I'm not certain what we're going to build. It's
liable to be some sort of virus zapper in a black-box
type of thing. <br><br>BTW- the Tesla Museum in
Belgrade is once again back on-line. Many bombs have to
fall for Belgrade to lose power for any length of
time. Hopefully, nobody will bomb the core of their
nuclear station.

ssembling an electronic device??? If only I weren't in Detroit; it's along
drive. You have piqued my interest, however. What is the "device", if I may ask?

e blew up the Nikola Tesla Power Station, a coal
burning power plant located somewhere in Yugoslavia, the
other day. Electricity went off in Belgrade, only to be
restored last Monday.<br><br>Links to computers in
Yugoslavia suffered this time around. Access to the Nikola
Tesla Museum web site has been suspended for the
moment.<br><br>Go ahead, Give 'em a
try:<br><a href=http://www.yurope.com/org/tesla/uvode.htm
target=new>http://www.yurope.com/org/tesla/uvode.htm</a>

n a back-by-popular-demand, return visit Hummux
will be our guest speaker.<br><br>Also, we will be
assembling an electronic device. ...fun!<br><br>This is
going to be something to figure out how to have our
on-line "Remote Members" build one of these. The 'Photos'
only allow .CGI and .GIF, so I'll have to come up with
some way to scan the schematics that way.

e like to keep this open to the
public...nationally or internationally.<br><br>the big concern right
now is what is to become of the primary repository of
Tesla, mainly his museum in Belgrade.<br><br>feel free
to try to like to it:<br>(see the links)<br><br>or
perhaps our consciousness information caught your
attention:<br><a href=http://www.hia.com/pcr/test1.html
target=new>http://www.hia.com/pcr/test1.html</a>

hope no one minds but i am a non sf resident
and i joined your club. i am always looking for
interesting people and info to have in reach. if there is a
problem please let me know and ill remove myself from the
club<br><br>thanx<br>ashtar78_69

hur. 13 May 1999 <br><br>SLAC *SPECIAL*
DEPARTMENTAL COLLOQUIUM<br>Gerard 't Hooft, Utrecht U<br>The
Holographic Principle<br>SLAC, Auditorium,
(Refreshments-3:45), *NOTE DAY! - 4:15 pm<br><br><br>Wed. 12 May 1999
<br><br>SLAC WEDNESDAY THEORY SEMINAR<br>Thomas Appelquist,
Yale U<br>A Thermal Constraint on Strongly Coupled
Gauge Theories<br>SLAC, Green Room - 1:30
pm<br><br><br>Tues. 11 May 1999 <br><br>STANFORD APPLIED
PHYSICS/PHYSICS DEPT COLLOQUIUM<br>Subir Sachdev, Yale
U<br>Quantum Phase Transitions in Antiferromagnets and
Superfluids<br>Stanford, SEQ Teaching Ctr 201,<br>(Refreshments-3:45/,
Physics Coffee Rm) - 4:15pm

riday, May 14, 1999<br><br>"Can Computers
Think?"<br><br>Speakers:<br>Robert E. Horn, Visiting Scholar, Center for the
Study
of Language and Information, Stanford<br>Russell
McBride, Instructor in Philosophy, Alameda
College<br><br>Abstract:<br>One of the great debates of the last 50 years has
been over the question Turing asked in his 1950 paper
in "Mind: Will computers ever be able to think?"
Recently, eminent computer scientist Ray Kurzweil has
speculated in his book, "The Age of Spiritual Machines",
that computers would surpass human intelligence by
2050, that they would become conscious, and, hence
even, "spiritual." "Once a computer achieves a human
level of intelligence, it will necessarily roar past
it," he says. The debate is important because it
focuses on the fundamental question of human identity.
And, as a result of these advances in computer
intelligence, says Kurzweil: "The primary political and
philosophical issue of the next century will be the definition
of who we are." Where does that debate stand now?
What does the history of that debate say about these
claims? What are the criteria throughout the debate for
what counts as a thinking computer? These are
questions the presentation will address.<br><br>Horn &
McBride have just finished developing the "Mapping Great
Debates: Can Computers Think?" series of argumentation
maps. These seven (3 x 4 foot) maps trace over 800
arguments, rebuttals, and counterrebuttals in the Turing
debate by over 400 scholars worldwide. One of the seven
maps is devoted to the question: Do Machines have to
be Conscious in Order to Think? They have recently
started another arugmentation mapping project in the area
of consciousness studies under one of the U. of AZ
grants. Our speakers will reflect on the se issues from
the perspective of their mapping project and identify
the hot spots in the forthcoming
debate.<br><br>References:<br>1. Horn, R.; et al. "Mapping Great Debates: Can
Computer Think?"<br>Seven maps and handbook, Brainbridge,
Washington, Macro VU Inc., 1998. &lt; <a href=http://www.macrovu.com
target=new>http://www.macrovu.com</a>
&gt;<br><br>For directions, please
visit:<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/freelecture
target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/freelecture</a><br><br>Select Msg. #00

