I think my Epson R1800 is in need of replacement. I love the quality
of the prints; that is, when the heads aren't clogging up. Does anyone
have suggestions for a high quality B&W replacement? Also, is there
any consensus on replacement continuous feed systems. I've been using
MK3 carbon ink cartridges and recently they have consistently failed
to print. This happened when their cartridge design changed to smaller
ones with no peel-off seal. Any one else had similar problems? Thanks
for any help.

Ola Olsson

Are you sure it's not the dreaded "pizza wheels"? Surely head problems would
give horizontal lines.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "igor_mountain" <igorkarpenko@...> wrote:
>
> You should also do head alignment …
>
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "igor_mountain" <igorkarpenko@> wrote:
> >
> > A cleaning cycle did not get rid of the problem?  Did you do a nozzle check?
You have to check it closely, even if it seems like there are no gaps in the
printed pattern.  You can scan the nozzle check pattern or take a picture of it
and then enlarge it in Photoshop.  You may also need to darken the image
somewhat so that you can see the lighter pattern easier.
> >
> > Examine nozzle step down patterns to make sure that each nozzle line starts
at the end of the line to the left, one nozzle width down and that all nozzle
lines are straight.  If you see some problems, you may need to do some "deep"
cleaning.
> >
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Richard J Mirvis <rmirvis@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am new to quadtonerip need some help, use 1800 when printing with epson
premium luster paper I get fine verticle lines on print. Can anyone give me some
help  thanks richard
> > >
> > >
> > > DICK

You should also do head alignment …


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "igor_mountain" <igorkarpenko@...> wrote:
>
> A cleaning cycle did not get rid of the problem?  Did you do a nozzle check? 
You have to check it closely, even if it seems like there are no gaps in the
printed pattern.  You can scan the nozzle check pattern or take a picture of it
and then enlarge it in Photoshop.  You may also need to darken the image
somewhat so that you can see the lighter pattern easier.
>
> Examine nozzle step down patterns to make sure that each nozzle line starts at
the end of the line to the left, one nozzle width down and that all nozzle lines
are straight.  If you see some problems, you may need to do some "deep"
cleaning.
>
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Richard J Mirvis <rmirvis@> wrote:
> >
> > I am new to quadtonerip need some help, use 1800 when printing with epson
premium luster paper I get fine verticle lines on print. Can anyone give me some
help  thanks richard
> >
> >
> > DICK
> >
> > --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Terry <TerryGls@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Terry <TerryGls@>
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Bronzing for Various Glossy / Luster Papers R800
/ R1800
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 6:53 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Igor,
> >
> > It is hard to tell but would probably agree the Epson Luster has a very
slight edge. The Innova has a "irregular" surface with the Hh Pearl smoother and
the Epson Luster smooth with the Luster sparkle may give it more apparent
sharpness.
> >
> > It's amazing to me the differences in the bronzing effect on the PK ink
among the various glossy/luster/ satin/pearl papers.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "igor_mountain" <igorkarpenko@ ...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Not about bronzing, but about sharpness: the same picture printed on Epson
Ultra Premium Luster appears sharper to me compared to Innova Fiba and
Hahnemuhle Baryta and Perl papers.
> > >
> > > Did you notice any difference?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've added an 8th paper to my list.
> > > >
> > > > Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Luster (250gsm, 10.4mil) 30/35 no bronzing on
the R800 / R1800 std Epson Inks
> > > >
> > > > I understand this paper is no longer available.
> > > >
> > > > Any comments on this data?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Terry
> > > >
> > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I had 7 glossy / luster papers and wanted to see the bronzing effect
on each. I printed out the Quadtone Rip Ink Separation Test Page on each which
shows 21 steps of increasing ink densities.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've let the papers dry for 3 days and visually viewed at an angle
under an Ott-Lite which is supposed to be 5000-5500 degree Kelvin.
> > > > >
> > > > > While somewhat subjective there are some clear differences with the
Epson Luster being the worst re bronzing. I now see why so many posts here
regarding the amount of Gloss and or spray required to reduce the bronzing on
the PK ink for glossy/luster papers on the R800 / R1800 printers and especially
the Epson Luster. All were printed 2880, uni-directional, and adaptive-hybird on
my R1800.
> > > > >
> > > > > I looked at each printed paper and the % where I thought the PK ink
was not "bronzing." was noted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Imation Photo Jet â€" None (maybe 5)
> > > > > Ilford Classic Pearl (Black Box) â€" 20/25
> > > > > Ilford Smooth Pearl (Red Box) â€" 25/30
> > > > > Harman Gloss FB AL â€" 25/30
> > > > > Ilford Gold Fiber Silk â€" 35/40
> > > > > Innova Fibra Print â€" 40/45
> > > > > Epson Ultra Premium Luster â€" 45/50 (when observed right after
printing it was 60/65)
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have any data on other papers? I'd be interested in the
Harman Crystaljet Luster RC paper.
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

