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#4207 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:55 am
Subject: [Fwd: Patch Adams the real guy (video)]
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-------- Original Message --------
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:05:32 -0800

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhmmHio7hLY


#4206 From: dave@...
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: Operation Snowbird Input [1 Attachment]
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As far as the noise and safety concerns around Operation Snowbird go, until we
come up with the courage to replace our perpetual war economy, I think the
constant
reminder of what's being done in our name is good for us. The last thing we
should
be doing is making it easier for people to forget or ignore.


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#4205 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:40 pm
Subject: AlterNet: Our Lives Are Filled With Worthless Crap That's Destroying the Earth: Here's What You Can Do
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If products were more durable, Cooper argues, some jobs lost due to the
decrease in consumption would be offset by the addition of more highly
skilled maintenance and repair jobs. And whereas the lost jobs might be
overseas, the repair jobs would be local. “We need to look at new
business models that move away from manufacturing and selling more and
more products,” he says. Such models might include “products that last
longer but have associated services attached to them, so that the
supplier guarantees to maintain, repair and upgrade the products for a
certain period.”

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/144204

#4204 From: MARY DECAMP <mdecamp@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:32 pm
Subject: Operation Snowbird Input
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November 28, 2009


Dear Mr. Scott Hines,


Thank you for considering input from Tucsonans on the impact of the Air National Guard Operation Snowbird.


I am vehemently opposed to military escalation and heartily endorse drastic de-escalation in Tucson, in Pima County, in Arizona, in the United States, and in US military bases throughout the world on the following grounds:


  1. The moral burden it places on young soldiers as they adopt identities of warriors and killers instead of neighbors and friends. It is psychologically unhealthy to ask our youngsters to bear militarism's emotional costs.


  1. It is too expensive. Our federal economy is crumbling, yet the federal government continues to channel money into destructive goods and services. The money would be better spent by supporting tradespeople and more sustainable endeavors. Blowing up bullets, bombs, land mines, grenades, missiles, etc., just ensures more bullets, bombs, land mines, grenades, missiles, etc. will be needed. Let's use the money to build bicycles, grow food, strengthen community, and support life, please.


  1. Siting military operations in our midst increases the possibility of our community becoming a target for violence by the hundreds of thousands of people whose friends/relatives/neighbors have been killed or maimed or abused by American soldiers. The actions of our troops plant deep resentment in the minds of many who might seek revenge. Increasing a military presence in Tucson only increases the danger level here to our citizens.


  1. Overcrowding an already dry region is a bad idea. The water basin surrounding Tucson is already overtaxed; introducing the additional water demands of Operation Snowbird is stupid and near-sighted.

    So, for moral, financial, safety, and sustainability reasons I oppose the the Air National Guard Operation Snowbird. Thank you for the opportunity to register my opinion. I hope whoever reads this will start to think about how our species could reject the acceptability of violence and devote our individual and collective efforts toward more humane, fiscally responsible, and enjoyable ways of living this life we have been blessed with.


Sincerely,

Mary DeCamp

3501 N Santa Rita Ave

Tucson, AZ 85719


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#4203 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:32 pm
Subject: Rob Hopkins: Transition to a world without oil | Video on TED.com
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#4202 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:28 pm
Subject: AlterNet: 10 Tips for a Sustainable Thanksgiving
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"Preparing a sustainable meal can be a selfish endeavor; I guarantee you
that it will be more fun, tastier and make for a good conversation at
your table. However, it’s also about our global community; you’ll help
to prevent the emission of greenhouse gas emissions, the slaughter of
animals living under inhumane conditions, meet local farmers and help to
foster the establishment of a more equitable food system through your
creation of the biggest American meal of the year."

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/144134

#4201 From: russ3lowes@...
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:30 am
Subject: New post to www.SafeEnergyAnalyst.org
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Hi all,

I occasionally put an article together on nuclear, solar, coal, efficiencies, etc. in our blog www.SafeEnergyAnalyst.org

Here is the latest: http://arizona.typepad.com/safeenergyanalyst/current_affairs/

. . .(which you may have to copy and paste into your browser).

Any feedback is appreciated, and if you want to comment on the article at the bottom of the article, feel free to.

Thanks,
Russell

#4200 From: "Thomas Greco" <thg@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:33 pm
Subject: November newsletter
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Newsletter -- November 23, 2009

 

Whew! The past two months have been a whirlwind—on-tour with appearances, conferences, and interviews, first in Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Texas, then following 10 days rest in Tucson—on to California, Oregon, Washington, BC, and Michigan. Now back in the San Francisco Bay area, I’ve been resting up as I contemplate what might come next.

 

An account of my eastern tour was included in my October message, so I’ll begin with a brief report on The Economics of Peace conference (http://www.economicsofpeace.net/) that was held in Sonoma, California during the fourth week in October. I was one of the featured speakers at that conference, presenting an illustrated talk titled, The Economics of Peace, Justice and Sustainability: Toward a New Convivial World Order.

 

The conference was one of the best I’ve ever attended, with regard to not only the program but the organization and the setting, as well.

 

Praxis Peace Institute Director, Georgia Kelly informs us that videos of The Economics of Peace conference are for now being uploaded to the Vimeo website http://vimeo.com/channels/theeconomicsofpeace. Among those available for immediate viewing are the presentations of Vandana Shiva, A. T. Ariyaratne, and David Korten. Later, the presentations will all be on the Praxis Peace home website http://www.praxispeace.org/.  DVDs and audio CDs will also be available sometime in December.

