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Re: [Precolumbian_Inscriptions] other thoughts

 
 
   this will disturb some members, but i have reread the history within 'oera the linda', and it clearly places the voyage of inka before the trojan war, that cayce gave indirectly as 5500bc.  plus i did much research within the cayce readings on the inca origins, which began with atlanteans about 10,000 bc, joined by the frisian / magyar fleet not long afterwards.   cayce did not state who the other founder was, but in other places he refers to the inca already by the time the atlanteans entered egypt - which was right after 10,000 bc.    this early a date for the inca even surprises me, but from my open-minded research seems to be true.   it does require faith in the validity of cayce and the 'oera the linda book'. 
   apparently, the fleet of inka colonized china subsequent to peru/bolivia, and may have used the central pacific currents to come and go between china and south america.   thus explaining the presence of cabeza near titicaca. 
   by 1500 bc admiral inka was already deified by the frisian / magyar tribes at sumeria, and the spelling corrupted to enki.  for the studious ive included attached exact quotes from my cayce research.    i was surprised to learn that the great atlantean teacher that established the beginning of the inca, also did the same at " luzon ", and ohio [another site for ancient aircraft].   he had the ability to travel and communicate globally, so maybe the phillipines have an undiscovered rich civilization, and he was the source of ancient aircraft knowledge?  if anyone finds satelite or aircraft imaging of luzon's countryside, id be interested in studying it for figures, earthworks, and pyramids. 
 
 
imho
mike
 
 
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   studies and carbon dating show men living in the andes by hunting mastodons and camels by 21,000 bp 
 
 
 
 
regards
mike
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Precolumbian_Inscriptions] other thoughts

 
the last inca :
 
 
this describes life and the economy under the inca
 
 
    in 1781 the last inca was tortured, then drawn and quartered in cuzco.   remote relatives were rounded up, about 90, and sent to prisons in spain, most or all died there. 
   cayce said there are caches of riches, and a golden temple of the sun, lost or hidden in the andes.  he gave few details about location, but stressed it must be one who will serve the native people wisely with the proceeds.  after seeing the artifacts therein, it will be impossible to deny atlantis, he suggests. 
   its confusing for me, because most places he states the atlanteans joined lemurians around in 10,000bc [i read quechua joined aymara] and established what would become the inca empire after the arrival of another people, i understand was the fleet of admiral inka, of frisian, finns and hungarians, containing the eastern magyar.   we dont have a firm fix on the date.   nef-tunis going to be a mercenary for egypt, may not be the invasion of the sea people, or the hyksos, of the two dates of 1550bc? to 1250bc?   this fleet arrival by nef-tunis could have been 3100bc or before.   
 
 
" The second legend is known as that of the " Ayar Brothers" and indicates that from three windows in the Tamput'oqo Mountain in Pakariqtanpu about 25 kms. (15.5 miles) south of Qosqo came out four brothers. They were Ayar Manko (Manko Qhapaq), Ayar Kachi, Ayar Auka and Ayar Uchu; every one along with his wife. They went towards the Wanakauri Mountain and then to Qosqo where just the women and Manko Qhapaq arrived founding the city in the name of Teqsi Wiraqocha and the Sun."
 
our magyar?
 
 
 
mike
 
 


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CAYCE ON THE FRISIANS AND INCA


1468-6

8. But, a description of the entity's experience there: We find
that the entity was of a peoples who were drawn to the ideas
and ideals prompted from the great Odin, who brought a
message as to the relationships of individuals with the First
Cause, by the unusual inclinations or tendencies which
bespoke those influences termed in the present as the
supernatural, the supernormal, - not only because of the
changing in the influences of the sun's activity upon the
material blessings or material supplies and surroundings, but
because of the purposes of individuals in their relationships
to that portion of the then known world.

9. Know that these were expressions of that which is divine in
the development of man's relationships one to another.


3479-2

17. Before that the entity was in the Norse land during those
periods of reconstruction through the activities following
the Norse invasions of Holland, Germany and those areas.

18. The entity then was in the position of being the companion of
that entity chosen as leader of those peoples - Olson Odin.

19. The entity then was in the name Younda set those examples for
the peoples of the land as to home building as to the ways
in which those in authority or as heads of houses were to be
treated or controlled.

20. Thus we find the entity oft has ideas of its own as to whose
head should be banged and whose should be sat upon by word
or deed! These are well in their place but are not always
creative.

21. Hence keep to an ideal.



INCA TREASURE

1637-2
1. GC: You will have before you the enquiring mind and
development of [1637], ..., N.Y.C., and his desire for
knowledge respecting Inca treasure. Also the outline which
has been furnished him, a copy of which I hold in my hand.
Considering all the circumstances involved in such, give
him such advice and counsel as will be a development for him
at this time; answering the specific questions which may be
asked.

2. EC: We have the body, the enquiring mind, [1637].

3. In giving advice or counsel in these particular experiences
of this entity, much of that which forms the background of
the entity in its experiences through the earth should be
taken into consideration, - as well as that desire toward
the peoples of that vicinity or sphere of activity, and as
to what might be accomplished.

4. That there is within the experience of the entity, [1637],
the knowledge and experience latent yet very positive and
very concrete, is indicated not only by the innate interest
felt - and indicated - but in the abilities of the entity
to arouse in the consciousness of those peoples, in their
environment, a desire, a call for leadership, in such an
one as the entity.