A cleaning cycle did not get rid of the problem?  Did you do a nozzle check? 
You have to check it closely, even if it seems like there are no gaps in the
printed pattern.  You can scan the nozzle check pattern or take a picture of it
and then enlarge it in Photoshop.  You may also need to darken the image
somewhat so that you can see the lighter pattern easier.

Examine nozzle step down patterns to make sure that each nozzle line starts at
the end of the line to the left, one nozzle width down and that all nozzle lines
are straight.  If you see some problems, you may need to do some "deep"
cleaning.


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Richard J Mirvis <rmirvis@...> wrote:
>
> I am new to quadtonerip need some help, use 1800 when printing with epson
premium luster paper I get fine verticle lines on print. Can anyone give me some
help  thanks richard
>
>
> DICK
>
> --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Terry <TerryGls@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Terry <TerryGls@...>
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Bronzing for Various Glossy / Luster Papers R800 /
R1800
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 6:53 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Igor,
>
> It is hard to tell but would probably agree the Epson Luster has a very slight
edge. The Innova has a "irregular" surface with the Hh Pearl smoother and the
Epson Luster smooth with the Luster sparkle may give it more apparent sharpness.
>
> It's amazing to me the differences in the bronzing effect on the PK ink among
the various glossy/luster/ satin/pearl papers.
>
> Terry
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "igor_mountain" <igorkarpenko@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > Not about bronzing, but about sharpness: the same picture printed on Epson
Ultra Premium Luster appears sharper to me compared to Innova Fiba and
Hahnemuhle Baryta and Perl papers.
> >
> > Did you notice any difference?
> >
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've added an 8th paper to my list.
> > >
> > > Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Luster (250gsm, 10.4mil) 30/35 no bronzing on the
R800 / R1800 std Epson Inks
> > >
> > > I understand this paper is no longer available.
> > >
> > > Any comments on this data?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Terry
> > >
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I had 7 glossy / luster papers and wanted to see the bronzing effect on
each. I printed out the Quadtone Rip Ink Separation Test Page on each which
shows 21 steps of increasing ink densities.
> > > >
> > > > I've let the papers dry for 3 days and visually viewed at an angle under
an Ott-Lite which is supposed to be 5000-5500 degree Kelvin.
> > > >
> > > > While somewhat subjective there are some clear differences with the
Epson Luster being the worst re bronzing. I now see why so many posts here
regarding the amount of Gloss and or spray required to reduce the bronzing on
the PK ink for glossy/luster papers on the R800 / R1800 printers and especially
the Epson Luster. All were printed 2880, uni-directional, and adaptive-hybird on
my R1800.
> > > >
> > > > I looked at each printed paper and the % where I thought the PK ink was
not "bronzing." was noted.
> > > >
> > > > Imation Photo Jet â€" None (maybe 5)
> > > > Ilford Classic Pearl (Black Box) â€" 20/25
> > > > Ilford Smooth Pearl (Red Box) â€" 25/30
> > > > Harman Gloss FB AL â€" 25/30
> > > > Ilford Gold Fiber Silk â€" 35/40
> > > > Innova Fibra Print â€" 40/45
> > > > Epson Ultra Premium Luster â€" 45/50 (when observed right after printing
it was 60/65)
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any data on other papers? I'd be interested in the
Harman Crystaljet Luster RC paper.
> > > >
> > > > Comments appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Terry
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I am new to quadtonerip need some help, use 1800 when printing with epson
premium luster paper I get fine verticle lines on print. Can anyone give me some
help  thanks richard


DICK

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Terry <TerryGls@...> wrote:


From: Terry <TerryGls@...>
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Bronzing for Various Glossy / Luster Papers R800 /
R1800
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 6:53 PM


 



Igor,

It is hard to tell but would probably agree the Epson Luster has a very slight
edge. The Innova has a "irregular" surface with the Hh Pearl smoother and the
Epson Luster smooth with the Luster sparkle may give it more apparent sharpness.

