Good wind products are not cheap. I have seen bad ones that are cheap, and bad one's that are expensive. You could build your own ..... ...
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meltyree1
Sep 28, 2009 2:40 pm
Hi Ron, If you have been living off grid for >25 years you probably know something about charge controllers for batteries. Can you get much technical info...
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guitron45
Sep 28, 2009 7:15 pm
Not sure why the focus on charge controlers. They aren't an issue if you get a good one. My question was about the company and it's reputation vis a vis the...
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meltyree1
Sep 28, 2009 7:21 pm
Ron, Thanks for the link. At this price I think you are buying junk especially if you are planning to mount it on your roof. There has been a very large study...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Sep 28, 2009 9:36 pm
6 blade wind turbines on a roof is a sure indication that something isn't right. "Capable of producing 1000 Watts in winds over 58 MPH! Over 500 watts at only...
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guitron45
Sep 28, 2009 9:38 pm
If we get a wind system I will need some advice on power diversion beyond water heating and the best ways to deal line loss between source and loads. My home...
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Nando
nando37@...
Sep 28, 2009 10:01 pm
Ron: The use of a MX60 with a wind mill, you will need a ballast controller to insure that the generator does not produce a voltage higher than the maximum...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Sep 28, 2009 10:17 pm
The battery is the buffer. The mx-60 is the ballast controller, and a water or air element is the ballast load. You lose the MPPT function in this arrangement....
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Nando
nando37@...
Sep 28, 2009 10:21 pm
Steve: No, the ballast controller is to limit the wind mill upper voltage that the MPPT controller may not be able to control when wind is high. The ELC is...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Sep 28, 2009 10:33 pm
The MPPT controller won't see a high voltage, as the batteries won't let the voltage get too high for the controller to handle. Most battery banks are 12, 24,...
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Nando
nando37@...
Sep 28, 2009 10:45 pm
Steve: In principle you are right though, The MX60 in MPPT mode will allow the wind mill to RPM up for the MPPT to optimize itself for maximum harvesting, then...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Sep 28, 2009 10:49 pm
The MMPT function is disabled when the MX-60 is in diversion mode. MPPT is for pv apps only. Steve Spence Renewable energy and self sufficiency ...
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Nando
nando37@...
Sep 28, 2009 11:00 pm
If a diversion mode then the MX60 is just a diversion mode charger like the C 40 or C 60 -- quite cheaper than the MX60 . Wrong investment Using a "one ton...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Sep 28, 2009 11:03 pm
Correct, unless you are going for the system monitoring capability. From the Outback Mate, I have complete visibility into all production and use from the...
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David Aitcheson
kb3efs
Sep 29, 2009 12:38 am
Not in the new "Classic" from MidNite Solar. MPPT is available in "Wind" mode as well....
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David Aitcheson
kb3efs
Sep 29, 2009 12:39 am
Y'all need to bide your time and wait for the "Classic" to come out from MidNite Solar. See http://www.midnitesolar.com/video/windSymVideo.php for a sample. ...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Sep 29, 2009 12:40 am
Sorry. I was discussing the MX-60. Glad to hear the MS unit has MMPT/Wind. Steve Spence Renewable energy and self sufficiency http://www.green-trust.org ...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Sep 29, 2009 12:49 am
Nothing I have said is inaccurate. Today's equipment is much different than when I was in middle school. Steve Spence Renewable energy and self sufficiency ...
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guitron45
Sep 29, 2009 10:03 pm
... In my system the feeds from my array come in to the MX 60 first then goe to the batt. If you hit the batts first with a turbine feed why bother w/a charge...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Sep 29, 2009 10:40 pm
It's different with a wind system. You can't disconnect like you can with solar, as the turbine will self destruct. You need a diversion controller that...
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Tyree, Mel
meltyree1
Sep 30, 2009 12:50 pm
The only exception to what Steve says in the Bergey Excel 10 kW. It is designed to spin unloaded. However, most turbines either provide loads or break (=short...
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Robin Gudgel
robin@...
Oct 1, 2009 1:12 pm
David, The MX60 just doesn't do a good job at wind. It wasn't designed to do that function. We have totally different charge algorithms built in to the Classic...
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Nando
nando37@...
Oct 1, 2009 3:57 pm
Robin: Thanks for your message, many users and no users will make good use !!. You are talking about "clippers"; and for many, the definition does elude them,...
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guitron45
Oct 2, 2009 10:27 pm
I'm upgrading our pv system and will soon have a new battery bank plus the old one still functioning fine. Both will be L16 type batteries but with different a...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Oct 3, 2009 1:37 am
I tried to get across the point that the mx-60's mppt functions are not available when being used as a diversion controller. I have two mx-60's on my high...
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bobtransformer
Oct 4, 2009 1:46 pm
... Nando, CLIPPER and CLAMP mean the same thing in this case. The word "CLIP" (for us), comes from the audio world (our past life) when the audio signal...
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Nando
nando37@...
Oct 4, 2009 4:25 pm
boB: I am quite familiar with "clipper" since audio design was one of my disciplines as an Electronic Design Engineer. I was interested for many members ,...
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bobtransformer
Oct 4, 2009 11:12 pm
... And in Amateur Radio (HAM) circles, they call it "Flat Topping" I will upload a picture to the pictures area of the group in a little bit. That, with a...
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guitron45
Nov 9, 2009 2:06 pm
I have a new one still in the box. After I had it for a while someone said they were useless in a marginal wind area like where I live. Is this true? Some...
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Tyree, Mel
meltyree1
Nov 9, 2009 2:23 pm
Hi Ron, An engineering student at my University did a 1 year study of the Air X for a MSc degree. I was external examiner. He set it up on the peak of a roof...