5. Then as to manners and means or ways, and whyfores:

6. As we find, the only manner in which CONSISTENCY and
persistency may be given in doing that as would enable the
entity not only through its own inner self but through the
helps as may be obtained in the very environs in which this
treasure may be sought, appears to be:

7. The entity prepare himself, first, as a material channel
through which aid may be given to those peoples of the land
and of those environs; in ministering to the physical needs
of the individuals, of the natives and the peoples of the
environ.

1637-2 Page 2

8. Then, too, give self in such a service; not with the
singleness of purpose that the treasure is to be located AND
that it is to be used by self in the exploiting of an ideal
or of any people, - other than they to whom it rightfully
belongs - and in making their material lot easier.

9. And if this is then done, and some ten to fifteen years of
service spent by the entity in the environ, there may be not
only gained the location and the treasures of the storehouse
of the entity's own self and peoples, but a training, an
activity that will enable the entity to be of a greater
service to his fellow men of EVERY land. Not only in the
manner of administering to their physical needs, their bodily
wants as to physical healing, but as to much of that which is
as a lost civilization, - wherein there was the use of much
of the knowledge which WAS a part of the ancestors of this
ancient peoples.

10. To attempt to give or to make only an expedition would
not only be foolhardy but contrary to the real, the deep
convictions within the heart and soul of the entity itself;
and thus the entity becoming as it were untrue to its own
conviction.

11. Then, to prepare self, and to live among and with and for
them, enabling them to meet their own problems; not only
in the political and in the general social conditions which
exist among them, but in enabling them to catch a vision
also of that which is the answer in the heart of each Inca -
that in Him, the Son, is indeed the great Inca! This is the
manner, as we find.

12. Ready for questions.

13. (Q) Correct inaccuracies in present guide [See 1637-2, Par.
B2], which I hold in my hand.
(A) Answering such questions would be, as we have indicated,
only trespassing - unless the activities, the desires are
according to that which prompts the entity to seek to aid
and help this people.

14. (Q) Give latitude and longitude of object of quest.
(A) This is indicated by rather the very country, the very
lands of this strange yet very sincere peoples; rather than
the location of either the SOURCES of supply or that which
was and is part of cache.

15. (Q) What is total value?
(A) What is the value of a soul? Then multiply that by
the many that may be aided by such a service! Enter not, my
son, lest thou indeed desire to again lead thy people, thy
brethren, to a greater concept of a living God!

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16. We are through for the present.


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28. Before that the entity was in the Atlantean land when there
were those periods of the last upheavals, or the
disappearance of the isles of Poseidia.

29. The entity was among those groups that went into what later
became known as the Inca. For the entity then was in the
line of the house of Inca, and was the mother of an Inca in
the Peruvian land as called in the present.

30. The name then was Secunduca.

31. As to the abilities of the entity, then:

32. Learn, first, thyself. Apply thyself in Creative forces; in
writing, in ministering to the needs of all peoples; as a
speaker, as a writer, the entity may find the greater outlet
for its abilities in the present.

33. Know thyself and in what ye believe. Seek the spirit, seek
the purpose, if the body would be expressive.



427-3

17. In the one before this we find in the land of the Ohlms*
[Aymaras?]. The entity [was] among those that warred against
the invaders from over the seas, and the entity gained and
lost through that experience. GAINING in giving service to
the ones about same. Losing in the applying of vengeance to
those that were taken captive. In the urge is seen that -
while not holding malice, yet the tinge of vengeance often
appears, and the love of the seeing suffering, in a manner,
for those who err.

18. In the one before this we find in that land known as the


* [GD's note: Ohlms, Ohum, Ohms, Uhum, Ohm, Ohlm - all these
spellings were used in the early readings, in fact in all the
readings, for a period which apparently coincided with
Atlantis and preceded the Inca. We finally came to believe
that the period was that of the Aymaras, about which people
little is known except that it [the period] preceded the Inca
civilization.]

427-3 Page 4

Atlantean. The entity [was] among those of the teachers who
brought much to the peoples of that period, gaining
throughout that experience in the earth's plane, and in the
name Azuhi.

19. In the abilities of the entity there is seen, through the
comparison of that given and experienced, and as latent in
the urges of the entity desiring of self in service or
ministry to others - through what channel shall same be
exercised? In that of the minister, through the teachings of
Him that gave, "Come unto me and I will give thee rest," for
in Him is the way and the light. Seek that way while it may
be found, for unto Him that knocketh shall it be opened.
Keep thy paths straight, and thy trust in Him alone - for
"though all others forsake thee, yet I will bear thee up."

20. As has been seen and given, the life is the reflection of
that manifestation in Him, as is seen through the experiences
of self as applied to the conditions through which one passes
in that merited by the action in self. Keep the heart clean.
Let thine heart AND MIND ever be in the Christ.

21. We are through for the present.



1286-1

27. Before that we find the entity was in the land of the present
nativity, during those periods when there were the spreadings
of those teachings that had come from the lands from which
those peoples came that were known as the Lost Tribes, as
well as from Atlantis, Yucatan, the Inca, and the land of On
[?]. [Og?]

28. They were portions of the entity's people then, in that part
of the land now known as the central portion of Ohio, during
the early portion of the Mound Builders.

1286-1 Page 5

29. There the entity was a priestess of those peoples that were
a part of the experiences there of those peoples. For while
confusions arose from the tenets of the Hebraic as well as
the Atlantean, as well as the Inca, these became centralized
or localized in the expressions of those peoples and those
groups in that particular period of their activity.