 

While in the Bay area, I also gave a presentation at San Francisco State University. This was at the invitation of long-time correspondent and friend Kenn Burrows who teaches in the department of Holistic Health Studies.

 

Noticing a two week gap between my California and Michigan commitments, Brian Allen offered to organize a tour of the Northwest. After deliberating about the pros and cons, I agreed to take him up on it. It turned out to be a very interesting and productive tour, with Brian skillfully handling the details every step of the way.

 

In Portland I worked with the Community Exchange Network (CEN/PDX) currency organizing group, putting on a workshop for them on Saturday, then on Monday afternoon we gave a presentation to city officials, among them, the Mayor’s economic development policy advisor. Adding a bit more substance to our presentation was William Underwood, organizer of a successful rebate program called Locals Care that has been operating in northern New Mexico for the past three years (https://www.locals-care.com/lcindex.php). That program has worked out some of the operational details associated with accessing existing payments infrastructure for use of with alternative currency.

The capstone of my Portland visit was a public lecture I gave on Monday night at the Unitarian church, which was well attended and successful in a variety of ways. The Portland people, like those in Asheville, inspired me with their dedication, commitment and intelligence. I’ve agreed to be on their advisory board.

 

In Seattle, I enjoyed the hospitality of the Ramer family, which afforded an opportunity for me to get a deeper understanding and an update on the Interra rebate project which Jon Ramer, with Greg Steltenpohl, helped to organize (http://www.interraproject.org/). That project utilized existing card reader technology and point of sale devices, but at rather high cost. If a greater scale of operation can be reached, the overhead might be bearable.

 

On Wednesday evening (Nov. 4), I gave a lecture on The End of Money and the Future of Civilization at the landmark Elliott Bay Bookstore. That presentation was video-recorded by Todd Boyle who has done a great job of merging the slide graphics with the video to create a movie that has been posted on vimeo. I’ve also added a link to it on my blog http://beyondmoney.net (in the sidebar to the right under My Audio-visual Presentations).

 

Canadian Visit

 

Taking a leisurely drive up the coast on November 5 with Brian and Carolyn, we arrived around dusk at the border crossing into Canada. I remember the days when going into Canada was almost as easy as crossing the street. Now, one needs to show a passport and submit to sometimes intensive interrogation and searches. Still, we managed to reach the dock at Tsawassen just in time to catch the last ferry to Salt Spring Island.

 

Salt Spring Island dollars were launched eight years ago. The nicely-designed notes, which are sold for cash, have had some success in raising funds for local charities but they have not circulated widely on the island. Many tourists acquire the notes and take them home as souvenirs. The Board members are now seeking ways to make their currency more meaningful to island businesses and residents. In my meetings with them, and in my public presentation, I proposed that they change the method of issuance to monetize the local value-added by Island businesses, preferably within a mutual credit clearing association, as I’ve outlined in my recent book. That message seems to have been well received and I’m hopeful that the Salt Spring Island local exchange project may soon evolve into a good model for other communities to follow.

 

While on the Island, I had occasion to meet Paul Grignon, creator of the excellent videos, Money as Debt, (parts I and II). Paul came to my presentation on Salt Spring Island and brought with him a new short video called The Essence of Money, a Medieval Tale. In less than eight minutes, this video explains as well as anything I've seen how simple and effective a community-created currency can be. I highly recommend it. You can view it here: http://www.digitalcoin.info/The_Essence_of_Money.html

 

Back to the USA

 

Upon returning to the U.S., I gave presentations on both Whidbey Island and Vashon Island. Whidbey has recently launched a currency and Vashon people are considering one. In both cases, I stressed the importance of scale and of starting by recruiting “trusted issuers,” i.e., the popular businesses in the community where everyone wants to shop. These are the members that should be first to have the overdraft privilege (lines of credit) that allows them to spend before they earn. Individual members should initially be required to earn before they spend.

 

On Whidbey, I gave a presentation at the Whidbey Institute and had substantive discussions with the founders of the currency project. On Vashon, I was the guest of the Vashon Co-housing community. The talk I gave at the Red Bicycle Café was imbedded in an evening of enlightenment and entertainment that included songs sung and played by a local entertainer, a different kind of format that everyone seemed pleased with.

 

Last Stop

 

The final stop on the tour was Traverse City, Michigan where I was a presenter at the Conference on Michigan's Future Energy, Economy & Environment (Nov. 13-15, 2009, http://futuremichigan.org/). My presentation on the first day of the conference (Friday) was billed as “Why the Economy is Collapsing.” My coverage of that topic was contained in my slide show that I titled, The Economy: How Did we Get Here and Where are we Going?

 

My second presentation (Sunday afternoon) provided a more detailed outline of how to design, manage, and issue complementary credits or currencies. The listed title was "Local currencies and credit currencies,” but I ended up calling it The Exchange Revolution: Taking Cashless trading to a new level. The narrative (MP3) and slide show (pptx) for each of these presentations are currently posted separately at

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b3d291f68f7542fdab1eab3e9fa335ca80431dd425797f76 (files 140 and 141, and 595 and 596, respectively). You can download a free Power Point viewer for pptx files from the Microsoft website.

 

At the end of my stay in Traverse City, I met with the Board of the Bay Bucks local currency project, two members of which are old friends from the Bioregional gatherings of the 1980s. They, too, are looking for ways to make their currency more significant to their local economy. I offered them the same advice I gave to the others—show the most popular businesses in town the advantages of spending their own currency jointly into circulation. With a little seed money, Traverse City could become another good model for community exchange.

 

I could give lots of interesting details on all of these experiences but for the sake of brevity I’ll refrain.

