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On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:08, Roger D Williams <roger@...> wrote:

> Interesting. But the fact that winners have to live in the US and will still
have to pay $1,500 for their Glass rather takes the gilt off.

Yep. In other words.... damn!

Ah well, one day...

k

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#56279

From: "Aldo Hoeben" <aldo@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:39 am
Subject: Re: Immerse yourself with Beck and Sound and Vision using 360 video

ahoeben41

More on the rig, the 3d printing of the rig, and the Beck shoot here:
http://cubify.com/blog/cubex-entrepreneurs-360-heros-camera-used-in-new-beck-vid\
eo/

#56280

From: Jeffrey Martin <panoramas@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:20 pm
Subject: 320

giant_klobas...

http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html

i stitched a new pano, shot by myself, holger schulze, and tom mills.

we made it mostly to annoy hans nyberg but it also managed to get me on TV yesterday.

#56281

From: "Richard" <rcgvt@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:09 am
Subject: Non destructive editing

rcg_53

I read some while back that sharpening a panorama did some artifacting  to the
image being vied on a computer or phone?

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#56282

From: Sacha Griffin <sachagriffin@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:20 am
Subject: Re: Non destructive editing

sachagriffin

Overly strong sharpening does this. So either don't do it or use better glass.

Sacha Griffin

Southern Digital Solutions LLC �- Atlanta, Georgia

http://www.facebook.com/panoramas/

Office: 404-551-4275

On Feb 21, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Richard <rcgvt@...> wrote:

�

I read some while back that sharpening a panorama did some artifacting to the image being vied on a computer or phone?

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#56283

From: Robert Slade <robert@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:39 am
Subject: Re: 320

robertsladeuk

Great work Jeffrey, saw you on national TV this week - fascinating story
behind how the pano was created. Good to put a face to the name"
Rob
--

Jeffrey Martin wrote:
>
>
>
> i stitched a new pano, shot by myself, holger schulze, and tom mills.
>
> we made it mostly to annoy hans nyberg but it also managed to get me on
> TV yesterday.
>
> http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html

--
Robert Slade, Photographer
Manor Photography 07890 564889
http://www.manor-photography.com

#56284

From: SKAL <sir_kalot@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:51 am
Subject: Re: 320

sir_kalot

Hi,

sorry for the maybe silly question, but how tall was the pole you used
to do this great job ?

There is somewhere the stream in the net about your job?

SKAL

Il 22/02/2013 00:20, Jeffrey Martin ha scritto:
>
> i stitched a new pano, shot by myself, holger schulze, and tom mills.
>
> we made it mostly to annoy hans nyberg but it also managed to get me on
> TV yesterday.
>
> http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html
>
>

#56285

From: "french_don" <DCFrench@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:02 am
Subject: 320 gigapixel pano of London

french_don

http://btlondon2012.co.uk/

Impressive!

Unfortunately, the Share a view by email doesn't work - at least not on Windows
running Chrome.  I haven't tried any other browsers.

#56286

From: "french_don" <DCFrench@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:12 am
Subject: Re: 320 gigapixel pano of London

french_don

I was able to get a link to a view by selecting Twitter from the Share option.

 
http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html?view.hlookat=-96.9254&view.vlookat=6.1393&vi\
ew.fov=2.8085&imarkerath=-96.9254&imarkeratv=6.1393

(That was mean, wasn't it?)

BTW, what is a Buzby (the mascot that wins you a prize when you find it)?  How
will I know when I find it?

-- Don


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@...> wrote:
>
> http://btlondon2012.co.uk/
>
> Impressive!
>
> Unfortunately, the Share a view by email doesn't work - at least not on
Windows running Chrome.  I haven't tried any other browsers.
>

#56287

From: "John Houghton" <j.houghton@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:29 am
Subject: Re: 320

panostar

A really impressive result with excellent sharpness maintained even when zoomed
right in.  However there is a disturbing abrupt change in image quality as you
zoom out - and not a change for the better, either.  There's a nasty heavy
handed processed look - presumably an attempt to brighten up a dull, low
contrast image.