30. Yet the greater blessings that the entity in its activity
rendered the people in that experience were in the building
of individual homes.

31. And this will become a part of the entity's experience in
this sojourn. For within the next two and a half to three
years there should come into the experience that association,
the relations with one who was as a helpmeet to the entity
during that sojourn.

32. For, as has been indicated from the innate experience as well
as from the longings within, a home - HOME - with all its
deeper, inner meanings, is a portion of the entity's desire;
to know, to experience, to have the "feel" of, to have the
surroundings of that implied by the word HOME! Is it any
wonder then that in all of thy meditation, Ohm - O-h-m-mmmmm
has ever been, is ever a portion of that which raises self
to the highest influence and the highest vibrations
throughout its whole being that may be experienced by the
entity?

33. Thus does it behoove the entity to find in those activities
that which will bring about in the experience that which will
make HOME - HOME - as a REALITY; close to nature. Not in the
strife and turmoil, not in cities, not where there are the
surroundings of those forces that bespeak of the commercial
life, but that as of NATURE! That as was given by the entity
then as the priestess of those peoples, that made for the
dedicating of their lives, that which would bring into the
experience of each soul its relationships to NATURE as it
manifests itself in its defiance of, in its laws with, in
its beauties of, in its troubles with humankind; as it meets
same in the rain, the sun, the storm, the dew, the beauty
of the sun and the moon and all the glories of nature itself
become rather as the song of the entity in its experience;
when the sons of God with the voices of the winds sang
together of the heralding of the glory of the noonday to the
sons of God! That became as the chant of the entity in that
experience, in the name Tulu.

34. In the application of same, much might be said in these
directions. For these become so much a portion of the
entity; and in those closer relationships with nature,
with heaven, with the earth, with all the toils and troubles
of same, with all the activities that come with same may be
found the greater peace and harmony.

1286-1 Page 6

35. For what becometh to this soul that seeks so beautiful and
joyous as the music in the rain or in the babbling brook or
in the moonlight or in the noonday sun or in the beauty of
the rose or the smile of the child! These become as those
that give to the entity the greater expressions of the love
of a merciful heavenly Father. For they bespeak of the
promise of the rest of a home, of an ohm [?] with Him.


1895-1

36. Before that we find the entity was in the land now known as
the Inca or Peruvian or Ecuador land, during those periods
when the people from On (?) [Aymaras] and Og were making
for so many changes, - by the disturbing forces which
arose from individuals who came into the land from the
Atlantean land, as well as those who were to journey for
the establishing of activities in what is now the Yucatan
land.

37. The entity then was a princess, and a daughter of one of the
rulers associated with the one [470] who with so many wives
(of which the entity was one) made for both good and bad.

38. Hence the entity was given to the keeping in line with
the activities of those who were to establish new outlying
districts. Hence the beauty of the entity, as well as its
associations of power and strength, made for those activities
in the Yucatan land - with those of the Atlanteans as well as
those from the land of Og and On - that brought about a great
advancement.

39. Through those experiences the entity advanced far because of
its abilities in judgement as drawn from nature, as well as
from the signs of the heavens and those activities that same
bear upon the influencing of man, - as well as the seasons
and the crops and the like, that were a part of the
dependence of each people during those periods.

40. The entity gained throughout that experience, yet - with the
regenerating, or the degrading as it became later, to those
sacrifices that took hold of the offering of bodily forces,
- these became a torment.

41. Hence in the present, we find a great deal of those
influences and forces for good, - that wherein there are the
needs for, or even the activities where there is individual
persecution, these become as things that arouse the entity
to its ire in the present experience.

42. As to the abilities of the entity in the present, then, and
that to which it may attain:

43. As indicated, first know self and what is thy ideal.

44. The study of the occult or mystic will bring great harmony.

45. The abilities as a leader, a lecturer, a writer, are innate;
and if the entity will give self to the expression of much
that arises from the latent influences and powers, great may
be the joys, - and also the help and aid that may come to
others.

1895-1 Page 6

46. Ready for questions.

47. (Q) Have I had associations in previous lives with my
husband, [...]?
(A) In the experience just before this, quite closely
associated, - for it might be termed that they were in
business together; yet he being as it were a partner of
the entity's THEN husband.

48. (Q) With my friend, [...]?
(A) This we find as from afar, rather than a close
association; though making for the desire for a close
activity in the present; and it was during an experience
not given here, also a part of the Persian experience.

49. (Q) With my son, [...]?
(A) Both in the Dearborn and in the Atlantean or Yucatan
or Aryan.

50. (Q) With my daughter, [...]?
(A) This as we find was during the first MATERIAL
association.

51. (Q) With my daughter, [...]?
(A) This as we find was a very close association in the
Dearborn and in the Persian experience, as well as being
the DAUGHTER in the Yucatan experience - FROM the Inca land.



2281-1

36. Before that the entity was in the land of the present
nativity, during those ages when there were those of the Inca
land journeying to the lands of the entity's present
nativity.

37. There the entity found the activities in associations with
the sacredness of the Inca and its teachings; its
considerations of man in all of the relationships with man's
material and mental endeavors; and yet the place of all the
metals, the foods, the activities that are a portion of man's
evolution in the appreciation of the gifts from the Creative
Forces.

38. For, the entity then was among the priestesses of the Incas,
- in the name Telequal. In the experience the entity gained,
for it was as a messenger of love to the peoples in the many
stages and developments of the peoples of that land.

