David,

Ipoiraroa was thrown out (as a demonstration of a Social Protocol)
with the garbage (message #49).

He will not be answering your post.

You wrote:

> maybe a new p2p model in and of itself is nessesary, an
> anti-spam net, if you will. could a cross-platform,
> open-standard for a shared index of spam using businesses
> thwart the efforts of unsolicited messaging?

The critical point is to realize that Openness should not necessarily
be an all encompassing attribute. Closure too, is a noble attribute,
when approriate.

The second critical point is to realize that Social Models are not,
nor should be, exclusively realisable in the protocol of the
underlying network which Supports the Social Model.

> just a thought(s)

Thank you for your post.

Peace.


--- In SocialModels4P2PNetworks@y..., Dave Perish <theperish@y...>
wrote:
> Is this a new thread topic you are trying to hint at
> ipoiraroa? Is it the aspect of Spammers in the p2p society
> you want to discuss, but have hidden it cleverly in the
> body of a spam's innermost text? I say - rightO - my
> friend, lets talk spam.
>
> open any p2p app, from krapzaa to winmx to aim to y!im.
> none of them are immune, all subject to spam in the p2p
> age. its not so much the networks that are really subject
> to spam, but the end users. but haven't we always been
> subject to unsolicited-solicitation? there hasnt been more
> than a day or two in my life when i didn't have some kind
> of junk mail weighing my mail box down, not to mention my
> mail-man's shoulders.
>
> with snailmail, however, there are actions we can take to
> eliminate junk mail. for instance, write or call the ad
> company and ask to be taken off their list (does not work
> in the case of aol junk cd's though, ive tried that, yet
> they still come once a week)
>
> with p2p, or email for that matter, there are still some
> things you can do. for one, add the spammers to an ignore
> list (fesible until list becomes 10mb+) possibly message an
> admin to report an abuse, not logic for large scale systems
> or true p2p models. i make the preposal that we, those who
> are intollerant to spam as such, ban & boycott the
> spamists. and not just ignore them, but index them as
> organizations who advocate the spam ethic.
>
> maybe a new p2p model in and of itself is nessesary, an
> anti-spam net, if you will. could a cross-platform,
> open-standard for a shared index of spam using businesses
> thwart the efforts of unsolicited messaging?
>
>
> just a thought(s)