thanks albert..i have not actually said the word murder in anything ive written..nor is the word murder in the email..so go figure!

Helen



 

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To: stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: tenerifesucculents@...
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:15:17 +0100
Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 
Dear Hellen ,
You'r right its murder !!! but this pics are turning arround the world since more than 3 years.
It is now the 4th time I'm receiving it !!
Never the less the protest can not be strong anough!!
Greetings , Albert  on Tenerife

Leroy Albert M.M.C.

Wavre (Belgium)  N  50 48' 180"      E 004 07' 392"

Collection of plants can be visited on appointment

Founder of "Cactus & Exotica Belgium"      Skype : alberttenerife

visit : http://public.fotki.com//cactusexotica        also

http://community.webshots.com/user/albleroy  and

www.flore-succulente.com   (in french only!!)

Friends on line : http://cactus-succulents.com      &   http://community.webshots.com/user/cactusgege

                      http://www.plantemania.com        &  http://www.xeroflore.net

 

 

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To: stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: littlegoose55@...
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:52:22 +0000
Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....



thank you Paul..its just so so sad :(

Helen



 

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To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: DrPaulBear@...
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:21:06 +1300
Subject: Re: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 
Helen I  agree  with you this is  bloody  murder

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This may well be the shortest length of time I've ever been a member of a group.
I joined just last week, to talk about Stapeliads.
To everyone who feels the need to reply to the highly emotive and contentious
issues posted here which have nothing to do with Stapeliads, you need to realise
that this sort of thing happens with every mailing list and group of every type.
It is a hi-jack, and I've seen it time and time again, reducing a group to pulp
and making it unusable. Hard as it may be to do so, you need to ignore these
types of messages and get back to talking about Stapeliads.

----- Original Message -----

From: Iztok Mulej

To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:52 PM

Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 

Dear group,

Please note that this forum  is dedicated to stapeliads.

Regards,

Iztok, moderator and owner of rhe group

From: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Morgan
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:27 AM
To: Stapeliads Group
Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 

thanks albert..i have not actually said the word murder in anything ive written..nor is the word murder in the email..so go figure!

Helen

 

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To: stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: tenerifesucculents@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:15:17 +0100
Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 

Dear Hellen ,
You'r right its murder !!! but this pics are turning arround the world since more than 3 years.
It is now the 4th time I'm receiving it !!
Never the less the protest can not be strong anough!!
Greetings , Albert  on Tenerife

Leroy Albert M.M.C.
Wavre (Belgium)  N  50 48' 180"      E 004 07' 392"
Collection of plants can be visited on appointment
Founder of "Cactus & Exotica Belgium"      Skype : alberttenerife
visit : http://public.fotki.com//cactusexotica       also
http://community.webshots.com/user/albleroy  and
www.flore-succulente.com   (in french only!!)
Friends on line : http://cactus-succulents.com     &   http://community.webshots.com/user/cactusgege

                      http://www.plantemania.com       &  http://www.xeroflore.net
 

 

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To: stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: littlegoose55@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:52:22 +0000
Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....



thank you Paul..its just so so sad :(

Helen

 

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To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: DrPaulBear@xtra.co.nz
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:21:06 +1300
Subject: Re: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 

Helen I  agree  with you this is  bloody  murder

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From: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Morten Ernstrand Larsen
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:59 PM
To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...Danish Reply

 

Dear Sirs,

 

As a Danish citizen I Do feel the need to reply to the pictures placed here... even though it doesn't concern Staps.

 

Denmark DOES NOT approve of these whale killings and has asked the Faeroe Islands to stop this barbaric slaughter years ago. This yearly "fiesta" on the Faeroes used to be a place where people on the islands parted the food caught. Today, however, the whales are barely eatable due to toxics. And this is NOT due to the Faeroes!!!

The slaughtering has almost stopped... guess why... and, as others mentioned,the pictures are years old.

 

The Faeroe Islands, as well as Greenland, is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, but the Faeroes do govern by them selves. Therefore I suggest, that you contact logting@logting.fo if you want to make a complaint.

 

Thanks,

 

Morten in Copenhagen, Denmark

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Iztok Mulej

To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:52 PM

Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 

Dear group,

Please note that this forum  is dedicated to stapeliads.