39. Hence in the present the entity bears to its own people a
station, a relationship to those of many lands, to people of
many climes, as to be a helpful influence in the affairs of
many.

2281-1 Page 6

40. Thus again we find the opportunities that become a part of
the entity's experience. Thus may the entity find in its
activities in this material plane that in acting in the
capacity of the representative of many peoples, and the needs
of many peoples in the various lands and their relationships
with others, the entity may meet not only the needs of many
in this changing world but may stand as an emblem of that
which is good and holy, that partakes of the Creative
Influences which are a part of the experience of those who
love the ways of the Lord.

41. Then, as an emissary of a land, or of many varied lands, the
entity may find an outlet for its activities, - in that close
akin to the diplomatic activities and relationships of lands
one to another.



2460-1

36. Before that the entity was in the Peruvian land, as now
called, where there were those activities that followed the
disturbances from the destruction of the Atlantean land.

37. The entity was among those very close to the Inca that ruled
during that experience.

2460-1 Page 5

38. Thus we find the desires latent, that are expressed in the
spiritual emotions as a worshiper of those things just above
the entity - in mind, in person, in position, in problems.
For, the entity led those who prepared the soil for providing
the provisions, and also the mining and mineral interests of
the land, as well as the building and constructive forces.

39. For, the entity then was one upon whom the Inca depended for
the relationships with the masses of the peoples.

40. The name then was Omhar.

41. Before that the entity was active when there were those first
separations of the sons of those who were saved at the
periods when the ark settled upon Ararat, and when the
divisions arose just before the activities in the tower of
Babel.

42. We find the entity attempted to create the better
relationships with the various groups of individuals, and
those who sought to make for disturbances that brought
dissensions among the sons of Noah. For, the entity
attempted to carry on those tenets and conditions which had
been presented by his grandfather Noah in that period.

43. Yet the entity was overridden by those of power, might and
position.

44. Hence latently, though he may find expression in over-
activity, we find that the entity feels himself a little bit
beneath that he attempts to gain.

45. The name then was Jeurepth.



364-4

2. EC: Yes, we have the subject here, The Lost Continent of
Atlantis.

3. As the peoples were a peaceful peoples, their developments
took on rather that form - with the developing into the
physical material bodies - of the fast development, or to
the using of the elements about them to their own use;
recognizing themselves to be a part OF that about them.
Hence, as to the supplying of that as necessary to sustain
physical life as known today, in apparel, or supplying of the
bodily needs, these were supplied through the natural
elements; and the DEVELOPMENTS came rather in the forms -
as would be termed in the PRESENT day - of preparing for
those things that would pertain to what would be termed the
aerial age, or the electrical age, and supplying then the
modes and manners of transposition of those materials about
same that did not pertain to themselves bodily; for of
themselves was transposed, rather by that ability lying
within each to be transposed in thought as in body.

4. In these things, then, did Amilius [?] see the beginning of,
and the abilities of, those of his own age, era, or period,
not only able to build that as able to transpose or build up
the elements about them but to transpose them bodily from
one portion of the universe to the other, THROUGH the uses
of not only those RECENTLY re-discovered gases, and those
of the electrical and aeriatic formations - in the breaking
up of the atomic forces to produce impelling force to those
means and modes of transposition, or of travel, or of lifting
large weights, or of changing the faces or forces of nature
itself, but with these transpositions, with these changes
that came in as personalities, we find these as the Sons of
the Creative Force as manifest in their experience looking
upon those changed forms, or the daughters of men, and there
crept in those pollutions, of polluting themselves with

364-4 Page 2

those mixtures that brought contempt, hatred, bloodshed, and
those that build for desires of self WITHOUT respects of
OTHERS' freedom, others' wishes - and there began, then, in
the latter portion of this period of development, that that
brought about those of dissenting and divisions among the
peoples in the lands. With the attempts of those still in
power, through those lineages of the pure, that had kept
themselves intact as of the abilities of forces as were
manifest IN their activities, these BUILDED rather those
things that ATTEMPTED to draw BACK those peoples; through
first the various changes or seasons that came about, and
in the latter portion of the experience of Amilius [?] was
the first establishing of the altars upon which the
sacrifices of the field and the forest, and those that were
of that that SATISFIED the desires of the physical body,
were builded.

5. Then, with the coming in or the raising up of Esai [?], with
the change that had come about, began in that period when
there were the invasions of this continent by those of the
animal kingdoms, that brought about that meeting of the
nations of the globe to PREPARE a way and manner of disposing
of, else they be disposed of themselves by these forces.
With this coming in, there came then the first of the
destructive forces as could be set and then be meted out in
its force or power. Hence that as is termed, or its first
beginning of, EXPLOSIVES that might be carried about, came
with this reign, or this period, when MAN - or MEN, then -
began to cope with those of the beast form that OVERRAN the
earth in many places. Then, with these destructive forces,
we find the first turning of the altar fires into that of
sacrifice of those that were taken in the various ways, and
human sacrifice began. With this also came the first egress
of peoples to that of the Pyrenees first, OF which later we
find that peoples who enter into the black or the mixed
peoples, in what later became the Egyptian dynasty. We also
find that entering into Og, or those peoples that later
became the beginning of the Inca, or Ohum [Aymara'?], that
builded the walls across the mountains in this period,
through those same usages of that as had been taken on by
those peoples; and with the same, those that made for that
in the other land, became first those of the mound dwellers,
or peoples in that land. With the continued disregard of
those that were keeping the pure race and the pure peoples,
of those that were to bring all these laws as applicable to
the Sons of God, man brought in the destructive forces as
used for the peoples that were to be the rule, that combined
with those natural resources of the gases, of the electrical
forces, made in nature and natural form the first of the
eruptions that awoke from the depth of the slow cooling
earth, and that portion now near what would be termed the
Sargasso Sea first went into the depths. With this there
again came that egress of peoples that aided, or attempted

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to assume control, yet carrying with them ALL those forms of
Amilius [?] that he gained through that as for signs, for
seasons, for days, for years. Hence we find in those various
portions of the world even in the present day, some form of
that as WAS presented by those peoples in THAT great
DEVELOPMENT in this, the Eden of the world.