 

Priorities

 

My main priority at this point is to show alternative exchange entrepreneurs in both the grassroots and for-profit realms where the real liberating power lies. It's in reclaiming the credit commons by monetizing the value-added by local industries, farms, and other businesses. What that means is organizing the productive enterprises in a community to pool their credit and to allocate it to one another in proportion to each business’s ability to provide valuable goods and services to their community. This is accomplished by their participation in mutual credit clearing exchanges and/or by jointly issuing a local currency and spending it into circulation. It can also be accomplished by participation in well-managed commercial “barter” exchanges.

 

I'm encouraged to see that this approach is increasingly understood and gaining ever greater traction. Several promising projects are either nearing launch or are shifting over from less empowering designs. There is an urgent need now for (1) grant funding or investment capital to build optimal exchange models that can be quickly scaled-up and replicated, and (2) a “space” for collaboration where developing exchange projects can learn from and assist each other. We don’t have time to reinvent any wheels. Solutions that have already been worked out and tested in one place can be applied or adapted for use elsewhere. There are plenty of good tools available for web-based collaboration and information sharing. It remains only for someone with the requisite knowledge and skills to show how they might be effectively combined and applied.

 

In the coming months, I am also looking forward to shifting my attention back toward more creative work—writing articles and, perhaps, another book, while exploring new realms, physical, cultural, and spiritual.

 

As I’ve said many times of late, I think society is going through a metamorphic change. It is something unprecedented, something that requires us to be responsible, creative and open to possibilities. It means a shift away from economic growth and the consumerist rat-race, toward a sustainable, steady state economy and a dignified life for all. Those who try to cling to the caterpillar economy are bound to be sorely disappointed. With sharing and cooperation we can make the transition to the “butterfly economy” both exciting and rewarding.

 

Happy Holidays,

 

Tom


#4199 From: "Thomas Greco" <thg@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:32 pm
Subject: November newsletter
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Newsletter -- November 23, 2009

 

Whew! The past two months have been a whirlwind—on-tour with appearances, conferences, and interviews, first in Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Texas, then following 10 days rest in Tucson—on to California, Oregon, Washington, BC, and Michigan. Now back in the San Francisco Bay area, I’ve been resting up as I contemplate what might come next.

 

An account of my eastern tour was included in my October message, so I’ll begin with a brief report on The Economics of Peace conference (http://www.economicsofpeace.net/) that was held in Sonoma, California during the fourth week in October. I was one of the featured speakers at that conference, presenting an illustrated talk titled, The Economics of Peace, Justice and Sustainability: Toward a New Convivial World Order.

 

The conference was one of the best I’ve ever attended, with regard to not only the program but the organization and the setting, as well.

 

Praxis Peace Institute Director, Georgia Kelly informs us that videos of The Economics of Peace conference are for now being uploaded to the Vimeo website http://vimeo.com/channels/theeconomicsofpeace. Among those available for immediate viewing are the presentations of Vandana Shiva, A. T. Ariyaratne, and David Korten. Later, the presentations will all be on the Praxis Peace home website http://www.praxispeace.org/.  DVDs and audio CDs will also be available sometime in December.

 

While in the Bay area, I also gave a presentation at San Francisco State University. This was at the invitation of long-time correspondent and friend Kenn Burrows who teaches in the department of Holistic Health Studies.

 

Noticing a two week gap between my California and Michigan commitments, Brian Allen offered to organize a tour of the Northwest. After deliberating about the pros and cons, I agreed to take him up on it. It turned out to be a very interesting and productive tour, with Brian skillfully handling the details every step of the way.

 

In Portland I worked with the Community Exchange Network (CEN/PDX) currency organizing group, putting on a workshop for them on Saturday, then on Monday afternoon we gave a presentation to city officials, among them, the Mayor’s economic development policy advisor. Adding a bit more substance to our presentation was William Underwood, organizer of a successful rebate program called Locals Care that has been operating in northern New Mexico for the past three years (https://www.locals-care.com/lcindex.php). That program has worked out some of the operational details associated with accessing existing payments infrastructure for use of with alternative currency.

The capstone of my Portland visit was a public lecture I gave on Monday night at the Unitarian church, which was well attended and successful in a variety of ways. The Portland people, like those in Asheville, inspired me with their dedication, commitment and intelligence. I’ve agreed to be on their advisory board.

 

In Seattle, I enjoyed the hospitality of the Ramer family, which afforded an opportunity for me to get a deeper understanding and an update on the Interra rebate project which Jon Ramer, with Greg Steltenpohl, helped to organize (http://www.interraproject.org/). That project utilized existing card reader technology and point of sale devices, but at rather high cost. If a greater scale of operation can be reached, the overhead might be bearable.

 

On Wednesday evening (Nov. 4), I gave a lecture on The End of Money and the Future of Civilization at the landmark Elliott Bay Bookstore. That presentation was video-recorded by Todd Boyle who has done a great job of merging the slide graphics with the video to create a movie that has been posted on vimeo. I’ve also added a link to it on my blog http://beyondmoney.net (in the sidebar to the right under My Audio-visual Presentations).

 

Canadian Visit

 

Taking a leisurely drive up the coast on November 5 with Brian and Carolyn, we arrived around dusk at the border crossing into Canada. I remember the days when going into Canada was almost as easy as crossing the street. Now, one needs to show a passport and submit to sometimes intensive interrogation and searches. Still, we managed to reach the dock at Tsawassen just in time to catch the last ferry to Salt Spring Island.

