I just installed the newest version of the application, but it is set
to expire on December 29th, yesterday.  Am I doing something wrong?

I just downloaded RatShopper, and the first thing I tried to do was
import my Handyshopper backup files. The problem was the program would
not let me type anything in the file pathway box. No way to tell it
where to import from. Completely non funtional. What going on?

ok here is the trick. Took soem time to figure it out

1) install 2_10
2) use the application without importing handyshopper files(config
palm backup directory etc)
3) unzip all files from 2_12 into where the 2_10 is installed
(overwrite the 2_10 files)
4) copy the IconList.TPS from Files(in this group) and overwrite the
one in the ratshopper install directory on your computer
5) unzip the files from 2_15 into where the 2_10 is installed
(overwrite the 2_10 files)
6 ) open RatShooper, go to help->enable me. Don't do anything just
click ok->ok.

Now, the problem is I cannot open the hs2 files (*.pdb). I get "file
access error"

1. Whenever a list is exported from Rat Shopper, the Unfiled category
is messed up. I assume this is unintentional. Here is what happens to
me. I import my Handyshopper file. I edit it. I export it. When the
list is updated on my palm, whatever category was first in the list in
Rat Shopper takes on the attributes of the default category Unfiled on
the handheld. It is at the very bottom of the list. It can not be
edited at all. I ran tests. If I put a space in front of Unfiled or
any other character that causes it to stay as the first category in
the list, it behaves correctly when updated on the palm, just with the
extra character.

2. I can add items when browsing categories or the current list. I can
not add item when browsing the stores. It says it is unsupported.

3. Handyshopper allows text for aisles, but Rat Shopper does not. If I
edit an item that has a text aisle (meat, dairy etc)I must delete the
aisle info in order to save changes. Then I have to put the aisles
back on my palm.

I am new to Rat Shopper and not ready to do a full review of the
software. I will say it is a very good program and love the price!
Right now I would suggest fixing the Unfiled problem, supporting
adding items from browse stores and fixing the aisle discrepancy. I
would like to see the ability to select multiple items and edit any
feature. Splashshopper does this. You select the items, choose edit
multiple and input the info for any feild you need to change. I would
also find it extremely useful to be able to scroll between items or
start another new item while in item detail.

Just wanted to say thanks. By reloading the ICONS file, the program
worked.  I am enjoying being able to make mods and load it back to
my pda!  It is SO MUCH easier.

Thanks again
Sherry




--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, black_rat_software <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Try downloading IconList.TPS from the files section here, and use
it
> to replace the file with the same name on your system.
>
> Also check if there is a sub-directoy ICONS with around 80 files
in it.
>
> --- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, "sjslinky" <sjslinky@> wrote:
> >
> > I get the following Error message when trying to run Rat Shopper
2_15:
> >
> > "File IconList could not be opened.  Error Invalid Record
Declaration
> > (47), press OK to end this application."
> >
> > So, there is no alternative but to press OK and it ends the
> > application, so I am having problems.
> >
> > I can run rat shopper 2_10.  Rat shopper 2_12 ran fine when I
loaded
> > and ran it.  But when I loaded and tried RS 2_15 I get that
message.
> > Can anyone help me?????
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sherry
> >
>

What are the chances of getting a global change for the Priority?  To
be able to set all priorities to the same.  I downloaded a shopping
list from the "database on Handy-shopper" and need to reset all the
priorities.  I really don't want to reset 2,816 items one by one.

Also, is it possible to get a report that allows a given store,
example Walmart, single space sorted by aisle, that only displays the
description, aisle, units, price?

What are the possibilities of allowing user reports in the future?
Just curious.

I think this is a great program and am very pleased with it.

Thanks
Sherry

Try downloading IconList.TPS from the files section here, and use it
to replace the file with the same name on your system.

Also check if there is a sub-directoy ICONS with around 80 files in it.