ues. 27 April 1999 <br><br>SLAC EXPERIMENTAL
SEMINAR<br>Sal Fahey, U of Colorado<br>Recent Electroweak
Results from SLD<br>SLAC, Orange Room - 12:30
pm<br><br>Tues. 27 April 1999 <br><br>SLAC RADIATION PHYSICS/ES&H
DIVISION SEMINAR<br>Ed Benton, U of San Francisco<br>Space
Radiation: Environment and Measurements on Manned and
Un-Manned Spacecrafts<br>SLAC, Orange Room,
(Refreshments-3:45) - 4:00pm<br><br><br><br>Tues. 27 April 1999
<br><br>STANFORD APPLIED PHYSICS/PHYSICS DEPT COLLOQUIUM<br>Lenny
Susskind, Stanford U<br>String Theory, Black Holes and
Holographic Principles<br>Stanford, SEQ Teaching Ctr
201,<br>(Refreshments-3:45/, Physics Coffee Rm) - 4:15 pm<br><br><br>Wed. 28
April 1999 <br><br>SLAC WEDNESDAY THEORY
SEMINAR<br>Nemanja Kaloper, Stanford U<br>Early Universe Cosmology
in Theories with Sub-Millimeter Dimensions<br>SLAC,
Green Room - 1:30 pm

ues. 27 April 1999 <br><br>SLAC EXPERIMENTAL
SEMINAR<br>Sal Fahey, U of Colorado<br>Recent Electroweak
Results from SLD<br>SLAC, Orange Room - 12:30
pm<br><br>Tues. 27 April 1999 <br><br>SLAC RADIATION PHYSICS/ES&H
DIVISION SEMINAR<br>Ed Benton, U of San Francisco<br>Space
Radiation: Environment and Measurements on Manned and
Un-Manned Spacecrafts<br>SLAC, Orange Room,
(Refreshments-3:45) - 4:00pm<br><br><br><br>Tues. 27 April 1999
<br><br>STANFORD APPLIED PHYSICS/PHYSICS DEPT COLLOQUIUM<br>Lenny
Susskind, Stanford U<br>String Theory, Black Holes and
Holographic Principles<br>Stanford, SEQ Teaching Ctr
201,<br>(Refreshments-3:45/, Physics Coffee Rm) - 4:15 pm<br><br><br>Wed. 28
April 1999 <br><br>SLAC WEDNESDAY THEORY
SEMINAR<br>Nemanja Kaloper, Stanford U<br>Early Universe Cosmology
in Theories with Sub-Millimeter Dimensions<br>SLAC,
Green Room - 1:30 pm

ook for information on George Westinghouse. He
was a friend and sponsor of Tesla's and Tesla built
the Niagara Falls plant for the Westinghouse
corporation. Also read up on Edison. Tesla worked for him and
introduced him to AC. Edison fought the idea very publicly
for years because he had so much money tied up in DC.
He and Tesla were enemies for years thereafter.

