I'm having a go at making the LaTeX mode more useful, largely through adding
some
scripts. For those who might be interested, I'm chronicling my progress on my
blog at
<http://appliedabstraction.blogspot.com/>. I've run into several questions about
the
scripting model, and hope that someone can clarify things for me. I'll start
with just a few
fundamental questions.

First, the SubEthaEdit scripting dictionary is such that windows can contain
documents and
documents can contain windows. So, what is the right way to refer to the active
tab in the
front window? Is 'tell front document of application "SubEthaEdit"' the right
thing to do?
Should it be 'tell document of front window of application "SubEthaEdit"'? Both
work, so is
there a reason to prefer one over the other, apart from the greater clarity of
the former?

Second, is there any reason to check for an open document in a mode-dependent
script?
As far as I can tell, the only way that such a script gets activated is when an
appropriate
document is open. This implies that there will never be an error from referring
to a non-
existent document in a modal script. Have I missed anything?

Third, how does collaborative editing interact with the idea of the selection? I
don't really
use the collaborative features myself, but I tried some basic tests to get a
feel for what's
needed. It appears that you only get access to your own selection, and not your
collaborators. For scripting, that would be just fine, since I could ignore the
collaborative
part and not stumble into any difficulties. Should I expect any troubles from
scripting
SubEthaEdit as if it were a "normal" non-collaborative editor?

These questions seem to me to be relevant to most of the scripts I have in mind.
For
example, I present a script at <http://appliedabstraction.blogspot.com/2007/07/
seeing-latex-2-opening-pdf-in-viewer.html> where all three points came up
in the just six lines that related to SubEthaEdit.

I look forward to your comments.

--
Michael

--- In SubEthaEdit@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Brantschen <sbr@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Can I scroll a SubEthaEdit window to show the current selection (or
> insertion point) from AppleScript?
>
> Thanks and regards
> -- Stefan
>


Reviving a slightly older thread...

This can be done using UI Scripting. You basically have System Events click the
appropriate
menu entry, in this case "Jump to Selection". I show how to do that in a blog
post here:
<http://appliedabstraction.blogspot.com/2007/07/seeing-latex-3-from-pdfview-
to.html>. I use it as part of a shell script, but the relevant bits of
AppleScript can be
isolated without any trouble.

Hope that helps,
Michael

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get it to open files on the server. Basically the idea we have is for everyone
to be able to update the same customer note files from whatever point of sale
computer they happen to be on.
I got to wondering, in a multi computer situation, is it best to have a copy on
each computer or does each computer's user run a copy from the server?

And does each computer have to be signed on to the server or is there a way to
access server files without explicitly signing on, like via the server IP
address?

Any scripting examples, tips or pointers to information will be greatly
appreciated in order to help get me up to speed in a hurry.

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Would be it possible of fare something against the recrudescence of Spam noted
lately on
this forum?

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On 13.08.2007, at 09:24, MaamuT Delagrotte wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Would be it possible of fare something against the recrudescence of
> Spam noted lately on
> this forum?
>

Sorry for that, I was hoping Yahoo's spam filtering would work a
little bit better.
I just switched on moderation, so mails will take a little bit longer
to show up, but there shouldn't be any more spam.

All the best,
Martin

--- In SubEthaEdit@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pittenauer <map@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry for that, I was hoping Yahoo's spam filtering would work a
> little bit better.
> I just switched on moderation, so mails will take a little bit longer
> to show up, but there shouldn't be any more spam.
>
> All the best,
> Martin
>

Ok, merci beaucoup ;)

Hey Martin:

I posted some time ago about making SubEtha Growl aware.  I don't want to be a
pest, but I
really need that functionality.  Any hope of making that happen?  Thanks.

Hello,

Is there may be somebody already working on TypoScript code coloring?
or are there people willing to collaborate on a typoscript version?

regards Gijs

I use SEE on a university network.  To take notes in class, my friends and I
need to be able to
connect to each other's computers.  I have a hostname registered, and can ping
my computer
from their computer, etc.  However, I cannot tell SEE to connect to my computer
without
using the Internet dialog box... which fails.  (I think because it tries to go
out to the internet,
then come back in, which it doesn't need to do and is blocked for security
concerns)  Is there
a way to tell SEE what computer to connect to on a local network, bypassing the
Bonjour
auto-discovery?

On 10.09.2007, at 19:51, mechcozmo wrote:

> I use SEE on a university network. To take notes in class, my
> friends and I need to be able to
> connect to each other's computers. I have a hostname registered, and
> can ping my computer
> from their computer, etc. However, I cannot tell SEE to connect to
> my computer without
> using the Internet dialog box... which fails. (I think because it
> tries to go out to the internet,
> then come back in, which it doesn't need to do and is blocked for
> security concerns) Is there
> a way to tell SEE what computer to connect to on a local network,
> bypassing the Bonjour
> auto-discovery?

The "Internet" window allows (or should allow) you to connect to an
arbitrary IP address. It won't connect to the internet if the IP is
within your local subnet.

