Vince, Mike & all,

Was unable to access the link Mike sent re: the Beverly Stone from
his site, and the only one I am familiar with is the "Mystery Stone"
in Beverly, Kansas, referenced w/photo in this web site:

http://s8int.com/page20.html

Some of you might be interested in another fine link called Ancient
Scripts.com created by a San Francisco software engineer &
engirneering student in San Francisco named Lawrence Lo is:

http://www.ancientscripts.com/email.html

Check out the Sept., 2006 articles at 'Recent News Items' lower right
side of the Home Page. Mr. Lo stated, with a new baby, he hasn't as
much time as before to maintain the site, so I sent a list of web
sites, including this one for him to view posts while holding his
little one. Also told him host Mike White of PreColumbian
Inscriptions probably is doing the same with his new baby while
reading posts from a remote area in China!

My apologies to those who also are members of the other group I sent
a similar post to, but this is the site that was the catalyst to many
of the other groups and people of which I am affiliated.

I believe Wm. Smith also mentioned this on his list, Vince, but I
also don't see Michigan tablets/plates on your list. I was assisting
at aSalt Lake City conference in the late 80's, early 90's when what
remained of the tablets were moved from Michigan/Univ. of Michigan?
to the SLC archives. Not sure if they are readily accessible to the
public or not. As you know, articles about the Michigan tablets and
Burrows Cave have been ongoing by dozens of authors in numerous
magazines such as Ancient American, with significant new information
coming...

Many around the country own Burrows Cave items; increasingly,
serious researchers are bringing parts of their collections to small
group meetings or display tables at conferences such as AAAPF,
Ancient Earthworks Society, Midwestern Epigraphic Society, etc. One
very interesting stone recently brought into public view appears to
be a map, owned by Dr. John White, is on the Home Page of the
official Ancient American Artifact Preservation Foundation/AAAPF
website (click also onto Conferences 2007-for next October near Ft.
Ancient, Ohio. Hope many of you will attend, set up displays, speak,
etc.):

http://www.aaapf.org/scripts/openExtra.asp?extra=1

I sold a glass display case to a professional with a considerable
Burrows Cave artifact collection who has not yet attended AAAPF
conferences nor made public any of his pieces, likely will attend the
Ohio conference.

I am also gently nudging people in the direction of a 2008 or 2009 S.
Illinois conference near Cahokia and St. Louis with Judy Johnson and
the current groups involved with AAAPF/Anc. American--PreColumbian
Inscriptions & Ohio Thor groups, Pam G., Rick & Indiana & Kentucky
people, also, Vince, Steve & the Viking group carrying on Marion
Dahm's work, the Hatcher-Childress/World Explorers Club, etc. The
more people who get involved with Cahokia, the more that
preservationist efforts by people such as Vince, AAAPF, Charles & the
Thor people will be heeded.

Despite ongoing controversy and questionable scientific authenticity
concerning Burrows Cave, the Michigan plates, or perhaps research
many at this site are engaged in...it makes more sense that
artifacts, especially enscripted one, brought forth for public
scrutiny, photographed, thoroughly investigated rather than
destroyed, archived into obscurity, or lost to private collections.
This has been the rule for millinnea of all that doesn't fit the
current social, political, and religious paradigm. Continued
evaluation over time, careful research by professional and
avocational groups working in coalition rather than competition, will
bring those things forward which are authentic and of priceless
knowledge to light.

Re: Burrows Cave, as I understand, a vast number of the rock art
pieces photographed and professionally evaluated remains yet
unpublished. Many of you have the book "Rock Art Pieces from Burrows'
Cave, Volume #I" by Prof. James P. Scherz (UW Madison Dept of Civil &
Envrionmental Engineering) & Russell E. Burrows, published in April,
1992, edited by Buck Trawicky. The book's front cover parenthesizes
an upcoming Book #2 in the continuing saga of Burrows' Cave. Buck T.
and Jim Scherz attended the Ancient Earthworks meeting in the UW
Science building two weeks ago in Madison. They, Mr. Burrows, a few
recently retired writers with more time to devote to diffusionist
research, and many others have expressed interest that the remaining
artifacts and data be put together into a Volume II. And I believe
that will happen in the near future.

