I'll withdraw my other comment about not feeding back to the grid.

I do apologise. From the Xantrex blurb, it appears this unit does indeed feed back to the grid.

Grid-interactivity allows excess energy that is generated to be exported to the grid, and allows the grid to act as an additional energy source to charge the system's batteries.

Do your sums and look at the options and I'm sure we'd all love to hear about your experience!

Thanks for the information, it's certainly been enlightening for me

Ian

--- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Ritchie" <scantec1@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I misinterpreted your requirements.
>
> If you have no desire to feed back into the grid, then there are many inverters that can do it, in fact a simple double pole changeover switch is all that is required.
>
> The Xantrex unit you showed, does not feed back to the grid, but it does power share (parallel) with the grid, so as reducing your grid consumption. They usually also have a power boost function, which is handy at times when the grid supply is limited (boats and RVs for example) which actually boosts the grid power for short durations by using battery power. There are a number of inverters on the market with these features (Mastervolt also has one). Remember, the quiescent current increases with all these "dinky" add-ons which usually are not necessary. Good design beats sparkles and glitter :-))
>
> Depending on where you live, you may also find the supply authority company may not let you use these inverters without registration with them first (which may also require testing and approval applications at a cost).
>
> Ian
>
> --- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, Iftikhar Khan iftikhar21@ wrote:
> >
> > Actually what I was looking for I found by accident. Xantrex makes this
> > inverter, more details here.
> > Please see figure 2, grid-tie system with backup power
> >
> > http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/25/learn.asp
> >
> > Just thought to share it with you guys.
> >
> > <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/25/learn.asp>
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Ian Ritchie scantec1@ wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You're asking about two (usually) different items. The common grid tie
> > > inverters aren't usually configured to 12Vdc (or 24Vdc).
> > >
> > > My best guess is your essential loads are fairly minor (assuming you aren't
> > > referring to refigeration), so a stand alone cheap inverter would be
> > > preferable unless you wish to go the way already suggested of a dc essential
> > > circuit.
> > >
> > > Also, since you are connected to the grid mostly, why use solar to charge
> > > the batteries, when you could charge them effectively from a night rate
> > > tarrif, whilst using all the solar to feed back at either the day tarrif or
> > > better still, a higher feed-in tariff.
> > >
> > > Food for thought!
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com <SunGrid%40yahoogroups.com>, "iftikhar2121"
> > > <iftikhar21@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've been looking at various big name brands and wasn't able to find what
> > > I'm looking for, so I decided to ask you guys, if you can tell me, if what
> > > I'm looking for exists and makes sense.
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for an inverter, that's a "hybrid inverter", so it can take
> > > power from the grid, like a grid-tied inverter, and also work as an off-grid
> > > inverter. So basically it would be an inverter that can connect my PV array
> > > to my load, and also to the grid.
> > > >
> > > > If for some reason I don't have power from the grid for a few hours, I
> > > can still run my critical load, from the power stored in batteries (battery
> > > bank).
> > > >
> > > > Most inverters that I looked at, are only grid-tied, (can not connect to
> > > batteries), or off-grid (can not connect to grid), That's why I said, I need
> > > a "hybrid inverter". That can do both jobs with one machine.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you and I'll be very grateful for any help and guidance.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Sorry, I misinterpreted your requirements.

If you have no desire to feed back into the grid, then there are many inverters
that can do it, in fact a simple double pole changeover switch is all that is
required.

The Xantrex unit you showed, does not feed back to the grid, but it does power
share (parallel) with the grid, so as reducing your grid consumption. They
usually also have a power boost function, which is handy at times when the grid
supply is limited (boats and RVs for example) which actually boosts the grid
power for short durations by using battery power. There are a number of
inverters on the market with these features (Mastervolt also has one). Remember,
the quiescent current increases with all these "dinky" add-ons which usually are
not necessary. Good design beats sparkles and glitter :-))

Depending on where you live, you may also find the supply authority company may
not let you use these inverters without registration with them first (which may
also require testing and approval applications at a cost).

