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Re: [Psychomanteum] Re: Manteum Chamber

Hi everyone

My apologies for missing these messages over the last few days. After my initial post it seemed that nothing came back so I thought that the list was dead (pardon the pun). But you obviously are all still here. So thank you for the many responses I'll answer them all here rather than individually. 

The psychomanteum I created was/is rather elaborate in keeping with my artistic background and with the fact that I built it to take it to a certain festival in the desert.  What I built was a yurt 16ft in diameter and 8 ft tall in the center. Within the yurt I placed a number of artifacts and drawings to give the space some feeling of metaphysical activity and I had a variety of reflecting surfaces so that the user could choose which they wanted to use. These were a large iron cauldron with water in it and one or two mirrors. 

The first time I took it to the festival in 2007 I had a basic set up, the space was fairly bare and I paid little attention to the sound level, the light or the orientation of the space. I permitted friends of friends to use it all of whom were dealing with grief in some way. I thought that I had had a good deal of sucess when one person out of the 12 or so who tried had an experience some days after attempting it in the space. In Dr. Moody's book he does say that the experience can come come up to a week or so after, usually late at night and this was exactly what happened to this individual when the friend they'd tried to see in the psychomanteum  came to them in the night.

In 2008 I tried again at the same festival. This time I made the space much more elaborate, lining it with dark nylon silk to create a real gloom and I had a cover for the skylight so I could control the light fully. The only illumination in there was the flame of a turkish oil lamp. I had many more artifacts including a black painted wardrobe that housed the main mirror, one of 2 (2' x 3'and 4' x 5') both of which had large black frames, the cauldron again and an elaborate compass like diagram on the floor. I took care to orient the structure to the compass and to magnetic north having the door at the south and on the advice of some new age spiritual types with whom I was working at the time I did extensive rituals to banish the wrong kinds of spirits and summon the right ones. I took great care to sage people before hand and cleanse the space after each usage and I myself took part in a ritual to hold the space while people were present and using it. 

This time almost everyone who passed through the space said that they had a significant experience feeling the presence of or communicating with spirits. Three of them seeing the person they wished to visit with in the mirror as a full apparition. One person a reiki healer of some considerable psychic ability had an exceptional experience where he saw a multitude of spirits--though none of them associated with himself.  Many of the people that went though the space this year were friends but a percentage were complete strangers, a minority were dealing with grief. 

Personally I attempted to use the space both years and got nothing either time. The structure is too large to erect in New York though I am presently looking for a suitable space to use it here.

I cant help feeing that the ritual aspects of what I did greatly enhanced the success of the psychomanteum this year. Dr. Moody completely ignores any mention of ritual and seems to have carried on his work in a ritualistically sterile, almost scientific manner. The only advice he offered me in a brief exchange of emails last year was to make sure it was dark and quiet. I was dark certainly this year but I had no control of sound due to the festival outside and the thinness of the walls and if anything this year was noisier than last. 

Thanks for the link to manteum.com--I hadn't seen that site before and lots of useful info. 

Philip


On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:36 AM, kenn32002 wrote:

--- In Psychomanteum@yahoogroups.com, Delta <deltafour1212@...> wrote:
>
> HI Ken,
> My apologies I realized that after I sent it.
> I have tried to to experiment with contacting the otherside  through 
various methods  but to no avail.   I have  even bought Monroe tapes but 
nothing ever happened. I'd like to go to a  hypnotist and do what you 
suggest but never  knew how to word  that i would like to experince 
some spirit guide or paranormal  experience.by copntactnig the otherside.
>  
> Delta

Hi Delta
You asked about hypnosis. Simple. Just go to your local Yellow Pages and 
and call, asking if they do Metaphysical Hypnosis. Some actually 
specialize in it. Or look at the website of the National Guilf of 
Hypnotists and they can give you the names of perhaps several people in 
your neigborhood that would like to help.
Ken




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Hi, Phil I ahve always wanted to talk to aperson who used the chamber. I have read articles on this but never done it myself. Always wondered if it worked or...
Delta
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Hi Delta You addressed your posting to Phil but used my message. I've done the same thing over the years but, in case you wanted my input, here it is. Phil...
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Feb 25, 2009
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When building a chamber does one have to take into account outside noise?  Also is there a "right" time when to use it?  Last question how does one build a...
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Hi Joseph and All You asked some very good questions and as a guy who has been into metaphysics for a while I would like to take a stab at answering them. ... ...
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Thank you for your help in answering my questions.  The information is very helpful.   Joseph ... From: kenn32002 <kenn3eth@...> Subject:...
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HOW TO BUILD A  [Psychomanteum] Manteum Chamber   http://www.manteum.com/actual_use.html   Enjoy   Carl HOW TO BUILD A [Psychomanteum] Manteum Chamber ...
Delta
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HI Ken, My apologies I realized that after I sent it. I have tried to to experiment with contacting the otherside  through various methods  but to no...
Delta
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Feb 25, 2009
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... various methods  but to no avail.   I have  even bought Monroe tapes but nothing ever happened. I'd like to go to a  hypnotist and do what you suggest...
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Feb 26, 2009
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Hi everyone My apologies for missing these messages over the last few days. After my initial post it seemed that nothing came back so I thought that the list...
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Has anyone ever thought of putting a Sony Night shot IR cam or a tape recorder f in the room to see if they can capture a apparition or EVP's?   Delta Has...
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Feb 26, 2009
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They use this kind of gear in ghost hunting, so why not use them in a manteum. My guess is that they have been used. Please let me know what your experience is...
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