It's amazing to me the differences in the bronzing effect on the PK ink among
the various glossy/luster/ satin/pearl papers.

Terry

--- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "igor_mountain" <igorkarpenko@ ...> wrote:
>
> Not about bronzing, but about sharpness: the same picture printed on Epson
Ultra Premium Luster appears sharper to me compared to Innova Fiba and
Hahnemuhle Baryta and Perl papers.
>
> Did you notice any difference?
>
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> >
> > I've added an 8th paper to my list.
> >
> > Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Luster (250gsm, 10.4mil) 30/35 no bronzing on the
R800 / R1800 std Epson Inks
> >
> > I understand this paper is no longer available.
> >
> > Any comments on this data?
> >
> > Thanks, Terry
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ yahoogroups. com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I had 7 glossy / luster papers and wanted to see the bronzing effect on
each. I printed out the Quadtone Rip Ink Separation Test Page on each which
shows 21 steps of increasing ink densities.
> > >
> > > I've let the papers dry for 3 days and visually viewed at an angle under
an Ott-Lite which is supposed to be 5000-5500 degree Kelvin.
> > >
> > > While somewhat subjective there are some clear differences with the Epson
Luster being the worst re bronzing. I now see why so many posts here regarding
the amount of Gloss and or spray required to reduce the bronzing on the PK ink
for glossy/luster papers on the R800 / R1800 printers and especially the Epson
Luster. All were printed 2880, uni-directional, and adaptive-hybird on my R1800.
> > >
> > > I looked at each printed paper and the % where I thought the PK ink was
not "bronzing." was noted.
> > >
> > > Imation Photo Jet – None (maybe 5)
> > > Ilford Classic Pearl (Black Box) – 20/25
> > > Ilford Smooth Pearl (Red Box) – 25/30
> > > Harman Gloss FB AL – 25/30
> > > Ilford Gold Fiber Silk – 35/40
> > > Innova Fibra Print – 40/45
> > > Epson Ultra Premium Luster – 45/50 (when observed right after printing
it was 60/65)
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any data on other papers? I'd be interested in the Harman
Crystaljet Luster RC paper.
> > >
> > > Comments appreciated.
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> >
>








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Skip,

I am still active with my camera, but the day job is taking its toll.  In
this economic environment employers are "increasing the rate of
exploitation" as my old friend Karl would say.  I am sure there is light at
the end of the tunnel - perhaps next week?

Yours,

John

2009/11/19 skip crawford <auntskip2@...>

> hello john....havent seen you in some time around the web
> skip
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
John Beeching
http://johnbeeching.com/


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hello john....havent seen you in some time around the web
skip

Hello,


I am the moderator for the next round of the UK exchange group.  The round was
announced at message 1605 here.  UK exchange group 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/UK_BW_PrintExchange/messages


Please apply to join and ask questions of me or of the group and we will give
you awarm welcome.

Regards,

Colin Conway

Before photography, I looked - now, I see.

www.colinconwayphotography.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Just to echo what Howard said. I am also a member of that group. Many
there use QTR.

I use QTR and IJC/OPM on an Epson 2100 and 7800.

Regards
Mark


Howard Shaw wrote:
>
> If you're looking to discuss QTR and perhaps exchange prints with other
> QTR users in the UK you might want to consider joining the UK B & W
> Print exchange group.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK_BW_PrintExchange/
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK_BW_PrintExchange/>
>
> regards
> Howard
>
> --
> Howard Shaw
> glassman@... <mailto:glassman%40btinternet.com>
> www.howardshaw.org
>
> natcarish wrote:
> > I'm wanting to link up with any QTR users in the UK, ideally West of
> England, hopefully using 7600 or 4000 printers, but that's not essential.
> >
> > Any of you out there?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

I am a QTR user living in Somerset and working in Bath.  Though I use a 2100
rather than the Epson models you mention.  Also a member of the photo
exchange group mentioned by howard Shaw.

Yours,

John

2009/11/17 natcarish <natcarish@...>

> I'm wanting to link up with any QTR users in the UK, ideally West of
> England, hopefully using 7600 or 4000 printers, but that's not essential.
>
> Any of you out there?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
John Beeching
http://johnbeeching.com/


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Igor,

It is hard to tell but would probably agree the Epson Luster has a very slight
edge.  The Innova has a "irregular" surface with the Hh Pearl smoother and the
Epson Luster smooth with the Luster sparkle may give it more apparent sharpness.