John

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Martin <panoramas@...> wrote:
>
> i stitched a new pano, shot by myself, holger schulze, and tom mills.
>
> we made it mostly to annoy hans nyberg but it also managed to get me on TV
> yesterday.
>
> http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html
>

#56288

From: panokaemena@...
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:20 am
Subject: Re: 320

panokaemena

The pole has a hight of 177m http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Tower

Willz

On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:51, SKAL <sir_kalot@...> wrote:

Hi,

sorry for the maybe silly question, but how tall was the pole you used
to do this great job ?

There is somewhere the stream in the net about your job?

SKAL

Il 22/02/2013 00:20, Jeffrey Martin ha scritto:
>
> i stitched a new pano, shot by myself, holger schulze, and tom mills.
>
> we made it mostly to annoy hans nyberg but it also managed to get me on
> TV yesterday.
>
> http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html
>
>

#56289

From: "Ormar" <rmrtmm@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: 320 gigapixel pano of London

rmrtmm

Don, you will know it when you find it. At least one I found quickly.
But it is for UK citizens only. So, don't waste your time, if you are not from
there.

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@...> wrote:
>
> I was able to get a link to a view by selecting Twitter from the Share option.
>
> 
http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html?view.hlookat=-96.9254&view.vlookat=6.1393&vi\
ew.fov=2.8085&imarkerath=-96.9254&imarkeratv=6.1393
>
> (That was mean, wasn't it?)
>
> BTW, what is a Buzby (the mascot that wins you a prize when you find it)?  How
will I know when I find it?
>
> -- Don
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@> wrote:
> >
> > http://btlondon2012.co.uk/
> >
> > Impressive!
> >
> > Unfortunately, the Share a view by email doesn't work - at least not on
Windows running Chrome.  I haven't tried any other browsers.
> >
>

#56290

From: Fernando Costa Pinto <fcp.fernando@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: 320

fcp.fernando

http://static.guim.co.uk/interactivestore/2013/2/1/1359683910917/471154/index.html

This one is beautifull too ..and has audio�from the places you zoom !! very very well done ..

ah ..and the pole has a high of �309,6 m srsrs

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:20 AM, <panokaemena@...> wrote:

�

The pole has a hight of 177m ��http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Tower

Willz

On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:51, SKAL <sir_kalot@...> wrote:

�
Hi,

sorry for the maybe silly question, but how tall was the pole you used
to do this great job ?

There is somewhere the stream in the net about your job?

SKAL

Il 22/02/2013 00:20, Jeffrey Martin ha scritto:
>
> i stitched a new pano, shot by myself, holger schulze, and tom mills.
>
> we made it mostly to annoy hans nyberg but it also managed to get me on
> TV yesterday.
>
> http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html
>
>

--
71 9906 9966 vivo

71 9173 2722 tim

71 3331 6723 fixo

#56291

From: Fernando Costa Pinto <fcp.fernando@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: 320

fcp.fernando

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/interactive/2013/feb/01/view-from-top-shard-london-interactive

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Fernando Costa Pinto <fcp.fernando@...> wrote:

This one is beautifull too ..and has audio�from the places you zoom !! very very well done ..
http://static.guim.co.uk/interactivestore/2013/2/1/1359683910917/471154/index.html

ah ..and the pole has a high of �309,6 m srsrs

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:20 AM, <panokaemena@...> wrote:

�

The pole has a hight of 177m ��http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Tower

Willz

On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:51, SKAL <sir_kalot@...> wrote:

�
Hi,

sorry for the maybe silly question, but how tall was the pole you used
to do this great job ?

There is somewhere the stream in the net about your job?