I am hoping Mr. Burrows will be made welcome and feel comfortable
coming back actively corresponding at this PreColumbian Inscriptions
messaging site sometime in the future, if it seems as though
amicable, nonhostile progress can be made beyond what has happened
with other associations of people.

As far as I am concerned in the grand scheme of things, regardless
whether May and a team of scientists are able to gain entrance to the
cave (if not doing so already), open minds & hearts, better
interrelations with each other, improved artifact dating methods, the
tests of time and careful scrutiny of those items already circulating
will present a larger picture and what things are of value and what
are not.

Future alliances and conferences of great magnitude in relation to
the Burrows Cave site await. Hopefully those involved in it the past
two+ decades will still be around. Burrows, Scherz, Rydholm, and
others are at least in their 70's...

Fear, ignorance, and all the things within our human nature can botch
up efforts by avocational people who stumble upon artifacts or
ancient sites. Especially decades ago and those working alone.
Now, groups such as this can collectively provide immense support,
resources, and counsel to those who stumble upon finds of enormous
value to society. Only if groups such as PreColumbian Inscriptions
and professional and avocational members within remain amicable,
diplomatic, & non-competitively civil with each other, for the
betterment of whole...

M. Susan English...traveling with you along ancient global waterways

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ancient_waterways_society/
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Precolumbian_Inscriptions@yahoogroups.com, "Vince" <v_barrows@...>
wrote:
>
> Please let me know if anyone has any tablets to add to this
prelimiary
> listing:
>
> Here is the list of all the tablets that I know of:
> Inscribed Native Cahokia Mounds Tablets
> 1. Birdman Tablet
> 2. Kassly- Schaefer tablet
> 3. Quincy Museum Tablet
> 4. Ramey-Peet Tablet
> 5. Perino Tablet
> 6. Becker Tablet
> 7. John Kelly Tablet
> 8. Mary Mathews Fenaia Tablet
> 9. Margie Erb Sandstone Tablet
> 10. Moorehead
> 11. Wilson
> 12. Wendler
> 13. White Sandstone Monks Mound
> 14. 11-5-32 tablets ICT II tablet
> 15. MSA-15A , 96-14-11
> 16. MSA-15A , 93-4-1
> 17.. MSA-15A , 93-4-2
> Illinois Tablets
> 18. Rockford Sun Tablet
> 19. Rockford Inscribed
> 20. Rockford Inscribed II
> 21. Ellington Stone
> Alaska Tablets
> 22. Edward G. Fast Alsaka National Museum of Natural History Tablet
> 23. 19_273 Alaska Baranof Island National Museum of Natural History
> Tablet
> Catlinite Tablets from Iowa/Minnesota
> 24. County Museum Minnesota Tablet
> Adena Tablets
> 25.Allen Tablet
> 26. Berlin Tablet
> 27. Waverly/ Hurst
> 28. Mm6 Wright Tablet
> 29. Cincinnati
> 30. Gaitskill Clay
> 31. Gaitskill Stone
> 32. Keifer
> 33. Lakin A
> 34. Lakin B
> 35. Low 1
> 36. Low 2
> 37. Meigs County
> 38. Wilmington
> 39. Crawford County Ohio New Hampshire Peabody Museum
> Disks:
> 40. Marshall Anderson Rattlesnake Disk
> 70. Angel Mounds: Of 30 sandstone plates found, four have scoring on
> one side and one has a groove
> 92. Cresap Mound:, West Virginia 22 Tablets found, 1 turtle shaped
and
> 1 shaped like a kidney
> 93. Bat Creek, Eastern Tennessee
> 193. Gault Site, Texas over 100 engraved stones from this site
> 194. Graham Cave, MO inscribed tablet
> 200. Grave Creek Mound – Six tablets including one concentric circle
> tablet, 4 plumed serpent tablets, and one inscribed with letters
> 212. Twelve Stiles Site, Iowa Tablets
> 412. 200 plus Blood Run Site, Iowa Tablets
> 418. Six incised limestone slabs from Middle Tennessee
> 420. Piqua, Ohio Ketika Figurines (two)
> 476. 56 Sailing Ship tablets from Florida
> 738. 262 Hardaway and Doerchuk Site Tablets from North Carolina
> 739. Solomonville, AZ Tablet
> 939. 300 plus tablets described by Schuster and Carpenter in
Patterns
> That Connect: The social Symbolism of Tribal Art
> 940. 13 CK 28 bastian Site Utz Tablet
> 941. New Albin Tablet
> 945. 4 Scott Couinty Iowa Tablets
> 958 13 Easter island tablets
> 2200. 1242 Hohokam Tablets (See Devin Alan White book)
