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Re: [Scipolicy-L] the "sentimental crap" of manned space travel?

I believe that Norman Levitt has provided just the right context for
thinking about the Columbia disaster. And I also share his suspicions
and prognoses surrounding the event. Yet, what he says raises some
rather large questions that may be worth taking up in Scipolicy –
formally or otherwise. Here are two that cut somewhat against each
other:

(1) Is it hypocritical for the scientific community to complain
about public ignorance of science, when at least some sectors of that
community – e.g. NASA? – routinely capitalize on this ignorance to
promote their own interests? Levitt’s remarks suggest that if
politicians knew more science, they would not be so overawed by manned
space missions. I agree. But wouldn’t the next best thing be for
scientists to expose each other’s snake oil more publicly – instead of
concentrating their fire on UFOists, Creationists, etc.?

(2) At the same time, the symbolism historically surrounding the
manned space program had to do with not only exploring ‘the final
frontier’ but also beating the Russians on some surrogate Cold War
battleground. This part of the story may not have been so irrational, if
it deflected interest (and resources) from actual engagement in military
conflict. Is there some scientifically respectable way of pursuing this
political angle?

Yours in discourse,

Steve


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Norman Levitt scornfully dismisses as "sentimental crap" the romance of manned space travel centered on "glamour-boy pilots." But doesn't this ignore the...
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... "Space exploration" is not a terrily good characterization of the shuttle program. What, precisely, is being explored when six or seven people are put...
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I believe that Norman Levitt has provided just the right context for thinking about the Columbia disaster. And I also share his suspicions and prognoses...
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I agree with both Fuller and Levitt. That said, let's turn our eyes from the stars above our heads to the detritus under our feet. There is an article in the...
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... We cannot afford to do everything. Is the shuttle a better investment of our limited resources than, e.g., the Supercollider? As for studying the...
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... Tim Ferris, the excellent science writer, once observed that conducting a space program with the purpose of learning how humans and other organisms ...
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... Let me say where I REALLY think some funding should go. Edmund Husserl spent his life trying to elucidate how the Galilean mathematical sciences of nature...
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... Yoour evident indignation might better be slaked by supplanting the administrations current policy on population control by one that is more concerned with...
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... This is rather like hiring the Vienna Philharmonic to come over to your house, all expenses paid, to put a CD in your player. Not exactly a wonder of...
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... Fine by me. So when do we start bombing the hell out of Saudi Arabia? NL _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps...
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and Yemen, and Kuwait, and a host of others who have done us wrong. Fred Frederick W. Stoss, M.S. (zool.), M.L.S. Biological Sciences Librarian 228-B Capen...
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