SKAL

Il 22/02/2013 00:20, Jeffrey Martin ha scritto:
>
> i stitched a new pano, shot by myself, holger schulze, and tom mills.
>
> we made it mostly to annoy hans nyberg but it also managed to get me on
> TV yesterday.
>
> http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html
>
>

--
71 9906 9966 vivo
71 9173 2722 tim

71 3331 6723 fixo

--
71 9906 9966 vivo

71 9173 2722 tim

71 3331 6723 fixo

#56292

From: Paul Fretheim <paul@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:01 pm
Subject: 320-gigapixel photo of London is the world's largest panoramic photo

inyopro

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/02/21/320-gigapixel-photo-of-London-is-the-wor\
lds-largest-panoramic-photo

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#56293

From: Erik Krause <erik.krause@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: 320

ekrause2003

Am 22.02.2013 10:29, schrieb John Houghton:
> A really impressive result with excellent sharpness maintained even
> when zoomed right in.  However there is a disturbing abrupt change in
> image quality as you zoom out - and not a change for the better,
> either.  There's a nasty heavy handed processed look - presumably an
> attempt to brighten up a dull, low contrast image.

If you zoom in you get a good resolution until there is a step where
another image is loaded. Not perfectly registered and with different
contrast. This image doesn't add more details. It only increases the image.

That's no surprise, since most likely this wasn't shot at f/4 which
would be needed to produce an effective resolution of 320 GP for a
spherical panorama. Higher aperture values cause more blurring due to
diffraction. See http://wiki.panotools.org/Diffraction#Resolution for
details. The extender doesn't increase the resolution since the
effective aperture is changed as well: The table shows the same values
for 800mm f/8 and 400mm f/4.

This is the end of the gigapixel race.

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

#56294

From: "french_don" <DCFrench@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: 320 gigapixel pano of London

french_don

I don't suppose that it is this black triangle:

http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html?view.hlookat=-96.0442&view.vlookat=6.2177&vi\
ew.fov=0.2983&imarkerath=-96.0442&imarkeratv=6.2177



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Ormar" <rmrtmm@...> wrote:
>
> Don, you will know it when you find it. At least one I found quickly.
> But it is for UK citizens only. So, don't waste your time, if you are not from
there.
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@> wrote:
> >
> > I was able to get a link to a view by selecting Twitter from the Share
option.
> >
> > 
http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html?view.hlookat=-96.9254&view.vlookat=6.1393&vi\
ew.fov=2.8085&imarkerath=-96.9254&imarkeratv=6.1393
> >
> > (That was mean, wasn't it?)
> >
> > BTW, what is a Buzby (the mascot that wins you a prize when you find it)? 
How will I know when I find it?
> >
> > -- Don
> >
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://btlondon2012.co.uk/
> > >
> > > Impressive!
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the Share a view by email doesn't work - at least not on
Windows running Chrome.  I haven't tried any other browsers.
> > >
> >
>

#56295

From: "french_don" <DCFrench@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:43 pm
Subject: Re: 320 gigapixel pano of London

french_don

Within a few seconds of posting that, I found one.  It should be easier to find
the others now that I know what it looks like.  Too bad that they don't tell you
that it is limited to UK residents before you waste a lot of time looking.

--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@...> wrote:
>
> I don't suppose that it is this black triangle:
>
>
http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html?view.hlookat=-96.0442&view.vlookat=6.2177&vi\
ew.fov=0.2983&imarkerath=-96.0442&imarkeratv=6.2177
>
>
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Ormar" <rmrtmm@> wrote:
> >
> > Don, you will know it when you find it. At least one I found quickly.
> > But it is for UK citizens only. So, don't waste your time, if you are not
from there.
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was able to get a link to a view by selecting Twitter from the Share
option.
> > >
> > > 
http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html?view.hlookat=-96.9254&view.vlookat=6.1393&vi\
ew.fov=2.8085&imarkerath=-96.9254&imarkeratv=6.1393
> > >
> > > (That was mean, wasn't it?)
> > >
> > > BTW, what is a Buzby (the mascot that wins you a prize when you find it)? 
How will I know when I find it?
> > >
> > > -- Don
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://btlondon2012.co.uk/
> > > >
> > > > Impressive!
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, the Share a view by email doesn't work - at least not on
Windows running Chrome.  I haven't tried any other browsers.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#56296

From: "french_don" <DCFrench@...>
Date: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:06 am
Subject: Re: 320 gigapixel pano of London

french_don

Found number two.  Only one more to find.  Of course, it is probably miles into
the distance.