 

Salt Spring Island dollars were launched eight years ago. The nicely-designed notes, which are sold for cash, have had some success in raising funds for local charities but they have not circulated widely on the island. Many tourists acquire the notes and take them home as souvenirs. The Board members are now seeking ways to make their currency more meaningful to island businesses and residents. In my meetings with them, and in my public presentation, I proposed that they change the method of issuance to monetize the local value-added by Island businesses, preferably within a mutual credit clearing association, as I’ve outlined in my recent book. That message seems to have been well received and I’m hopeful that the Salt Spring Island local exchange project may soon evolve into a good model for other communities to follow.

 

While on the Island, I had occasion to meet Paul Grignon, creator of the excellent videos, Money as Debt, (parts I and II). Paul came to my presentation on Salt Spring Island and brought with him a new short video called The Essence of Money, a Medieval Tale. In less than eight minutes, this video explains as well as anything I've seen how simple and effective a community-created currency can be. I highly recommend it. You can view it here: http://www.digitalcoin.info/The_Essence_of_Money.html

 

Back to the USA

 

Upon returning to the U.S., I gave presentations on both Whidbey Island and Vashon Island. Whidbey has recently launched a currency and Vashon people are considering one. In both cases, I stressed the importance of scale and of starting by recruiting “trusted issuers,” i.e., the popular businesses in the community where everyone wants to shop. These are the members that should be first to have the overdraft privilege (lines of credit) that allows them to spend before they earn. Individual members should initially be required to earn before they spend.

 

On Whidbey, I gave a presentation at the Whidbey Institute and had substantive discussions with the founders of the currency project. On Vashon, I was the guest of the Vashon Co-housing community. The talk I gave at the Red Bicycle Café was imbedded in an evening of enlightenment and entertainment that included songs sung and played by a local entertainer, a different kind of format that everyone seemed pleased with.

 

Last Stop

 

The final stop on the tour was Traverse City, Michigan where I was a presenter at the Conference on Michigan's Future Energy, Economy & Environment (Nov. 13-15, 2009, http://futuremichigan.org/). My presentation on the first day of the conference (Friday) was billed as “Why the Economy is Collapsing.” My coverage of that topic was contained in my slide show that I titled, The Economy: How Did we Get Here and Where are we Going?

 

My second presentation (Sunday afternoon) provided a more detailed outline of how to design, manage, and issue complementary credits or currencies. The listed title was "Local currencies and credit currencies,” but I ended up calling it The Exchange Revolution: Taking Cashless trading to a new level. The narrative (MP3) and slide show (pptx) for each of these presentations are currently posted separately at

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b3d291f68f7542fdab1eab3e9fa335ca80431dd425797f76 (files 140 and 141, and 595 and 596, respectively). You can download a free Power Point viewer for pptx files from the Microsoft website.

 

At the end of my stay in Traverse City, I met with the Board of the Bay Bucks local currency project, two members of which are old friends from the Bioregional gatherings of the 1980s. They, too, are looking for ways to make their currency more significant to their local economy. I offered them the same advice I gave to the others—show the most popular businesses in town the advantages of spending their own currency jointly into circulation. With a little seed money, Traverse City could become another good model for community exchange.

 

I could give lots of interesting details on all of these experiences but for the sake of brevity I’ll refrain.

 

Priorities

 

My main priority at this point is to show alternative exchange entrepreneurs in both the grassroots and for-profit realms where the real liberating power lies. It's in reclaiming the credit commons by monetizing the value-added by local industries, farms, and other businesses. What that means is organizing the productive enterprises in a community to pool their credit and to allocate it to one another in proportion to each business’s ability to provide valuable goods and services to their community. This is accomplished by their participation in mutual credit clearing exchanges and/or by jointly issuing a local currency and spending it into circulation. It can also be accomplished by participation in well-managed commercial “barter” exchanges.

 

I'm encouraged to see that this approach is increasingly understood and gaining ever greater traction. Several promising projects are either nearing launch or are shifting over from less empowering designs. There is an urgent need now for (1) grant funding or investment capital to build optimal exchange models that can be quickly scaled-up and replicated, and (2) a “space” for collaboration where developing exchange projects can learn from and assist each other. We don’t have time to reinvent any wheels. Solutions that have already been worked out and tested in one place can be applied or adapted for use elsewhere. There are plenty of good tools available for web-based collaboration and information sharing. It remains only for someone with the requisite knowledge and skills to show how they might be effectively combined and applied.

 

In the coming months, I am also looking forward to shifting my attention back toward more creative work—writing articles and, perhaps, another book, while exploring new realms, physical, cultural, and spiritual.

 

As I’ve said many times of late, I think society is going through a metamorphic change. It is something unprecedented, something that requires us to be responsible, creative and open to possibilities. It means a shift away from economic growth and the consumerist rat-race, toward a sustainable, steady state economy and a dignified life for all. Those who try to cling to the caterpillar economy are bound to be sorely disappointed. With sharing and cooperation we can make the transition to the “butterfly economy” both exciting and rewarding.

 

Happy Holidays,

 

Tom


#4198 From: Josh L <joshl1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:07 am
Subject: (fwd) (fwd) New Rates Approved by ACC for AAWC's Tubac Water District
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In case this information might be of use in assessing Tucson-area
water issues.  The author sent out to quite a few people and seemed to
extend his research to well beyond Santa Cruz County.