Ian

--- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, Iftikhar Khan <iftikhar21@...> wrote:
>
> Actually what I was looking for I found by accident. Xantrex makes this
> inverter, more details here.
> Please see figure 2, grid-tie system with backup power
>
> http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/25/learn.asp
>
> Just thought to share it with you guys.
>
> <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/25/learn.asp>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Ian Ritchie <scantec1@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > You're asking about two (usually) different items. The common grid tie
> > inverters aren't usually configured to 12Vdc (or 24Vdc).
> >
> > My best guess is your essential loads are fairly minor (assuming you aren't
> > referring to refigeration), so a stand alone cheap inverter would be
> > preferable unless you wish to go the way already suggested of a dc essential
> > circuit.
> >
> > Also, since you are connected to the grid mostly, why use solar to charge
> > the batteries, when you could charge them effectively from a night rate
> > tarrif, whilst using all the solar to feed back at either the day tarrif or
> > better still, a higher feed-in tariff.
> >
> > Food for thought!
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> > --- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com <SunGrid%40yahoogroups.com>, "iftikhar2121"
> > <iftikhar21@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been looking at various big name brands and wasn't able to find what
> > I'm looking for, so I decided to ask you guys, if you can tell me, if what
> > I'm looking for exists and makes sense.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for an inverter, that's a "hybrid inverter", so it can take
> > power from the grid, like a grid-tied inverter, and also work as an off-grid
> > inverter. So basically it would be an inverter that can connect my PV array
> > to my load, and also to the grid.
> > >
> > > If for some reason I don't have power from the grid for a few hours, I
> > can still run my critical load, from the power stored in batteries (battery
> > bank).
> > >
> > > Most inverters that I looked at, are only grid-tied, (can not connect to
> > batteries), or off-grid (can not connect to grid), That's why I said, I need
> > a "hybrid inverter". That can do both jobs with one machine.
> > >
> > > Thank you and I'll be very grateful for any help and guidance.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

You're asking about two (usually) different items. The common grid tie inverters
aren't usually configured to 12Vdc (or 24Vdc).

My best guess is your essential loads are fairly minor (assuming you aren't
referring to refigeration), so a stand alone cheap inverter would be preferable
unless you wish to go the way already suggested of a dc essential circuit.

Also, since you are connected to the grid mostly, why use solar to charge the
batteries, when you could charge them effectively from a night rate tarrif,
whilst using all the solar to feed back at either the day tarrif or better
still, a higher feed-in tariff.

Food for thought!

Ian

--- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, "iftikhar2121" <iftikhar21@...> wrote:
>
> I've been looking at various big name brands and wasn't able to find what I'm
looking for, so I decided to ask you guys, if you can tell me, if what I'm
looking for exists and makes sense.
>
> I'm looking for an inverter, that's a "hybrid inverter", so it can take power
from the grid, like a grid-tied inverter, and also work as an off-grid inverter.
So basically it would be an inverter that can connect my PV array to my load,
and also to the grid.
>
> If for some reason I don't have power from the grid for a few hours, I can
still run my critical load, from the power stored in batteries (battery bank).
>
> Most inverters that I looked at, are only grid-tied, (can not connect to
batteries), or off-grid (can not connect to grid), That's why I said, I need a
"hybrid inverter". That can do both jobs with one machine.
>
> Thank you and I'll be very grateful for any help and guidance.
>

What you need is a charge controller which charges the battery and an inverter
to convert this to AC and connect it to the Grid. If Grid fails you will be
automatically connected to the battery for essential loads. If you do not use DC
power the Battery will get charged and when fully charged the energy will flow
into the grid and will reduce your bill if you have signed for Net metering.
It may be better to have a separate DC wiring with essential load so that this
is always fed by solar or battery and not taking Grid load this will reduce your
bill. This is more efficient. DC operated LED lamps will give light efficiently
and you can run computers and modern TVs directly on DC. This is a better way
than converting to AC and in the equipment it is converted to DC again. If grid
fails it will be automatically isolated from the grid and your DC system will
work for your essential loads of light Computer and LED TV. Contact me if you
need more details of the wiring diagram etc.

--- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, "iftikhar2121" <iftikhar21@...> wrote:
>
> I've been looking at various big name brands and wasn't able to find what I'm
looking for, so I decided to ask you guys, if you can tell me, if what I'm
looking for exists and makes sense.
>
> I'm looking for an inverter, that's a "hybrid inverter", so it can take power
from the grid, like a grid-tied inverter, and also work as an off-grid inverter.
So basically it would be an inverter that can connect my PV array to my load,
and also to the grid.
>
> If for some reason I don't have power from the grid for a few hours, I can
still run my critical load, from the power stored in batteries (battery bank).
>
> Most inverters that I looked at, are only grid-tied, (can not connect to
batteries), or off-grid (can not connect to grid), That's why I said, I need a
"hybrid inverter". That can do both jobs with one machine.
>
> Thank you and I'll be very grateful for any help and guidance.
>

I've been looking at various big name brands and wasn't able to find what I'm
looking for, so I decided to ask you guys, if you can tell me, if what I'm
looking for exists and makes sense.

