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QM_from_GR · QM from GR: 4-geons and more...

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  • Members: 160
  • Category: Quantum Physics
  • Founded: Aug 22, 2001
  • Language: English
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The two great pillars of twentieth-century physics are Einstein’s theory of General Relativity (GR) and the theory of quantum mechanics (QM). Despite the tremendous successes of these two theories, they have resisted numerous attempts, by many brilliant people, to be unified into a single consistent whole. While GR and QM are not quite contradictory, their relationship has been described as, at best, one of "peaceful coexistence."

It is only a matter of time before GR and QM are replaced by a single, consistent, and coherent theory that goes beyond "peaceful coexistence." The failures of the past do not necessitate failures forever. In fact, many of the great scientific revolutions of the past were based on theories that could easily have been developed decades before they actually were - Special Relativity (SR) being just one such example. This group is dedicated to the serious-minded exploration of proposals for the unification of GR and QM into a single, consistent, and coherent theory.

Members realize that the first goal of any proposed unification must be to reproduce standard QM and GR, perhaps as approximations. It is hoped, however, that any new theory will also lead to new predictions -- new physics -- by which it may be tested. Although any serious proposal will be entertained, we are especially interested in the recent work by Dr. Mark J. Hadley, who offers a reasonable framework for the derivation of QM from GR.

Download Dr. Hadley's provocative proposal, entitled:

The Logic of Quantum Mechanics Derived From Classical General Relativity: Foundations of Physics Letters Vol 10, No.1, (1997) 43-60.

from our Bookmarks at the left, or from his homepage:
http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~phsem/

Members are expected to have a healthy respect for fellow members and for the scientific establishment. Amateurs and professionals are welcome; however, members are expected to read scientific papers regularly. So let's learn -- and have fun!

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Re: Inherent stability of Rutherford's nuclear model of the hydrogen
Hi Mark You are quite right in that electrons moving in a circular path, in a synchtrotron, emit radiation. In the synchrotron the accelerating electric field
Posted - Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:15 pm
Musa D. Abdullahi
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Re: Inherent stability of Rutherford's nuclear model of the hydrogen
Hi Mark May be not exactly circular Musa D. Abdullahi To: QM_from_GR@yahoogroups.com From: mark.hadley@... Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:29:43 +0100
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Re: Inherent stability of Rutherford's nuclear model of the hydrogen
you are simply wrong. A synchrotron works exactly from the radiation from electrons moving in a circle. Cheers Mark ________________________________ From:
Posted - Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:35 pm
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Inherent stability of Rutherford's nuclear model of the hydrogen ato
Sir Ernest Rutherford’s (1911) model of the hydrogen atom consists of a negatively charged electron revolving in a circular orbit round a heavy positively
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Re: An explanation of inertia of a body
Hi all QM_from_GR'ers :-) I recall reading about similar hypotheses before, they were reported in the general literature a few years ago. In the spirit of
Posted - Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:34 am
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