>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:29:05 +0000, "Marshall@..."
><mmagruder@...> wrote:
>
>Friends
>
>Late yesterday, in a 4-1 vote, the Corporation Commission approved the
>following new rates for the 532 customers of Arizona-American Water
>Company's Tubac Water District, one of the six water districts and one
>wastewater district in one of the largest water rate cases ever before
>the Commission.
>
>Here is a summary of the facts for the Tubac water district:
>
>  Total Annual Revenue before approval   = $648,354
>  Approved Increase in Annual Revenue    = $221,454
>  Percent increase in Annual Revenue     =  51.87%
>This is to provide the company income to meet its expenses as it
>always has lost money here.
>
>Average monthly residential customer water usage = 11,757 gallons in
>Tubac
>
>Other water districts consumptions were lower between 6,704 and 9,705;
>however, Paradise Valley was much higher at 20,493 gallons per month
>(the highest in Arizona).
>
>For the average usage residential customer at 11,757 gallons per
>month, we see
>
>  Current average usage residential customer bill    = $50.04 (old
>bill)
>  Approved average usage residential customer bill   = $58.89 (new
>bill)
>  Increase approved for average residential customer =  $8.85
>     Company requested increase in monthly bills     = $32.43
>  Approved percent change in average customer bill   = 17.08%
>
>The Tubac Water District remains with the highest monthly bill of
>these six districts.
>
>For comparison, below are the new average residential bills and
>percent change for all the water districts:
>
> District           New Avg Bill      Percent Change
>  Agua Fria           $30.42           + 25.93%
>  Havasu              $50.09           + 36.90%
>  Mohave              $18.01           +  3.34%
>  Paradise Valley     $54.98           + 11.76% (three attorneys
>intervened)
>  Sun City West       $32.42           + 66.11% (this group is really
>upset)
>  Tubac               $58.59           + 17.08%
>
>For Tubac Residential customers, the monthly service charge will
>increase from $15.00 to $24.70.
>
>The rates for consumption (per 1,000 gallons) will now be in four
>tiers or steps, with higher rates for greater amounts consumed as
>follows:
>
>First 3,000 gallons      $1.90 per 1,000 gallons (it was $1.89 for 1st
>4,000 gallons)
>3,001 to 10,000 gallons  $3.00 per 1,000 gallons
>10,001 to 20,000 gallons $4.00 per 1,000 gallons
>Over 20,000 gallons      $6.00 per 1,000 gallons (this should
>encourage conservation)
>
>Thank the ACC Staff for proposing these rates.
>
>Also, the Commission has ordered its Staff to file a "CONSOLIDATED"
>rate schedule by 31 December and the Company will also as the above
>variance in rates is mostly a hold-over from legacy water companies
>acquired by AAWC. This should, based on prior looks at consolidation,
>reduce our average residential customer's rate to a bit around $44.00
>per month, for a rate decrease of about $14.00 per month.
>
>As is obvious, when one customer has a reduction, another will have an
>increase, so public workshops and meetings were ordered to inform the
>public about the impacts of consolidation. The company's own witness,
>in another case in New Jersey, presented testimony, that the kind of
>rate structure that now exists in multiple districts is UNFAIR and
>DISCRIMINATORY.
>
>The Chairman of the Commission expressed her extreme disappointment
>that rates were not consolidated in this case and she expects to see
>that occur very soon! She noted several times that my comments
>throughout this case were to only one who consistently pushed hard for
>consolidation. She expressed her disappointment that the ACC Staff,
>RUCO, and the company were unable to make this happen yesterday, even
>though she requested this over a year ago.
>
>Consolidation is in the interest not only for Tubac but for the other
>100,000 plus water customers in AAWC to consolidate rates so please
>follow this issue closely, attend the forthcoming forums as notices
>will be provided to all customers in advance, to keep all of us
>informed.
>
>In the meantime, the Arsenic Recovery Plant is nearing completion. I
>thanked the Madame Chairman for her active participation with WIFA to
>greatly reduce the capital costs for this $2.3M addition. An Arsenic
>Recovery Cost Mechanism (ARCM) process for this plant was approved
>yesterday but the future ARCM impact on ratepayers won't be known for
>several months but is expected to be considerably less than prior
>estimates. Good topic to discuss at the forums too as under
>consolidation all customers should fund, not those in this very small
>district, as that is why large companies can spread out costs to
>reduce major cost changes in smaller companies when expensive changes
>occur.
>
>There also will be a new rate category for lower income customers with
>a proposed tariff due by 1 January to the Commission for review. My
>approach recommended even lower rates for the lowest usage consumers,
>which are usually these lower income and those on fixed incomes, but
>the Chairman disagreed as she expressed concerns about large families.
>The company is trying such a program in Sun City and anticipated 1,000
>to apply but only 200 have applied to date. My concerns are the
>administrative costs and the onerous requirement to "apply" for many
>having financial difficulties. It was disagreeable to me to not agree
>with the Chairman but she understood my viewpoint.
>
>Yesterday was a very good day for Tubac, even though we still have the
>highest rates; however, it could have been MUCH worse!!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Marshall

#4197 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:53 pm
Subject: AlterNet: 20 Weird, Crazy Ideas for Helping the Earth
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20 Weird, Crazy Ideas for Helping the Earth



http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/144060

From the techno-fantasist wing...

#4196 From: dave@...
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:09 pm
Subject: Event reminder - Sat. Nov. 21 8:30am - 1 pm, Building Relationships: New Communication Tools to Transform Your Group, Organizat
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Building Relationships:
New Communication Tools to Transform Your Group, Organization, and Community

Learn about powerful new processes for:

* Non-hierarchical organization
* Effective coalitions
* Inclusive communications
* Group decision making
* Productive meetings

Effective communication -- the key to success. In stressful, swiftly changing
times, it
is more challenging and vital than ever.

Become familiar with a dozen powerful, non-hierarchical techniques that
facilitate
communication, organization and decisions -- from the grassroots to the
enterprise --
and when each is most effective.