he San Francisco<br> Tesla Society<br><br>
presents a free lecture<br><br> "The Mind of God" <br><br>
explained by <br> Jack Sarfatti, Ph.D.<br><br> Sunday, May
9, 1999 1:15 p.m.<br> at 3220 Sacramento Street
(near Lyon)<br> San Francisco, California<br><br>Why
are we doing this? We are heading toward Penrose's
tensor<br>tetrad – spinor qu-bit connection, and with that, my
post-quantum<br>matter-mind connection between the explicate material
universe<br>of expanding accelerating 3D space and the implicate
quantum<br>Jungian collective unconscious mental information order
of "pre-<br>geometry" AKA "funda-MENTAL space"
(Hameroff). We will also<br>get to Shipov's construction of
matter in the explicate order from<br>the rotational
torsion inertial tensor fields and how they, in
turn,<br>emerge from the implicate mental spinor order. Finally,
we want<br>to see how back-reaction from the
material tensor fields to their<br>pilot mental spinor
fields generates conscious experiences in
the<br>pregeometry that is Hawking's "Mind of
God".<br><br>References:<br><br> <a href=http://qedcorp.com/book/bigtest.html
target=new>http://qedcorp.com/book/bigtest.html</a><br>
<a href=http://qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html
target=new>http://qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html</a><br>
<a href=http://www.hia.com/pcr/vigier/slides/Vigier.HTM
target=new>http://www.hia.com/pcr/vigier/slides/Vigier.HTM</a><br> <a
href=http://qedcorp.com/book/index.htm
target=new>http://qedcorp.com/book/index.htm</a><br><br>Notes -
Dr. Sarfatti will also include a performance of
Tom<br>Lehrer's "The Professor's Song", the lyrics of which are
below<br><br>There will be a brief Tesla Society organizational
meeting at <br>1 p.m. before Dr. Sarfatti's lecture. All
are invited to participate. <br><br>PLEASE MARK YOUR
CALENDAR. The San Francisco Tesla<br>Society will present
another free lecture on SUNDAY, JUNE 13 at<br>the same
time and location <br><br>For Tesla Society
information online, try <br><br>
<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/sfteslasociety
target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/sfteslasociety</a><br><br>and don't miss
the Tesla Museum at<br><br>
<a href=http://www.yurope.com/org/tesla/uvode.htm
target=new>http://www.yurope.com/org/tesla/uvode.htm</a><br><br>----------------\
------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>\
Tom Lehrer's - The Professor's Song<br><br><br>Music:
"If You Give Me Your Attention"<br>from Princess Ida
(Gilbert & Sullivan)<br><br><br>"If you give me your
attention I will tell you what I am.<br>I'm a genius and a
physicist (and something of a ham).<br>I have tried for
numerous degrees, in fact, I've one of each,<br>Of course,
that makes me eminently qualified to teach.<br>I
understand the subject matter thoroughly, it's true,<br>And
I can't see why it isn't all as obvious to
you.<br>My lectures all are masterpieces, excellently
planned,<br>Yet everybody tells me that I'm hard to
understand,<br>And I can't think why!<br><br>My diagrams are models
of true art; you must agree,<br>And my handwriting
is famous for its legibility;<br>When I write
"gravitation", say, or any other word,<br>For anyone to say he
cannot read it is absurd.<br>My demonstrations all get
more amazing, every year,<br>Though, frankly, what
they go to prove is sometimes less than clear.<br>And
all my explanations are quite lucid, I am
sure,<br>Yet everybody tells me 'that my lectures are
obscure.<br>And I can't think why!"

ast November, the society's president was
involved with a two-day, weekend seminar series dealing
with the topic of consciousness. The organization
hosting the conference held in Berkeley, Ca. has a
website containing further information about related
matters (clickable) on <a href=http://www.bacn.org
target=new>http://www.bacn.org</a>
.<br><br><br>To order audio
cassettes:<br><a href=http://www.bacn.org/wren.html
target=new>http://www.bacn.org/wren.html</a><br><br>To order video
tapes:<br><a href=http://www.bacn.org/gavegin.html
target=new>http://www.bacn.org/gavegin.html</a>

