How appropriate is it to use RSS as a syndication wrapper for non- blog objects? For instance, if I want to syndicate iCal events for a nightclub or new-hire...
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Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Sep 20, 2002 7:35 pm
... There has been some work using a module in RSS 1.0. See: http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/discovery/2002/05/rsscal/ ...
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Bill Kearney
wkearney99
Sep 20, 2002 7:40 pm
... Sure use mod_event http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/event/ There are also other projects doing vCard serialization in XML and other event work. ...
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Sjoerd Visscher
sjoerd_visscher
Sep 20, 2002 7:46 pm
... This would all be o.k. Just make sure each item has either a title or a description. If you have small xml formatted payload, you can make a module. But ...
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Bill Kearney
wkearney99
Sep 20, 2002 7:50 pm
... or make use of mod_link as the element link is intended represent the item, not the pointed resource....
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Sean B. Palmer
sean_b_palmer
Sep 27, 2002 1:50 pm
... From: "Dave Winer" <dave@...> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:35 PM ... If Tim and Rael are in agreement, that's a pretty strong endorsement,...
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Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Sep 27, 2002 1:56 pm
... I agree, personally. It reminds me of the "Netscape removed the DTD" breakage of years back. -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the droid you're looking for ) Culture:...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 27, 2002 2:03 pm
Shelley, this [1] is a very interesting idea. I'm learning a lot even if it is on the razor's edge, with breakage possibly happening in every direction. But...
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Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Sep 27, 2002 2:04 pm
... In all respect, I can't help but think that all this would have been taken care had there been more of a "let's test all this stuff" instead of "let's get...
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Morbus Iff
morbus_iff
Sep 27, 2002 2:18 pm
... Correction. To not clobber other xmlns's on the same line, this is stronger: ! xmlns\s*=\s*"http://backend.userland.com/rss2"!! -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the...
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Shelley Powers
p2psmoke
Sep 27, 2002 2:24 pm
... Guys, you don't introduce changes into technology and then blame the consumers of those changes because they don't adapt quickly enough. Shelley...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 27, 2002 2:34 pm
I already outlined the situation in a post [1] on RSS-DEV. We don't need to do any string replacement. I think just dropping the xmlns attribute on the...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 27, 2002 2:52 pm
Simon, I believe if you update the person who had the problem will unbreak. http://127.0.0.1:5335/system/pages/updateRadioRoot Bottom-line: Namespaces are not...
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Danny Ayers
Danny_Ayers
Sep 27, 2002 9:20 pm
Hi, Are there any samples of the kind of stuff that's been causing the aggregators problems? I get the xmlns bit, but my guess is that if they can't take that...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 28, 2002 3:01 pm
Hi Danny, right now the feed we're trying to get working with all the aggregators is Scripting News: http://www.scripting.com/rss.xml Dave...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 28, 2002 3:05 pm
"Yesterday we tripped over what may be a very serious issue in XML. As with many things related to XML, it's highly politicized, so I'll try to cut through...
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Danny Ayers
Danny_Ayers
Sep 28, 2002 3:19 pm
If I remember correctly, namespace support didn't come into SAX until 2.0 so there's likely quite a lot of fairly respectable tools around that can't use ...
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Danny Ayers
Danny_Ayers
Sep 28, 2002 3:19 pm
Thanks. ... Danny Ayers <stuff> http://www.isacat.net </stuff> Idea maps for the Semantic Web http://ideagraph.net...
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Danny Ayers
Danny_Ayers
Sep 28, 2002 3:31 pm
Where are the 0.9x DTDs? Just to clarify what I had in mind : <!ATTLIST rss xmlns CDATA> should make a lot of difference with namespace-unaware, validating...
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Marcus Campbell
megadigiboy
Sep 28, 2002 4:44 pm
In my opinion, I think it's fair to assume that some parsers are going to break with the introduction of namespaces and that it's unavoidable or, at least,...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 28, 2002 4:52 pm
Yes, that's what Tim Bray argued for, but as a commercial software vendor, with customers, UserLand cannot afford to adopt this position. It's interesting that...
I support your position, and I wish the community would adopt it as well. But no vendor should step out and have to support this situation. No vendor in his...
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Marcus Campbell
megadigiboy
Sep 28, 2002 5:38 pm
... I can understand the problem. Breakages could actually work against those wishing to advance RSS, because some end-users could regress to 0.9* just to be...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 28, 2002 5:42 pm
Hey Danny, we're working on it. And I agree with your point. You're right, no one on RSS-DEV list was clamoring for RSS 2.0. They were happy with the status...
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Danny Ayers
Danny_Ayers
Sep 28, 2002 6:10 pm
Hey Danny, we're working on it. That's great. And I agree with your point. You're right, no one on RSS-DEV list was clamoring for RSS 2.0. They were happy with...
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Seth Russell
russellseth
Sep 28, 2002 6:36 pm
Dave, I agree with Orchard, when he says " I don't think that this is a fundamental flaw with RSS <http://www.decafbad.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RSS> 1.0, RSS ...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Sep 28, 2002 6:49 pm
... Exactly. And I don't think it's bold or selfless, it's one of the reasons I do Scripting News, so that we can move forward in content without waiting. And...
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Phil Ringnalda
philringnalda
Sep 28, 2002 6:50 pm
... Probably true, but since the number one design goal for the 0.9x/2.0 series is backward compatibility, we should at least try to minimize the breakage. ......
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Marcus Campbell
megadigiboy
Sep 29, 2002 10:35 am
... My head's starting to spin, but here's the reasons I could find why RSS 2.0 should require a default namespace: 1. If elements are left unqualified then...