Becoming practiced in forms of communication that are inclusive and non-
hierarchical, and thus draw out the best in each individual, is difficult at
best within a
culture that values the opposite. The goal of communication and relationship
building
should be power with, not power over. Then everyone benefits. In an
interconnected
world, it's the only way each has any possibility of actually reaching their
full potential.
This will necessarily be part of the foundation of any sustainable future.

This half-day workshop provides:

* An overview of a dozen of the most powerful new non-hierarchical organization,
communication, planning, and decision making tools that have emerged over the
last
few decades,

* Instruction on how and when you can most effectively employ these processes to
serve the evolving purposes of your organization, plus

* Experiential activities. Come prepared to be outside for about an hour.

Facilitated by Allison and Dave Ewoldt of Natural Systems Solutions

There is a suggested registration fee of $25--$45

For more information and to register, please see
www.attractionretreat.org/Education/Communications.html
or contact Allison -- e-mail: allisonewoldt@... phone: 520-887-2502


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#4195 From: joycetsmith1@...
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:48 pm
Subject: SAT 11/21 DR MILTON SCHWEBEL: Hundred Year IQ War AT WILPF GATHERING
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Dr.Schwebel will speak 2 pm Saturday, November 21 at the Friends Meeting House, 931 N. 5th Ave.  at the meeting of the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom.

Dr. Milton Schwebel, Retired Psychology Professor and Education Dean, Rutgers University, will speak on "The Hundred Year IQ War: Using Tests to Justify Injustice."  Milton used and taught courses on psychological tests for many years and wrote and lectured on the subject extensively.

He is a long time WILPF member and peace activist.  He has received many
professional awards and is the author of many books.  He will elaborate on how IQtests have been used for years to maintain privilege.The meeting is free. The public is invited.  For further information, call 791-9535.

#4194 From: joycetsmith1@...
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:44 pm
Subject: FW: How pumpkin pies are made
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hi~~~ 
                            pic12993.jpg
 
                                                    "Thanksgiving is,
 
             Have a peaceful & good  Thanxxgiving            
        (PS: no law says we have to kill birds to feel gratwful )          
 
shalom salaam paz~~~
 joyce

#4193 From: joycetsmith1@...
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:10 pm
Subject: RE: The Yes Men Fix the World
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corporatism is not sustainable 
                        for children and other living things
 
hi chet & all~~~

agreed.. though capitalism: a love story  is also a multiple MUST SEE!!!
 
while the glorious yes prankstermen are incredible per se, and
thought-provoking, it's about abolishing corporate personhood for starters
locally, and following up with overthrowing corporatist government local
to national to global, restoring FDR-era advances (or we don't deserve
them), and going beyond.

