The recent flurry of emails indicate a latent interest in this community.

 

As Kent indicates, we have a more efficient place to conduct such a discussion, than through mass emails: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SystemsThinkers/. I’m going to send this also as a message to the yahoo group.

 

To post, simply send a message to SystemsThinkers@yahoogroups.com. To join, go to the home page at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SystemsThinkers and sign up.

 

PS: A wiki is a great idea; I am developing one, by the way, on Election Protection for Sourcewatch (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Portal:Election_Protection_Wiki).

 

Maybe after November, we could begin to think about a Systems Wiki.

 

 

From: Myers, Kent C. [mailto:KENT.C.MYERS@saic.com]
Sent: 26 September, 2008 5:25 PM
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Subject: proposed use for your book

 

Rafael,

 

Thanks for your book notification. I’ll read it, but let me propose something more.  Let’s all use it!

 

Attached is an idea for a conference.  The S3 network has been quiet for a very long time, but it may actually have a unique capability that the world now needs.  I’d like to engage that network one last time, before we are all retired or drowned.    

 

We have all been reading about the big problems.  I believe there is one issue where some design work is needed and where we might have some impact.  I won’t try to formulate the problem here (that’s part of the conference) but it all has to do with growth.  Only growth will save us, yet growth will surely kill us.  What would a sustainable world look like, and would anybody want it?  I think there is terrific insight on this issue in Herman Daly, For the Common Good, but he doesn’t draw out the scenario.  So that would be a task.  I approached a local group concerned with this, and suggested that systems thinkers might want to work on it and produce something intellectually respectable.  He was very interested to proceed.  Is anybody else?

 

Kent Myers

 

(I am happy to receive individual emails, but we have a more efficient place to conduct such a discussion, which is here:    

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SystemsThinkers/.  Perhaps we should put the document in a wiki.  Whatever Steve Freeman tells us to do for discussion, I would like to do that.)   

 

 

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From: Rafael Ramirez [mailto:Rafael.Ramirez@sbs.ox.ac.uk]
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