6. In the latter portion of same we find as CITIES were builded
more and more rare became those abilities to call upon rather
the forces in nature to supply the needs for those of bodily
adornment, or those of the needs to supply the replenishing
of the wasting away of the physical being; or hunger arose,
and with the determinations to set again in motion, we find
there - then Ani [?] [See the name ANI mentioned on pp. 6,
57, 187 and 324 of the book, MYTHS & LEGENDS OF ANCIENT
EGYPT, by Lewis Spence.] [GD's note: I put a question mark
because I didn't know whether this was the correct spelling
or not.], in those latter periods, ten thousand seven hundred
(10,700) years before the Prince of Peace came - again was
the bringing into forces that to TEMPT, as it were, nature
- in its storehouse - of replenishing the things - that of
the WASTING away in the mountains, then into the valleys,
then into the sea itself, and the fast disintegration of the
lands, as well as of the peoples - save those that had
escaped into those distant lands.

7. How, then, may this be applicable to our present day
understanding? As we see the effects as builded in that
about the sacred fires, as through those of Hermes, those of
Arart, those of the Aztec, those of Ohum [Aymara'?], each in
their respective sphere CARRYING some portion of these
blessings - when they are kept in accord and PURE with those
through which the channels of the blessings, of the Creative
Forces, may manifest. So, we find, when we apply the lessons
in the day - would ye be true, keep that EVERY WHIT thou
KNOWEST to do within thine own heart! Knowing, as ye USE
that as is KNOWN, there is given the more and more light to
know from whence ye came and whither ye go!

8. Ready for questions.

9. (Q) Please give a description of the earth's surface as it
existed at the time of Atlantis' highest civilization, using
the names of continents, oceans and sections of same as we
know them today?
(A) As to the highest point of civilization, this would
first have to be determined according to the standard as to
which it would be judged - as to whether the highest point
was when Amilius [?] ruled with those understandings, as the
one that understood the variations, or whether they became
man made, would depend upon whether we are viewing from a
spiritual standpoint or upon that as a purely material or
commercial standpoint; for the variations, as we find, extend

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over a period of some two hundred thousand years (200,000) -
that is, as light years - as known in the present - and that
there were MANY changes in the surface of what is now called
the earth. In the first, or greater portion, we find that
NOW known as the southern portions of South America and the
Arctic or North Arctic regions, while those in what is NOW
as Siberia - or that as of Hudson Bay - was rather in that
region of the tropics, or that position now occupied by near
what would be as the same LINE would run, of the southern
Pacific, or central Pacific regions - and about the same way.
Then we find, with this change that came first in that
portion, when the first of those peoples used that as
prepared FOR the changes in the earth, we stood near the same
position as the earth occupies in the present - as to
Capricorn, or the equator, or the poles. Then, with that
portion, THEN the South Pacific, or Lemuria [?], began its
disappearance - even before Atlantis, for the changes were
brought about in the latter portion of that period, or what
would be termed ten thousand seven hundred (10,700) light
years, or earth years, or present setting of those, as set by
Amilius [?] - or Adam.

10. We are through for the present.


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37. Before that we find the entity was in what is now known as or
called the Egyptian land, during those periods when many of
those from the Atlantean land came to the Egyptian land.

38. It was when there were turmoils and strifes among the
natives, and when there were the beginnings of the
reconstruction later and the aiding of those that were
making for the rejuvenating and correlating of the tenets
from India, Mongolia, the Inca, the Iodians (?), even from
the northern lands - or Auk (?).

39. The entity then was of the Atlantean peoples that rose by the
aid as brought by the leaders of the Atlanteans, in
coordinating with the Priest of Egypt. And the entity,
with the abilities in its speech with many, made for the
correlating of those tenets in many lands for the BEAUTIFUL
portions of their temple service, their political
activities, and the relationships of same to those in the
varied lands.

40. The name was first Aslelea; when beginning in the Egyptian
activities, with the travels throughout the many portions of
the lands, it was then changed to Hat-She-Poi; meaning, 'She
that bound those together for oneness of activity.'


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28. Before that we find the entity was in the land now known as
the Atlantean, when there were the disturbances upon which
those divisions arose.

29. The entity then took the part of those who later became the
heads of those that warred against those of the Law of One,
and then in the name of Sululon - as would be termed in the
present.

30. In those experiences the entity made for destructive forces
in the early experiences, yet with those activities that
brought about the union in body with one of the daughters
of the Law of One, the entity then become to each group as

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one set apart. For the teachers of the Law of One were
afraid of the ability, while those that were of the sons of
Belial were afraid of the entity becoming what would be
termed in the present as a traitor.

31. Hence throughout those periods the entity became then THAT
ONE that led the first establishing of the activity in the
varied lands that came to be known as later the Mayan, the
Yucatan, the Inca, the Peruvian - and LATER the Mound
Builders in the northern portions of the entity's present
sojourn. [Ohio?]

