Hello,

Maddy asked about any subscribers from SA.  I really don't know.  There are
lots of people probably in US and elsewhere with e-mail the ends with .com,
.net, .edu I wouldn't know unless I happened to recognized the e-mail
address from other lists.
So far we have people from US, UK, France, Netherlands, Austria, Portugal
(probably J. Lavranos), Italy, New Zealand, and Maddy from SA.

Do let us know where's your location after signing off.

Weijen
Singapore

Weijun asks if I could set-up a web-page on pollinating stapeliads.  At the
moment the day isn't long enough for present commitments.  Perhaps I can
give it a try next winter when things quiet down a bit.
	 If any of you want to give a try with simpler flowers, I would suggest
starting with Orbea variegata as this is fairly easy.  Remember that you
will usually do better with two different clones.  One of those magnifiers
that you wear on your head as glasses, is very useful.  They are available
in some hobby shops.  A pair of fine watch-makers forceps are also helpful.
  I don't think one will get very far without this minimal amount of
equipment.  Often one will see the pollinia moved into place by the carrion
flies.  Studying these flowers was the way in which I first got the idea of
what was going on.  If you are really serious about it, get my article and
after reading it, contact me and I will be happy to supply the surgical
steel wires.
Jerry Barad

Hi everybody,
I am impressed! This list is not even a week old, and it has already 42
members!! How did you do that, Weijen?! There was obviously a need for
it! I am looking forward to be part of it.

Anyway, you would like to know what kind of Stapeliads I grow... well,
so would I! :-) Most of them I got because they look different to what I
already have - I now have to wait for them to flower before I can make
an educated guess!  What I do know I have are: Stapelia gigantea and
Orbea variegata which grow like weeds and provide a nice groundcover in
places where I don't know what else to grow. Other identified species:
Stapelia leendertziae, S.gettliffei, Orbeopsis lutea, Huernia histrix,
Sarcostemma viminale, Ceropegia woodii and C.stapeliformis.
Besides Asclepiads I grow a whole lot of Aloe, haworthias, some cacti,
succulents too numerous to list, small Euphorbias, bromeliads, some
carnivores and bulbs. And some indigenous orchids (at least I am trying
to!) .
Can't decide what I like best!

Maddy in Gauteng, South Africa
are there any other SAfricans on this list?

I'm glad that we Stapeliad growers finally have a list of our own.

I am a dedicated milkweed lover and have been since I was a young boy.
I remember visiting stands of Asclepias syriaca and being amazed at the
teaming insect life each plant would support.  I still collect and grow
as many of the native milkweeds as I can, in addition to the exotics.

My present exotic collection, which is always growing :), consists of
the usual stapeliads, ie. Huernia, Caralluma, Stapelia, etc as well as a
good number of Ceropegias and Brachystelmas. They seem to do quite well
in this southern climate.

I really enjoy growing these things from seed, which is too bad, since
seed of many species is not very available.  The IAS has been a good
source for the past couple of years.  Mesa has some on occasion as well
as a good selection of plants.

It really is ironic that these things are so hard to find, but once you
get them, they run you out of house and home.

I winter most plants in a wood framed, plastic house. 12ft x 20 ft. The
roof slopes so it is about 10 ft high in the back and about 61/2 ft high
in front. A vented gas heater keeps things cozy. Deciduous trees help
shade it in summer, along with 95% black propylene shade cloth that
covers half the roof.  Two years ago I finally got a couple of those
heat sensitive piston activated vent operators and I must say they
really do the job.

Dick Wagner
Atlanta

Hi Giuseppe,

Do you've any photos of stapeliads taken in habitat when you visited Oman
and Yemen?  If so, please share your photos on the share files area.  Thanks.

Maybe you can provide us a short commentary of your trip with your
observations on stapeliads?