It's amazing to me the differences in the bronzing effect on the PK ink among
the various glossy/luster/satin/pearl papers.

Terry

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "igor_mountain" <igorkarpenko@...> wrote:
>
> Not about bronzing, but about sharpness: the same picture printed on Epson
Ultra Premium Luster appears sharper to me compared to Innova Fiba and
Hahnemuhle Baryta and Perl papers.
>
> Did you notice any difference?
>
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> >
> > I've added an 8th paper to my list.
> >
> > Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Luster (250gsm, 10.4mil) 30/35 no bronzing on the
R800 / R1800 std Epson Inks
> >
> > I understand this paper is no longer available.
> >
> > Any comments on this data?
> >
> > Thanks, Terry
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I had 7 glossy / luster papers and wanted to see the bronzing effect on
each.  I printed out the Quadtone Rip Ink Separation Test Page on each which
shows 21 steps of increasing ink densities.
> > >
> > > I've let the papers dry for 3 days and visually viewed at an angle under
an Ott-Lite which is supposed to be 5000-5500 degree Kelvin.
> > >
> > > While somewhat subjective there are some clear differences with the Epson
Luster being the worst re bronzing.  I now see why so many posts here regarding
the amount of Gloss and or spray required to reduce the bronzing on the PK ink
for glossy/luster papers on the R800 / R1800 printers and especially the Epson
Luster.  All were printed 2880, uni-directional, and adaptive-hybird on my
R1800.
> > >
> > > I looked at each printed paper and the % where I thought the PK ink was
not "bronzing." was noted.
> > >
> > > Imation Photo Jet – None (maybe 5)
> > > Ilford Classic Pearl (Black Box) – 20/25
> > > Ilford Smooth Pearl (Red Box) – 25/30
> > > Harman Gloss FB AL – 25/30
> > > Ilford Gold Fiber Silk – 35/40
> > > Innova Fibra Print – 40/45
> > > Epson Ultra Premium Luster – 45/50 (when observed right after printing it
was 60/65)
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any data on other papers?  I'd be interested in the
Harman Crystaljet Luster RC paper.
> > >
> > > Comments appreciated.
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> >
>

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "enggass" <enggass@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks! I had figured it out. I was running the script from the wrong
location.
> Once I moved it - then ran it, my profiles showed up as expected.
> Thanks,
> Steve
>

I'm having the same issue.  Can you please post the correct location for running
the scripts.

Thanks

Flannon

If you're looking to discuss QTR and perhaps exchange prints with other
   QTR users in the UK you might want to consider joining the UK B & W
Print exchange group.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK_BW_PrintExchange/

regards
Howard

--
Howard Shaw
glassman@...
www.howardshaw.org

natcarish wrote:
> I'm wanting to link up with any QTR users in the UK, ideally West of England,
hopefully using 7600 or 4000 printers, but that's not essential.
>
> Any of you out there?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

I'm wanting to link up with any QTR users in the UK, ideally West of England,
hopefully using 7600 or 4000 printers, but that's not essential.

Any of you out there?

Doh! Thanks to Roy Harrington for pointing out the need to print at 1440dpi or
better. I was making test prints at 720dpi. As soon as I switched to 1440Super,
the prints looked great.

In case anyone's interested, printing on Ilford Galerie Gold Fiber Silk works
great with the ISmoothPearl curves. IGGFS is a semi-matte baryta paper that
takes Photo Black ink. Its surface is a lot like that of Ilford Multigrade fiber
B&W darkroom paper. It's very nice with color, but especially suited to B&W
printing. And, it's pretty affordable.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Jacques" <jacques4242@...> wrote:
>
> I used QTR with success several years ago. Now, I'm starting to use QTR 2.6.2,
and I've read and followed the "Tutorial" and "User Guide" docs exactly, to no
avail. I'm using PS CS3 under OS X 10.5.8 and printing on Epson Enhanced Matte
paper on an Epson 4000 with standard UltraChrome inks.
>
> I converted my image to Gray Gamma 2.2 in PS, selected the QTR - Gray Matte
Paper profile, Perceptual, Black Point Compensation, blended curves
UC-EEnhMatte-warm & UC-EEnhMatte-cool 49/51, and printed at 720dpi,
bi-directional with Matte ink. The result is terrible, with only light and
middle grays and a bit of black, but no dark grays. What am I missing?
>
> Also, what are the QTR_RGB_Matte_Paper and QTR_RGB_Photo_Paper profiles for?
Do I select them when printing a monochrome RGB file?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Jacques
>

while I am at it, here is the list of supported papers which we made complex six
ink curves for the 1280:

Epson Enhanced Matte (a.k.a. Epson Archival Matte)
Epson Heavyweight Matte
Hahnemuhle Albrecht Durer
Hahnemuhle Art Proof
Hahnemuhle Etching
Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Bright White
Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Smooth Satin
Hahnemuhle White Velvet
Hahnemuhle William Turner
Innova Cold Press Art
Innova Photo Fiba Print
Innova Photo Smooth Cotton
Innova Soft Textured Art
InkPress Waterproof Canvas
InkPress Picture Rag Cool
InkPress Picture Rag Warm
InkPress Print Plus Matte
InkPress Velvet
Legion Somerset Photo Enhanced Velvet
Moab Entrada Fine Art Bright White
Moab Entrada Fine Art Natural
Moab Kayenta Photo Matte

additional custom curves are here at $99 each
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/it.A/id.3682/.f?sc=15&category=-115

We make two types - our regular type and a type 2 for those who do not want to
see lots of shadow detail in their prints, or who use display monitors which do
not show much shadow detail.

let me know if you have any other questions.

Jon

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, now I get it.  The K6 and the K7 inksets are exactly the same except for
the addition of a 7th ink in the K7 set.  So if I want K6 I simply don't use
Shade #7.  Is that correct?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "piezobw" <jon@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > There are now at least five flavors of six shades of Piezography K6 which
will take the best advantage of your 1280:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.239/.f
> >
> > Selenium and Neutral were the most popular until Special Edition was
released. We also have Sepia and Warm Neutral. But my K6 curves which are in the
QTR software will allow you to SplitTone and tailor the inkset to what you
desire.
> >
> > If you would like to upload some of your images and try full size prints -
we offer inexpensive online printing here:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.29282/.f
> >
> > But Pieography Glossy is not an option for the six ink printers - so stick
to matte if you want to try your images with some of the new ink sets and QTR K6
driver.
> >
> >
> > I also offer custom QTR curve profiling if you find out we do not support
your paper choices.  The complete list is available on the info page which is
here:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.27707/.f
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Jon Cone
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's been a while since I printed B&W with Piezography ink.  I go back far
enough that I used to use the special R9 driver software.
> > >
> > > I want to start using my Epson 1280 again.  I think I need the Piezography
K6 inks, but a browse through inkjetmall.com seems to suggest that the K6 inks
are no longer sold?
> > >
> > > If that is the case what is the best/easy option for using B&W inks on an
Epson 1280 printer?  Are the inks at Inkjet Supply the best alternative for
printing using the QuadToneRIP driver?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
>

Here is an example of our most popular K6 ink, its called Special Edition K6 and
its a triple split tone from neutral into selenium and finally sepia shadows:

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/it.A/id.3672/.f

But click on each of the ink families and if you do not see a six shade ink set
- just select shades 1 - 6 individually.

Special Edition K6 is one of our best selling inks and we still support six ink
printers like the 1400.  K6 is K7 minus shade 7.

The QTR works differently than the old plugin software or the next generation
PiezographyBW ICC.  We converted the Piezography profiler to compile curves for
QTR and provided the curves to Roy to include in the $50 download of QTR. It's
very easy to use when you do not have to make your own curves. With the included
K6 curves its very similar to the plugin - just select your paper and go...  If
you need a profile for something we did not produce - we can make customs for
you.

regards,

Jon


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your personal reply Jon.  I have clicked on your supplied links and
those are exactly the sites I have been to already.  The problem is that I only
see K7 inks as a purchase option.  I hope I'm not sounding hopelessly blind here
but I don't see anywhere to click on a K6 purchase.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "piezobw" <jon@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > There are now at least five flavors of six shades of Piezography K6 which
will take the best advantage of your 1280:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.239/.f
> >
> > Selenium and Neutral were the most popular until Special Edition was
released. We also have Sepia and Warm Neutral. But my K6 curves which are in the
QTR software will allow you to SplitTone and tailor the inkset to what you
desire.
> >
> > If you would like to upload some of your images and try full size prints -
we offer inexpensive online printing here:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.29282/.f
> >
> > But Pieography Glossy is not an option for the six ink printers - so stick
to matte if you want to try your images with some of the new ink sets and QTR K6
driver.
> >
> >
> > I also offer custom QTR curve profiling if you find out we do not support
your paper choices.  The complete list is available on the info page which is
here:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.27707/.f
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Jon Cone
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's been a while since I printed B&W with Piezography ink.  I go back far
enough that I used to use the special R9 driver software.
> > >
> > > I want to start using my Epson 1280 again.  I think I need the Piezography
K6 inks, but a browse through inkjetmall.com seems to suggest that the K6 inks
are no longer sold?
> > >
> > > If that is the case what is the best/easy option for using B&W inks on an
Epson 1280 printer?  Are the inks at Inkjet Supply the best alternative for
printing using the QuadToneRIP driver?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
>

Exactly!