Regards,

Iztok, moderator and owner of rhe group

From: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Morgan
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:27 AM
To: Stapeliads Group
Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 

thanks albert..i have not actually said the word murder in anything ive written..nor is the word murder in the email..so go figure!

Helen

 

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To: stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: tenerifesucculents@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:15:17 +0100
Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 

Dear Hellen ,
You'r right its murder !!! but this pics are turning arround the world since more than 3 years.
It is now the 4th time I'm receiving it !!
Never the less the protest can not be strong anough!!
Greetings , Albert  on Tenerife

Leroy Albert M.M.C.
Wavre (Belgium)  N  50 48' 180"      E 004 07' 392"
Collection of plants can be visited on appointment
Founder of "Cactus & Exotica Belgium"      Skype : alberttenerife
visit : http://public.fotki.com//cactusexotica       also
http://community.webshots.com/user/albleroy  and
www.flore-succulente.com   (in french only!!)
Friends on line : http://cactus-succulents.com     &   http://community.webshots.com/user/cactusgege

                      http://www.plantemania.com       &  http://www.xeroflore.net
 

 

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To: stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: littlegoose55@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:52:22 +0000
Subject: RE: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....



thank you Paul..its just so so sad :(

Helen

 

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To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com
From: DrPaulBear@xtra.co.nz
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:21:06 +1300
Subject: Re: [Stapeliad] FW: World SHAME ...keep list going around the world....

 

Helen I  agree  with you this is  bloody  murder

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----- Original Message -----

From: Friederike Hübner

To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:15 AM

Subject: Re: [Stapeliad] Huernia erectiloba

 

Dear Rosemarie,

thank you for the nice pictures you sent - they are informative und not to large. But unfortunately this is not Huernia erectiloba. The corolla lobes of H. erectiloba have to be erect or somewhat incurved - but never flattish. The corona (that is the structure in the middle of the corolla tube) is creme-coloured, most plants with red margins.

Please take a look on that structures.

 

I have no idea what species your plant is - some Huenia plowesii have also those pentagonal annuli - but they don't have so many hairs inside the corolla tube - and the tube is much more distinct.

 

May be someone else has an idea????

 

best wishes

 

Friederike

 

www.asclepidarium.de

 

We are having temperatures of over 30 degrees Celsius and after the cold, wet winter we had, my Stapeliad are rejoicing!
I was lucky to be able to photograph three of them at the same time. They are (clock-wise from the top) Huernia occulta, Huernia clavigera and Huernia campanula. I received the seeds of the last one with that name but I believe it is named Huernia barbata now.
 
Thanks to everybody for all the sharing of beautiful photos and knowledge!
From Australia,
Carol


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----- Original Message -----

From: Carol Griesser

To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:48 AM

Subject: [Stapeliad] November blooms

 

We are having temperatures of over 30 degrees Celsius and after the cold, wet winter we had, my Stapeliad are rejoicing!

I was lucky to be able to photograph three of them at the same time. They are (clock-wise from the top) Huernia occulta, Huernia clavigera and Huernia campanula. I received the seeds of the last one with that name but I believe it is named Huernia barbata now.

 

Thanks to everybody for all the sharing of beautiful photos and knowledge!

From Australia,

Carol

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Dear Fanda,

the source for the plants is Exotica (Ernst Specks) a nursery in Germany.
Nurseries are as good as there seed sources are. I could ask Ernst about the
history of this plant because he's abroud now. But I know that Ernst and
Dennis de Kock exchanges plants.

Labelmixing is always possible. Nobody is perfect. But I'm convinced that
that plant on Stapeliad info are not a real Rh. macrolobum. It doesn't fit
with the decription. Yes, you are right, they are more macrolobum than
ciliatum - but neither the first nor the second species for sure.
So for me it's a hybrid - may be a natural hybrid (because of the collection
number) - that may be possible too.
But I will wait for Ernst to ask him - you will get answers in winter.

best regards


Friederike



www.asclepidarium.de
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frantisek Vesely" <veselyemail@...>
To: <Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Stapeliad] Rhytidocaulon ciliatum???


Hello,

I am not an expert for genus Rhytidocaulon, but I think the plant in the
picture is R. macrolobum, not a hybrid.