Weijen

At 04:13 PM 26/5/99 +0100, you wrote:
>From: "INSULA - Giuseppe Orlando" <eypinsu@...>
>
>really a good idea Weijen, the list is going on very well!
>
>Hello all,
>My brief introduction to the list members
>I have been growing stapeliads (and ceropegias) during the last 15 years,
>starting in Sicily, where I am from, and continuing now on Tenerife, Canary
>Islands, where I have been living for the last 9 years.
>I could put together a nice and interesting collection of
>stapeliads/ceropegias, that grows together with succulents of many other
>families, as Adeniums, Pachypodium, Euphorbias, Aloes, Mesembs, etc.etc.
>As everybody collecting stapeliads, I lost many plants too and learned a lot
>from this. In the dry and warm Canary Islands' weather, I had more success
>in growing plants from tropical east Africa, Arabia and India than the South
>African ones, but it was just a problem of microclimates and watering, as
>giving different quantity of sun/shade and water, everything now is growing
>without many problems.
>I am sure that this list will help all of us to learn from each other.
>
>Giuseppe Orlando,
>
>Santa Cruz de Tenerife
>
>
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Hi Jerry, do you think it is possible to set-up a webpage on the
pollination of stapeliad.  I know that's a very formidable task (it is
quite impossible to explain the complexity of the stapeliad flower
structure without a figure, let alone how to pollinate it).  Even better
will be diagrammatic sketch of the procedure mounted on the web!  That'll
require the skills of botanical artist.

Also, is there any species where one can use simplifer equipment to try or
learn to the pollination job without resorting to microscope or special
extra-thin surgical wires?

Weijen

>From: Gerald Barad <gbarad@...>
>Marwan raised the issue of pollination in stapeliads.  This is the area
>that I have been working on for many years.  These flowers do not have
>granular pollen as do many of the plants in other families.  The asclepiads
>all are pollinated by the placement of highly specialized structures called
>pollinia.  If there is further interest in this topic, I would suggest that
>you check out my article in the Cactus and Succulent Society of America
>Journal, Vol. 62, No. 3, May-June 1990.  Back issues are still available
>through our back issues department, email me if interested.
>Jerry Barad

I lost the post from this one, but I have a some info on the cultivation of
Ceropegiads. Typically they are found growing up within bushes in the wild.
these provide shade and humidity. they also tend to be found in moister
regions than the Stapeliads, so they appreciate more water (within reason)
and humidity but less sun.
Maybe this is why I failed with Ceropegiads, anyway this was taken from the
International Asclepiad society's handbook, and I hope it helps.
good growing Ceri
Ceri. Jones.
Barry Vale of Glamorgan.

>These 'non-stapeliad' like Ceropegia ......

Gentlepeople -

some time ago i received a cutting of C. cimiciodora
which i keep with various other succs in my windowsill
environment ( behind glass, sum from 7:00 to 11:30)
in my available literature i could not find any reference
on culture. It grows slowly, having a somewhat wrinkled look.
Can anybody provide additional info on favourable conditions ?


A Hoodia (cf. gordonii) purchased in a decrepid state in
Lanzarote sits 15 cm left of a.m. Ceropegia. Having
killed one Hoodia already any hints on culture are welcome.
It had not degraded since bringing it home but has not grown
either - quite contrary to my other stapeliads which reside
in my orchid house in a moist atmosphere.

BTW - a Ceropegia cf. haygartii which grew too long vines
for my windowsills has been moved to my orchid house where
it is residing in an obscure corner. It cherishes the climate
and has been running wild for the last months across the
ceiling, winding across the hanging supports there.
Always lots of flowers - thats a really easy species.

best regards
Manfred
Vienna, Austria where summer is definitely coming

Marwan raised the issue of pollination in stapeliads.  This is the area
that I have been working on for many years.  These flowers do not have
granular pollen as do many of the plants in other families.  The asclepiads
all are pollinated by the placement of highly specialized structures called
pollinia.  If there is further interest in this topic, I would suggest that
you check out my article in the Cactus and Succulent Society of America
Journal, Vol. 62, No. 3, May-June 1990.  Back issues are still available
through our back issues department, email me if interested.
Jerry Barad

Hello all of you stapeliad lovers, from sunny, hot & dry Egypt.

A few years ago I came across a plant that looked like no other I have seen. It
was well taken care of and resided on my kitchen window sill for some many
moons. Then one day a pod appeared, I had no idea what to expect. Every day it
grew larger until one morning, this awesome ( a word lately misused) flower made
quite a majestic presence demanding respect, that we all did, even my year old
boy.

