areas with churches are blured? Landsat is illegal then...conclusion, TV news broadcasting from e.g. Rome is illegal? lol... commercial is everything when earn money or you have income right? All Panoramio, Flickr etc... photos containing Italian churches are then illegal... because there are ads beside ... and that is commerical...

Boštjan

Ps... provoking only ;)


From: luca vascon <luca.vascon@...>
To: panotoolsng <PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: italian law prohibiting any image containing a church being used commercially?

 
;-)
In Italy it SHOULD be client's headhache. we have bureaucracy and things so responsability is made roll down to the last of the chain.


2013/2/7 Sam Rohn <nylocations@...>
other than FOP the client is probably concerned w potential liability rather than it being specifically "illegal", someone just decides they don't want to take any chances on being sued later on

in USA, permission to use an image of a specific exterior church in a commercial project would typically be obtained directly from the church, or maybe archdiocese etc, even though it might not be legally required for a non trademarked exterior many clients will want a location release anyway just to be safe and keep their lawyers happy

but typically to obtain a location release for a given building and specific usage is the clients headache, not the photographers, and in a large cityscape like of manhattan for example no release is required as it might be for a close up of a specific building, no one could ever get a release for an entire cityscape for all possible usage anyway

if they are concerned about liability, they need to contact whoever and get a release, if they don't want a church for some other reason, photoshop it out and put in another structure

sam

- - - - -
Sam Rohn :: New York City
Panoramic Photography :: http://www.samrohn.com
Location Scout :: http://www.nylocations.com


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Martin  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been told by a potential client that they are not allowed to license
> one of our images, because it contains a church in it.
>
> In a landscape / cityscape image, if there is a church visible, is it
> legally required to secure permission from the church?
>
> is this for real? Or is it just another "law" that is never enforced?
>





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#56266 From: "Thomas" <TKSharpless@...>
Date: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: Which is sharper -- Samyang f2.8 or Samyang f3.5 fisheye?
tksharpless
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Hi Ken,

I have both lenses and although I've not done a critical test I would say there
is no difference in sharpness at f/5.6.  The 2.8 has slightly sharper edges at
f/3.5, and I have a feeling the 3.5 may control flare a bit better.

-- Tom


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone has done a comparison test between the two Samyang
fisheyes for NEX.  Samyang/Rokinon has a 8mm f2.8 -- the new one -- and the
first gneeration 8mm f3.5 with an E-mount
>
> The first generation fishey -- the f3.5 -- is getting cheap.  It's big and
clumsy compared to the f3.5 but maybe it's a better lens than the f2.8.  It
would be interesting to see a comparison.  That's something that I don't have
the resources to do.
>
> Has anyone done a comparison?
>

#56267 From: "Thomas" <TKSharpless@...>
Date: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: italian law prohibiting any image containing a church being used commercially?
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Let's not pick on Italy, this is a world-wide problem.
For example (IVRPA beware !)

<br>--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans" <hans@...> wrote:<br>><br>> <br>> <br>> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Martin wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Hi,<br>> > <br>> > I've been told by a potential client that they are not allowed to license<br>> > one of our images, because it contains a church in it.<br>> > <br>> > In a landscape / cityscape image, if there is a church visible, is it<br>> > legally required to secure permission from the church?<br>> > <br>> > is this for real? Or is it just another "law" that is never enforced?<br>> ><br>> <br>> I guess this is what they talk about.<br>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:FOP<br>> <br>> Hans<br>><br>

#56268 From: "panovrx" <mediavr@...>
Date: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:22 pm
Subject: A panoramic projection with Kinect tracking application
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#56269 From: Jim Watters <jwatters@...>
Date: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:19 pm
Subject: Immerse yourself with Beck and Sound and Vision using 360 video
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Immerse your self into Sound and Vision, Beck reimagined Bowie's Sound and Vision. An amazing job. It is worth the download.
http://www.hello-again.com/beck360/main/beck360.html

-- Jim Watters
http://photocreations.ca

#56270 From: Ken Warner <kwarner000@...>
Date: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Which is sharper -- Samyang f2.8 or Samyang f3.5 fisheye?
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Thanks Tom.  Good info.

On 2/19/2013 11:09 AM, Thomas wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> I have both lenses and although I've not done a critical test I would say
there is no difference in sharpness at f/5.6.  The 2.8 has slightly sharper
edges at f/3.5, and I have a feeling the 3.5 may control flare a bit better.
>
> -- Tom
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Ken Warner<kwarner000@...>  wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has done a comparison test between the two Samyang
fisheyes for NEX.  Samyang/Rokinon has a 8mm f2.8 -- the new one -- and the
first gneeration 8mm f3.5 with an E-mount
>>
>> The first generation fishey -- the f3.5 -- is getting cheap.  It's big and
clumsy compared to the f3.5 but maybe it's a better lens than the f2.8.  It
would be interesting to see a comparison.  That's something that I don't have
the resources to do.
>>
>> Has anyone done a comparison?
>>
>
>
>