--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, "sjslinky" <sjslinky@...> wrote:
>
> I get the following Error message when trying to run Rat Shopper 2_15:
>
> "File IconList could not be opened.  Error Invalid Record Declaration
> (47), press OK to end this application."
>
> So, there is no alternative but to press OK and it ends the
> application, so I am having problems.
>
> I can run rat shopper 2_10.  Rat shopper 2_12 ran fine when I loaded
> and ran it.  But when I loaded and tried RS 2_15 I get that message.
> Can anyone help me?????
>
> Thanks
>
> Sherry
>

I get the following Error message when trying to run Rat Shopper 2_15:

"File IconList could not be opened.  Error Invalid Record Declaration
(47), press OK to end this application."

So, there is no alternative but to press OK and it ends the
application, so I am having problems.

I can run rat shopper 2_10.  Rat shopper 2_12 ran fine when I loaded
and ran it.  But when I loaded and tried RS 2_15 I get that message.
Can anyone help me?????

Thanks

Sherry

Is the current version of Rat Shopper (2.15) compatabile with Handy
Shopper (2.9c)?

Thanks in advance,
Kurt

Hello all! Since around 1996 I have run the palm@... mailing
list which has focused on Palm PDA's. It used to be the Pilot list but they
changed the name of the product some years back. Anyhow, I can't believe it has
been 10 years. And for almost as long I have completely ignored all of the other
PDA related mailing lists and groups so I decided to check out some of the
groups here on yahoo. There are a LOT! It is amazing to me how many there are
and how much they overlap. For example there are 11 medically related PDA groups
out there!

I bought a US Robotics Pilot with 512k of RAM and then the 1M upgrade for my
first PDA. Years later I now sport a Treo 650. Every generation gets better and
better. Can't wait until they go Linux! :)

The mailing list has gotten rather quite in recent years (averaging only a few
posts per day) as it seems every one has moved over to yahoo groups. But I will
keep it going for as long as anyone uses it. If anyone prefers a real
traditional email based list over the web/yahoo based system you can subscribe
here:

http://copilotconsulting.com/mailman/listinfo/palm

But nowadays I am more interested in helping out the PDA community with my more
general PDA related wiki:

http://thepdawiki.com

where I have compiled an extensive list of PDA User Groups. The software and
hardware sections still need some filling out. You are welcome to edit the wiki
and add your favorite hardware platform or software (even if you are selling it)
to the appropriate page. You can also add your favorite yahoo group to the
mailing list page.

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I entered a recipe into the Recipes record window and went to merge
the items into HandyShopper and got the following message for each
item in the recipe:

"Field Contents Error
The value of LIS:AlarmMidi must be found in the MidiList file."

I found the MidiList but was unable to figure out just what to do to
it. How can I fix this so that I can get my recipe ingredients into my
shopping list? Thank you very much.

Judy S.

Hello

   Ratshopper is a desk top program that suppose to be compatable with the hand
held program handyshopper.  Ive not tested it yet.  I suggest you get in contact
with the person who made handy shopper.

   Good luck!

gags_garg <gags_garg@...> wrote:
   Hi

My name is Gagan Garg. I am situated in Hyderabad an working for an MNC
since 3 years. I want to expose in beta testing. Can any of you please
revert back to me that what this project is all about and how shall I
proceed to start beta testing for this??

Thanks in Advance
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The software has never made it out of Beta stage, because I never have
time to upgrade it. I know of a couple of minor bugs, but nobody ever
mentioned them, so I assume no one else ever found them.

However, it works for find almost everyone, so you should ignore the
fact it is in Beta. Any bugs you find, just post them here.


> ...since 3 years. I want to expose in beta testing. Can any of you
please
> revert back to me that what this project is all about and how shall I
> proceed to start beta testing for this??
>
> Thanks in Advance
> Gagan
>

Hi

My name is Gagan Garg. I am situated in Hyderabad an working for an MNC
since 3 years. I want to expose in beta testing. Can any of you please
revert back to me that what this project is all about and how shall I
proceed to start beta testing for this??

Thanks in Advance
Gagan

http://www.blackrat.biz/html/faq.html

Product Expiry

f you should get a product expiry message, then choose Help -> Enable
Me, follow the instructions and this message will go away.

--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, "Richard A. Kerhin"
<richkerhin@y...> wrote:
>
> I've tried running it but get a message "Your product
> has expired.  Consult your application supplier.
> 1/01/2006 - 31/12/2005"  Can anyone help?