This was it, the spark that ignited the fire.

All my concern was to attempt to pollinate it, as I do with most of my plants.
That was an impossible operation, for an instant I thought I had a mutant !

Anyway, I hope that we all can share our experiences with those lovely plants.
One more salute for the mighty Plant Kingdom.
Keep up the good work,
Marwan
Egypt.

Hi I never give myself an intro, but I see some friends names on the list,
so here goes. I have been growing Stapeliads for 5 years myself, I am drawn
to Brachystelmas now,  but Stapelias still hold a true facination, nice to
see you here Giuseppe how are you, and well done to Weijen for thinking of
it. I have to say that mostly all succulents has there annoying pests, i.e..
mealy bug etc, but my stapeliads have their own unusual pest, it,s called an
English Springer spaniel pup, he got into the green house took all the pots
from the bench and mad one big mess in the middle of the floor. Luck he
never hardly damaged the plants, I have to make sure the door is locked now.
oh well that's al for now.
Ceri
Ceri. Jones.
Barry Vale of Glamorgan.

Hi to All,
This list is going to be a great one, I can feel it! I recieved my first
stapeliad
when I was a kid. My grandmother grew Stapelia (Orbea) variegata outside in the
Napa valley here in Northern California. Frosts (such as there are), cold and
wet
don't bother this species much, and I was fascinated by the blooms. I had a
fairly
large group of ascleps until winter before last, when we flooded. The water was
only inches deep in the hothouse, but the humidity was too much, lost most of
this
group. Fockeas survived tho'. I'm slowly building the collection up and hope to
get some good info as well as resources form this list. Maybe I might be able to
contribute something useful, too!
Looking forward to the next digest,
Bob

Hello Fellow Enthusiasts,

      My name is Bill Gingras and I live in San Jose, CA - about 50 miles
      south of San Francisco.  I've been "into" growing cacti and succulents
      for about 5 years now.  I started with cacti, then began collecting
      other succulents as well.  Because of space constraints, most of what
      I now collect are "miniatures," and my favorites are euphorbias and
      stapeliads.  Of the asclepiads, the ones I have (spelling from memory)
      are: Stapelia gigantea, Stapelia berlinensis, Orbea variagata, Huernia
      zebrina, Huernia kennedyiana, Huernia penzigii, Hoodia gregorii,
      Edithcolea grandis, Fockea edulis, plus a few other unnamed Carallumas
      and Huernias.  The Hoodia is currently in bloom and it is spectacular.
      The Caralluma has never bloomed, but in general, the stapeliads grow
      very well for me.

      My first was the S. gigantea, which I got as a cutting from my brother
      in New Jersey.  The "mother plant" was killed in a frost a few years
      ago, but I will be traveling to NJ on business next week and intend to
      return a cutting to my brother.

      Oh well, I'll sign off for now.  I look forward to learning from this
      list, and perhaps even contributing!

      - Bill G

really a good idea Weijen, the list is going on very well!

Hello all,
My brief introduction to the list members
I have been growing stapeliads (and ceropegias) during the last 15 years,
starting in Sicily, where I am from, and continuing now on Tenerife, Canary
Islands, where I have been living for the last 9 years.
I could put together a nice and interesting collection of
stapeliads/ceropegias, that grows together with succulents of many other
families, as Adeniums, Pachypodium, Euphorbias, Aloes, Mesembs, etc.etc.
As everybody collecting stapeliads, I lost many plants too and learned a lot
from this. In the dry and warm Canary Islands' weather, I had more success
in growing plants from tropical east Africa, Arabia and India than the South
African ones, but it was just a problem of microclimates and watering, as
giving different quantity of sun/shade and water, everything now is growing
without many problems.
I am sure that this list will help all of us to learn from each other.

Giuseppe Orlando,

Santa Cruz de Tenerife

Hi:

Glad to see so many signing up for this list.  Some of you
already know me from other groups.  I am currently working
on a series of articles about growing cacti and succulents
which are being written interview style.  I want to
interview people who grow various genera so that their
knowledge can be shared with my readers--most are disabled
and/or elderly although I suspect I have a lot readers who
don't fit these categories too!  My main interest is
horticulture therapy.