This one in the picture looks exactly like that one in the picture of Dennis
De Kock on Stapeliads.info, I hope that authors did not make any mistake,
but of course, it can happen. And besides, I think that hybrid of R.
ciliatum and R. macrolobum would like more different, than this one which is
very similar to R. macrolobum, or actually it is R. macrolobum.

I also purchased 2 plants labeled R. ciliatum from Ernst Specks this year
and it flowered like macrolobum. And among R. macrolobums I found R.
ciliatum. So it seems that someone has just mixed up labels in the nursery.
Or the seeds, yeah, they can fly :D

Best wishes,
Fanda



> ------------ Pùvodní zpráva ------------
> Od: avonia_news <avonia_news@...>
> Pøedmìt: [Stapeliad] Re: Rhytidocaulon ciliatum???
> Datum: 05.11.2009 19:56:57
> ----------------------------------------
> Many thanks for help.   Friederike,   this is a plant of Specks.   Peter


> ------------ Pùvodní zpráva ------------
> Od: Friederike Hübner <huebner@...>
> Pøedmìt: Re: [Stapeliad] Rhytidocaulon ciliatum???
> Datum: 05.11.2009 09:22:04
> ----------------------------------------
> Dear Peter,
>
> your plant is a R. macrolobum hybrid with R. ciliatum. Outer corona is
> ciliatum,
> the color of the corolla is intermediate: at the tipps ciliatum in the
> middle
> macrolobum. Hairs are again intermediate: color and form ciliatum, amount
> macrolobum.
>
> It's funny - I sold a year ago "probably sponteanous R. ciliatum-seeds" (I
> mixed
> up some seed horns). Is that a seedling from that seeds? Very interesting!
>
> The more Rhytidocaulon plants are in collection the more hybrids we will
> have -
> I have some sponteanous seed settings every year - but I throw them away
> to
> avoid hybrids.
>
> best wishes
>
> Friederike
>
>
> Lieber Peter,
>
> Deine Pflanzs ist eine R. macrolobum x ciliatum Hybride. Äußere Corona ist
> ciliatum, die Färbung der Blüte intermediär. Die Haare stehen ebenfalls
> intermediär, Farbe und Form ciliatum, Menge und Ansatz macrolobum.
>
> Ich habe letztes Jahr spontane Samen (sie waren auch so für die Käufer
> gekennzeichnet) von R. ciliatum verkauft - ich hatte bei zwei
> Samenhörnchen die
> Markierung verloren. Ist das ein Sämling davon? sehr interessant!
>
> Je mehr Rhytidocaulon-Arten in den Samlungen stehen, desto mehr Hybriden
> werden
> wir bekommen. Ich entferne jedes Jahr einige spontane Samenansätze.
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> Friederike
>
>


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----- Original Message -----

From: Carol Griesser

To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:48 AM

Subject: [Stapeliad] November blooms

We are having temperatures of over 30 degrees Celsius and after the cold, wet winter we had, my Stapeliad are rejoicing!

I was lucky to be able to photograph three of them at the same time. They are (clock-wise from the top) Huernia occulta, Huernia clavigera and Huernia campanula. I received the seeds of the last one with that name but I believe it is named Huernia barbata now.

 

Thanks to everybody for all the sharing of beautiful photos and knowledge!

From Australia,

Carol

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----- Original Message -----

From: johnfrew9@...

To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:17 AM

Subject: Re: [Stapeliad] Rhytidocaulon ciliatum???

 

Dear Friederike and Fanda

 

I think this may be a hybrid of R. splendidum and macrolobum, Ernst had seed of what was supposed to be true splendidum but when the seedlings flowered they obviously had macrolobum blood. He also had true ciliatum for sale at the same time and possibly the labels got mixed.

Attached is a photo of one of the hybrids given to me by Ernst, also one of the ciliatum.

 

Hope this helps and doesn't confuse things more.

 

Best wishes,

 

John 

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Hello,

I'm new here. I'm searching for this plants for several months without any
succes :-(.
So i'm coming here to find more information to obtain them and to grow them.