:)



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, now I get it.  The K6 and the K7 inksets are exactly the same except for
the addition of a 7th ink in the K7 set.  So if I want K6 I simply don't use
Shade #7.  Is that correct?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "piezobw" <jon@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > There are now at least five flavors of six shades of Piezography K6 which
will take the best advantage of your 1280:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.239/.f
> >
> > Selenium and Neutral were the most popular until Special Edition was
released. We also have Sepia and Warm Neutral. But my K6 curves which are in the
QTR software will allow you to SplitTone and tailor the inkset to what you
desire.
> >
> > If you would like to upload some of your images and try full size prints -
we offer inexpensive online printing here:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.29282/.f
> >
> > But Pieography Glossy is not an option for the six ink printers - so stick
to matte if you want to try your images with some of the new ink sets and QTR K6
driver.
> >
> >
> > I also offer custom QTR curve profiling if you find out we do not support
your paper choices.  The complete list is available on the info page which is
here:
> >
> > http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.27707/.f
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Jon Cone
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's been a while since I printed B&W with Piezography ink.  I go back far
enough that I used to use the special R9 driver software.
> > >
> > > I want to start using my Epson 1280 again.  I think I need the Piezography
K6 inks, but a browse through inkjetmall.com seems to suggest that the K6 inks
are no longer sold?
> > >
> > > If that is the case what is the best/easy option for using B&W inks on an
Epson 1280 printer?  Are the inks at Inkjet Supply the best alternative for
printing using the QuadToneRIP driver?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
>

Oh, now I get it.  The K6 and the K7 inksets are exactly the same except for the
addition of a 7th ink in the K7 set.  So if I want K6 I simply don't use Shade
#7.  Is that correct?

Thanks,
Mike

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "piezobw" <jon@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> There are now at least five flavors of six shades of Piezography K6 which will
take the best advantage of your 1280:
>
> http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.239/.f
>
> Selenium and Neutral were the most popular until Special Edition was released.
We also have Sepia and Warm Neutral. But my K6 curves which are in the QTR
software will allow you to SplitTone and tailor the inkset to what you desire.
>
> If you would like to upload some of your images and try full size prints - we
offer inexpensive online printing here:
>
> http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.29282/.f
>
> But Pieography Glossy is not an option for the six ink printers - so stick to
matte if you want to try your images with some of the new ink sets and QTR K6
driver.
>
>
> I also offer custom QTR curve profiling if you find out we do not support your
paper choices.  The complete list is available on the info page which is here:
>
> http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.27707/.f
>
> regards,
>
> Jon Cone
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@> wrote:
> >
> > It's been a while since I printed B&W with Piezography ink.  I go back far
enough that I used to use the special R9 driver software.
> >
> > I want to start using my Epson 1280 again.  I think I need the Piezography
K6 inks, but a browse through inkjetmall.com seems to suggest that the K6 inks
are no longer sold?
> >
> > If that is the case what is the best/easy option for using B&W inks on an
Epson 1280 printer?  Are the inks at Inkjet Supply the best alternative for
printing using the QuadToneRIP driver?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Mike
> >
>

Thanks for your personal reply Jon.  I have clicked on your supplied links and
those are exactly the sites I have been to already.  The problem is that I only
see K7 inks as a purchase option.  I hope I'm not sounding hopelessly blind here
but I don't see anywhere to click on a K6 purchase.