Is there a volunteer from this group who would serve as the
expert on Stapeliads?  If so, please contact me at:
enabling@....

There is nothing to be nervous about.  The questions are
basic--describe your favorite genus, what light, what water,
what growing media do they need, and any others we cme up
with along the way.  The article is written conversational
style.

Here is the current (introductory) article:
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/enabling_garden/19969

Here is the article that will be published on Friday, May
28:  http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/262/20332

If you can help with Stapeliads, or any other genera within
the cacti-succulents, please let me know!
--
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Greetings from Italy,

I am really pleased to join this list, which covers an absolutely
beautiful group of plants. Unfortunately Stapeliads are not very popular
in my country, perhaps because they have a reputation of difficult
plants. I must admit I have just a few species in my collection (namely
Hoodia pilifera, Stapelianthus decaryi, Trichocaulon(=Larryleachia)
cactiforme, dinteri and a few unidentified others. Seed of Stapeliads is
not easy to find. The most popular seed catalogues list just a few
species. Do you know a good supplier of Stapeliads seed?

I have attempted to grow a few species from seed. The seed germinated
very well, but the plantlets soon rotted, despite treated with a good
fungicide.

Incidentally the latest issue of Cactus&Co. included two articles on the
smooth stemmed species of Trichocaulon by Desmond Cole and Colin Walker.
I hope more contributions will be submitted to our journal on these
fascinating plants.

Lucio

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I was happy to see that Weijun has started this stapeliad list.  I have
been growing a fairly large collection of stapeliads for the past 25 years
more or less and have gone through a lot of trouble getting to a point
where I can grow them fairly well.  I look forward to sharing information
with the group and answering questions on matters with  which I have had
experience.
Jerry Barad,   Flemington, NJ  USA

Hello Weijen how are you I wonder, this is a good idea, I hope to hear from
you soon.
Ceri
Ceri. Jones.
Barry Vale of Glamorgan.

> In this list, I hope we would not confine ourselves to the typical
> definition of stapeliad, but expand to encompass those stem succulent
> genera of the asclepiadaceae.  These 'non-stapeliad' like ceropegia
(which
> include some very succulent species too), cynanchum, sarcostemma should
> included and discussed.

I agree and would add Brachystelma.

Kenneth Quinn

Hi all,

I've been growing succulent the past few years 5 years.  Started with cacti
quickly moved on to crassulas, echeverias, now firmly sticking to
euphorbias, pachypodiums, adeniums, kalanchoes and stapeliads.  Stapeliads
and euphorbias make up most of my collection.

The stapeliads that I've are from the following genera: Caralluma, Duvalia
(not surviving well), duvaliandra, echidnopsis, huernia, stapelianthus,
pseudolithos, pseudopectinaria, frerea, rhytidocaulon, hoodia, edithcolea.
These are stapeliads from the warmer regions which I've discovered to be
able to adapt and flower well.  I've limited success (40-60% eventual death
rate) with south african ones.  My stapeliads experience no distinct
seasons year around, except for periods of cool rainy weather to hot,
windless days.  The temperatures are between 26-35 Deg C each day with
variations of at most 3 degs from that range.  Humidity range from average
of 70% to more than 90% on rainy days.  They are watered year round,
repotted whenever the younger stems start to get too far away from the soil
level.  I use sandy soil, mix with some humus to retain some moisture. I
keep them in moist soil and leave them bone-dry only for very short period
of time.

Recently, I'm also getting interested in the other members of the milkweed
family from madagascar, after looking at the Succulents and Xerophytic
plants of Madagascar  vol. 1 and vol.2 by Werner Rauh.

In this list, I hope we would not confine ourselves to the typical
definition of stapeliad, but expand to encompass those stem succulent
genera of the asclepiadaceae.  These 'non-stapeliad' like ceropegia (which
include some very succulent species too), cynanchum, sarcostemma should
included and discussed.

Regards.