#56271 From: Bostjan Burger <si_lander@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:25 am
Subject: WWP events in 2013
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The info about the events in 2013

March - Scale
Open Photography: 14-24 March 2013
Open Editing: 14-31 March 2013
Live: 5 April 2013
 
 
June - Machines
Open Photography: 13-23 June 2013
Open Editing: 13-30 June 2013
Live: 5 July 2013
 
 
September - Mortality
Open Photography: 19-29 September 2013
Open Editing: 19 September 2013 - 6 October 2013
Live: 11 October
 2013
 
 
December - Best of 2013
Open Editing: 12-29 December 2013
Live: 1 January 2014
 
You can follow the news here: http://www.facebook.com/TheWorldWidePanorama or here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/117016369644820881943
 
Boštjan / WWP team

#56272 From: "Aldo Hoeben" <aldo@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:45 am
Subject: Re: Immerse yourself with Beck and Sound and Vision using 360 video
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> Immerse your self into Sound and Vision, Beck reimagined Bowie's Sound
> and Vision. An amazing job. It is worth the download.
>
> http://www.hello-again.com/beck360/main/beck360.html

* squint at the camera rigs *

Are those... gopros? If so, the biggest question is how they got them all stable
enough, without them crapping out due to overheating, sdcard issues or whatever.

#56273 From: "Aldo Hoeben" <aldo@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:48 am
Subject: Re: Immerse yourself with Beck and Sound and Vision using 360 video
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> > http://www.hello-again.com/beck360/main/beck360.html
>
> * squint at the camera rigs *
>
> Are those... gopros?

Yes. In a 360heros rig:
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/02/beck-360-degree-online-video/
Impressive low light performance, and good blending too.

#56274 From: Ken Warner <kwarner000@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Immerse yourself with Beck and Sound and Vision using 360 video
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You must be a powerful squinter -- all I see is a black window.

On 2/19/2013 11:45 PM, Aldo Hoeben wrote:
>> Immerse your self into Sound and Vision, Beck reimagined Bowie's Sound
>> and Vision. An amazing job. It is worth the download.
>>
>> http://www.hello-again.com/beck360/main/beck360.html
>
> * squint at the camera rigs *
>
> Are those... gopros? If so, the biggest question is how they got them all
stable enough, without them crapping out due to overheating, sdcard issues or
whatever.
>
>

#56275 From: Ken Warner <kwarner000@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:32 pm
Subject: Tell Google how you'd use 3D glasses for panos and get free 3D glasses.
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#56276 From: panokaemena@...
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Immerse yourself with Beck and Sound and Vision using 360 video
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yes what is hanging  over the  center of the stage are clearly a bunch of GoPros.!!  if you see only a black window.... then  this impressive video is still not ready loaded !! even with a very fast internet ( dl 1.6Mb/s)  it takes unbelievable long time. I am sure 90% of the viewers will give up and think that this is only a black picture.....

It is  really the most impressive 360º video ( in fact 3 videos) which I have ever seen.



Willy

On Feb 20, 2013, at 17:22, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:

 

You must be a powerful squinter -- all I see is a black window.

On 2/19/2013 11:45 PM, Aldo Hoeben wrote:
>> Immerse your self into Sound and Vision, Beck reimagined Bowie's Sound
>> and Vision. An amazing job. It is worth the download.
>>
>> http://www.hello-again.com/beck360/main/beck360.html
>
> * squint at the camera rigs *
>
> Are those... gopros? If so, the biggest question is how they got them all stable enough, without them crapping out due to overheating, sdcard issues or whatever.
>



#56277 From: Roger D Williams <roger@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:08 am
Subject: Re: Tell Google how you'd use 3D glasses for panos and get free 3D glasses.
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Interesting. But the fact that winners have to live in the US and will still
have to pay $1,500 for their Glass rather takes the gilt off.

Roger W

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 21, 2013, at 1:32 AM, Ken Warner <kwarner000@...> wrote:

>
http://www.zdnet.com/google-glass-contest-gives-non-devs-a-chance-to-grab-1500-s\
pecs-7000011561/
>
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>
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#56278 From: Keith Martin <keith@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:40 am
Subject: Re: Tell Google how you'd use 3D glasses for panos and get free 3D glasses.
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On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:08, Roger D Williams <roger@...> wrote:

> Interesting. But the fact that winners have to live in the US and will still
have to pay $1,500 for their Glass rather takes the gilt off.

Yep. In other words.... damn!

Ah well, one day...

k

#56279 From: "Aldo Hoeben" <aldo@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:39 am
Subject: Re: Immerse yourself with Beck and Sound and Vision using 360 video
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More on the rig, the 3d printing of the rig, and the Beck shoot here:
http://cubify.com/blog/cubex-entrepreneurs-360-heros-camera-used-in-new-beck-vid\
eo/

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