thank you
~~~
joyce

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#4192 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:31 pm
Subject: Yes Men | Babelgum
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The Yes Men
Never-before-seen stunts and videos of all the latest Yes Men missions.

http://www.babelgum.com/yesmen

#4191 From: Dick Kaiser <dikyzr@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:23 pm
Subject: WHISTLEBLOWER: OFFICIAL ESTIMATES OF OIL UPPED TO PLEASE AMERICANS
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Guardian, UK - The world is much closer to running out of oil than official estimates admit, according to a whistleblower at the International Energy Agency who claims it has been deliberately underplaying a looming shortage for fear of triggering panic buying.

The senior official claims the US has played an influential role in encouraging the watchdog to underplay the rate of decline from existing oil fields while overplaying the chances of finding new reserves.

The allegations raise serious questions about the accuracy of the organization's latest World Energy Outlook on oil demand and supply to be published tomorrow . . .

In particular they question the prediction in the last World Economic Outlook, believed to be repeated again this year, that oil production can be raised from its current level of 83m barrels a day to 105m barrels. External critics have frequently argued that this cannot be substantiated by firm evidence and say the world has already passed its peak in oil production.

Now the "peak oil" theory is gaining support at the heart of the global energy establishment. "The IEA in 2005 was predicting oil supplies could rise as high as 120m barrels a day by 2030 although it was forced to reduce this gradually to 116m and then 105m last year," said the IEA source, who was unwilling to be identified for fear of reprisals inside the industry. "The 120m figure always was nonsense but even today's number is much higher than can be justified and the IEA knows this.

"Many inside the organization believe that maintaining oil supplies at even 90m to 95m barrels a day would be impossible but there are fears that panic could spread on the financial markets if the figures were brought down further. And the Americans fear the end of oil supremacy because it would threaten their power over access to oil resources," he added.

A second senior IEA source, who has now left but was also unwilling to give his name, said a key rule at the organization was that it was "imperative not to anger the Americans" but the fact was that there was not as much oil in the world as had been admitted. "We have [already] entered the 'peak oil' zone. I think that the situation is really bad," he added.




$327,607,108 equals total amount members of Congress have received from the health industry over the past 20 years. Biggest recipient (6% of total) is Barack Obama.  And Congress has a great health plan that it could provide to all citizens, if they wanted to.  We call it a democracy, but that doesn't make it so...
 


#4190 From: MARY DECAMP <mdecamp@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:59 pm
Subject: RE: YouTube - More Than Money - What Is "The Good Life" Parable
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Thanks, Chet!
 
I posted it on my class website.  It's a good message to share, and only 3 minutes long.
 
Best wishes-
Mary
 

To:
From: chet_misc@...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:46:15 -0700
Subject: [SustainableTucson] YouTube - More Than Money - What Is "The Good Life" Parable

 
More Than Money - What Is "The Good Life"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7JlI959slY&feature=related


#4189 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:32 am
Subject: New video posted for Weekly Intercept
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I just published a video about the Coronado Hotel, where the DDC, in
violation of their contract with the city, kicked out the elderly low
income residence and put up the property for sale. This is good for
people to check out and hopefully feel motivated to go to the Mayor and
Council meeting 5:30 PM on Tuesday, November 24th.

If you could send this out to your list, that would be  much appreciated.

http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/

Best Regards,

J.T.

#4188 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:46 am
Subject: YouTube - More Than Money - What Is "The Good Life" Parable
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#4187 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:28 pm
Subject: The Yes Men Fix the World
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This is a MUST SEE!

If you go to NO OTHER MOVIE all year, you MUST see this one...

And then, think about how easy it is to do...

Chet

http://www.loftcinema.com/node/1261

MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST
SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!
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SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!
MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST SEE!!!  MUST
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MUST SEE!!!

#4186 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:21 pm
Subject: 'Angry Mermaid' joins fight against climate change - Climate Change, Environment - The Independent
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A new environmental award will be launched tomorrow with some of the biggest corporations and lobbying outfits in the world in contention for the top prize. But the winner will have nothing to celebrate.

The inaugural Angry Mermaid award, inspired by Denmark's famous Little Mermaid statue, will go to the organisation "doing the most to sabotage effective action on climate change" in the run-up to climate change talks in Copenhagen next month.

Contenders include the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity for promoting "clean coal" and funding a letter-writing campaign in an attempt to weaken the US climate bill; the American petroleum industry for spending millions lobbying against climate legislation; and the European chemical lobby for attempting to undermine EU attempts to cut carbon emissions. The International Air Transport Association (Iata) is cited for promoting weak voluntary efforts to cut emissions, while the International Emissions Trading Association (Ieta) is listed because it promotes emissions trading and carbon offsetting as the solution to climate change. The biotech giant Monsanto is included for presenting GM crops as another climate-change solution, while the South African company Sasol is shortlisted due to its lobbying for carbon capture and storage to compensate for the conversion of coal into petrol. Shell is also in the running over its promotion of carbon capture while investing in environmentally destructive oil extraction from the Canadian tar sands.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/angry-mermaid-joins-fight-against-climate-change-1820960.html

#4185 From: "Madeline Kiser" <mkiser@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:24 pm
Subject: FW: REMINDER: Water Festival Community Brainstorm Gathering 11/19
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Hello, All -
 
As you may know the organizer of this event, Jodi Netzer, has generated a lot of interest in creating a Water Festival among community members as well as water experts.
 
Tomorrow's brainstorming should be lively, and a chance for those of us who are passionate about bringing new people into water debates to share ideas and collaborate.

Take care - Madeline


From: jodi netzer / The Conscious Collective [mailto:info@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:49 AM
To: The Conscious Collective
Subject: REMINDER: Water Festival Community Brainstorm Gathering 11/19

Greetings,

This is a reminder message that you, your friends, and colleagues are invited to attend the Community Brainstorm Gathering for The Water Project, a participatory festival, March 26-28, 2010, that celebrates, educates, and facilitates creative problem-solving for our most precious and endangered resource – water.  This event includes a performance, art happenings, information tables, and an interactive panel discussion.  Planned to be a yearly event, this upcoming festival initiates Tucson’s World Water Week, a series of events to coincide with the international observance of World Water Day, an initiative that grew out of the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED).

The project is developed through cross-sector collaborations with artists, cultural workers, educators, scientists, engineers, architects, climatologists, water harvesters, city planners, investors, politicians, and other community members interested in addressing water issues from various angles.  Through brainstorming sessions and hands-on project development, the festival intends to build a model for collaborative problem-solving and creative expression.

At the Community Brainstorm Gathering you will have the opportunity to:

•  Learn more about the festival
•  Collaboratively map ideas about water issues
•  Sign up for preferred levels of participation in various aspects of the festival and/or performance

If you are not able to attend the gathering but are still interested in participating, please contact me by replying to this email with the info mentioned for the RSVP.

WATER FESTIVAL COMMUNITY BRAINSTORM GATHERING
Thursday, November 19th, 6:30-8:30pm (doors open 6pm)
Armory Park Center
220 S. 5th Avenue
(On 5th Avenue, South of 12th Street)

RSVP with your email, phone number, and few words about your interests/talents/jobs.  Light snacks will be available.  If you find out your schedule the day of the gathering, there is no need to RSVP.

For more information, go to http://www.TheConsciousCollective.org

Let's dream of ideas together and make them a reality.

See you soon,

jodi netzer

PS- Please forward this email to friends and colleagues.


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#4184 From: joycetsmith1@...
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:35 pm
Subject: FWD: [SP-NOW] SINGLE-PAYER IN THE POLLS
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quality universal health care is sustainable 
                        for children and other living things 
 
it's still up to us to let ''our'' electeds know ~ and to be in the streets! on a liberal talk radio show last week,
i heard one congressmember comment that he saw a lot of ''tea-baggers'' out there, and hasn't seen a lot of the smarter people (i'm paraphrasing here).
 
thank you~~~
joyce

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begin forward:
 
Here are some poll results worth looking at and forwarding to everyone you know. People need to know that they are not alone..... that despite the best efforts & the megabucks of the private for-profit health insurance companies, the majority of Americans actually still want a Medicare For All Single Payer System run by the Gov't.  

Results of 4 polls done this year by Kaiser, Time Magazine, Grove Insight Opinion, & NY Times/CBS News,  all show a clear majority (ranging from 49% to 59%) favor a Universal Medicare-Like Single Payer System paid for by taxes & government-run,  over our current private system.

View the poll results at:     http://news.yahoo.com/    

In one recent poll (results published June 20 2009) done by the New York Times/CBS News , results showed that most Americans would be willing to pay higher taxes so everyone could have health insurance  and they said the government could do a better job of holding down health-care costs than the private sector. 

 

.








#4183 From: Chet Gardiner <chet_misc@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:50 pm
Subject: AlterNet: America Is One Big Clunker and No Amount of Cash Will Buy Us a New One
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In The Long Emergency (2005, Atlantic Monthly Press), I said that we ought to expect the federal government to become increasingly impotent and ineffectual -- that this would be a hallmark of the times. In fact, I said that any enterprise organized at the colossal scale would function poorly in years ahead, whether it was a government, a state university, a national chain retail company, or a giant midwestern farm. It is characteristic of the compressive contraction our society faces that giant hypercomplex systems will wobble and fail. We should expect this.

It's tragic that the avatar of hopefulness himself, Barack Obama, stepped into his role at exactly the moment when this set of conditions was getting traction. It is sure to get worse, and there are going to be a lot of disappointed people out there who will be suffering terrible losses and real pain in daily life. Societies don't do well when the public falls into the broad despair that is the opposite of hope. That's when the long knives and the tribal animosities come out and things get smashed.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/143969

#4182 From: allison@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:54 pm
Subject: The Next Best West
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Our dear friend Mick Dodge, the guy with the white
beard in this youtube video, has been asked to do the
narration for the film based on this concept that is
going to be produced.

I especially love this quote from the clip:
"They say you can't stop progress, but we can change
what progress means."

Enjoy!
Allison


www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WnJPJCP87Y






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#4181 From: russ3lowes@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Fwd: Send a coat hanger.
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Hi all,
It is an untenable and unsustainable position to be for illegalization of abortion, or in this case to be for the mandated deletion of funding by Congress of private coverage by insurance companies. This health insurance bill will cause more back alley abortions. Those over 50 might remember reading of (or perhaps experiencing directly) the horrors of botched illegal abortions of the '60s and before. And Credo asks if these dems have forgotten that part of our history. . .
--Russell


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 10:56 am
Subject: Send a coat hanger.


CREDO Action | more than a network. a movement.


20 pro-choice Dems voted for the Stupak amendment.
Send a coat hanger.
We're furious.
In a backroom deal brokered to get the votes necessary to pass the House health care bill, one amendment was allowed an up-or-down vote on the floor. That amendment, the Stupak amendment — which passed on a vote of 240 to 194 — is the most serious assault on abortion rights in a generation.
What's more, according to FiveThirtyEight.com, 20 of the 64 Democrats who joined Republicans to pass the measure are nominally pro-choice.
Why did pro-choice Democrats vote to approve the Stupak amendment? We're telling these 20 Democrats — all men — to reconsider their vote and urge Congressional leadership to do everything they can to ensure the health care bill that comes out of committee does not take us back to an era of coat hangers and back alley abortions.
If the Stupak amendment is allowed to stand, it would ban private insurers who participate in the insurance exchange created by the health care bill from covering abortion as a part of women's reproductive health care. Tens of millions of women would be affected.
These 20 formerly pro-choice Democrats need to hear that it is NOT ok to throw women under the bus when it comes to passing health care.
Back in 1992, Working Assets helped its members send coat hangers to Congress. Now, 17 years later, it's time to do it again.
Please sign the petition, send a coat hanger, and tell your friends about CREDO's SendACoatHanger.com campaign.
Sincerely,
Laura Scher, CEO of CREDO Mobile
Michael Kieschnick, President of CREDO Mobile
Becky Bond, Political Director of CREDO Action


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#4180 From: joycetsmith1@...
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:46 pm
Subject: I am incensed
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misogyny is not sustainable 
                        for children and other living things
.
thank you, deborah
~~~
joyce

