Thank you to all of the folks involved in putting on such a wonderful convention. It was amazing. I had a fun time and learned so much! Looking forward to...
A cool piece from Dan (and with a brief mention of ACT ...nice to see him making the connection) - S Steven C. Hayes Foundation Professor Department of...
Steven Hayes
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Jul 6, 2009 10:27 pm
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Hi Patty: I would like to hear more about that research. It is distinct from work on emotional avoidance; however, our lab does research on men and ...
Theoretically, RFT seems to link most clearly with verbal intelligence. I wonder if it can also be linked to fluid intelligence tasks? (fluid is often...
Hi all, I'm working on a paper for a special issue on 3rd wave therapies. The aim is to present the links between ACT and RFT. I'm struggling to be as precise...
I think the clearest definition of arbitrary relations (in the RFT sense) is "relations which are based on on other contextual factors than the stimuli which...
Agreed, and 'physical' in the definition as a basis for the relational pattern can be seen as being contrasted with 'abstract' or 'conceptual' not with...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 16, 2009 11:39 am
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Well, we need to be careful First (of course) we need to remember that the relational responses are are talking about are controlled by the relata themselves...
Steven Hayes
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Jul 16, 2009 2:06 pm
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Thanks Steve. I took Niklas' use of the term 'based on' in his definition to mean 'defined by' - meaning that his definition was '"relations which are defined...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 16, 2009 3:03 pm
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Yes, but not just that Suppose I teach a cockroach to run to the darker of two holes when the table vibrates, but to the lighter of two holes when there is...
Steven Hayes
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Jul 16, 2009 4:04 pm
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Well I'd argue that in this case, the relational response is controlled by features beyond those of the relata but the relational pattern isn't defined by...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 16, 2009 4:45 pm
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What is the behavioral distinction between "controlled by" and "defined by"? - S Steven C. Hayes Foundation Professor Department of Psychology /298 University...
Steven Hayes
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Jul 16, 2009 5:18 pm
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I would agree with Ian here. In your example, Steve, I thought RFT lingo would say that the type of relation is not controlled or defined by the vibration but...
I interpret 'defined by' to mean a source of control that's inherent in the definition of the relational response (in the case of NARR, physical features of...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 16, 2009 6:07 pm
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I don't know about disagreement yet. I'm just trying to walk thru it The original point I took to be to arrive at a functional definition that distinguishes ...
Steven Hayes
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Jul 16, 2009 6:14 pm
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I have a question and a suggestion. Steve, you wrote: Suppose I teach a cockroach to run to the darker of two holes when the table vibrates, but to the...
Rainer I'd argue that both the suggested definitions might admit the other sort of relational responding. The first definition was- --A non-arbitrary...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 17, 2009 9:52 am
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Actually, Niklas, one thing that occurs to me in relation to the below definition is the following - Anything can function as a Crel. So isn't it possible that...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 17, 2009 11:16 am
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So I start to think ”arbitrarily means when the relation is abstracted from the relation and can be used without respect to the relata”, is that somewhere...
“Two things that are similar to each other might function as a Crel for sameness relational responding” isn’t that like the pretraining schedule? Andreas...
Glad you enjoyed the workshop Andreas! Next time we'll both wear shades and offer red and blue pills at the start. Hmm... possible follies sketch. I think the...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 17, 2009 12:28 pm
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Well, yes and no - it is involved but not in the actual cue itself. The pre-training schedule typically involves establishing an abstract shape as a cue by...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 17, 2009 12:38 pm
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I was actually hoping to do the ”I’ll show you how deep the rabbit hole really goes” bit, lets do it at the same time, in different rooms. Or the same?...
Hi, Just wanted to thank you all for your help on this issue. It is (after a few readings) much clearer now. Going back to the précis of the book, I was...
Matt, There is a glossary available on the ACBS site that covers at least some of the important terms. It might be expanded though. ...
Stewart, Ian
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Jul 20, 2009 1:33 pm
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Cool! Might be useful to add the definition of the distinction between arbitrary and non arbitrary. In the AARR definition it is said "Learned relational...
We have a content web master joining the central staff: Jen Plumb. You can email her with stuff like this (until we get the site closer to full Wiki when...
Steven Hayes
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Jul 20, 2009 10:03 pm
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Interesting thoughts....I've been reading Wittgenstein lately and have some thoughts about his work's relation to rft and behaviorism. (i am not a wittgenstein...
Hi again Matt, This is the same as ques established by "social whim" in Steve's earlier argument. As I get it, a least. It seems to me that this is very close...
Hi Niklas and all, I like this last definition, which seems to solve my initial problem. Regarding social whim: Steve, if I understood you correctly, when you...
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