32. Not that the entity remained there, but established those
activities which has become a part of the entity by those
divisions.

33. Hence we find in these three expeditions or experiences,
while the principles are the same, the expressions of same
are in varying MANNERS of manifestation, coming from the
one MENTAL or PHYSICAL BEING'S mind - for a development.
Or as called by many, as may be in the present, a meddler
with things that to many are dangerous.


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44. Before that we find the entity was in the Atlantean land,
during those periods when there were the beginnings of the
exodus owing to the destructive forces that had been begun by
the sons of Belial.

45. The entity was among the Princes of the land that made for
the separating of those influences wherein there might be
established the journeyings to other lands, with the keepings
of records, with the permanent establishments of activities
that have become a part of that ye call civilization in the
present time.

46. Hence we find the entity making for the establishments in the
Yucatan, in the Luzon, in what became the Inca, in the North
American land, and in what later became the land of the Mound
Builders in Ohio; also the establishments of those activities
in the upper portion of what is now the eastern portion of
the land.

47. The entity then was not only one skilled in aircraft and in
watercraft, as an aviator and a navigator, but made great
strides in keeping in touch with other lands through the
forces of nature in the experience.

48. Hence those things of nature that have to do with
communications become a part of the entity's experience.

49. The imaginations of tales as of travel, the activities that
have to do with strange lands, strange people, strange
customs, become as a portion of the innate forces.

50. And from those very influences may there arise later in this
experience those activities that may bring again renown to
the entity in this experience.

51. Then the name was Ex-Cex.



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20. Before this (among those appearances that have an influence
in the present) we find the entity was in the land of its
present nativity, in what is now known as the southernmost
portion - or in Florida; during those periods when there
were those settlings from the Yucatan, from the lands of On
(?) or the Inca, from the Norse land, when there were the
beginners of the Mound Builders and those that gathered upon
what is now the east portion of Alabama and Florida - though
it was quite different then in its structure, outwardly.

21. The entity's sojourns then were with those of a race of
unusual height, unusual proportions to what might be termed
in the present. For they were then the lords of the land,
as would be termed, that issued to the other lands, the other
environs about same, the instructions for their moral, their
religious, their penal codes.

22. Then the entity was among those that were the more lenient
in that lording; for the entity sought rather to bring that
activity, that development where all under the Lord - as law
- are ONE.

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23. Hence the experiences were made to become rather severe,
rather strained in those activities. For there were the
harkenings to those periods that stand first in the
experience of the entity in the present, as well as those
sojourns in Egypt and Atlantis and those activities that
brought the lack of consideration of those that were - STILL
in THOSE experiences in Egypt and Atlantis - with their
beast appendages, their hindrances; which made for that
which has been and is so much a part of the animal, that has
signified and does signify the very natures of same.

24. Those the entity abhorred, as in the present - yet so little
apparently gained, yet how great in the soul's developments
itself!

25. The name then was what would be termed in the present Alta,
that meant a NEW life!

26. In the application of that experience in the present sojourn,
the entity will find its desire to bring the greater
consciousness of the healing forces within the body-mind
and consciousness of individuals to aid themselves. And
from the divine within rather than from the outer forces;
while the outer forces are divine when and if they are
applied with the glory to the Creator rather than to the
self-knowledge of man!



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23. Before that we find the entity was in the land now known
as the Yucatan or Central America, when there were those
activities by those peoples who came from the Inca or the
land of Og and the Atlantean land; when there were the
attempts to reestablish those activities of not only the
older portions of the Atlantean civilization but also of
those who sojourned in that particular experience.

24. The entity was raised to that one in authority as an ACTIVE
priest, furnishing the activities in the temples (that are
beginning to be uncovered in the present).

25. From those very associations we find arising in the present
those peculiar interests the entity has had in the occult
and the mysterious and the mysteries of life.

26. These become an innate desire. Hence if these are made to
become in all experiences not as a mere gratification of
pleasure but such as to bring hope and joy and peace into
the experiences of others, these may be turned into channels
in which they become as stepping-stones for greater
understanding, greater material as well as mental successes.

27. For success, remember, ever is a mental state of any
individual, and depends upon the ideal that is set -
or the standard of excellency.

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28. In the experience then the entity was known as Guloupo; and
the entity gained and lost, gained and lost - gained because
of those activities in which hope was brought into the
experience - lost because in the latter portion the
activities were turned into those for self-indulgences
and self-glorification, and brought distresses into the
experiences of many.

29. Beware that a worse fate does not befall thee in the present,
then, by making applications of self in that as will become
a hopeful experience in the lives of those who are dependent
upon the entity not only for the material things but for the
ability of the entity to create hope within the mental self
- which is in every entity and in every soul (the Mind) the
Builder.

30. And as the entity's abilities are in those activities
that make for concentrating of thought, let these be of
constructive natures.


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17. Then, we find the entity was in the Egyptian land when there
were those disturbing factors owing to the activities and
uprisings of the Natives, the disturbing forces as created
by the activities of the King when changes were made - or
the pitting of one against the other of the Natives that had
arisen and cried for justice and mercy.

18. The entity then was the mother of that Native [See 900-275]
that rose as one to be pitted against the Younger King; in
the name then - as would be determined or called in the
present - She-Telle.