I've tried running it but get a message "Your product
has expired.  Consult your application supplier.
1/01/2006 - 31/12/2005"  Can anyone help?




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From: "v c" <vanelinacain@...>
>  Sorry i am responding late, maybe at this time you found where
> to down load rat shopper.  here is the link:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RatShopper/

Is there really any Ratshopper Beta 2.16, VC? I only see "ratshopper_2_15.ZIP"
in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RatShopper/files/ .

I'm running Ratshopper Beta 2.12 okay.

However, copying then executing Ratshopper Beta 2.15 gave an error of "File
IconList could not be opened. Error: Invalid Record Declaration (47)".

I then tried to download "IconList.TPS" in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RatShopper/files/ , but unfortunately that gave
an error of "Document Not Found", so I'm back to using 2.12.

> steffenheer <stheeredv@...> wrote:
>> where i can download version 2.16 Beta?
>> Steffen

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Hello,

   Sorry i am responding late, maybe at this time you found where to down load
rat shopper.  here is the link:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RatShopper/

   On the Left side of the screen you should see the word FILE.  This is the spot
u find it at i am sure, i havent dl as of yet, please let me knw how it worked
out.


steffenheer <stheeredv@...> wrote:
   Hallo,

where i can download version 2.16 Beta?

Steffen








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Hallo,

where i can download version 2.16 Beta?

Steffen

This program DOES NOT run on a palm. It also does not HotSYnc.

It only passes a file to HotSync to download to the palm - so it does
not care what kind of PDA you have.

What you need to know is whether HandyShopper runs on your PDA, and
you should check with them - we are two independant developers. See
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/handyshopper/

--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, "vanelinacain" <vanelinacain@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hey yall
>
> Will this program work on on old visor???
>

Hey yall

Will this program work on on old visor???

I recntly discovered Handy Shopper and Rat Shopper. HAvent done
anything with Handy yet. I figure Id start with Rat first. Well I
loaded 2.10 and then 2.12. Not only would it not let met create
anything its also timed out. Expired.

SO I want to uninstall the whole thing and maybe start all over. I
notice I need to create something first in 2.10......

So AS I dont see the program listed in Windows Uninstall... do I just
delete the whole thing?????

How does one UNINSTALL this program???

When I do reinstall 2.10 do I need to register it? Isnt it freeware
like HAndy SHopper?

Phil

The FAQ is on the Web site under the button FAQ

The program works for a lot of people, and they love it, For a few it
just does not work. It is impossble to provide support for these
situations as the time involved to individually walk someone through
the steps to diagnose the problem is prohibitive.

I do support work in a commercial environment and the typical charge
would be several hundred dollars.

I developed the program for my own use, and decided to make it
available as a free utility, that's why it's always been labelled BETA.

--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, DebbLR <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Was this issue ever resolved?  This is very frustrating.  I also
> could not locate an FAQ file, maybe I should go find my glasses

It has never been resolved to my knowledge. My advice would be to
download and install version 2.10 (available on the "Files" page of
the Rat Shopper Yahoo groups page), then download and install version
2.12 (2.12 needs 2.10 to be installed first).

I've had no problems running 2.12, but 2.15 apparently can only be
installed by the lucky few.

--
Karen

Your software sounds great in theory.  Installing has been a
nightmare.  I have followed all instructions to many times to
count.  The FAQ which was requested does not have a step by step as
someone else on the forum asked for.  The instructions are very easy
to follow, they just do not work.

Please make me feel really stupid and show that it was as easy as
plugging in the computer.

Thanks for your support.

