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Re: [RoboBricks2] Re: Interfacing WireHost to 3.3 LVTTL serial



Wayne C. Gramlich wrote:
>
>
> --- In RoboBricks2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:RoboBricks2%40yahoogroups.com>, Brandon Blodget <bbhome@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am trying to connect the on board 3.3v serial port of the
> > wrtsl54gs router to the WireHost module. I've followed the
> > instruction at
> >
> >
> http://www.hbrobotics.org/wiki/index.php5/WRTSL54GS#Using_on_board_serial_port
>
<http://www.hbrobotics.org/wiki/index.php5/WRTSL54GS#Using_on_board_serial_port>
> >
> > When I try and send serial data from the wrtsl54gs using
> > microcom my characters are echoed back to me but I don't
> > get any other data back. For example when I type "Z<enter>"
> > it echo's 'Z' and a newline but no info about the modules is
> > returned. When replacing/bipassing the MAX232 do I need to
> > pass through the DTR signal? When I use the usb2serial
> > cable connected to the router (with the MAX232 on WireHost)
> > sending commands from microcom works as expected. Any
> > suggestions?
>
> Brandon:
>
> I have not posted a circuit the WireHost conversion.
> The longer term solution is to use a newly designed
> module called SerialHost1, which I am just about ready
> to send off to manufacture.
>

On the subject of hosts -- one thing I am excited to play with but
haven't had a chance, is the Atmel AT90USBKEY development board. This
board is $36 at Digi-Key. It has an AT90USB processor, some on-board
dataflash, misc switches and LED's, and the rest of the I/O broken out.
It has a USB-On-The-Go connector, so it can be either a USB host *or*
device. Dean Camera has written a project with GPL'ed USB class drivers
for a bunch of useful devices. See:

http://www.fourwalledcubicle.com/MyUSB.php

There is a broken-out serial port on the AT90USBKEY. I'm thinking a
nice RoboBricks2 host interface could be built by attaching a CAN
transceiver as a small daughter board. You could not only interface
your robot as a USB device, but since it has an OTG connector you could
plug in a keyboard, joystick, or other standard peripheral.

And... since it comes factory pre-programmed with a bootloader, you
don't need to buy a development system. All you need is the avr-gcc
tool chain. (Of course, without at ICE you have to do all your
debugging with 4 LED's). I'm not sure, but I think a Dragon can debug
in the first 32K of program flash on the AT90USB, but you should double
check.

-dave



Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:43 pm

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Hi all, I am trying to connect the on board 3.3v serial port of the wrtsl54gs router to the WireHost module. I've followed the instruction at ...
Brandon Blodget
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Feb 25, 2008
6:29 pm

... http://www.hbrobotics.org/wiki/index.php5/WRTSL54GS#Using_on_board_serial_port ... Brandon: I have not posted a circuit the WireHost conversion. The longer...
Wayne C. Gramlich
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Feb 25, 2008
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... On the subject of hosts -- one thing I am excited to play with but haven't had a chance, is the Atmel AT90USBKEY development board. This board is $36 at...
Dave Curtis
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Feb 25, 2008
8:43 pm

Dave (Curtis): The AT90USBKEY is a neat and inexpensive board. ... I just checked, it seems to be $31.92 at Digi-Key. ... My further comments are: 1) The...
Wayne C. Gramlich
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Feb 25, 2008
10:47 pm

... Bonus! Its gone down. ... That's worth checking. I've heard that the Dragon can debug up to the first 32K on the larger processors, so you just have to...
Dave Curtis
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Feb 25, 2008
11:27 pm

... [snip price] [snip AVR-Dragon issue] ... I do not have one yet. [snip .050" x .100" connectors issue] ... Actually, it can be touch and go. It depends...
Wayne C. Gramlich
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Feb 26, 2008
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... <much snippage> ... Yes, I wasn't thinking about these being through-hole pads. So maybe a smallish pad, and don't try to route between them. ... Well, at...
Dave Curtis
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Feb 26, 2008
4:33 am

Wayne, The ATJTAGICE2 at $300 is a bit pricey. But I just ordered 3 of the AT90USBKEY boards. I can help out with the software and if I really need to...
Stephen Olsen
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Mar 6, 2008
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... The guy at <http://www.fourwalledcubicle.com/MyUSB.php> claims that his library is in stable condition. If it really is stable, all that should be...
Wayne C. Gramlich
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Mar 6, 2008
1:07 am

... Yes, I do. So if you get stuck, let me know. As you say, once the CDC driver is up you can define an endpoint for stderr and get a lot of debug done that...
Dave Curtis
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Mar 6, 2008
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Dave and Wayne, So far, so good as the tools installed seamlessly and MyUSB downloaded and extracted without a problem. The "make all" build after a "make...
Stephen Olsen
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Mar 7, 2008
7:59 pm

... It sounds reasonably robust, but does USB need that level of complexity? I honestly do not know. All I need from the AVRUSB is a USB stack that can talk...
Wayne C. Gramlich
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Mar 8, 2008
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Wayne, ... Your question about USB's complexity is a common question. Most people think of it as a gloified serial port. Which it is but it does have a lot...
Stephen Olsen
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Mar 16, 2008
5:49 am

... Having a scheduler still seems a little complex to me, but it is probably a simple scheduler. ... And presumably it worked. ... Configuring up the AVR UART...
Wayne C. Gramlich
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Mar 16, 2008
12:11 pm

... Hi Wayne, Thanks for the additional information. I still have not got this working yet. One thing that is a little confusing to me is that above you say ...
Brandon Blodget
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Feb 25, 2008
11:47 pm

... You are correct, that is a typo on my part. ... For revision C of WireHost, pin 11 and pin 15 are connected to ground. Other things to check are whether...
Wayne C. Gramlich
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Feb 26, 2008
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... That is interesting. I have rev C but no connectivity between pin 11 and pin 15. I've jumped the two together now. ... Changing the baud rate in microcom...
Brandon Blodget
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Feb 26, 2008
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... Perhaps a manufacturing defect? It is not something that I would easily detect, since that buffer of the Max232 is not used (i.e. pin 14 is NC.) ... ...
Wayne C. Gramlich
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Feb 26, 2008
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So some good news. I can now talk to WireHost from the router using both on board serial ports! To get /dev/tts/0 to work I have to boot the router first then...
Brandon Blodget
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Feb 27, 2008
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... Argh! I knew that and I did not write it down! We have to plug and unplug it as well. I have no idea why. ... I did not know to set the IRQ. That works...
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