I'm looking for an inverter, that's a "hybrid inverter", so it can take power
from the grid, like a grid-tied inverter, and also work as an off-grid inverter.
So basically it would be an inverter that can connect my PV array to my load,
and also to the grid.

If for some reason I don't have power from the grid for a few hours, I can still
run my critical load, from the power stored in batteries (battery bank).

Most inverters that I looked at, are only grid-tied, (can not connect to
batteries), or off-grid (can not connect to grid), That's why I said, I need a
"hybrid inverter". That can do both jobs with one machine.

Thank you and I'll be very grateful for any help and guidance.

Please see
http://solarplaza.com/trade/?utm_source=Solarplaza+SUN&utm_campaign=2d274cce33-S\
UN&utm_medium=email

QS announced its achievement of reaching US$1/Wp selling price.
Date��2009-8-4
http://www.qspv.net/view.asp?id=270

Module power: 55 Wp
Technology:  amorphous silicon thin-film cells
Price:  $ 1,10 /Wp (framed; $1,00 unframed)

(FOB SHANGHAI) framed with volume from 1 to 5x40'GP containers.

Dimensions:  1404 x 794 x 35 (framed) mm
Characteristics:

IEC 61646, IEC 61730. CE conformity

TUV and UL certificated. ISO 9001: 2000 and ISO 14001:2001
Available documents:  Datasheet


Valid:  3-4 weeks
Company: QS Solar  is striving to become one of the world leading a-Si thin film
module manufacturers. QS has 5000 employees and 3 subsidiaries in USA, France
and Australia. QS Solar is part of the Qiangsheng (QS) family. The group has 20
years experiences in manufacturing (safety gloves) and international business.
QS facilities are ISO9001:2000 and ISO14001 certified and the company has
obtained IEC61646 and IEC61730 from TUV and is UL listed. QS's goal is to drive
the manufacturing cost down to around USD0.5/Wp by 2011.

I was wondering if anyone here has checked out Sun Nano?
http://sunnanosys.com/residential.aspx
I filled out the bid for grid tied PV system, and they are sounding better than
anyone else. They seem legit, no listing with BBB, but I'm wary. Doug

EUREKA!!!
This is the one

They only use silicon panels
moderate concentration, could make our own using 10W panel.
Anchor on strings an a dam or swimming pool.
Possible to do without tracking if only a moderate concentration is used.
An active or gas tracker would be an easy DIY project.
Lets start building!!

We can send the inventor donations, I'm sure he'll be happy with that!!



Keef





--- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, "silva_halide" <forums@...> wrote:
>
> The New Inventors tonight screened this novel approach to implementing
> CPV
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2616326.htm
> http://www.sunengy.com/
>
> I suspect the design only uses single junction panels rather than the
> hard to get 3J ones from Emcore etc.
>
> regards
> Peter
>

The New Inventors tonight screened this novel approach to implementing
CPV

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2616326.htm
http://www.sunengy.com/

I suspect the design only uses single junction panels rather than the
hard to get 3J ones from Emcore etc.

regards
Peter

It looks very similar to the suncube.  It seems to be on only a single axis tracker.  Does anyone have more info that would explain this?

 

Kevin.

From: SunGrid@yahoogroups .com [mailto:SunGrid@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Brad Ross
Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 11:06
To: SunGrid@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [SunGrid] Emcore Generation III CPV system

Photo of Emcore's new Generation III CPV design. http://twitpic. com/8esom

Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how.

> The recycling part is mentioned on that webpage.
> From reading the information on the First Solar website it seems that the plan is to only sell the panels to authorized suppliers that include recycling as part of the deal.
> That is fine for the grid connect packages that have been offered.
> I think it does mean that we will not be seeing First Solar panels sold cheaply on ebay.
>
> Some good news however.
> If you have a look on ebay there are some good panels coming on the market for under $5 (Aus) per watt.
> Expect to see the price drop even further in the next few weeks as the dozens of companies selling rebated grid connect systems go belly up.
> No need to wait any longer for those cubic devices, cheaper flat panels are here right now.
>
> Woof
> (just for old times sake)
>
> PS If you got rid of the stupid censorship then this forum could return to being the informative and entertaining read that it used to be in the good old days
>

Sorry but the "stupid censorship" simply prevents this forum from being a bitch fest. Most of the information supplied is not censored.......and is usually very informative, but when the useful information ends and mis-information or personal attacks start, the moderators have a duty to themselves and to the remainder of the membership to pull the rubbish up short.