Weijen
Singapore

Best wishes for much success with this new list.
	 Marina
Marina Welham, Editor/Publisher
THE AMATEURS' DIGEST
The Publication for Lovers of Succulent Plants
http://vvv.com/~amdigest

Hi.
    I remember the first stapelia I ever saw.  It hung in the window of a
store we went to when I was a kid.  My mom asked for a piece of it and
started growing it at home.  Then one day we went to the store and the plant
was gone.  My mom asked if it had died and they said it bloomed and started
smelling like it was rotting so they threw it out.  Later when the plant
bloomed for my mom we found out about that rotten smell.  But I loved the
bizarre flower (probably a S. gigantea) and that it could smell so bad.
Perhaps that was the plant that sparked my love for unusual plants and
flowers.
	 I only have room to grow indoors and under lights (fluorescent and
metal halide).  I seem to have much in common with Kathleen in that respect,
and in that, I also grow a few orchids, and a few carnivorous plants. As well
I grow Dorstenia, a genus which has a few things in common with Stapelia,
namely the strange inflorescences and smells only the collector could love.
Pachypodiums are another of my favorites.
	 Currently I have about a dozen stapelias, mostly Stapelia, Huernia,
Stapelianthus and Caralluma.  I want one of everything but I am still at the
stage where I must make regular cuttings because my plants will mysteriously
and suddenly expire.
	 I want to know how others grow their plants indoors in the winter and
outdoors in the summer, what kind of soil mixes and pots others use, when to
start watering in the spring, and more.  I am really look forward to
improving my stapelia growing skills so I can try some of the more exotic
plants.
	 Thanks!  I look forward to learning from all of you!

Linda Tamblyn
In Kansas City

Greetings!

      My name is Kathleen Heldreth.  I joined the stapeliad list to learn
more about these succulents.  (Good question Diana!  I had the same one.)
I know that I have at least one of these plants, Stapelia grandifora.   I
love it, especially when it flowers.  It's fun trying to get the kids to
smell the pretty flowers!  (Cruel, huh?)  This plant is fairly susceptible
to mealy bugs in the winter.  Why?  Am I not watering it enough?

      The person who put together the following web site should be credited
with my latest interest in Stapeliads.
(http://www.mendelu.cz/user/hanacek/)    This is truly a gorgeous site.  I
shall be collecting more of these beauties!

      I like to grow exotic looking plants, (with easy culture), from lots
of different genera.  I collect phalaenopsis, paphiopedilum and dendrobium
orchids, carnivorous plants and a wide variety of cactus and succulents.
I'm a windowsill and florescent light grower for the most part.  Space is
always a problem in the winter months.  Most of my plants go outside for
the summer.  (I live in the temperate climate of the mid-atlantic  U.S.)

      I look forward to discussions on our new list!

Kathleen Heldreth
Newark, Delaware  U.S.A.

Hi all. I mostly grow mesembs and Crassulaceae but have some stapeliads in
my collection and need to learn more about them.  The climates of my area
and the southern and western portions of South Africa are similar.   I have
a particular interest in plants from that area.  I grow mostly outdoors in
containers.

Looking forward to learning a lot,

Phil Bunch
San Diego Area (Sunset Zone 23)

Gentlepeople -
taking part now for some month in the Fat-Plants i
received the invitation of Weijen to a new list.

When i began to collect cacti some 25 yrs ago and
later switched to other succs like Euphorbias it was
inevitable to come into contact with Stapeliads.
At that time i had to keep all plants on my windowsills
here in Central Europe which was quite unsuccessful
with Stapeliads. They either rotted or schriveled up...
When later may focus shifted mainly to tropical orchids
the succ-madness subsides somewhat, shifting the
effort to this other, fascinating plant family - epiphytic orchids.

Startet experimentally i acquired several Stapeliads
(from cactus sales and backcuttings) to keep them in
a dryer corner of the warm section of my orchid house.
So far all plants are growing nicely, several have bloomed
last year. In my humble opinion all Stapeliads i have
encountered so far want to be
- not too cold
- not too dry
- not too wet
which is sometimes like squaring the circle. In the place they
have been assigned in the orchid house they receive only the
fog from my automatic misting system and only during very hot
periods they get watered directly.
I suppose i will be mostly lurking in this group as my main
interest is elsewhere but this is an opportunity to learn something
new and maybe to contribute something i have picked up.

best regards - good luck

Manfred
Vienna, Austria where warm weather has set in the the East
while the West had devastating rainfalls and floods

We've about 20+ subscribers now.  About 10 hours after my annoucement.  Do
send us your introduction.  You may be remainded to send it your intro
again in the future when we have more members, do save a copy.