imply by clicking on the URL link
below,<br>anyone with a color terminal or printer can keep track
of plots that are made by an on-line
website.<br><br>A typical day shows mostly flat or horizontal lines
indicating no variations.<br><br>Events, such as solar
activity or man-made electromagnetic devices (usually of
intense power), will affect the field around the earth.
As a result, the plot will reflect these
events.<br><br>Thus, an instantaneous event--a powerful pulse or
strong transmitter being turned on--will show up as
peaked vertical(-ish) lines. Slower changes, like from
the Sun or far away magnetic storms the earth should
encounter and pass through are normally weak, but "large"
and hence, cause longer-lasting dips and sags in the
chart.<br><br>Note: the black line, which shows the vertical
intensity component (fields are 3-D), tends to be affected
by on-coming energy (bursts). <br><br>Standard Daily
Chart:<br><br><a href=http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/cgi.mg.fcgi
target=new>http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/cgi.mg.fcgi</a>

riday, April 9, the Consciousness & Science
discussion group sponsored by <a href=http://www.bvinst.edu
target=new>http://www.bvinst.edu</a> will
present a talk by Edward MacKinnon, CSUH Professor of
Philosophy.<br><br> Abstract: Niels Bohr was the dominant figure in
the mid-1920s discussions that<br> led to the
Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. He insisted
that<br> the developments in quantum physics necessitated
a rethinking of the<br> subject-object distinction.
His emphasis on the subjective nature of all<br>
experience and the significance this has for quantum
mechanics stimulated two<br> opposing developments. John
von Neumann, London and Bauer, and<br> expecially
Eugene Wigner have attributed to the consciousness of
the subject a<br> decisive role in the notorious
problem of making determinate measurements<br> possible.
In opposition Karl Popper, Mario Bunge and other
philosophers<br> have insisted that any such emphasis violates the
objectivity proper to physics.<br><br> At present, there are
sustained efforts to replace the Bohrian measurement<br>
interpretation of quantum mechanics by newer accounts, such as
decoherence<br> or consistent histories. Here the old
subject-object distinction reappears in new<br> guises.
Gell-Mann and Hartle insist that acceptable new
interpretations of<br> quantum mechanics must accommodate the
emergence of complex adaptive<br> systems including IGUSES,
Information Gathering and Utilizing Systems. In<br> Steven
Weinberg's version of strong reductionism ultimate
quantum<br> explanations need not treat such emergent
properties.<br><br> The talk will focus on clarifying the role of
conflicting presuppositions behind<br> the different
posititons.<br><br> For more detailed directions to the event, please
see<br> <a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/freelecture
target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/freelecture</a>

am a student needing some help<br>can someone
tell me when and where tesla got the idea for the AC
motor. when did he get the patent for it, when and where
the first AC power plant was built.what the
electricity was used for.<br><br>its hard for me to find this
information i will tell u what i have come up with<br>he got
the idea for AC 1882.<br>1887 he applied for and got
the patents for it<br>born 1856 in smiljan
croation<br>the first AC induction plant was built at niagra
falls<br>source of RME was the water fall<br>it supplied local
industries with power and buffalo NY <br>if anyone can add
to this please do or if i have anything wrong please
feel me in ....

ot because of 70-cents higher gas prices; not
because of any wars; not because of tax deadlines; not
even because of HAARP....<br><br>The Tesla Society
will not be having a meeting in the month of
April.<br><br>Log back on in May to check our schedule. Thanks.

ll this week, tests originating at the infamous
HAARP site have been taking place.<br><br>Starting to
today, new, more mundane, public "listening tests" will
commence (for
HAMsters).<br><br><a href=http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html
target=new>http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html</a>

SAP '99 - The Sixth Annual Workshop on Adaptive
Sensor Array Processing - 10-12 March 1999, Lincoln
Laboratory,<br> Massachusetts Institute of Technology (not a
NUWC-sponsored web site). <br><br> ICTCA '99 - Fourth
International Conference on Theoretical And Computational
Acoustics - Stazione Marittima, Trieste, Italy, May<br>
10-14, 1999 <br><br> UDT Europe 99 Conference . Nice,
France, 29 June through 1 July 1999. In addition, a NATO
confidential classified conference will be<br> held on Friday,
2 July 1999 at CIN St Mandrier, near Toulon. For
further information about UDT Europe 99 go to the web
site or contact:<br> UDT Europe 99 Secretariat, Nexus
Information Technology, Nexus House, Swanley, Kent BR8 8HU,
UK. Tel: +44 1322 660070 Fax: +44<br> 1322 661257.
<br><br> 1999 International Conference on Information
Fusion (INFOFUSION'99). July 6 - 9, 1999, Sunnyvale,
California (not a<br> NUWC-sponsored web site). <br><br>
ASNE Symposium - Reducing Total Ownership Costs
Through Technology Management and Full Service Life Cycle
Support.<br> 14-16 September, 1999, Bloomington, Indiana (not
a NUWC-sponsored web site).