But back on subject, any initiative which assists to drop PV prices seems like a good thing to me. The First Solar panels, despite not really suited to small installations, will certainly have a knock on effect with pricing. One thing that always makes me wonder, is the fact that solar panels here cost so much more than other places. Despite Australia being close to Asia, we still pay considerably more than the US (for example) does. Doesn't make sense to me. Australia appears to be held back by profiteering (by whom, I'm not entirely sure). We have the ideal environmental considerations, we have an educated population, we have a reasonable level of disposable income, we have for some years now had quite reasonable government incentives, yet the price (often up to double what is paid in the US) stymies take-up of a responsible resource. A number of years ago, the main transmission lines feeding the Gold Coast had to be upgraded. The multi-million $ proposal faced extreme opposition from most of the residents. It was suggested to council then, that the money could be spent instead, on a wide scale PV roll-out. The base load would still have been supported, as the claim from the power company back then, was that the Gold Coast would be facing disruptive black outs due to high increase use of air conditioners by an increasing population.......isn't that intermediate and peak load........exactly what PV is most useful for?? Imagine if they had shown some initiative then, and rejected the power line upgrade and instead used the cash to roll out PV. The prices of PV would have dropped considerably, a great start would have been made to a genuine attempt at coal powered offset, and the general population would have affordable power for decades into the future. Of course it is all very simplistic and more accurate figures needed to be done, but I'm afraid the political "easy path" was taken, and the expensive and ugly power lines were installed which cost millions more each year in maintenance.

My simple figures are this. Based on the Qld Govt solar homes incentive, 1000 homes were fitted with a 1kW system......which is suggested that will provide 1/4 of the power requirements of a typical domestic residence here in SEQ. The price to install those systems hovered around the $9k mark. I can't recall the cost of the power line upgrade, but about $500m rings a bell. At the established rate of $9k for 1kW, it would seem that the initial upgrade cost of the powerlines would have paid for over 55k homes to have a 1kW system. At that rate (and given Rovers figures of panels now selling on e-bay for Au$5/W), it's not difficult to imagine panel prices dropping further. (I saw a Lend Lease quote for the First Solar panels and they priced them at Au$3.87/W). To take this further, the power lines need millions each year spent on servicing and maintenance and let's not forget the fact if you need to upgrade the powerlines......chances are you need to be thinking seriously at upgrading those lovely coal fired generators in the not too distant future. The real beauty of the PV is their cost is not in transmission (as they are localised) but in generation of new and relatively clean energy.

Seems to be a proposal that was not taken seriously.....but may just have stacked up superbly. Ah well, let's hope for more lateral thinking in the future!

Ian

PS.....I nearly forgot. The First Solar recycle initiative is not madatory in Australia. I'm not saying that it is not a good thing, but I rang the various Govt departments and established that they had not even heard of it, and suggested the heavy metal component is not something they were concerned about  and rated them similarly to some of the other problems associated with disposal of the likes of fluroescent tubes. Small scale...land fill! Larger scale......worry about it later!

--- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <scantec1@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Those panels will not be made available to the public because they do
> > contain some hazardous materials and must be returned to the
> > manufacturers for recycling at the end of their working life.
> > Even so it is ideal for building large solar farms in which the land
> > cost is only a very small part of the equation.
>
>
> Seems Keef, that some disagree with that statement. Lend Lease are using
> them right now!
>
> http://www.solaroffer.com.au/ <http://www.solaroffer.com.au/>

The recycling part is mentioned on that webpage.
From reading the information on the First Solar website it seems that the plan
is to only sell the panels to authorized suppliers that include recycling as
part of the deal.
That is fine for the grid connect packages that have been offered.
I think it does mean that we will not be seeing First Solar panels sold cheaply
on ebay.

Some good news however.
If you have a look on ebay there are some good panels coming on the market for
under $5 (Aus) per watt.
Expect to see the price drop even further in the next few weeks as the dozens of
companies selling rebated grid connect systems go belly up.
No need to wait any longer for those cubic devices, cheaper flat panels are here
right now.