Regards,
Mike

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "piezobw" <jon@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> There are now at least five flavors of six shades of Piezography K6 which will
take the best advantage of your 1280:
>
> http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.239/.f
>
> Selenium and Neutral were the most popular until Special Edition was released.
We also have Sepia and Warm Neutral. But my K6 curves which are in the QTR
software will allow you to SplitTone and tailor the inkset to what you desire.
>
> If you would like to upload some of your images and try full size prints - we
offer inexpensive online printing here:
>
> http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.29282/.f
>
> But Pieography Glossy is not an option for the six ink printers - so stick to
matte if you want to try your images with some of the new ink sets and QTR K6
driver.
>
>
> I also offer custom QTR curve profiling if you find out we do not support your
paper choices.  The complete list is available on the info page which is here:
>
> http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.27707/.f
>
> regards,
>
> Jon Cone
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@> wrote:
> >
> > It's been a while since I printed B&W with Piezography ink.  I go back far
enough that I used to use the special R9 driver software.
> >
> > I want to start using my Epson 1280 again.  I think I need the Piezography
K6 inks, but a browse through inkjetmall.com seems to suggest that the K6 inks
are no longer sold?
> >
> > If that is the case what is the best/easy option for using B&W inks on an
Epson 1280 printer?  Are the inks at Inkjet Supply the best alternative for
printing using the QuadToneRIP driver?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Mike
> >
>

Hi Mike,

There are now at least five flavors of six shades of Piezography K6 which will
take the best advantage of your 1280:

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.239/.f

Selenium and Neutral were the most popular until Special Edition was released.
We also have Sepia and Warm Neutral. But my K6 curves which are in the QTR
software will allow you to SplitTone and tailor the inkset to what you desire.

If you would like to upload some of your images and try full size prints - we
offer inexpensive online printing here:

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.29282/.f

But Pieography Glossy is not an option for the six ink printers - so stick to
matte if you want to try your images with some of the new ink sets and QTR K6
driver.


I also offer custom QTR curve profiling if you find out we do not support your
paper choices.  The complete list is available on the info page which is here:

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.27707/.f

regards,

Jon Cone

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@...> wrote:
>
> It's been a while since I printed B&W with Piezography ink.  I go back far
enough that I used to use the special R9 driver software.
>
> I want to start using my Epson 1280 again.  I think I need the Piezography K6
inks, but a browse through inkjetmall.com seems to suggest that the K6 inks are
no longer sold?
>
> If that is the case what is the best/easy option for using B&W inks on an
Epson 1280 printer?  Are the inks at Inkjet Supply the best alternative for
printing using the QuadToneRIP driver?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
>

"dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@...> wrote:

> ...
> I want to start using my Epson 1280 again.  ...
>
> ... what is the best/easy option for using B&W inks on an Epson 1280 printer? 
...


You might consider the 100% carbon options I've been using on a number of Epson
printers.  Eboni-6 < http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf > and the
Carbon-6 (user mixed) < http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf > are
generic 100% carbon monotone inksets that should work on virtually all Epson
printers.  On all I've tested they print with either the Epson driver and an ICC
made with QTR Create ICC or, of course, the QTR rip.  I use both approaches.

There is no more stable or affordable way to go if medium warm matte prints are
the goal.

The tones are varied via paper choice.  Page 8 of
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf has a graph that shows the range of
tones -- near neutral to medium warm.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

I'm using Win 7 and QTR.  It works great.

Tom

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, trlmtn <trlmtn@...> wrote:

> The specs on the web site don't include Windows 7 yet so has anyone tried
> it yet? Can we expect a new version in the next few months?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Tom Husband
http://california-travels.com/


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It's been a while since I printed B&W with Piezography ink.  I go back far
enough that I used to use the special R9 driver software.

I want to start using my Epson 1280 again.  I think I need the Piezography K6
inks, but a browse through inkjetmall.com seems to suggest that the K6 inks are
no longer sold?

If that is the case what is the best/easy option for using B&W inks on an Epson
1280 printer?  Are the inks at Inkjet Supply the best alternative for printing
using the QuadToneRIP driver?

Thanks in advance,
Mike

The specs on the web site don't include Windows 7 yet so has anyone tried it
yet? Can we expect a new version in the next few months?

Thanks,

Tim

There are, I believe, three 1440 resolutions: 1440, 1440x1440, and super 1440.
Can someone tell me what the differences are between these?

I read somewhere that 1440 super provides more "weaving" but I'm not sure what
that is or what it means.

Thanks, David.

Are there any dependencies, such as dlls or other unique programs, that might
start causing QTR to behave badly?

I even tried disabling all processors but 1 (I'm on a quad) to see if that would
prevent the error messages.

If I open any QIDF, from any folder, and hit 'show curve' I get variations on
the same error.  Sometimes it's qdotgain, sometimes it's qcurve, line 81 or l84.