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#4179 From: Gmail <desertrain.dt@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:54 pm
Subject: I am incensed
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...by

where an irresponsible woman just got knocked up.  

Speaking of divisive!  OMFG!!!!!

I have nothing to say which can be said in that forum, so I will allow the rest of you to imagine what I say when I am really, really pissed off.

Deborah 


#4178 From: dave@...
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: Sustainability - Halliburton
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On 13 Nov 2009 at 10:35, Chet Gardiner wrote:

> Soon we may have to find a new term...
>
> http://www.halliburton.com/AboutUs/default.aspx?navid=981&pageid=2279

I think this merely points out the need to accurately define what we mean by
sustainability. Halliburton's usage (not to single them out, this is the status
quo in
Korporate Amerika) points out that this is what we get--it is the expected
logical
outcome--of not wanting to stand up for what we mean and what it entails because
we're afraid that we might offend someone. As if an individual's tender
sensibilities
(or more accurately--as this is the codephrase defenders of the status quo fall
back
on as a last resort--corporate profitability and industrial growth) are more
important
than life on the only planet we're likely to ever have.

For those of you who would like our elected officials, starting here in Tucson
and
Pima County, to adopt an ecologically sound and legally defensible definition of
sustainability to act as both a basis for policy decisions and as a yardstick to
measure progress toward the goal of a sustainable future, please get in touch.

Transition Pima is gathering signatures on what we're calling the Green TEA
Party's
Reality Resolution to have the M&C and BoS adopt said definition. I'll post the
full
resolution, which contains the definition (which most of you have seen before as
I've
been using it for over five years), in a separate e-mail.


For the Earth...
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