Echidnopsis chrysantha
HUERNIA kennedyana
Huernia saudi-arabica
ORBEA ciliata
ORBEA speciosa
ORBEA dummeri
ORBEA caudata
Piaranthus barrydaiensis
Pseudolithos cubiformis
TAVARESIA grandiflora=barkleyi

Thank you for your help.

Tistou.

Hi,Ref your wish list,I have tried eden plants(small but not died yet)
or kakteen-haage,(larger in pots).Waiting for 14 huerinas,orberas from
kakteengartnerei albert plapp.Have you used them??.
      Hope this helps you.
                 Martyn.

--- In Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com, "tistoulpv" <tistoulpv@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm new here. I'm searching for this plants for several months without any
succes :-(.
> So i'm coming here to find more information to obtain them and to grow them.
>
> Echidnopsis chrysantha
> HUERNIA kennedyana
> Huernia saudi-arabica
> ORBEA ciliata
> ORBEA speciosa
> ORBEA dummeri
> ORBEA caudata
> Piaranthus barrydaiensis
> Pseudolithos cubiformis
> TAVARESIA grandiflora=barkleyi
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Tistou.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: tistoulpv

To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:17 PM

Subject: [Stapeliad] wish-list

 

Hello,

I'm new here. I'm searching for this plants for several months without any succes :-(.
So i'm coming here to find more information to obtain them and to grow them.

Echidnopsis chrysantha
HUERNIA kennedyana
Huernia saudi-arabica
ORBEA ciliata
ORBEA speciosa
ORBEA dummeri
ORBEA caudata
Piaranthus barrydaiensis
Pseudolithos cubiformis
TAVARESIA grandiflora=barkleyi

Thank you for your help.

Tistou.

--- In Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Vaughan" <tvaughan@...> wrote:
>
> I have extras of about half, but when you publish a wish list or sales list
you need to put down your location due to international regulations dealing with
permits.


I'm living in Marseille, FRANCE, where I grow my plants on a balcony. I protect
them from the rain. If it's too cold, I put them in the living room lol but it
is rarely necessary here. And you?

Tistou :-)

Hello Martyn, I made several order to kakteen-haage and each time I'm very
satisfy with their plants. But they don't have most of the plants in my
wish-list. I have not tried eden plants, thanks for the address.

Tistou :-)


--- In Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com, "martyn.jackson12" <martyn.jackson12@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,Ref your wish list,I have tried eden plants(small but not died yet)
> or kakteen-haage,(larger in pots).Waiting for 14 huerinas,orberas from
kakteengartnerei albert plapp.Have you used them??.
>      Hope this helps you.
>                 Martyn.
>
> --- In Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com, "tistoulpv" <tistoulpv@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm new here. I'm searching for this plants for several months without any
succes :-(.
> > So i'm coming here to find more information to obtain them and to grow them.
> >
> > Echidnopsis chrysantha
> > HUERNIA kennedyana
> > Huernia saudi-arabica
> > ORBEA ciliata
> > ORBEA speciosa
> > ORBEA dummeri
> > ORBEA caudata
> > Piaranthus barrydaiensis
> > Pseudolithos cubiformis
> > TAVARESIA grandiflora=barkleyi
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > Tistou.
> >
>

Hello.

I'm a beginner.  In February I started some Stapelia, Huernix, and Edithcolea
grandis seeds.  The first two are doing wonderfully, many branches, etc.  The
Edithcolea grandis are basically stalled at one stem, maybe 6 inches long, with
no branching. They are (for the winter here in Montreal) in a south window with
sun for about 4 hours of the day.  Is there any cultural point in particular for
E grandis that is good to know?  Or is this pretty standard?

Thanks.
Joe

----- Original Message -----

From: ej_mroz

To: Stapeliad@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:11 AM

Subject: [Stapeliad] Edithcolea grandis question

 

Hello.

I'm a beginner. In February I started some Stapelia, Huernix, and Edithcolea grandis seeds. The first two are doing wonderfully, many branches, etc. The Edithcolea grandis are basically stalled at one stem, maybe 6 inches long, with no branching. They are (for the winter here in Montreal) in a south window with sun for about 4 hours of the day. Is there any cultural point in particular for E grandis that is good to know? Or is this pretty standard?

Thanks.
Joe