im Stanley Robinson - Author of Red Mars, Blue
Mars, and Green Mars<br>Robert Zubrin - Author of The
Case for Mars<br>Pascal Lee - Project Scientist, Mars
Arctic Research Station<br><br>What do these three
amazing people have in common?<br>They'll all be speaking
at:<br><br>***** The Final Frontiers: From the Poles to Mars
*****<br><br>A panel discussion brought to you by:<br>The Mars
Society and<br>SEDS - Students for the Exploration and
Development of Space<br><br><br>Friday, March 12<br>7-9
PM<br>Kresge Auditorium<br><br>for more information send email
to:<br>seds-owner@...

y Mark Weinraub<br><br>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - If the Mars Pathfinder had set
down on
the Red Planet billions of years ago, it may have landed on a
vastly<br>different
landscape, one that could have been able to support life, space scientists said
Thursday.<br><br>Data collected from the 1997 Pathfinder mission, as well as the
Mars Global Surveyor
project and the Viking missions of the 1970s, point to a Martian climate that
was wetter and
warmer in its past, scientists said.<br><br>Smoothed-out rocks, the rate of
erosion and the
arrangement of debris at the Pathfinder landing site are all signs that water
was present in the
past on Mars, according to an article published in the journal Science
Friday.<br><br>Study
author Matt Golombek, the chief scientist for the Mars Pathfinder project at the
Jet
Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, said although the presence of
water was likely, it
was hard to tell how much there was and how long it was there.<br><br>``If
liquid water
was stable, and that's a big if, that's what you need to form life,'' Golombek
said in a
telephone interview.<br><br>Although no one is looking for life on Mars now, to
do so would
probably require bringing Martian soil back to Earth.<br><br>The life forms
probably would have
been primitive single-celled organisms Their presence could be spotted today by
running
tests to look for a chemical signature they left behind, Golombek
said.<br><br>The fossils
of these tiny organisms would be very hard to find and were probably destroyed
in the
billions of years since Mars got colder, drier and inhospitable to
life.<br><br>But water would
have been vital for life, at least as we know it.<br><br>Evidence of water has
been
stacking up from different sources since he Viking missions landed on Mars more
than 20 years
ago. Pieces of it<br>include rocks found on Mars that seem to be very smooth
like those
found in streams and rivers on Earth, Golombek said.<br><br>Additionally, the
past rate of
erosion on Mars seems similar to erosion rates on Earth, which are dominated by
water and are
much faster than rates on the current barren climate of Mars.<br><br>The
presence of sand,
which on Earth typically forms when water breaks down rocks, is another signal
of a wetter
Martian past, the study said.<br><br>The arrangement of the debris at the
Pathfinder landing
site is comparable to debris arrangements on Earth caused by huge
floods.<br><br>Golombek
said since this ``catastrophic'' flooding on Mars, which seems to have occurred
between 1.8
billion and 3.5 billion years ago, nothing has disturbed the site, suggesting
that shortly
thereafter the Martian climate changed to its current state.<br><br>He said the
cause and exact
time of the climate change were unknown.<br><br>One of the strongest pieces of
evidence for
life having existed on Mars is a piece of meteorite found in Antarctica. NASA
scientists
think it was knocked off Mars and made it to Earth thousands of years ago, and
say it
contains evidence of tiny bacteria-like forms.<br><br>But other scientists have
attacked the
theory and say the structures and chemicals in the meteorite could have been
formed by
physical, not<br>biological, processes.<br><br>In December 1998 NASA launched an
unmanned
spacecraft on a mission to Mars to probe the planet for signs of
water.<br><br>The 1,387 pound
(629 kg) probe is due to arrive at Mars in September after a 416 million-mile
(669-million
km) voyage.<br><br>The mission is part of a 10-year effort to determine if life
existed or
still survives on the
planet.<br><br><br><br><a
href=http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/sc/story.html?s=3Dv/nm/19990304/sc/mar\
s_1.html
target=new>http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/sc/story.html?s=3Dv/nm/19990304/\
sc/mars_1.h
tml</a><br><br><br><a
href=http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/science/story.html?s=v/ap/19990304/\
sc/dopamine_pleasure_2.html
target=new>http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/science/story.html?s=v/ap/199\
90304/sc/do
pamine_

