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Rex and others, please comment:

(Note: I use Gunars in order to distinguish, who said what.)  I liked when you compared the evaluation of something as awful to more productive aspect of eliminating the act of awfulizing.

 

My follow on, vaguely reminiscent of Glasser’s “Choice Theory” (googling gives a good idea what it is).

 

1)       Ellis’ thought it irrational to rate totality of people and world, instead of rating characteristics of persons and people. Gunars: Characteristics best be accepted for now and some may be able to be changed given enough courage and effort.

2)       Rex thinks that defining awful as more than 100% bad, so bad that it should not exist, is inexact thinking--Gunars alternative ascribes a new meaning: to wit, that anything that precludes being able to enjoy life or lead a creative life. But that is not the dictionary definition. Rex suggests that we define awfulizing as an action that makes out things worse than they in reality are. Since it is not a recognized English word, and English is a living language, this appears to be sound.

3)       Gunars thinks that it self-defeating to ugentize—to generate the feeling that everything has to be done right now—instead of simply prioritizing and focusing on doing our priorities, without demanding and commanding that everything of importance be accomplished.

4)       As I understand Ellis and others, damning and downing self, others, and the world, is a totally useless and senseless action. We all know that people are imperfectible, but are Forever Fallible Fricken Human Beings (FFFHBs) and that world is what it is; we can’t command it to change by our damnation or downing.

5)        Gunars: Can’t-stand-izing and whining about frustration is equally useless. Just suck it up, eh? J Evaluate what can be done, build a plan, specify steps, and then earnestly follow your doable steps, see if you can effect a change.

6)       Don’t paint everything in black or white; don’t use inductive logic not based on selective evidence. At best inductive logic really cannot be counted on, because it takes one beyond the evidence (unlike deductive logic).

 

"Time to admit my mortality and put health as my priority! Can't have pleasure tomorrow, if I am not around tomorrow! :-)"

        Gunars

 



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