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Re: 6" achromat   Message List  
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Re: [Refractors] Re: 6" achromat

vahe352 wrote:
>> I suggest getting the second edition of Suiter. If the inside and
>> outside patterns are different, the scope is not perfect. The star test
>> is very sensitive, so it may be close enough.
>>
>
> In certain scopes you will see a difference between inside/outside focus
patterns, all spherical Maksutovs, fast apo's are just some of the examples, I
do not consider that an indication that these scopes are not perfect but rather
this is the nature of the beast,

Vahe, in the case to which I refer on the Tak group, the one owner had a
scope which had /dramatically/ different patterns on each side, he
showed them, and all that responded said theirs did the same thing
(including many older fluorite Taks of longer focus), and that it was
normal, not to worry about it, his scope was fine.

I am only repeating what I read.

Bud





Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:57 pm

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... In the case of all spherical Maksutovs they have higher order spherical aberration, so in that sense they are not optically perfect. They may, however, be...
Alan French
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Jul 14, 2009
7:07 pm

... Vahe, in the case to which I refer on the Tak group, the one owner had a scope which had /dramatically/ different patterns on each side, he showed them,...
Bud Starison
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Jul 14, 2009
7:57 pm

... You're confusing me Tony, on the one hand you say your Tak star tests perfect, but OTOH all these other people on the Tak group say theirs does not, and...
Bud Starison
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Jul 14, 2009
7:52 pm

You didn't read the post very carefully, Bud. I said near perfect... "all but eliminated". Don't be confused, Bud. This isn't brain surgery, this is fun. Have...
Anthony Tripodi
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Jul 14, 2009
10:15 pm

... What I was referring to was the fact that your star test was no where near as skewed (or wasn't even considered off enough to be consider skewed at all!)...
Bud Starison
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Jul 15, 2009
12:50 am

A 5" at $9,000? Hell, I'd get the TOA 150 and pocket a couple hundred in change. But it makes the FS128 or the Pentax 125 look like an even better deal....
gnowellsct
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Jul 14, 2009
12:36 am

While I feel that Vic makes great scopes - based on the posts from his group, I don't consider his pricing or products - leading edge in either price or...
Warp
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Jul 13, 2009
10:58 pm

Agreed, Warp, 100%. Doug ... -- Doug Truckstop Astronomer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Doug
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Jul 13, 2009
10:59 pm

... I think your estimate of 99.90% is way off, and there is a way we can find out. Clear skies, Alan...
Alan French
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Jul 13, 2009
11:04 pm

All I know... is that at the last 3 public gatherings I was at... there were an assortment of bigger and more expensive scopes including a 12 foot long D&G -...
Warp
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Jul 13, 2009
11:22 pm

Hey, Not to argue the point, but the ES website describes that 127's objective as containing a Hoya ED element and call the scope "...an air-spaced triplet ED...
Perry Holcomb
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Astro-Physics, Takahashi, Telescope Engineering Company, APM, Tele Vue, and many others offer ED APO refractors. John C....
John
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Jul 14, 2009
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Terminology is a source of mystery to me. My Vixen f/6.5 SS102 I am content to call an ED doublet. And it proclaims itself ED in big letters on the dew...
gnowellsct
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Many refractors were sold as APO fifteen years ago that probably wouldn't be so labeled if sold today. My FS-128 is one, and my 178ED is another. Early...
John
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Jul 14, 2009
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As you probably know, ED stands for Extra-low Dispersion. Any modern apochromat almost certainly uses an ED element, either fluorite or a fluorcrown. Some...
Alan French
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Jul 14, 2009
12:27 am

... Does anyone know what kind of glass that Hoya element equates to in the Schott catalog? ... There are all kinds of "apos" out there, just throw 3 lenses in...
Bud Starison
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Jul 14, 2009
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Most likley because they are not experienced enough to know what is going on?  On one side of focus you are looking through turbulent air and the other side...
chris provost
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Jul 14, 2009
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... That's what I thought Chris, but you sure could fool them! Many reported really skewed star tests and ain't the least bit phased by it all. I think Rod...
Bud Starison
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Jul 14, 2009
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I agree there are all kinds of "apos" out there.  As you know though they can and most likely will fail to meet the debated definition of an apo though.  The...
chris provost
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Jul 14, 2009
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Hey, Didn't the Tak Sky 90 II have problems holding collimation?  Or were those folks just lyin'?  Or was I jus hallooseinatin' from hittin' the coolaide? ...
Perry Holcomb
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Jul 14, 2009
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Warp: While your comments are interesting, I have to say that comparing a SV or TV with "Explore Scientific" is not fair - I highly doubt that many of these...
Darren Hennig
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Jul 14, 2009
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If I think it through when I say an 8" apo is not cost effective it is a purely personal declaration of what size apertures I would like to have and what I'm...
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