Woof
(just for old times sake)

PS If you got rid of the stupid censorship then this forum could return to being
the informative and entertaining read that it used to be in the good old days

--- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <scantec1@...> wrote:

> I am curious though.......these panels appear to have many of the same
> attributes as amorphous except cheaper. They seem to handle lower light
> level well but is tempered by the lower effeciencies. 10% appears to be
> just a tad better than amorphous, but does anyone know if the other
> amorphous properties are replicated as well? Like shade tolerance....
> smoke, haze and smog tolerance......angular deviation tolerance.....heat
> tolerance etc?????

> Ian

Hi Ian,

I can't answer all of your questions, but there is a data sheet available here: 
http://www.phoenixsolar.com/RoofMountedSystems/Products/Modules/_content/article\
s/First_Solar_275.html?uri=/RoofMountedSystems/Products/Modules/index.html

Phoenix Solar (my employer) is the Oz distributor for First Solar.  For
performance comparison, see the Desert Knowledge site here:

http://www.dkasolarcentre.com.au/

Cheers,
mikeybouy

I found this comment intresting:

"Mr Garrett said the new rebate was good news because it was available to all
homes and businesses. The old rebate is only available to households earning
less than $100,000."

This implys that the new rebate will be available to everyone, regardless of
income. Looks like a bit of a backflip. :) Shame about this though:

"The value of the new rebate will vary over time and according to where a
residence is located. Based on current prices, homes in most cities would get
$7750 for an average-sized system, whereas homes in less sunny cities like
Melbourne and Hobart would get $6650."

I guess those in less sunny citys are less deserving...Will we get a wind
turbine rebate then??

Chris


--- In SunGrid@yahoogroups.com, "silva_halide" <forums@...> wrote:
>
> Governments ends $8000 solar panel rebate
> <http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25609587-421,00.html>
> So much for the Lend Lease /Diamond Energy offer of free 1.16kW cadmium
> based solar system !!!
>
> Fortunately I got pre-approval about 2 months ago.
>
> regards
> Peter
>

Governments ends $8000 solar panel rebate

> Those panels will not be made available to the public because they do
> contain some hazardous materials and must be returned to the
> manufacturers for recycling at the end of their working life.
> Even so it is ideal for building large solar farms in which the land
> cost is only a very small part of the equation.

Seems Keef, that some disagree with that statement. Lend Lease are using them right now!

http://www.solaroffer.com.au/

I am curious though.......these panels appear to have many of the same attributes as amorphous except cheaper. They seem to handle lower light level well but is tempered by the lower effeciencies. 10% appears to be just a tad better than amorphous, but does anyone know if the other amorphous properties are replicated as well? Like shade tolerance.... smoke, haze and smog tolerance......angular deviation tolerance.....heat tolerance etc?????

If so,  A$300 for a 77W panel sounds like a good price.

Ian

" So, if you have the extra space, that's probably the most cost
effective way"

CPV supporters constantly repeat the claim that it will produce more
power per acre than flat panels.
This claim has not been proven.
Tracking arrays require adequate spacing to prevent shadowing.
First Solar uses very low cost cadmium telluride panels and it is only
about 10% efficient.
Those panels will not be made available to the public because they do
contain some hazardous materials and must be returned to the
manufacturers for recycling at the end of their working life.
Even so it is ideal for building large solar farms in which the land
cost is only a very small part of the equation.

Here is a Silicon flat panel company with a simple non shadowing
tracker (look at page 2)
http://www.sunpowercorp.com/Products-and-Services/~/media/Downloads/for_products\
_services/spwr_t20tracker_en_lt_w_ra.ashx

These products are going into large solar farms right now.

CPV????

http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/first-solar-claims-1-a-watt-industr\
y-milestone/

The solar photovoltaic industry has plenty of supporters, but wider uptake
of the technology has long been hampered by cost.

High costs have not just prevented consumers and companies plastering more
homes and offices with solar cells. They also have bolstered the claim that
large quantities of fossil fuels and nuclear power will be necessary in the
future in part because solar panels do not provide value for money.

On Tuesday, First Solar, a global photovoltaic panel maker based in Tempe,
Ariz., said it had reached an "industry milestone" by reducing its
production costs to less than $1 a watt.

In a statement - seen by Green Inc. on Tuesday - First Solar, which has
produced modules for solar installations in several countries in Europe,
said it had brought costs down to $1 from $3 over the past four years
through economies of scale by increasing its production capacity by 50
times, and by passing on those savings to consumers.


First Solar's chief executive, Mike Ahearn, tipped his hat to countries like
Germany that have offered generous tariffs to producers of solar
electricity.

"Without forward-looking government programs supporting solar electricity,
we would not have been able to invest in the capacity expansion which gives
us the scale to bring costs down," Mr. Ahearn said in the statement.