Debb

--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, "nickispal" <maggietwo@y...>
wrote:
> That was the problem, thank you very much.
> G.
> --- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, black_rat_software
<no_reply@y...>
> wrote:
> > First make sure that the HS2convert.exe that is in /program
> > files/black rat/software/rat shopper/ is the same one that was
> > downloaded with the version of HandyShopper that you are using.
> >
> > If that is still a problem please provide the version number of
> > HandyShopper, the version number of RatShopper and/or email the
> > HandyShopper PDB file that give the problem to
> > black.rat.software@g...
> >
> > There is a FAQ section on the web site http://www.blackrat.biz/
under
> > Rat Shopper->FAQ
> >
> > --- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, "nickispal" <maggietwo@y...>
wrote:
> > > Hi All.
> > > Is there a FAQ section here? If not, may I suggest you set one
up?
> > > I have a question that appears to have been asked repeatedly.
I didn't
> > > want to ask it again but I can't find an answer helpful to me,
sorry.
> > > I can't seem to get the import/export function to work. I have
a
> > > database on my palm I want to import into RatShopper but when
I try I
> > > get an error code 1 etc and the program shuts down. I suspect
there is
> > > an easy solution but I can't find it.
> > > Thanks for your patience.
> > > Gary

Was this issue ever resolved?  This is very frustrating.  I also
could not locate an FAQ file, maybe I should go find my glasses

--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, "lynnoakwood" <lynnoakwood@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> "RoelVanhout" <roelvanhout@y...> wrote:
> > > I get the following error:
> > >
> > > file hs2parms could not be opened.  error: invalid record
> > declaration
> > > (47).  press ok to end this application
>
> I get a similar error when I try to run 2.15, only mine is about
the
> IconList file:
>
> File IconList could not be opened. Error: Invalid Record
Declaration
> (47). Press OK to end this application
>
> (Extrapolating from the solution suggested for Roel's problem, I
did
> try simply removing the IconList file, but then I just got the
error
> File Not Found (2), which I suppose I should have expected!)
>
> I've put IconList back in place and I've reverted to version 2.12
so
> everything's working again, but  I'd love to try out the new search
> function. If you think any details of my configuration might help
you
> figure out the problem, feel free to ask.
>
> Karen

I decided to proceed with updating to the next version (2.12) even
though 2.10 wasn't working correctly and everything worked fine.
Maybe my problem had to do with the newer version of Handy Shopper,
I don't know...but I am HAPPY!  The 2.15 update was also a success.
Thanks for the great product!






--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, black_rat_software
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> It's possible you are leaving out a step.
>
> After you export, the exported name will appear in the box near the
> bottom left of the window in "Last Exported File" - you then have
to
> press the "<- Install to PDA" pink button.
>
> The reason is that 'export' just takes the active shopping list and
> creates a file on the desktop computer. It does not assume that you
> want to send that to the PDA since you could possibly be working on
> more than one shopping list and are going to do further work with
them.

No, I didn't miss that step, but I did have to manually type that
information in the box.  Above the Last Exported File box it showed
the file name and I used that file, as it was correct.

Any other ideas????

Thanks a million!



--- In RatShopper@yahoogroups.com, black_rat_software
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> It's possible you are leaving out a step.
>
> After you export, the exported name will appear in the box near the
> bottom left of the window in "Last Exported File" - you then have
to
> press the "<- Install to PDA" pink button.
>
> The reason is that 'export' just takes the active shopping list and
> creates a file on the desktop computer. It does not assume that you
> want to send that to the PDA since you could possibly be working on
> more than one shopping list and are going to do further work with
them.

It's possible you are leaving out a step.

After you export, the exported name will appear in the box near the
bottom left of the window in "Last Exported File" - you then have to
press the "<- Install to PDA" pink button.

The reason is that 'export' just takes the active shopping list and
creates a file on the desktop computer. It does not assume that you
want to send that to the PDA since you could possibly be working on
more than one shopping list and are going to do further work with them.

Hello,

I just downloaded HandyShopper v2.9c - build 7908.  I am in the process
of installing Rat Shopper now.  I have installed Rat Shopper 2.10,
deleted the hs2convert file in the Rat Shopper folder and copied the
hs2convert file from HandyShopper to the Rat Shopper folder.

I pointed Rat Shopper to my PDA backup directory and my PDB file.
Everything seemed to go smoothly...the file seemed to export as it
opened up my palmOne quick install program.  However, when I HotSync
the file it does not import any of my changes.

I have deleted ALL files and tried a fresh install but continue to have
the same problem.  I thought it had to do with the hs2convert file, but
I know I did that all correctly.

Please HELP!!!

Thanks a million.  :-)