ummux, holds a Ph.D. in Physics. He worked 10
years in systems engineering on STAR WARS, studied with
Arthur Young over 20 years and taught the advanced
classes in Arthur Young's Theory of Process, at the
Institute for the Study of Consciousness. He is currently
involved with independent research and working with the
Esselen/ Ventana Wilderness Native
Americans.<br><br>Hummux will give a 2 Part Presentation afternoon March
14th, 1999 at 3220<br>Sacramento, San Francisco to the
Tesla Society and other interested parties<br>from 1:
15 PM to 4:30pm.<br><br>There will be a brief Tesla
Society business meeting starting at 1pm. If<br>you care
to be part of the voting body of the Tesla Society,
please be<br>there at 1pm.<br><br>Part 1<br>An
introduction to Arthur Young's Theory of Process and
correlation to the<br>Native American 4 Color
Mandala.<br><br>Part 2<br>Will be devoted to recent considerations
that Hummux has become aware of<br>regarding the
origins of the AIDS epidemic and the blood
electrification<br>cure.

cience News Roundup<br> <br> Please feel free to
post any information you wish to be made public about
your present experiments, questions, or interesting
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f you log on this page Feb. 16, please go
immediately to the link shown below and shown in the
'Links'.<br><br>There is an active lunar eclipse of the sun occurring
in the Southern Hemisphere right now.<br><br>Link
here--&gt;<br><br><a
href=http://www.ips.gov.au/asfc/current/16_Feb_99_Exclipse.html
target=new>http://www.ips.gov.au/asfc/current/16_Feb_99_Exclipse.html</a>

he San Francisco Tesla Society Presents a free
lecture by<br><br> Steve Bryson<br><br>"Determinism in
Quantum Mechanics Description of Reality: Many-worlds or
One Causal World?"<br><br> &<br><br> Creon
Levit<br><br>"Bohmian Quantum Mechanics"<br><br><br>Sunday, February
14, 1999<br> 1:00 p.m.<br><br>at 3220 Sacramento
Street (near Lyon)<br>San Francisco,
California<br><br>Steve Bryson and Creon Levit are scientists at NASA
Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California.
Slides and computer animations will be used to
illustrate concepts. There will be an open discussion with
the speakers after their presentations. We will
explore how recent developments in quantum mechanics are
effecting our lives. For more information, please call
(415) 931-2593.

his is a non-Tesla club lecture
announcement:<br><br>Lockheed Research Colloquium will have a public<br>talk
given by Jef Raskin, Consultant on the subject entitled
"The Coanda Effect"<br><br>Location: Lockheed
Auditorium, Bldg. 202,<br>3251 Hanover Street, Palo Alto,
Calif., U.S.A.<br><br>Refreshments 4pm; 4:15 start
time.<br><br>We all remember what Patrick Flanagan had to say
<br>about the scientist and the subject when he spoke at
our club last Easter.

nybody from the general public can post on here,
including you!<br><br>Feel free to ADD any website or
webpage links you know about that you think relate to the
famous scientist, Nikola Tesla. Just click on "Links" on
the sidebar and click on 'add'.<br><br>Thank you for
your interest. --SFTesla

e meet at 1 o'clock on Sunday, February 14, 1999, at our regular place in San
Francisco, CA, USA.<br><br>Watch here for meeting updates.

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