--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@...> wrote:
>
> Within a few seconds of posting that, I found one.  It should be easier to
find the others now that I know what it looks like.  Too bad that they don't
tell you that it is limited to UK residents before you waste a lot of time
looking.
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't suppose that it is this black triangle:
> >
> >
http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html?view.hlookat=-96.0442&view.vlookat=6.2177&vi\
ew.fov=0.2983&imarkerath=-96.0442&imarkeratv=6.2177
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Ormar" <rmrtmm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Don, you will know it when you find it. At least one I found quickly.
> > > But it is for UK citizens only. So, don't waste your time, if you are not
from there.
> > >
> > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was able to get a link to a view by selecting Twitter from the Share
option.
> > > >
> > > > 
http://btlondon2012.co.uk/pano.html?view.hlookat=-96.9254&view.vlookat=6.1393&vi\
ew.fov=2.8085&imarkerath=-96.9254&imarkeratv=6.1393
> > > >
> > > > (That was mean, wasn't it?)
> > > >
> > > > BTW, what is a Buzby (the mascot that wins you a prize when you find
it)?  How will I know when I find it?
> > > >
> > > > -- Don
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "french_don" <DCFrench@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://btlondon2012.co.uk/
> > > > >
> > > > > Impressive!
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately, the Share a view by email doesn't work - at least not
on Windows running Chrome.  I haven't tried any other browsers.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#56297

From: hdrv <vromuald@...>
Date: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:20 am
Subject: Re: 320

romualdvareuse

Le 22 f�vr. 13 � 03:20, Jeffrey Martin a �crit :

> i stitched a new pano, shot by myself, holger schulze, and tom mills.
>
> we made it mostly to annoy hans nyberg but it also managed to get me
> on TV yesterday.

your motivation is so small that i think this image is not worth
looking at.

Romuald

#56298

From: "panovrx" <mediavr@...>
Date: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:06 pm
Subject: The Oculus Rift HMD and stereo panoramas

panovrx

The upcoming Oculus Rift is getting a great amount of interest as what is meant
to be the first affordable ultra wide field of view (and hence very immersive)
tracked head mounted display with very low latency tracking.
http://www.oculusvr.com/

The main forums for Rift and other VR discussion are at
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=137

In an attempt to encourage the developers there to add stereo panorama viewing
to the Rift functionality I have started a thread there where I will upload
stereo panorama pairs -- which some of you might like to play with perhaps -- in
Stereophoto Maker etc
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=138&t=16502&p=102096#p102096

PeterM

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#56299

From: "Mark D. Fink" <markdfink@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:00 am
Subject: OT - Different use for SNS HDR

markdfink

https://plus.google.com/#photos/111468463289492526581/albums/5848258688934368465

I’ve been playing around with SNS HDR recently on single images, not adding multiple exposures, and I really like some of the effects that I’m getting. It’s not designed for this, but think of it as an added bonus.

Have a look at two versions of a B&W conversion I did here:

Image #2 is what I got out of Lightroom. Image #1 is after running it through SNS HDR. Image #3 is the color original that I got from three exposures blended in SNS HDR.

Mark

#56300

From: "Sacha Griffin" <sachagriffin@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:23 am
Subject: RE: OT - Different use for SNS HDR

sachagriffin

Image 2 is far superior.

Image 1 has so much detail and dynamic range lost it looks like it could have been done with iphone5 and processed with something.

The image composition itself does not lend itself well towards black and white. Too much compositional focus is lost.

My two cents.

SNS is ok for multi-exposures.. for single exposures I have yet to see an example that isn’t better straight out of the raw converter.

Best Regards,

Sacha Griffin

Southern Digital Solutions LLC - Atlanta, Georgia

http://www.facebook.com/SeeIt360

https://plus.google.com/#photos/111468463289492526581/albums/5848258688934368465

Office: 404-551-4275

From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark D. Fink
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:00 PM
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] OT - Different use for SNS HDR

Have a look at two versions of a B&W conversion I did here:

Image #2 is what I got out of Lightroom. Image #1 is after running it through SNS HDR. Image #3 is the color original that I got from three exposures blended in SNS HDR.