> 2201. Kennsington Runestone
> 3331. 1130 Iberian Peninsula tablets (see
> http://research2.its.uiowa.edu/iberian/
> 4330. Blombos Cave, South Africa Engraved stones (over 1000?)
> 11331. Southern Illinois "burrows cave" tablets, this will add
around
> 7000 to the total.
> 11
>
> Most archaeologists do not understand the find, therefore dismissing
> it as a fraud. However, there is still so much to learn about the
> past. To assume that we know everything about it is irresponsible.
>
> I think a defining trait of Cahokia Mounds is the "Beaded burial",
> which was characterized by two burials, one facing up and the other
> downward, Between the burials is a falcon-shaped cloak made from
shell
> beads. This mythical transcendent "Birdman" burial was found
depicted
> inscribed on tablets from as far away as ohio, west Virginia, and
> possible the Easter islands.
>
> A very rare Native American artifact called the Kassly-Schaefer
tablet
> is now on permanent display at the Cahokia Mounds. This interesting
> sandstone tablet is inscribed on both sides with symbols that
> represent a very scarce remainder of those that were made by people
> that lived in the civilization called the Cahokia Mounds. The
symbols
> were carved from sandstone at the location of the present day
Cahokia
> Mounds and probably are a record of tribal mythology. It had been
left
> at its place of discovery south of Old Valmeyer, IL for eons since
it
> was carried by an elite resident known as a "medicine-man" who may
> have wiped off the dust that touched it for use as medicine. Such
> tablets were reported as being carried in feather down pouches in
the
> Jesuit Chronicles such as shown in Codex Canadeinsis page 23,
figure 34.
>
> The finder Elizabeth Agnes Kassly discovered the tablet in pieces on
> November 15, 2000 and May 15, 2003 after the tablet had been broken,
> either by the maker or hit by a plow.
>
> Icons include an ancestral lineage feather on the top of the front
> side above a deeply engraved line that represents sea water. Overall
> constellation placement resembles Aquarias, the water bearer,
however,
> seven inscribed points on the central figure resemble an asterism
> grouping called "Ursa Major". The front right side shows a set of
> four downward branching lines that represent the tops of red cedar
> trees. Beneath this is the drawing of a human foot, reminiscent of
the
> Nanabozho story of the Lunar maiden that was kicked off the moon by
> two other ladies that were jealous of her meticulous perfection and
> beauty. Beneath this is a set of 12 fringelike lines, possibly
> representing individual months or human forms. The right leg is
drawn
> with a sharpened appearance and may have connections to Blackfoot
and
> Natoas myths of the tornado called the "Sharpened leg". The reverse
> crosshatched side bears resemblance to scales of a venomous
Copperhead
> snakeskin shedding diagonally from the halfway point toward the
right.
> This symbol is of maya, or veiled consciousness and each x
represents
> the arms and legs interlocking of all the ancestral founders.
> Completing the important discovery was an ancient pottery head that
> was made with an insect-like right eye, an upturned beak-like nose,
> and an open mouth showing teeth. More can be seen about these
objects
> at the following web locations:
>
> http://lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-pages/clayheadkasslypage1.htm
> (dismissed by Cahokia Mounds Site management as "Dr. Spock")
>
> http://lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-pages/kasslytabletbirdlarge.htm
>
> http://lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-
pages/tabletssandstonebirdman.htm
>
> The right eye probably represents the sun and the left missing eye
> represents the moon. We will never know the exact meaning intended
by
> the ancient master, however, Native American Ojibwe mythology of
> Nanabozho may represent a more recent record of parallel mythology.
> The Ancient Finnish mythology shared such myths, and ancient latin
> called Ogham is similar in appearance to the Red Cedar trees.
> Doubtlessly, this tablet is filled with meaning and importance.
>
> Thanks
> Vince Barrows
>