19. In the experience the entity gained. For only in the latter
portion did the entity become able to aid in making it
possible for the King (the Older King) to bring about a
harmonious gathering over and above the activities of the
son and those that were in charge of the buildings and the
activities that made for the material progresses during that
portion of the experience.

20. That was when there were the settlements and the Priest had
become again active in giving the service or principles to
not only the Natives but in assisting to bring a greater
understanding to all the nations roundabout; when there
had been the call for the activities from the teachings of
Saneid, from the Pyrenees, from the Mongoloid, from what is
now known as Indo-China, the Inca, those peoples that were
left of the Atlanteans, the Yucatan, and what is now the
American land.

21. Thus the entity will find in the present the interest in
building in the hearts of the young, through those activities
that may bring hope and those activities of the correct
directing that were a part of the activities during that
particular period; by those activities of what would be
called the school, the medicine, the archaeological, the
preparations for emissaries, representatives, teachers,
masters.


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23. In the one before this, we find in the days when those
peoples first came from that shore in now the Peruvian
country, to settle the plains of now Southwestern portion
of North America. [Peru: Inca? Yucatan?] The entity then
among those who were the leaders in this journey for the
freedom of the peoples. Hence the entity finds the love of
freedom a paramount condition within the inner self, with
the willful desire of every entity to express self according
to dictates of own self.

24. As to that which the entity may attain in the present earth's
plane, as seen, then, necessary, in the physical labors of
entity, to do or accomplish much in the present year, would
the entity reach anywhere near the goal as set for self, and
the establishing of any class, kind, character, of business
relation, for self, as leader, head, or guide, this should
be done WITHIN the present year; else we would find those
influences in the earth's plane at that position of
"at-variance" to the best interests in every way.

25. Keeping first that the laws of Him, who gives life abundantly
unto all men, should be the first and foremost expression of
self in every manner.

26. Do that.

27. We are through for the present.



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40. Before that the entity was in the Inca or Peruvian land, when
there had been the first of the upheavals in the Atlantean
land, and the peoples that journeyed to that portion setting
up those activities.

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41. Hence the entity - as a priestess there - loves ceremony, and
such activities that indicate a preparation through routine
or rote.

42. There the entity held high those purposes of the Law of One.

43. The name then was Ip-Bek.



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34. Before that the entity was in the Inca land, when the peoples
were seeking to establish the activities which had been in
the Atlantean land.

35. The entity was in the household then of the Prince of the
Incal land, in the name then Tujar. The entity applied

2988-2 Page 5

self to the edifying of the young, in those activities
that today would be termed the building of homes, basket
weaving, bookmaking, rug designing; and the patterns of
those things for conveniences in the home, the abilities
to attend to the weak and disabled, were a part of the
entity's experience through that sojourn.

36. And these become a part of the entity's consciousness in the
present; song making, especially the pastoral songs, as well
as the paintings and the beauty of such. But ever to the
entity there must be either the mountain or the sea in the
viewing of same.



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29. Before that the entity was in the Peruvian land. For, with
the first upheavals in Atlantis, the entity was among those
who journeyed - though young in years - to what later became
the Inca land.

30. All of those things pertaining to mountains, to Atlantean
things, to ceremony, to things that have a basis of gold,
become of interest to the entity.

31. The name through that experience was Caphala, and the entity
was a companion to the leader of those peoples through a
portion of their experience there.


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24. Before that the entity was in the Inca land when there had
been the journeyings of the Atlantean peoples for setting up
what later came to be known as the Incal activities.

25. There the entity was a companion of the one that acted in the
capacity of a leader in setting up the customs, rituals and
activities in that land following the destruction of
Atlantis.

26. Thus ceremony, routine and such activities are innately a
part of the entity. And at times we find the entity very
active in the minutest detail in trying out experimentations
both mental and physical; thus making of itself, as it were,
an "apt" companion for a student of science in any of its
fields of endeavor.

27. The name then was Esema.

28. Before that the entity lived in the earth during those
periods when the peoples were separated that prepared for the
preserving of the activities in the earth.

29. The entity was the son of Ham (Canaan) that laughed at the
weakness of the grandfather. Thus the entity was one of
those who occupied the ark, or was in the ark during that
period.

30. After the journeys in the ark, the entity set out activities
in definite conditions for the establishing of groups in
various portions of the land.

31. Thus things that have to do with mechanical things are
innately of interest. And the entity gathers those peculiar
things or oddities about itself in one respect or another.


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7. In the one before this, we find in that period when the Arms
[Aymaras? Ohms were?] in that land now known as through
[Peru, though] the entity then [was] among those that ruled
in the land and being subjugated by the Inco [Inca?] [See
4292-1 Reports] that took possession of the land from those
that ruled. The entity then in the name os OO-o-i-u-l [os
OOoiul], and the entity lost through this experience, for in
that of bringing the wreck of the peoples from the desire to
rule brought destructive forces to others and to self. In
the urge seen from this experience the entity finds that
self becomes wandering in body, mind and in desire. In the
abilities and that application in self will be found first
in finding self in that way that will bring to self the
understanding of self's relation to the all-creative energy
and that due to man. In the life there then comes in the

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present experience that which will bring the entity again
into the home ties in the 28th and 9th year.

8. Follow that that may make self one with Him that gave "I
am the way, the life, the light, and no man cometh unto
the Father but by me."

9. We are through.


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17. Before that we find the entity's greater activity was in
the Inca Land. The entity was among those who went from
the Atlantean land to what is the Peruvian or Incal land.

18. By the very ability and prestige the entity brought new life,
new hope, to the people with the journeying from the land
before the upheavals.

