Bob, Of course, I read the posting that you provided. My niece happens to be in an MD program involving surgery at Brown University. She is now spending a...
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Firing people often delays attacking the basic underlying factors. Take care, Â Bill Corcoran Mission: Saving lives, pain, assets, and careers through...
And they never fire anyone high enough up the food chain. Either the senior management did not know but should have or did know and did not do anything about...
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Nov 4, 2009 5:51 pm
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I do not know exactly where this facility is, but in the rural hospitals where there is no competition, the community has a sole-source hospital. They do not...
Even the people who thought he had it coming are frequently wrong. Take care,  Bill Corcoran Mission: Saving lives, pain, assets, and careers through...
Bob, I just left you a phone message about this, but my CT hospital was clearly rural. It was 10 miles away, but the next closest three hospitals were 40...
If a medical practitioner makes a serious medical error that costs someone their life, why should they still have a job? But it does happen from time to time....
It my experience with the Workers' Compensation system, that negligent doctors are denied surgery rights at the involved hospital, but they move to another...
Mike, Are you the guy practicing medical RCA in Fort Collins, Colorado? If you are, then until now, I lost track of you. That is where I earned my two...
Bill, Your statement is very timely. We've changed contracts and presidents, so ... it's time to see the new hierarchy. Your statement and preparing for my...
Bruce, I believe your statement is very good as far as it goes. I believe that premature discipline also has an effect on the on going organization and culture...
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Nov 5, 2009 12:24 pm
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Bruce, Â To whom should I credit the quotation? Â Here's my quotable: "Surgery before diagnosis is malpractice." Take care, Â Bill Corcoran Mission: Saving...
How about the old saw, "Ready!, Fire!, Aim!" Where fire is an HR term. ________________________________ From: Root_Cause_State_of_the_Practice@yahoogroups.com...
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Nov 5, 2009 1:19 pm
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The thing I’ve found is that when people understand why you are doing what you are doing, such as always conforming patient name & patient procedure, then...
Jack, I am in Fort Worth, Texas. I am not involved with the medical community. I am a corporate safety manager for a a large, national retailer, although I...
Bruce, Â Thanks. Â If I had a chance to say it over I'd say: Â "Disciplining people involved in an event before identifying and understanding all the...
Bill, Nice improvement. Has a good flow and is better substantively. Give yourself credit, because I'm going to quote you when I meet our senior management...
Bill C and Bruce, On the other hand, disciplining is less effective when it is not done soon after the event that triggered it. Where does that leave us? Bill...
Bill Salot, Â You are correct. Â The longer the consequence is delayed after the behavior the less effect it has. Â For feedback to be effective it must be...
Three points, One, if the discipline is termination it is just as effective whenever it is done. Two, the investigation needs to be done quickly. Three, I...
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Nov 6, 2009 6:24 pm
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Tedd, Well said! Would you advocate putting a person on notice of possible discipline action pending completion of the investigation? Bill Salot ...
Bill, I concur that normally consequences are more effective when imposed close to the involved behavior. However, that said, it seems to me that there must be...
Bill, That would depend on the circumstances I think. On the one hand you do not want to appear to be biased but if some discipline, is very likely, then...
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Nov 6, 2009 6:48 pm
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Ted, Two emails ago you had a third point that could/should have been added to your 2 points below. You wrote: Three, I believe fair discipline applied after...
(Tried to send earlier, but used wrong sending address for Yahoo subscription.) Tedd, Good points. I will use them. Regarding loss of effectiveness, I believe...
B Hart
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Nov 6, 2009 7:50 pm
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Bruce, I agree. The who is implied in the what but much better to be clear. In fact it is likely more important to officially answer the who question than any...
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Nov 6, 2009 8:18 pm
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I would advocate putting a person or people on different non safety related job assignments as the investignation and potential prosecution continued....
In a fair culture, if you punish a person for a certain behavior or inaction you need to punish all those who set him up for it and all those who tolerated or...
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