Fresh install?  Yup.  4x.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "purduephotog" <hirsch@...> wrote:
>
> My apologies, but when I said any .qidf curve file- I literally meant *ANY*
file.
>
> I'm using the Epson R280-MIS.  I specifically had interest in the
MK-Red-River-Polar-BO.qidf file as I have that paper.  When I load it and press
'show curve' I get an error.
>
> I reinstalled QTR and the curve creation tools so I know they're fresh/clean
and haven't been tampered with.
>
> I haven't even gotten to the point of editing the curves for ink lay down as I
can't even graph the default ones.
>
> Thanks in advance-
>
> Jason
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@> wrote:
> >
> > Showing us the .qidf file you are using would help.
> > Are you using curve files such as a .acv or .raw ?
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:06 PM, purduephotog <hirsch@> wrote:
> > > After a year off (birth of first child, hardware failures) I'm trying to
pick back up with my BW printing.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately I've actually lost progress.  I had to reinstall QTR and now
I can not perform even the simplest tasks.
> > >
> > > When I grab any qidf file and try to use 'show curve' I get the above
mentioned error.
> > >
> > > I'm still trying to create a valid output profile that uses 3 inks- K, M,
and Y (I'll duplicate it and rotate it for C, LC/LM).  I love the look of the BO
but I'd much prefer to have smoother tones.
> > >
> > > SO, in short, can anyone set me back to progress?  And are there any other
automated spreadsheets or, perhaps, better documented methods for producing
curve files?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Not about bronzing, but about sharpness: the same picture printed on Epson Ultra
Premium Luster appears sharper to me compared to Innova Fiba and Hahnemuhle
Baryta and Perl papers.

Did you notice any difference?


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <TerryGls@...> wrote:
>
> I've added an 8th paper to my list.
>
> Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Luster (250gsm, 10.4mil) 30/35 no bronzing on the R800
/ R1800 std Epson Inks
>
> I understand this paper is no longer available.
>
> Any comments on this data?
>
> Thanks, Terry
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <TerryGls@> wrote:
> >
> > I had 7 glossy / luster papers and wanted to see the bronzing effect on
each.  I printed out the Quadtone Rip Ink Separation Test Page on each which
shows 21 steps of increasing ink densities.
> >
> > I've let the papers dry for 3 days and visually viewed at an angle under an
Ott-Lite which is supposed to be 5000-5500 degree Kelvin.
> >
> > While somewhat subjective there are some clear differences with the Epson
Luster being the worst re bronzing.  I now see why so many posts here regarding
the amount of Gloss and or spray required to reduce the bronzing on the PK ink
for glossy/luster papers on the R800 / R1800 printers and especially the Epson
Luster.  All were printed 2880, uni-directional, and adaptive-hybird on my
R1800.
> >
> > I looked at each printed paper and the % where I thought the PK ink was not
"bronzing." was noted.
> >
> > Imation Photo Jet – None (maybe 5)
> > Ilford Classic Pearl (Black Box) – 20/25
> > Ilford Smooth Pearl (Red Box) – 25/30
> > Harman Gloss FB AL – 25/30
> > Ilford Gold Fiber Silk – 35/40
> > Innova Fibra Print – 40/45
> > Epson Ultra Premium Luster – 45/50 (when observed right after printing it
was 60/65)
> >
> > Does anyone have any data on other papers?  I'd be interested in the Harman
Crystaljet Luster RC paper.
> >
> > Comments appreciated.
> >
> > Terry
> >
>

I used QTR with success several years ago. Now, I'm starting to use QTR 2.6.2,
and I've read and followed the "Tutorial" and "User Guide" docs exactly, to no
avail. I'm using PS CS3 under OS X 10.5.8 and printing on Epson Enhanced Matte
paper on an Epson 4000 with standard UltraChrome inks.

I converted my image to Gray Gamma 2.2 in PS, selected the QTR - Gray Matte
Paper profile, Perceptual, Black Point Compensation, blended curves
UC-EEnhMatte-warm & UC-EEnhMatte-cool 49/51, and printed at 720dpi,
bi-directional with Matte ink. The result is terrible, with only light and
middle grays and a bit of black, but no dark grays. What am I missing?

Also, what are the QTR_RGB_Matte_Paper and QTR_RGB_Photo_Paper profiles for? Do
I select them when printing a monochrome RGB file?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Jacques

Please change my email address that posts get sent to to: shcaim@...

.Thanks,
Sheila


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