Weijen
Singapore

Diana,

I think your question is most valid.

I think stapeliad is a collective term for the stem succulents of the
milkweed family, asclepiadaceae.  The genera that make up "stapeliads" are
according to Darrel Plowes namely Caralluma, Duvalia, Duvaliandra,
Echidnopsis (note the spelling), Edithcolea, Frerea, Hoodia, Huernia,
Huerniopsis, Lavrania, Notechidnopsis, Ophionella, Orbea,  Orbeanthus,
Orbeopsis, Pachycymbium, Pectinaria, Piaranthus, Pseudolithos,
Pseudopectinaria, Quaqua, Rhytidocaulon, Stapelia, Stapelianthus,
Stapeliopsis, Stultitia, Tavaresia, Trichocaulon, Tridentea, Tromotriche,
Whitesloanea.

Some of the genus is monotypic meaning that there is only 1 species for
that genus eg. Frerea indica (or = Caralluma indica).  Others are
exceedingly rare in nature but common in cultivation, or exceedingly rare
both in nature and in cultivation or near extinction.  We hope to share our
knowledge, exchange cultivation tips, increase awareness in succulent
enthusiasts.

Of course, plant taxonomy is evolving and ever changing some of the common
genus names are reduced to synomyns eg Luckhoffia,  Hoodiopsis and so
forth. May someone who has more knowledge of the present revision may want
to update us.

Weijen
Singapore
>From: Diana Pederson <enabling@...>
>
>Hello:
>
>I joined this list not even knowing if I owned a stapeliad,
>then I found the name Huernias in someone else's listing of
>plants owned.  Could someone post a list of the genera found
>in the Stapeliad family?  That would really help those of us
>not familiar with this family.
>--
>Diana Pederson, Lansing, Michigan, United States, USDA Zone
>5
>Editor:  http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/enabling_garden

Hello:

I joined this list not even knowing if I owned a stapeliad,
then I found the name Huernias in someone else's listing of
plants owned.  Could someone post a list of the genera found
in the Stapeliad family?  That would really help those of us
not familiar with this family.
--
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5
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Hi, everybody. This is Kenneth Quinn, in New Orleans where just getting
stapeliads to stay alive is an accomplishment!  I do have Caralluma foetida
and an unnamed  Huernia.  Huernia blooms, the Caralluma just stays alive
and grows.

I also grow several species of the genus Aristolochia, known as Dutchman's
pipe, pipevine, and birthwort.  The flowers of A. elegans and A. gigantea
are very reminiscent of Stapelia flowers, having a marbled yellow and dark
red flower.   The fragrance is more like rotting fruit than rotting meat,
and they do attract fruit flies.

I've had some success with Stapelia gigantea and with Caralluma
stalagmifera, also Caralluma schweinfurtiii.

Kenneth Quinn

Hi all you lovers of Stinky Plants!

I keep Stapelia gigantea, hirsuta, nobilis, gettliffei, schinzii,
stalagmifera and others which I have not been able to ID yet,some
propagated from "purloined cuttings", i.,e. those which just happen to jump
into my pocket when I am looking at plants.  I have pet names for those
which I cannot ID yet such as "dead dog", "dead cat", "caca" (which is a
vulgar word in Spanish for excrement.  In fact I think it is almost a
universal word), variegata (synonym Orbea variegata).

In Carallumas I have lutea, speciosa, schweinfurthii.

I have several Huernias, mostly un-ID'd but including Zebrina.

I have Edithcolea grandis which has never bloomed (yet)

I am taking the liberty of putting an URL on the bookmarks for this list:
http://www.mendelu.cz/user/hanacek
You ALL really need to look at this site prepared by a couple of Czech
botanists and which is loaded with gorgeous photos of our favorite stinkers.

Best regards to Weijen in his new list.  I think it really fulfills a need.

Bye,
Clark Weston
USDA Zone 8  El Paso, Texas
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