19. The entity became the leader for, and was interested in, the
young people. For the young are the hope of the world.

20. And all sorts and forms, then, as in the activities of young
peoples, as scouts, as formation of the 4-H Clubs, all of
these are of interest to the entity.

21. In the name then Schiin.


2903-1
In the one before this, we find in the now Peruvian country, when the peoples
were destroyed in the submerging
of the land. The entity then in that of the next to the ruler in the Ohlm [Ohm?
- Ohum? Aymara?] rule, and in the
name of Ormdi, and the entity then gave much to the peoples, especially to those
who furnished the building of
the lands for the sustenance of the peoples. In that, we find the present urge
from same comes to the entity
through the desire to understand the position from which any group of peoples
desire their cause presented
to others.


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In the one before this we find in the land of now the Peruvian country, in the
second rule of the Ohlms [?]
[Aymaras], and the entity then the ruler in that plane, and giving much of the
earthly splendor to the country,
retarding self in that time through the relations as had with those of the lower
class, or caste, and then we
find the entity in the name of The Great Ohlm [Aymara]. In this, we find in the
present the desire to see
much splendor in others, and in many places, yet shunning those of the opposite
sex in a manner, yet desiring
ever to bask in the better judgment or thought of such people.

845-1
Before that we find the entity was in that known as the Atlantean land, during
those periods when there were the
preparations for those that were of the household of faith, or the Law of One,
when there was seen that there
were to become the destructive influences that must shatter, must destroy the
land, the peoples.
The entity was among those that were to become the emissaries or the sojourners
in what is now the Incal land,
or the Peruvian land. Later from that sojourn the entity came to what is now the
Central American land, aiding
in the establishing of not only the tenets but the manners and the forms of
worship during those sojourns. The
entity was among the princesses of the land, not only of the Atlantean but of
the Ohum [Aymaras] and Og lands -
and later Muri [?] [Lemuria?]. [Mu?]
In the experience the entity gained throughout, in that it adhered to the Law of
One; that there must be the
application within self, the same application to the fellow man - for that which
is the motivative force in each
is of the same source, or one, and brings the ability in associations for the
increase to come from constructive
or the God-forces in the associations.
Then, as to the abilities of the entity in the present and that to which it may
attain, and how:
First, look within self. Know as to what is the motivative influence within self
as to the satisfying of self's own
desires, as to that which would maintain the Law of One, of truth, of self
within self; or is it - the motivative
influence avarice, greed, or that which is of self's own desires? Then know that
the motivative forces and
influences are founded in that set as the Princess of Ohum [Aymaras] and Og, in
the name then Issua; which
brought that which saved the lands during those experiences. They are not
founded in truth unless of that
oneness of purpose. This determined within self, then know that as ye apply that
ye know day by day in thy
activities with thy fellow man these make for contentments in no matter what
state of mind or body self may
be put; for there is that contentment in that the self is a channel of blessings
to someone, not as of self but
through the manifesting of the love of the Creative Forces as expressed in Him -
as thou learned in the Roman
land, as thou knew from thine own personal activity in the Ohum [Aymaras] and Og
land. These activities be
they that make the life worth while; just being gentle even though others are
harsh, just being true even though
others are false, just being patient even though others about thee may rant and
rave. For if thine inner self is
motivated by the spirit of truth and life that GIVES manifestations of life in
the earth, they are of Him. Art thou
on the Lord's side? Then who CAN be against thee?


832-1
Then, in the one before that we find the entity was in that now known as the
Atlantean land, during those
periods when there were the first of those that journeyed from Atlantis through
the first breaking up to the
Incal land, or the sons of Ohum [Aymaras].
The entity then was among those in that particular portion of the experience
that acted rather in the capacity
of the priestess to the sons of Ohum, and to him who rose and fell the entity
became rather the leader;
strengthening during the sojourn of the entity in that experience those that
later came to what is now known
as Yucatan or the Central American land. There the entity journeyed back and
forth with the sons of Zan(?)
and made for the establishing of the material communications that brought
strengthening to the many. And the
entity gained in those experiences.






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before the inca in peru was a people cayce called the ohum or ohlm. im no linguist, so could use some help, but found ohum means grandmother in lenape, spoken...
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What about Elohim? The story goes, that the tribes were to be scattered around the world. I saw a TV program about different religious groups around the...
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Or perhaps Urim and Thummim (Hebrew: Lights & Perfections, used for translating foreign texts, do a phonetic twist of "r" to "l" to get Ulim, and a "th" maybe...
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Here's a link to an overview of the Walam Olum: http://www.usu.edu/anthro/origins_of_writing/walam_olum/ Lyd Paul Troemner <troemner@...> wrote: Or...
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hi lj, all i think they are like angels or spirit authorities. mike ... From: L J To: Precolumbian_Inscriptions@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002...
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i have my doubts on your alternative meanings, but who knows. the walam olum are thought to record 14,000 years of history, including a migration from asia,...
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the last inca : this describes life and the economy under the inca http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1540cieza.html in 1781 the last inca was tortured, then...
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studies and carbon dating show men living in the andes by hunting mastodons and camels by 21,000 bp The Original Peopling of Latin America ...
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this will disturb some members, but i have reread the history within 'oera the linda', and it clearly places the voyage of inka before the trojan war, that...
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from cayce we are given the date of the sinking of poseidonia, the last of atlantis, at 10,700 bc. from 'oera linda book', we are told the fleet of inka...
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