All the best,
Martin

That isn't working.  It worked _once_ but since then we haven't been able to re-
establish a connection.  SEE always times out, and even when we use a document
URL, the
other computer cannot resolve it.  Is there any way to hop through these
subnets?

Brandon

--- In SubEthaEdit@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pittenauer <map@...> wrote:
>
>
> On 10.09.2007, at 19:51, mechcozmo wrote:
>
> > I use SEE on a university network. To take notes in class, my
> > friends and I need to be able to
> > connect to each other's computers. I have a hostname registered, and
> > can ping my computer
> > from their computer, etc. However, I cannot tell SEE to connect to
> > my computer without
> > using the Internet dialog box... which fails. (I think because it
> > tries to go out to the internet,
> > then come back in, which it doesn't need to do and is blocked for
> > security concerns) Is there
> > a way to tell SEE what computer to connect to on a local network,
> > bypassing the Bonjour
> > auto-discovery?
>
> The "Internet" window allows (or should allow) you to connect to an
> arbitrary IP address. It won't connect to the internet if the IP is
> within your local subnet.
>
> All the best,
> Martin
>

Subethaedit highlights matching brackets, but only for a very short
while. Wouldn't it be nice to have the highlighting remain until the
cursor moves away from the bracket?

Jim

On 17.10.2007, at 14:59, Gus wrote:

> Subethaedit highlights matching brackets, but only for a very short
> while. Wouldn't it be nice to have the highlighting remain until the
> cursor moves away from the bracket?
>
You can achieve the desired effect by double clicking one of the
brackets.

All the best,
Martin

Hey Martin:

Still hoping for Growl support.  I talked to the folks at Growl, but they say
you guys need to
support it.  Growl support would make my life ever so much easier.  Any hope?

John

Is it possible to add structuring elements to the mode menu? I'd like to be able
to put some
dividing lines between groups of scripts, or possibly group scripts into
submenus.

On 05.01.2008, at 07:16, michael_j_barber wrote:

> Is it possible to add structuring elements to the mode menu? I'd
> like to be able to put some
> dividing lines between groups of scripts, or possibly group scripts
> into submenus.

That's a good idea. Currently that's not possible but it sounds like a
really useful addition.

All the best,
Martin

Standard convention for Unix files is that they should end with a newline. Is
there any
combination of settings that will get SubEthaEdit to do this?

--- In SubEthaEdit@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pittenauer <map@...> wrote:
>
>
> On 05.01.2008, at 07:16, michael_j_barber wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to add structuring elements to the mode menu? I'd
> > like to be able to put some
> > dividing lines between groups of scripts, or possibly group scripts
> > into submenus.
>
> That's a good idea. Currently that's not possible but it sounds like a
> really useful addition.
>

Well, perhaps in a future version, then. As it stands, the nine items I've got
in the extended
LaTeX mode I've been working on are pretty hard to read - and that's quite a
modest set for
LaTeX!

Consider the following three AppleScripts:

-- script 1
do shell script "echo some text | /usr/bin/see"

on seescriptsettings()
	 {displayName:"Pipe into see"}
end seescriptsettings

-- script 2
do shell script "echo some text | open -f"

on seescriptsettings()
	 {displayName:"Pipe into open"}
end seescriptsettings

-- script 3
do shell script "echo some text | /usr/local/bin/mate"

on seescriptsettings()
	 {displayName:"Pipe into mate"}
end seescriptsettings

-- end scripts

The three scripts are all similar in intent. You add them to a mode and have an
item added
to the mode menu. Each one produces the text "some text\n" and pipes it into a
shell
command to open a new document in an application. The first one uses 'see' to
open it in
SubEthaEdit, the second uses 'open -f' to open it in TextEdit, and the third
uses 'mate' to
open it in TextMate.

The second and third scripts work fine. The first one does not. The new
SubEthaEdit
document does not open, and SubEthaEdit becomes unresponsive. By killing the
'see'
process using the terminal, you can actually get the document to open, however.
Further,
just running the AppleScript from the Script Editor works fine, with SubEthaEdit
immediately opening the document.

Any suggestions on getting this working? Is this a bug, or am I just missing
something?

I believe you have misread me. In the Format menu, you can set the line endings
to be
carriage returns, line feeds, or both. However, the file itself should end with
a line feed,
which is not enforced by setting "Use Unix/Mac OS X Line Endings (LF)". I'm
looking for a
way to require that.

--- In SubEthaEdit@yahoogroups.com, Alexander Henket <ahenket@...> wrote:
>
>
> Under the Format menu you will find what you are looking for on per
> document basis. In the Preferences you can set it for all new documents.
>
> Regards
>
> Alexander Henket
>
> Op 7 jan 2008, om 18:51 heeft michael_j_barber het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Standard convention for Unix files is that they should end with a
> > newline. Is there any
> > combination of settings that will get SubEthaEdit to do this?
> >
> >
> >
>