Much of that investment has come by way of so-called feed-in tariffs, which
allow solar operators, large and small, to earn a higher price for each unit
of energy they produce for a grid than utilities reliant on electricity from
dirtier sources like coal. The higher tariffs help operators cover the
comparatively higher cost of production.

My colleague Kate Galbraith has written about how states and cities in the
United States, including Gainesville, Fla., are exploring the use of such
tariffs.

"The company's long-term financial model suggests manufacturing cost targets
of 65 cents to 70 cents by 2012 and it believes reductions below these
levels are possible over time," Mr. Ahearn said.

The implication of what Mr. Ahearn is saying seems to be this: Continue
government support for the industry now, and solar power will be able to
match peak-hour pricing by from coal and natural gas by 2012 - meaning that
the industry would not need subsidies anymore.

That certainly makes it sound like solar is close to enabling clean,
renewable electricity at competitive prices. What do you think?

I think you will find that even in Spain the sun still rises and sets
on the horizon!
I'm sure that Mr Watson will be along shortly to tell us all about how
wonderful the SunCub is.
(I'd LOVE one of those on my roof!)
Woof

From: Kevin Tory

To: SunGrid@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:08 AM

Subject: RE: [SunGrid] Re: Sunball [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi All,

 

Can anyone make sense of the new photo on the greenandgold website (see attached)?

 

It looks like a wall of suncubes (with flat panels above) except each cube is 2X2 instead of the 3X3 that we have seen so far.  Additionally, it would appear that the wall is fixed, i.e., unable to track the sun.  Obviously it's hard to tell from a single front-on photo.  I can't find any explanation for the picture on the website.

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin.

---

From: SunGrid@yahoogroups.com on behalf of man of mystery
Sent: Sun 28/12/2008 7:10 AM
To: SunGrid@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SunGrid] Re: Sunball

Indian SunCube factory is up and operational.

All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson, CEO
7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365 5844

Hi All

I have been offline for a few months. Just rejoined. What is the
status with the SunCube?

David

Hi Dave,

Emcore makes the best CPV receiver module in the market. They invested
heavily to supply the anticipated world demand and moved first. The
demand is building but probably not as quickly as they believed. Well
before the end of 2009, they will be flat out and expanding production.

As for the SCIG, Indian is on line as is Korea. Spain has built their
first 100 units and Australia is doing likewise.

Like someone once said "Timing is a Bitch".

All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson, CEO
7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365! 5844

Greg,

When will they be available in Oz?

Cheers,
Peter Reed

At 12:51 PM 13/12/2008, you wrote:

> Indian SunCube factory is up and operational.
>
> All the best,
> Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
> Greg Watson, CEO
> 7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
> South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365 5844
> http://www.greenand goldenergy. com.au
>
>

Greg

What is status of retail sales. I have not heard anything from Zolar.

David

Hi David,

I have been told that Square have a Indian backlog they need to get
through. I suspect once that happens exports will start to occur.

All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson, CEO
7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365 5844

You could also have a look at the websites of the fabulous SCIG
(SunCub! e International Group)

The Korean and Spanish operations are particularly impressive!

Indian SunCube factory is up and operational.

All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson, CEO
7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365 5844

Hi All

I have been offline for a few months. Just rejoined. What is the
status with the SunCube?


David

Hi Dave,

Emcore makes the best CPV receiver module in the market. They invested
heavily to supply the anticipated world demand and moved first. The
demand is building but probably not as quickly as they believed. Well
before the end of 2009, they will be flat out and expanding production.

As for the SCIG, Indian is on line as is Korea. Spain has built their
first 100 units and Australia is doing likewise.

Like someone once said "Timing is a Bitch".

All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson, CEO
7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365 5844

Greg,

When will they be available in Oz?

Cheers,
Peter Reed

At 12:51 PM 13/12/2008, you wrote:

> Indian SunCube factory is up and operational.
>
> All the best,
> Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
> Greg Watson, CEO
> 7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
> South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365 5844
> http://www.greenand goldenergy. com.au
>
>

Greg



What is status of retail sales. I have not heard anything from Zolar.



David

Hi David,

I have been told that Square have a Indian backlog they need to get
through. I suspect once that happens exports will start to occur.

All the best,
Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd
Greg Watson, CEO
7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070
South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365 5844



You could also have a look at the websites of the fabulous SCIG
(SunCube International Group)

The Korean and Spanish operations are particularly impressive!