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2827 Keith Collyer
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Dec 1, 2010
11:17 am
I would like to point all people in this thread towards the classic paper "A Rational Design Process, How and Why to Fake It" by David Parnas and Paul...
2828 ajmarkos@...
ajmarkos Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2010
3:22 pm
Putcha:   I my opinion, learning projects involving small systems can not teach what is really important.   Best example:  proper...
2829 ajmarkos@...
ajmarkos Offline Send Email
Dec 1, 2010
3:32 pm
Putcha:   You ask the $64,000 question: "If people like you (I hope most of RE Group) believe strongly that BA & RE must be separated from Design as far as...
2830 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 1, 2010
4:03 pm
Keith, I totally agree about the "Rational Design Process", one of the greatest technical articles ever written in the SW Engineering field. One of the...
2831 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 1, 2010
4:25 pm
Putcha, I think that it is interesting to look back at the history of how Use Cases got to be considered to be OO when they clearly are not. Grady Booch, one...
2832 Jerry Zhu
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Dec 1, 2010
10:16 pm
Tony,   ________________________________ From: "ajmarkos@..." <ajmarkos@...> To: Donald Firesmith <dgf@...>;...
2833 Roger L. Cauvin
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Dec 1, 2010
10:38 pm
... This is one of many examples of people who think they are doing requirements but are in fact documenting architectural decisions. Bank cards and PINs are...
2834 Ashley at Metamaxim
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Dec 1, 2010
11:45 pm
Hi Sometimes it is difficult to determine what is "requirement" and what is "design" (or "an architectural decision"). Here is one perspective on why this: 1....
2835 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 2, 2010
3:29 am
Roger, I am not sure that I totally follow your reasoning with regard to authentication. Identification is about who you claim to be and authentication is...
2836 Putcha V. Narasimham
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Dec 2, 2010
5:53 am
Dear Don, Roger, Members / co-professionals and friends:   The point made by Roger (in the post and his blog) and the explanation given by Don are very...
2837 Putcha V. Narasimham
putchavn Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2010
7:15 am
   Don and Tony and Members of RE Group and those under Cc.   Good points--"Requirements Engineering is NOT a phase unless you decide to do strict...
2838 Putcha V. Narasimham
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Dec 2, 2010
7:25 am
Thanks DON:    We learn that "WHOLE > SUM OF PARTS". With Three Amegos and RUP UML upto 2.0 , it seems "WHOLE < ANY PART". Yet we can MAKE MOST OF UML with...
2839 Keith Collyer
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Dec 2, 2010
11:59 am
Donald, Absolutely right! Now, you are at an academic institution - what are you going to do about it? ;-) There are a few places offering Requirements ...
2840 Putcha V. Narasimham
putchavn Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2010
1:07 pm
A Rational Design Process. I have browsed through it before and I have done it again.  The process is too long.  Is there a usable summary that can be taught...
2841 Jerry Zhu
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Dec 2, 2010
1:08 pm
Don/Keith, I met a UVA CS professor who said requirements problem is the hardest and there a weathy literature to draw upon. His name is John Knight. Search...
2842 Huet
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Dec 2, 2010
1:52 pm
Don, I agree - I've used a very similar approach successfully with several teams, both waterfall and agile. Some minor variations: Step 2 - I have found it...
2843 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 2, 2010
2:20 pm
Putcha, There is no single standard repository of reusable requirements, and I doubt that there ever will or even can be. Most reusable requirements must be...
2844 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 2, 2010
2:50 pm
Keith, You point out an interesting point. Here I am, with a fairly low impression of academia in general in terms of the practicality of what is often taught,...
2845 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 2, 2010
2:55 pm
Putcha, You may have a misunderstanding as to what we meant. At least it sounds so from your comments. The paper "A Rational Design Process, How and Why to...
2846 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 2, 2010
3:14 pm
Jerry, When I used to lead requirements teams, I would typically include full-time 3-6 members as well as include domain experts and stakeholders on an as...
2847 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 2, 2010
3:32 pm
Huet, Good points. Like any process description, it is a simplification and variations are often useful. There is also a lot of overlap due to iterative,...
2848 Jerry Zhu
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Dec 2, 2010
6:23 pm
Don, Do you require requirements engineers any domain knowledge in your team? Since you have domain experts that have all the domain knowledge needed, do you...
2849 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 2, 2010
9:30 pm
Jerry, Requirements engineers are far more effective if they have some domain experience. But they will pick it up if they work close enough with the...
2850 Ashley at Metamaxim
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Dec 2, 2010
10:04 pm
Hi I also have worked in many domains over my career. Having domain knowledge is useful, but the crucial thing is being able to *learn fast*. The business...
2851 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 2, 2010
10:20 pm
Ashley, Very true. It is also a fun part of being an RE. Constant learning and lack of boring repetition. In fact, I start a new project today in a new...
2852 Jerry Zhu
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Dec 2, 2010
10:39 pm
I am not convinced by Don and Ashley. This is from the perspective of Don and Ashley, that is to get a job and learn. But from employers' perspective they ...
2853 Remy Fannader
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Dec 2, 2010
11:39 pm
I find this thread a bit confusing ... First, Parnas & al were dealing with software engineering, which is not the same as system engineering. The former has...
2854 remyfannader Offline Send Email Dec 2, 2010
11:40 pm
I will try to go against the wind ... Whereas Parnas & al article is indeed pivotal, it deals with software engineering, not with system engineering. As I see...
2855 remyfannader Offline Send Email Dec 2, 2010
11:40 pm
That points to a basic flaw with the way UML describes actors as the source of interaction, namely the confusion between agents and roles. It's logically not...
2856 Donald Firesmith
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Dec 3, 2010
3:51 am
Many of the lessons learned over the last 20 years in software engineering apply equally to systems engineering, either as is or with some modifications. In...
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