Mark

#56301

From: "Mark Fink"<markdfink@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:32 am
Subject: RE: OT - Different use for SNS HDR

markdfink

Ok, two cents taken. The point is, try SNS HDR with a single image and see if you like what it can do.

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----

From: Sacha Griffin <sachagriffin@...>
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Feb 24, 2013 00:23:35 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: [PanoToolsNG] OT - Different use for SNS HDR

Image 2 is far superior.

Image 1 has so much detail and dynamic range lost it looks like it could have been done with iphone5 and processed with something.
The image composition itself does not lend itself well towards black and white. Too much compositional focus is lost.

My two cents.

SNS is ok for multi-exposures.. for single exposures I have yet to see an example that isn’t better straight out of the raw converter.

Best Regards,

Sacha Griffin
Southern Digital Solutions LLC - Atlanta, Georgia
http://www.seeit360.com
http://twitter.com/SeeIt360
http://www.facebook.com/SeeIt360
IM: sachagriffin007@...
Office: 404-551-4275

From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark D. Fink
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:00 PM
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] OT - Different use for SNS HDR

I’ve been playing around with SNS HDR recently on single images, not adding multiple exposures, and I really like some of the effects that I’m getting. It’s not designed for this, but think of it as an added bonus.

Have a look at two versions of a B&W conversion I did here:

https://plus.google.com/#photos/111468463289492526581/albums/5848258688934368465

Image #2 is what I got out of Lightroom. Image #1 is after running it through SNS HDR. Image #3 is the color original that I got from three exposures blended in SNS HDR.

Mark

#56302

From: "Mark Fink"<markdfink@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:54 am
Subject: RE: OT - Different use for SNS HDR

markdfink

Sacha, on reflection I hope my reply didn't come across as curt. I appreciate you taking the time for constructive criticism.

Mark

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----

From: Sacha Griffin <sachagriffin@...>
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Feb 24, 2013 00:23:35 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: [PanoToolsNG] OT - Different use for SNS HDR

Image 2 is far superior.

Image 1 has so much detail and dynamic range lost it looks like it could have been done with iphone5 and processed with something.
The image composition itself does not lend itself well towards black and white. Too much compositional focus is lost.

My two cents.

SNS is ok for multi-exposures.. for single exposures I have yet to see an example that isn’t better straight out of the raw converter.

Best Regards,

Sacha Griffin
Southern Digital Solutions LLC - Atlanta, Georgia
http://www.seeit360.com
http://twitter.com/SeeIt360
http://www.facebook.com/SeeIt360
IM: sachagriffin007@...
Office: 404-551-4275

From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark D. Fink
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:00 PM
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PanoToolsNG] OT - Different use for SNS HDR

I’ve been playing around with SNS HDR recently on single images, not adding multiple exposures, and I really like some of the effects that I’m getting. It’s not designed for this, but think of it as an added bonus.

Have a look at two versions of a B&W conversion I did here:

https://plus.google.com/#photos/111468463289492526581/albums/5848258688934368465

Image #2 is what I got out of Lightroom. Image #1 is after running it through SNS HDR. Image #3 is the color original that I got from three exposures blended in SNS HDR.

Mark

#56303

From: "Sacha Griffin" <sachagriffin@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:53 am
Subject: RE: OT - Different use for SNS HDR

sachagriffin

No offense taken. I could have been less snarky as well.

Higher contrast is difficult to do without destroying dynamic range. In these cases I use a midtone mask or highlight or shadow depending on the image.

In my opinion great black and whites have a full complement of details throughout the dynamic range. Even the second black and white could stand some expansion.

Best Regards,

Sacha Griffin

Southern Digital Solutions LLC - Atlanta, Georgia

http://www.facebook.com/SeeIt360

Office: 404-551-4275

From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Fink
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:55 PM
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PanoToolsNG] OT - Different use for SNS HDR

Sacha, on reflection I hope my reply didn't come across as curt. I appreciate you taking the time for constructive criticism.

Mark

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From: Sacha Griffin <sachagriffin@...>
To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Feb 24, 2013 00:23:35 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: [PanoToolsNG] OT - Different use for SNS HDR

Image 2 is far superior.

