Hi Micah,

I for one and very happy that you have created this
forum. I have never posted anything that could be
considered slanderous and this is the internet.

I have posted my "real issues"; but, it is nothing
that will come back to haunt me. If something I
posted can help someone else with PTSD or with
irrational beliefs like my own, I am happy I posted.

The responses I get to my posts from you guys really
reinforces my "homework" and my therapist is impressed
with the advice I get.

Thank you for creating this avenue for people like me.

vicky


--- Micah Perkins <Micah.Perkins@...>
wrote:

> Nycki stated,
> "Did u realize that ur justifcation
> > for keeping it public was only for ur gain? Why
> should ppl need to
> watch
> > wot they say, distorting the truth simply coz u
> want this group
> promoted so
> > that someone'might' be able to give you business
> or praise in the
> future??"
>
> Ouch that hurt.
> Yes, I can honestly say that part of my reason for
> starting the group
> a few years ago was to increase my visability on the
> internet. I
> realized that there are not very many REBT
> therapists out there-
> especially ones that are willing to spend the time
> to add content to
> the interent.
> I was hoping that by signing my name to the posts
> that people who
> wanted to find an REBT therapist in Oklahoma could
> do it a little
> easier (Ironically, I still dont have a private
> practice... so,
> having exposure hasnt helped me in that reguard)
> Also, as I stated before, I hoped that it would
> facilitate meeting
> some of you guys at REBT functions. (And sure I like
> praise, but I
> have also recieved my fair share of criticism as the
> result of being
> on the internet)
>
> Even though I have spent literally thousands of
> hours devising
> content on the internet and have put my name on this
> site, my
> website, and on my podcast I have not earned a dime
> for all of this
> (except for the $5 in Amazon gift certificates that
> I recently earned
> for putting links to books on my website. I get 4%
> of sales IF a
> person buys the book... I hope to earn a whole $6
> this year which
> will go toward buying more books so that I wont have
> to keep using
> the same references in all of my materials).
>
> I do not have a private practice, I do not have
> books to sell. Part
> of me thinks I am nuts spending all of my time doing
> all of this for
> free. There have been times when I have considered
> saving the roughly
> $30 I spend each month on internet stuff and the
> roughly 15 hours a
> month I spend making content. But, it all comes down
> to my passion of
> teaching others about REBT.
>
> If the group remains public or not will not vastly
> affect my own
> internet exposure.It simply was a way to promote the
> group so that
> others could find and benefit from suggestions from
> other REBTers.
>
> When it comes to privacy on the internet. In this
> day and age, I
> honestly did not realize that people would honestly
> believe that any
> post that they made would be 100% private. If
> nothing else it goes
> out to 500+ strangers. I honestly believed that
> people would weigh
> what they wanted to post before they did it. I also
> realized that
> people could very easily post under assumed names.
> Therefore, I dont
> believe that it is fair to say that I am more
> interested in my own
> self promotion than the privacy of others. I figured
> that each
> individual is responsible for his or her own privacy
> comfort.
>
> Although I am not a lawyer, I dont believe that
> there has been
> anything illegal or unethical going on, on this
> site. Although I
> would not share client information (except past
> clients on rare
> occassions), any time anyone has spoken about a
> client there has been
> no identifiable information given. As far as I know
> that meets all of
> the ethical requirements. Even though Diane (for
> example) may have
> discussed some client's issues, I dont think any of
> us could say that
> she is talking about John Smith that lives in X city
> in X country.
> Now, if her client happened to find the post and was
> offended, then
> that is another matter, and one that she would have
> to deal with.
> Then she may decided to stop posting about that
> particular client.
>
> But, posting in and of itself, (when not including
> identifiable
> information) I believe, is not wrong. But, it is
> proabably a good
> suggestion to email others directly about
> suggestions for clients
> rather than posting them to the group. But, I do not
> believe that she
> (or any of us) have ethically done anything wrong.
>
> The only time that I believe that we boardered on
> some illegal stuff
> was some of the comments made during the start of
> the Ellis, AEI
> controversy which was starting to get rather
> slandorus. I believed
> that I did right by stepping in and asking the
> person to stop. If
> they would have continued then I would have banned
> them.
>
> Although the current poll suggests that people do
> not mind having the
> posts made public, I will immediately delete all of
> the posts in the
> archieve. That way no one will need to worry about
> anything that they
> have posted in the past.
>
> I will also put a warning lable on the description
> page.
> Steve, since you are an IT guy, if you have any
> suggestions for
> particular wording I would be open to it.
>
> The purpose of this group is to help others, not to
> cause more pain
> and missery.
>
> Micah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In REBT-CBT-FORUM@yahoogroups.com, "Nycki"
> <nycki@...> wrote:
> >
> > Micah..
> >
> > So ure saying that u want to minimize the comfort
> and safety of ur
> current
> > members in an effort to promote urself? Did u
> realize that ur
> justifcation
> > for keeping it public was only for ur gain? Why
> should ppl need to
> watch
> > wot they say, distorting the truth simply coz u
> want this group
> promoted so
> > that someone'might' be able to give you business
> or praise in the
> future??
> >
> > While u may feel that wot u share isnt any ethical
>
> violation...others
> > (officials & laypersons) may. Its not about wot
> we can justify;
> its about
> > wot the majority of society sees is appropriate.
> Sharing
> information of
> > others to promote your future business isnt
> respectful or
> professional.
> >
> > My beef is with these posts being able to be
> accessed by ppl who
> are doing a
> > google search..who are not even looking for this
> group. If someone
> who is
>
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