Image 1 has so much detail and dynamic range lost it looks like it could have been done with iphone5 and processed with something.

The image composition itself does not lend itself well towards black and white. Too much compositional focus is lost.

My two cents.

SNS is ok for multi-exposures.. for single exposures I have yet to see an example that isn’t better straight out of the raw converter.

Best Regards,

Sacha Griffin

Southern Digital Solutions LLC - Atlanta, Georgia

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Have a look at two versions of a B&W conversion I did here:

Image #2 is what I got out of Lightroom. Image #1 is after running it through SNS HDR. Image #3 is the color original that I got from three exposures blended in SNS HDR.

Mark

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From: Roger D Williams <roger@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:53 am
Subject: Re: OT - Different use for SNS HDR

roger_d_will...

Mark,

I am not sure I am seeing these photos at their best, as I view Google+ on my iPad and I think the quality of images is usually seriously degraded... one of the reasons I no longer bother with G+ unless someone posts an interesting link, like yours. From what I can see I would tend to agree with Sacha.

I am a great fan of SNS-HDR and like you I am pleased at what it can do with single shots, particularly on my Pentax cameras, with their splendidly low noise in shadow areas. It allows me to bring up shadow detail and produce final images that look natural but still cover most of the dynamic range visible to the naked eye. I know that isn't physically possible but I'm creating a fairly satisfactory illusion!

These days I am still taking three exposures (two stops apart) for HDR but increasingly find that SNS-HDR does all I need on just one of the three. I'm looking forward to improved de-ghosting and the promised addition of CA removal. If those come through, the program will make me far less dependent on DXO and PS CS6!

Roger W

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:00 AM, "Mark D. Fink" <markdfink@...> wrote:

I’ve been playing around with SNS HDR recently on single images, not adding multiple exposures, and I really like some of the effects that I’m getting. It’s not designed for this, but think of it as an added bonus.

Have a look at two versions of a B&W conversion I did here:

https://plus.google.com/#photos/111468463289492526581/albums/5848258688934368465

Image #2 is what I got out of Lightroom. Image #1 is after running it through SNS HDR. Image #3 is the color original that I got from three exposures blended in SNS HDR.

Mark

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From: "Ormar" <rmrtmm@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:12 am
Subject: Re: OT - Different use for SNS HDR

rmrtmm

Real crossmedia :)
To see images from Yahoo list, I must make account on G+ ?



--- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Mark D. Fink" <markdfink@...> wrote:
>
> I've been playing around with SNS HDR recently on single images, not adding
> multiple exposures, and I really like some of the effects that I'm getting.
> It's not designed for this, but think of it as an added bonus.
>
>
>
> Have a look at two versions of a B&W conversion I did here:
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> https://plus.google.com/#photos/111468463289492526581/albums/584825868893436
> 8465
>
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> Image #2 is what I got out of Lightroom. Image #1 is after running it
> through SNS HDR. Image #3 is the color original that I got from three
> exposures blended in SNS HDR.
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>
>
> Mark
>

#56306

From: SKAL <sir_kalot@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:07 am
Subject: Re: 320

sir_kalot

Il 22/02/2013 11:20, panokaemena@... ha scritto:
> The pole has a hight of 177m http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Tower
>
>

I was not talking about the tower itself, but the pole where you
installed the panohead ... :)

SKAL

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From: Erik Krause <erik.krause@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: OT - Different use for SNS HDR

ekrause2003

Am 24.02.2013 01:00, schrieb Mark D. Fink:
> Image #2 is what I got out of Lightroom. Image #1 is after running it
> through SNS HDR. Image #3 is the color original that I got from three
> exposures blended in SNS HDR.

I like the lightroom version most. The color version would be quite
nice, but the white balance is too warmish. It suggests evening sun
while the shadows show it has been taken midday. In the SNS b/w the
image doesn't benefit from the hard contrast IMHO. However, the
technique is worth to remember, since other subjects might well improve.

Did you intentionally show the images on g+ such that non-members can't
see them? You can send attachments with your yahoo group postings. They
should be placed in the photos section at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/photos automatically and a
link should be added to the mail.

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de